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| Father Anthony Falsarella |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 9:49 am |
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I think I speak for many in this forum, that the ongoing personal war
between Mr Cobb and Mr Green reflects a situation that is anything but
Orthodox in spirit. Many are seeking news and articles of the Orthodox world
that may educate or spiritually nuture the reader.
Instead we are constantly especially in the past few days have seen hatred,
jealousy, personal agendas, and overall a general lack of emotional and
spiritual maturity. For any newcomer or someone seeking information of the
church, they find this war of personal hatred that is contrary to the
teachings of the church and the Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
I feel that if either or both parties can't be civil, and try to reflect the
values and teachings of the Holy Orthodox Church, they should cease posting
and move on to the Church of Satan forum because that's the values they
reflect.
In other words, grow up and stop being an embarrassment to everyone and the
Church.
Fr. A+ |
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| AGGreen |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:46 am |
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"Father Anthony Falsarella" <fatheranthony@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:J3JQd.22947$ya6.19571@trndny01...
Quote: I think I speak for many in this forum, that the ongoing personal war
between Mr Cobb and Mr Green reflects a situation that is anything but
Orthodox in spirit. Many are seeking news and articles of the Orthodox
world
that may educate or spiritually nuture the reader.
***Exactly correct. And that's why i called a Truce, which is not being
honored by the 'other" party.
Quote:
Instead we are constantly especially in the past few days have seen
hatred,
jealousy, personal agendas, and overall a general lack of emotional and
spiritual maturity. For any newcomer or someone seeking information of the
church, they find this war of personal hatred that is contrary to the
teachings of the church and the Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus
Christ.
I feel that if either or both parties can't be civil, and try to reflect
the
values and teachings of the Holy Orthodox Church, they should cease
posting
and move on to the Church of Satan forum because that's the values they
reflect.
In other words, grow up and stop being an embarrassment to everyone and
the
Church.
Fr. A+
***I'll take your admonishment. The challenge is, will the other party? |
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| Alexander Arnakis |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:27 pm |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:49:13 GMT, "Father Anthony Falsarella"
<fatheranthony@verizon.net> wrote:
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I feel that if either or both parties can't be civil, and try to reflect the
values and teachings of the Holy Orthodox Church, they should cease posting
and move on to the Church of Satan forum because that's the values they
reflect.
Even Satan would be embarrassed by their antics. The hallmark of the
Father of Lies is his sophistication. These two would be disowned by
the Devil because of their idiocy. |
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| Guest |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:36 pm |
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I have little doubt both mean well.
But they do get carried away.
To be fair, Nik started.
I used to be on the same side as Nik against the "schizmos".
The thing is I have real-life experience with hecklers at demonstrations.
When I tried to out-heckle them, I looked like I was the nut.
I LEARNED TO TARGET MY MESSAGE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING!
Unfortunately, telemarketers, massmailers and spammers don't get this.
Keep hoping SOMEDAY they will, and the euronazis won't end up surrendering
up our freedom of speech just to silence a few nuisances.
My first online debate was 1982 on Columbia's BBoard..
I had gotten the computer director all riled up
and VP for student affairs told him to lighten up
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Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
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| Guest |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:39 pm |
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Back in the early 90s Cobb used to sign all his messages "Maranatha!"
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Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
[Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
[Fooey on GIU,{MS,X}Windows 4 Bimbos] [Cigar smoke belongs in veg food group] |
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| chucker |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:46 pm |
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I entirely concur. Both men have literally scandalized the Church of
Jesus Christ before the world for the past several years. Their
behavior is a disgrace and infantile.
Mr. Green's childish assertion that he will only comply if Mr. Cobb
follows suit is so infantile it puts one in mind of the children on any
school yard. "I'll stop yelling names at Johnny, if he stops yelling
names at me!"
Frankly, both men need to push away from their computers, from this
newsgroup and grow up. |
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| AGGreen |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:29 pm |
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"chucker" <leushino@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108611993.352523.17310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote: I entirely concur. Both men have literally scandalized the Church of
Jesus Christ before the world for the past several years. Their
behavior is a disgrace and infantile.
Mr. Green's childish assertion that he will only comply if Mr. Cobb
follows suit is so infantile it puts one in mind of the children on any
school yard. "I'll stop yelling names at Johnny, if he stops yelling
names at me!"
Frankly, both men need to push away from their computers, from this
newsgroup and grow up.
***LOL! I'm old enough to be in my second childhood!  |
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| nick cobb |
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:40 pm |
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Green wants a truce, 10 paces with dueling pistols. I'll bring the
pistols - where and when?
AGGreen wrote:
Quote: "Father Anthony Falsarella" <fatheranthony@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:J3JQd.22947$ya6.19571@trndny01...
I think I speak for many in this forum, that the ongoing personal war
between Mr Cobb and Mr Green reflects a situation that is anything but
Orthodox in spirit. Many are seeking news and articles of the Orthodox
world
that may educate or spiritually nuture the reader.
