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| Thore Schmechtig |
 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:37 am |
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Quote: Ain't it funny how "martus" starts his deception in the very subject of
this posting, as wicca != satanism? 
Nothing deceptive about it. Most witches ("wiccans") today ARE Satan
worshippers.
Your evidence being...?
And standard debunked fundie propaganda does NOT count, so don't waste
your feeble brainpower with parroting that ridiculous stuff...
Quote: So wicca = Satanism is a correct equation in most cases.
Wrong. Fundyism = idiocy, however, holds true in every case I ever
observed. ;)
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TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian. |
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| Thore Schmechtig |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:37 am |
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Hi,
Quote: What you said below, is no reason to ban Harry Potter. Witchcraft does not exist.
Oh well, not entirely true. The Wicca faith does exist... but of course
it has nothing to do with the "Evil Satanic Witches" (TM) of fundyism :)
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"From the fury of the Northmen, o Lord, deliver us!"
(Desperate prayer of Irish monks when the Viking dragon ships were sighted. Obviously the Lord had more important things to do than to help his faithful...)
Greetings from Thore "Tocis" Schmechtig
Emails to commoner AT carcosa DOT de will need a "HI-AK 523" in the subject or go down the drain! |
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| jw |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:40 pm |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:34:38 +0100, "Thore Schmechtig"
<WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:
Quote: Hi,
What you said below, is no reason to ban Harry Potter. Witchcraft does not exist.
Oh well, not entirely true. The Wicca faith does exist... but of course
it has nothing to do with the "Evil Satanic Witches" (TM) of fundyism 
Liar liar pants on fire.
jw
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| Dave Oldridge |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 2:46 pm |
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jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:00no30pad44r44tf6f370494cjtuhceunf@4ax.com:
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 17:28:34 GMT, Dave Oldridge
doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
marttila69@hotmail.com (martus) wrote in
news:511a49a.0402240013.68480e75@posting.google.com:
----------- Lets not forget the unnumbered millions of unborn humans
that are ground down for their body parts for such noble purposes as
stem cells.
Can their be any doubt whatsoever that the ghouls are running the
asylum.
Then there are all those people claiming to be good Christian
politicians who gleefully sacrifice other people's children to their
gods Moloch and Mammon by having their minions drop bombs on them with
various pretexts.
You don't have to be an "occultist" to practice human sacrifice. If
you want to do it in a BIG way you need to be a US Democrat or
Republican politician.
(Hint: those who would sacrifice humans always follow the money and
the guns).
If you ever bothered to look genius, fighting wars is not unique to
Christianity. Christians, however, are required to faithfully serve
their government.
Since I never said it was, you are blathering. Nor do I think Christians
should shirk their duty to give military service to their LEGITIMATE
governments. But was it RIGHT for the Germans to look the other way
while Hitler rounded up Jews and Gypsies and had his minions murder them?
Was it RIGHt for people to give individual military support to that
regime?
Quote: If our government calls us to service, we are required by God to
respond. And if you look at history, the German soldiers in the
trenches could be heard singing hymns during WWII.
Your government is a democratic republic. You don't just serve it at the
whim of some leaders, you are also a part of the governing process. That
is to say you exercise sovereignty in your own right and need to exercise
it completely. This can mean withdrawing your pleasure from those who
serve YOU.
Quote: There are NUMEROUS stories about how, at least one Christmas Eve/Day,
both sides left the trenches, came together, exchanged gifts, and sang
hymns and Christmas carols together.
That's nice, but I'm more impressed with the Christianity of Corrie Ten
Boom and of Schindler than with that of the hundreds of thousands who
gave aid to the devil's policies but who celebrated Christmas.
Quote: Defending the government/nation in which we live is VERY scriptural.
It is when it is actually defending civil order. It is NOT when it is
indulging the ambitions of a tyrant. This has been a lesson that we
continually seem to need to relearn.
Quote: RO 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for
there is no authority except that which God has established. The
authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently,
he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has
instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3
For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do
wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then
do what is right and he will commend you. 4 For he is God's servant to
do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the
sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring
punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to
the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also
because of conscience.
Yes...he is speaking of duly constituted civil authority, enforcing
sensible, secular laws that essentially reflect God's commandments in
legal detail. He is NOT suggesting we should help some wannabe tyrant
gang up on some other society.
Quote: RO 13:6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are
God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give everyone
what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then
revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Exactly. And that's why invading Afghanistan made sense to everyone.
You WERE attacked by a group of terrorists actively based there and
supported by that government. That's a just war by any definition. But
Iraq (though, in my opinion justified) was less well explained to the
populace, hence the resistance some people instinctively feel to it. Of
course, it may never have been necessary, if the US hadn't played games
back in the 80's....but that's history and you can only learn from it,
not change it.