***Exactly correct. And that's why i called a Truce, which is not being
honored by the 'other" party.
Instead we are constantly especially in the past few days have seen
hatred,
jealousy, personal agendas, and overall a general lack of emotional and
spiritual maturity. For any newcomer or someone seeking information of the
church, they find this war of personal hatred that is contrary to the
teachings of the church and the Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus
Christ.
I feel that if either or both parties can't be civil, and try to reflect
the
values and teachings of the Holy Orthodox Church, they should cease
posting
and move on to the Church of Satan forum because that's the values they
reflect.
In other words, grow up and stop being an embarrassment to everyone and
the
Church.
Fr. A+
***I'll take your admonishment. The challenge is, will the other party?
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| Father Anthony Falsarella |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:57 am |
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I concur, and have taken a proactive solution. I just used a "block sender"
command in my Outlook Express for both parties. Now I do not have to witness
any further battling because both names have been blocked from my reception
of any of their newsgroup posts. If enough people do this, than they are
only posting to each other, and their efforts will be in vain because they
will be the only one effected by this ongoing war.
Try it!
Fr. A+
"chucker" <leushino@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108611993.352523.17310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote: I entirely concur. Both men have literally scandalized the Church of
Jesus Christ before the world for the past several years. Their
behavior is a disgrace and infantile.
Mr. Green's childish assertion that he will only comply if Mr. Cobb
follows suit is so infantile it puts one in mind of the children on any
school yard. "I'll stop yelling names at Johnny, if he stops yelling
names at me!"
Frankly, both men need to push away from their computers, from this
newsgroup and grow up.
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| Bbd |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:44 am |
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Alexander Arnakis wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:49:13 GMT, "Father Anthony Falsarella"
fatheranthony@verizon.net> wrote:
I feel that if either or both parties can't be civil, and try to
reflect the
values and teachings of the Holy Orthodox Church, they should cease
posting
and move on to the Church of Satan forum because that's the values
they
reflect.
Even Satan would be embarrassed by their antics. The hallmark of the
Father of Lies is his sophistication. These two would be disowned by
the Devil because of their idiocy.
Maybe the "fear factor" is the best hope for these two:
Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle!
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel!
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.' |
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| chucker |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:24 am |
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Father Anthony Falsarella wrote:
Quote: I concur, and have taken a proactive solution. I just used a "block
sender"
command in my Outlook Express for both parties. Now I do not have to
witness
any further battling because both names have been blocked from my
reception
of any of their newsgroup posts. If enough people do this, than they
are
only posting to each other, and their efforts will be in vain because
they
will be the only one effected by this ongoing war.
Try it!
Fr. A+
"chucker" <leushino@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108611993.352523.17310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I entirely concur. Both men have literally scandalized the Church of
Jesus Christ before the world for the past several years. Their
behavior is a disgrace and infantile.
Mr. Green's childish assertion that he will only comply if Mr. Cobb
follows suit is so infantile it puts one in mind of the children on
any
school yard. "I'll stop yelling names at Johnny, if he stops
yelling
names at me!"
Frankly, both men need to push away from their computers, from this
newsgroup and grow up.
Bless, Father
It's a good method for those who can use a POP account and a newsreader
such as OE or Thunderbird to filter out these two children. But some of
us due to other circumstances are forced to read this group via the web
and thus we have no filtering techniques at our disposal.
And there is another matter: the scandal they are creating before the
world audience, many of whom read this and are driven from the Church
through the hatred demonstrated by these two. Do we not have a
responsibility to them? Is it enough for us to simply take care of
ourselves by filtering out these persons and not concerning ourselves
with those who may be seeking the true Church? Mr. Green simply laughs
off his responsibility saying he is in his second childhood. While it
is true that his behavior is that of a child, it is equally true that
his misrepresentation of the Orthodox Christian life is placing his own
life in peril and is doubtless doing damage to the Church of our Lord
and Savior. We need to find a more permanent solution to this ongoing
travesty. |
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| DeaconBasil |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:47 am |
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"A characteristic of those who are still progressing in blessed mourning is
temperance and silence of the lips; and of those who have made progress –
freedom from anger and patient endurance of injuries; and of the perfect –
humility, thirst for dishonors, voluntary craving for involuntary
afflictions, non-condemnation of sinners, compassion even beyond one’s
strength. The first are acceptable, the second laudable; but blessed are
those who hunger for hardship and thirst for dishonor, for they shall be
filled with the food whereof there can be no satiety."
St. John Climacus, “The Ladder of Divine Ascent,” (Boston: Holy
Transfiguration Monastery, 1978), Step 7: On Joy-Making Mourning
May you both (and thereby this NG) find peace in the coming Great Fast. We
all must recognize that the enemy taunts us at this time each year. It
would be a blessing to this group if by Forgiveness Sunday we could read
posts from each begging the forgiveness of the other.
To that end, let me beg forgiveness from and all who may have been offended
by this, or any of my previous posts.
In Christ,
Father Basil Rusen < fdbasil@softhome.net >
"Father Anthony Falsarella" <fatheranthony@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:J3JQd.22947$ya6.19571@trndny01...
Quote: I think I speak for many in this forum, that the ongoing personal war
between Mr Cobb and Mr Green reflects a situation that is anything but
Orthodox in spirit. Many are seeking news and articles of the Orthodox
world that may educate or spiritually nuture the reader.
Instead we are constantly especially in the past few days have seen
hatred, jealousy, personal agendas, and overall a general lack of
emotional and spiritual maturity. For any newcomer or someone seeking
information of the church, they find this war of personal hatred that is
contrary to the teachings of the church and the Gospel of our Lord and
Savior, Jesus Christ.
I feel that if either or both parties can't be civil, and try to reflect
the values and teachings of the Holy Orthodox Church, they should cease
posting and move on to the Church of Satan forum because that's the values
they reflect.
In other words, grow up and stop being an embarrassment to everyone and
the Church.
Fr. A+
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| AGGreen |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:58 am |
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***Forwarded to Frs. Steven, John, and Michael.
"nick cobb" <nickk@cris.com> wrote in message
news:jfVQd.6190$BR.3608@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com...
Quote: Green wants a truce, 10 paces with dueling pistols. I'll bring the
pistols - where and when?
AGGreen wrote:
"Father Anthony Falsarella" <fatheranthony@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:J3JQd.22947$ya6.19571@trndny01...
I think I speak for many in this forum, that the ongoing personal war
between Mr Cobb and Mr Green reflects a situation that is anything but
Orthodox in spirit. Many are seeking news and articles of the Orthodox
world
that may educate or spiritually nuture the reader.
***Exactly correct. And that's why i called a Truce, which is not being
honored by the 'other" party.
Instead we are constantly especially in the past few days have seen
hatred,
jealousy, personal agendas, and overall a general lack of emotional and
spiritual maturity. For any newcomer or someone seeking information of
the
church, they find this war of personal hatred that is contrary to the
teachings of the church and the Gospel of our Lord and Savior, Jesus
Christ.
I feel that if either or both parties can't be civil, and try to reflect
the
values and teachings of the Holy Orthodox Church, they should cease
posting
and move on to the Church of Satan forum because that's the values they
reflect.
In other words, grow up and stop being an embarrassment to everyone and
the
Church.
Fr. A+
***I'll take your admonishment. The challenge is, will the other party?
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| AGGreen |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:59 am |
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***It works, Father. But I won't block Nick because any attack on me will be
sent to a variety of priests with whom hed claims friendship.
***I have blocked the Commonnonesense guy!.
***I will no longer stoop to Nick's low slime.
"Father Anthony Falsarella" <fatheranthony@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ynWQd.23268$ya6.17601@trndny01...
Quote: I concur, and have taken a proactive solution. I just used a "block
sender"
command in my Outlook Express for both parties. Now I do not have to
witness
any further battling because both names have been blocked from my
reception
of any of their newsgroup posts. If enough people do this, than they are
only posting to each other, and their efforts will be in vain because they
will be the only one effected by this ongoing war.
Try it!
Fr. A+
"chucker" <leushino@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1108611993.352523.17310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I entirely concur. Both men have literally scandalized the Church of
Jesus Christ before the world for the past several years. Their
behavior is a disgrace and infantile.
Mr. Green's childish assertion that he will only comply if Mr. Cobb
follows suit is so infantile it puts one in mind of the children on any
school yard. "I'll stop yelling names at Johnny, if he stops yelling
names at me!"
Frankly, both men need to push away from their computers, from this
newsgroup and grow up.
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| AGGreen |
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 11:02 am |
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"DeaconBasil" <wmr@mbdynamics.com> wrote in message
news:1119f511vs28d19@corp.supernews.com...
Quote: "A characteristic of those who are still progressing in blessed mourning
is
temperance and silence of the lips; and of those who have made progress -
freedom from anger and patient endurance of injuries; and of the perfect -
humility, thirst for dishonors, voluntary craving for involuntary
afflictions, non-condemnation of sinners, compassion even beyond one's
strength. The first are acceptable, the second laudable; but blessed are
those who hunger for hardship and thirst for dishonor, for they shall be
filled with the food whereof there can be no satiety."
St. John Climacus, "The Ladder of Divine Ascent," (Boston: Holy
Transfiguration Monastery, 1978), Step 7: On Joy-Making Mourning
May you both (and thereby this NG) find peace in the coming Great Fast.
We
all must recognize that the enemy taunts us at this time each year. It
would be a blessing to this group if by Forgiveness Sunday we could read
posts from each begging the forgiveness of the other.
***I tried that last year. The other party mocked me.
Al |
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