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| Dave Oldridge |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:41 pm |
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jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:d7ko301d3q4kkjmvobl2ml5t6unblsqdub@4ax.com:
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:12:37 GMT, Dave Oldridge
doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:brun30579o7k28r87pb6nnooj26mosesgo@4ax.com:
Go to virtually any bookstore or particularly any NEW AGE bookstore.
You will find pentagrams (the signature of witches and Satan
worshippers), and books of incantations and spells. Back in the 70s,
Dell books even got into the act with a 20 page "mini-instruction
book" on witchcraft. I read it and was shocked. The tiny book
actually gave a spell for how to murder someone.
Should you doubt me, write to dell or visit a library that includes
a large section of Witchcraft.
The thing is, John, the chances of someone actually working this spell
are about as good as someone actually working the Lord's prayer.
Think about it.
Think about WHAT? I have seen witchcraft work.
I've seen prayer actually work. But it is not as common as the fakery
that accompanies such notions.
Quote: Unfortunately, such magical notions do tend to lead people to kill
sometimes. The only difference is that the witches tend to skulk
around and kill singly while the pseudo-Christian Moloch worshippers
tend to collect taxes and build weapons of mass destruction. Same for
certain other religions when they hare off after false gods.
And what I said here is the actual case. Not all professed Christians
actually have any trust in God. They trust things like bullets, money
and guns. I notice Islamic militants seem to have the same problem.
They don't TRUST Allah, but think God needs their bullets, money and guns
in order to straighten the world out.
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ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable. |
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:38 pm |
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In article <d7ko301d3q4kkjmvobl2ml5t6unblsqdub@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Think about WHAT? I have seen witchcraft work.
jw
Another clear psychotic episode
Tell your doctor for Christ's sake! |
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:38 pm |
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In article <brun30579o7k28r87pb6nnooj26mosesgo@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:47:27 GMT, Tom McCafferty
burnaby2celista@hotmail.com> wrote:
What you said below, is no reason to ban Harry Potter. Witchcraft does
not exist.
You must be a witch. Witchcraft does exist. I know a number of witches
who openly admit that. And virtually ANYONE whom you see wearing a
pentagram (a five-pointed star in a circle, normally with the point
down -- that means that necklace on YOUR neck) is a witch/Satan
worshipper.
Go to virtually any bookstore or particularly any NEW AGE bookstore.
You will find pentagrams (the signature of witches and Satan
worshippers), and books of incantations and spells. Back in the 70s,
Dell books even got into the act with a 20 page "mini-instruction
book" on witchcraft. I read it and was shocked. The tiny book
actually gave a spell for how to murder someone.
Should you doubt me, write to dell or visit a library that includes a
large section of Witchcraft.
Your comments below are plain 12 year old's foolishness.
jw
MY GOD your head is FULL of RUBBISH!
There aint no witches
There aint no demons
there are no "Possessions"
Deliverance is a fraud
But there sure as hell are a lot of mentally ill people - especially
within the schizophrenic category who when not properly medicated suffer
hallucinations of such manifestations and delusions that they are
experiencing reality
Your problem is that you are running away from a correct diagnosis
And suffering and looking very foolish as a result
As well as hurting other people in defiance of the very Jesus you claim to
believe in!
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| Steve Hayes |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:38 pm |
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On 25 Feb 2004 08:40:41 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:46:03 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
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On 25 Feb 2004 02:37:29 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:20:09 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 06:11:36 GMT, Tom McCafferty <burnaby2celista@hotmail.com
wrote:
Now they are back to persecuting Jews.
A few years ago they persecuted anyone who read fictional books about witchcraft and
wizardry.
Can you give some specifics - dates, times, places?
It's more pervasive than that. Those who oppose America's concrete
solid support of the Palestinians/Arabs OVER the Jews (that's MILLIONS
of people, including suicide bombers, those who bombed the WTC, and
the MANY who continue to express hatred for Jews in American today.
Sorry, you've lost me there.
Who's persecuting whom?
Are you saying Christians are persecuting suicide bombers? Or Christians are
suicide bombers persecuting Jews? Or what?
I'm saying, if you missed it, that Arabs historically hate the Jews
and those who defend the Jews. When Osama knocked down the WTC, he
announced he had done it to the infidel Americans for supporting the
hated jews. He also declared a world-wide jihad. A jihad against
Americans and all those who support Israel or America. What many have
forgotten or missed to begin with was that the jihad included
Christians, whom he named.
So are you saying, if I missed it, that Osama is a Christian?
In what way are Christians doing the persecuting?
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:38 pm |
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In article <841o30tirsredgq7e9sd9da4ap8nc4ia0d@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
You are a demonic liar. I have known probably 50 witches in my
lifetime. MOST were OPEN about their Satan worship, tho they may have
denied worshipping Satan.
In this case psychosis is the most likely explanation |
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:38 pm |
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In article <uu0o30p48s8mhpg3ddrqe4g6kt1jl39402@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Nothing deceptive about it. Most witches ("wiccans") today ARE Satan
worshippers. They just prefer to tell us that they worship either his
"girlfriend" or they say they don't worship Satan, they worship
Lucifer. Or they'll say they don't worship Satan, they worship "the
horned god." There's only one "horned god" folks; the "horned god" is
Satan.
So wicca = Satanism is a correct equation in most cases.
jw
Where witches are portrayed as real the portrayer is either a fraud,
massively under a missapprehension or suffering from a psychosis such as
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:38 pm |
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In article <c02o30dah1g08ks1hdr1tj8imvh5n31gr5@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:47:39 GMT, Tom McCafferty
burnaby2celista@hotmail.com> wrote:
Does this make Harry Potter evil?
Merely because there is witchcraft fantasy (Sabrina, Samantha, Harry
Potter) does NOT preclude their being REAL witchcraft.
I guess if our kids "play house", that means there aren't REAL homes.
jw
A play house is a fantasy house based on the existence of real houses
Witchraft is a fantasy based on psychotic and drug induced hallucinations
and delusions
Fantasies are drawn from all areas of human culture and experience but
they do not necessary connect up with physical reality - except perhaps at
the level of the physical malfunction of and organic damage to brain
cells.
HG Wells fantasised men on the moon - but this does not mean there are any!
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:38 pm |
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In article <r43q301u7f3j3sob29gh2h92c4fjoea3kj@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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And don't forget, Thor (LOL!!!), you and I both know which of us has
more power; and it isn't you!!! You may mess with me from cyberspace;
you'd be smart to not mess with me in public, in person. Others have
tried; they didn't like it!
I'll cast your demons out!
jw
Miaow!
Drink your milk and shut up!
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:38 pm |
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In article <r43q301u7f3j3sob29gh2h92c4fjoea3kj@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I'll cast your demons out!
jw
When you come out of this particular mad phase please read the crap you
wrote in it
You are nutty as a fruit cake in these periods
Bonkers!!!!!!!!
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:39 pm |
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In article <00no30pad44r44tf6f370494cjtuhceunf@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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If you ever bothered to look genius, fighting wars is not unique to
Christianity. Christians, however, are required to faithfully serve
their government.
By your logic then the Taliban fighters imprisoned in the American Base in
Cuba are incorrectly imprisoned and should be set free.
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If our government calls us to service, we are required by God to
respond. And if you look at history, the German soldiers in the
trenches could be heard singing hymns during WWII.
This is a point at which I wish you could have met my grandmother and my
great aunt who both lost their partners in the Great War.
They'd spit in your face for what you said here, and for the loneliness
they suffered for over fifty years as a result of those who
unquestioningly serve governments and demand that others do the same
Your love of militarism and government sanctioned murder is a disgrace to
Christianity!
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There are NUMEROUS stories about how, at least one Christmas Eve/Day,
both sides left the trenches, came together, exchanged gifts, and sang
hymns and Christmas carols together.
Until their commanders drew them apart for fear that peace might break out!
Your nationalism is so entwined with personal ideology that it becomes
indistinguishable from the mentality that incites genocide.
You are no Christian of a kind I have ever met
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| Tom McCafferty |
| Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:38 am |
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"jw
Quote: x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:47:27 GMT, Tom McCafferty
burnaby2celista@hotmail.com> wrote:
What you said below, is no reason to ban Harry Potter. Witchcraft does not exist.
You must be a witch.
So what if I am?
Quote: Witchcraft does exist. I know a number of witches
who openly admit that. And virtually ANYONE whom you see wearing a
pentagram (a five-pointed star in a circle, normally with the point
down -- that means that necklace on YOUR neck) is a witch/Satan
worshipper.
Funny, witches have a 5 pointed star and jews have a 6 pointed star.
Quote:
Go to virtually any bookstore or particularly any NEW AGE bookstore.
You will find pentagrams (the signature of witches and Satan
worshippers), and books of incantations and spells. Back in the 70s,
Dell books even got into the act with a 20 page "mini-instruction
book" on witchcraft. I read it and was shocked. The tiny book
*actually gave a spell for how to murder someone.*
Apparently, that is covered in a Harry Potter book, but that is fiction.
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Should you doubt me, write to dell or visit a library that includes a
large section of Witchcraft.
Actually, I have seen a Witchcraft for Dummies, book. |
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