But as the 10th anniversary of the House of Horrors murders
approaches, evidence has emerged of a sinister new twist to their
crimes - with an expert's claims that they were devil-worshippers
whose victims were human sacrifices.

Ain't it funny how "martus" starts his deception in the very subject of
this posting, as wicca != satanism?

jw
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:34:19 -0500, "Geoman" <Geomaan@yaaho.com
wrote:


"u2 fan" <aha@aha.aha> wrote in message news:c1dfq1$h46$1@sparta.btinternet.com...

Well the persecution is a sign of the pre-tribulation prior to the lords
return and their faith, it may get much worse as Lk 21v12 "before all this"

You say this as if this is the first time the church has seen this much 'tribulation'.
There is a book called Fox's book of the Martyrs, and another called Martyr's Mirror. In
them you will see that 'tribulation' and persecutions have been going on since the time of
Christ. So, why does current events make this the hour of 'tribulation'? Is it because we
now have nukes and they didn't? Is it because we now have mass communication now and it is
reported more or is there actually more persecution?

Dispensationalists have been saying the tribulation is 'at the door!" Jack VanImpe has
been changing his messages for over 30 years to keep up with current events to show how
close it is. I call this 'Headline" prophecy! Rubbish., we are to wait and expect the
Lord, as Paul stated, but this rubbish that the church is into now is disqusting!


You didn't quite clarify what "rubbish the church is into now..." I
agree to an extent, but what are YOU talking about?

I'm also one who believes we're in the Tribulation NOW. And I'm not
nutty enough to believe it's going to be 7 LITERAL years.

You are right it is not the 7 years but half of that and expanded
by the 1260 days into years, so in effect it was not 7 years nor even
3 1/2 years but it was for one thousand 2 hundred sixty years.
It started when the first man took the throne of Rome in the Vatican
and declared himself the Papa or the Pope, in 538ce. until 1798 when
that pope was arrested and thrown in Prison where he died and there
was no pope to finish out that year on the throne in Vatican.
IN fact that is the Wound of one of the heads of the Beast.
That wound was not healed until 1929 when Mussolini reinstated a pope
on that Throne and the news papers said "THE WOUND IS HEALED".

Man this is to prophetically correct to be coincidental.

Misty,


snip

What you said below, is no reason to ban Harry Potter.

But as the 10th anniversary of the House of Horrors murders
approaches, evidence has emerged of a sinister new twist to their
crimes - with an expert's claims that they were devil-worshippers
whose victims were human sacrifices.

Ain't it funny how "martus" starts his deception in the very subject of
this posting, as wicca != satanism?

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 04:40:55 -0800 (PST), "TehGhodTrole"
nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote:

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On 24 Feb 2004 06:15:19 GMT, "TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net
wrote:

Tom McCafferty wrote:
Now they are back to persecuting Jews.

That'd be the fake christians. Real Christians do not persecute
Jews.

They better not. There are STERN warnings about anyone "touching"
the Chosen/Israel.

The last government that did, the Nazis, are gone now, aren't they?
That should tell you something.

Are you for real? Did you understand a single word of what I wrote?

Yes. I did. I was agreeing with you. Did you understand a single word
of what I wrote?

jw
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:34:19 -0500, "Geoman" <Geomaan@yaaho.com
wrote:


"u2 fan" <aha@aha.aha> wrote in message
news:c1dfq1$h46$1@sparta.btinternet.com...

Well the persecution is a sign of the pre-tribulation prior to the
lords
return and their faith, it may get much worse as Lk 21v12 "before all
this"

You say this as if this is the first time the church has seen this much
'tribulation'.
There is a book called Fox's book of the Martyrs, and another called
Martyr's Mirror. In
them you will see that 'tribulation' and persecutions have been going on
since the time of
Christ. So, why does current events make this the hour of 'tribulation'?
Is it because we
now have nukes and they didn't? Is it because we now have mass
communication now and it is
reported more or is there actually more persecution?

Dispensationalists have been saying the tribulation is 'at the door!"
Jack VanImpe has
been changing his messages for over 30 years to keep up with current
events to show how
close it is. I call this 'Headline" prophecy! Rubbish., we are to wait
and expect the
Lord, as Paul stated, but this rubbish that the church is into now is
disqusting!


You didn't quite clarify what "rubbish the church is into now..." I
agree to an extent, but what are YOU talking about?

I'm also one who believes we're in the Tribulation NOW. And I'm not
nutty enough to believe it's going to be 7 LITERAL years.

You are right it is not the 7 years but half of that and expanded
by the 1260 days into years, so in effect it was not 7 years nor even
3 1/2 years but it was for one thousand 2 hundred sixty years.
It started when the first man took the throne of Rome in the Vatican
and declared himself the Papa or the Pope, in 538ce. until 1798 when
that pope was arrested and thrown in Prison where he died and there
was no pope to finish out that year on the throne in Vatican.
IN fact that is the Wound of one of the heads of the Beast.
That wound was not healed until 1929 when Mussolini reinstated a pope
on that Throne and the news papers said "THE WOUND IS HEALED".

Man this is to prophetically correct to be coincidental.

Misty,


snip

Go to virtually any bookstore or particularly any NEW AGE bookstore.
You will find pentagrams (the signature of witches and Satan
worshippers), and books of incantations and spells. Back in the 70s,
Dell books even got into the act with a 20 page "mini-instruction
book" on witchcraft. I read it and was shocked. The tiny book
actually gave a spell for how to murder someone.

Should you doubt me, write to dell or visit a library that includes a
large section of Witchcraft.

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:20:09 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 06:11:36 GMT, Tom McCafferty <burnaby2celista@hotmail.com
wrote:

Now they are back to persecuting Jews.

A few years ago they persecuted anyone who read fictional books about witchcraft and
wizardry.

Can you give some specifics - dates, times, places?

It's more pervasive than that. Those who oppose America's concrete
solid support of the Palestinians/Arabs OVER the Jews (that's MILLIONS
of people, including suicide bombers, those who bombed the WTC, and
the MANY who continue to express hatred for Jews in American today.

jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:brun30579o7k28r87pb6nnooj26mosesgo@4ax.com:

Go to virtually any bookstore or particularly any NEW AGE bookstore.
You will find pentagrams (the signature of witches and Satan
worshippers), and books of incantations and spells. Back in the 70s,
Dell books even got into the act with a 20 page "mini-instruction
book" on witchcraft. I read it and was shocked. The tiny book
actually gave a spell for how to murder someone.

Should you doubt me, write to dell or visit a library that includes a
large section of Witchcraft.

The thing is, John, the chances of someone actually working this spell
are about as good as someone actually working the Lord's prayer.

Think about it.

Unfortunately, such magical notions do tend to lead people to kill
sometimes. The only difference is that the witches tend to skulk around
and kill singly while the pseudo-Christian Moloch worshippers tend to
collect taxes and build weapons of mass destruction. Same for certain
other religions when they hare off after false gods.

marttila69@hotmail.com (martus) wrote in
news:511a49a.0402240013.68480e75@posting.google.com:

----------- Lets not forget the unnumbered millions of unborn humans
that are ground down for their body parts for such noble purposes as
stem cells.

Can their be any doubt whatsoever that the ghouls are running the
asylum.

Then there are all those people claiming to be good Christian politicians
who gleefully sacrifice other people's children to their gods Moloch and
Mammon by having their minions drop bombs on them with various pretexts.

You don't have to be an "occultist" to practice human sacrifice. If you
want to do it in a BIG way you need to be a US Democrat or Republican
politician.

(Hint: those who would sacrifice humans always follow the money and the
guns).

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:47:27 GMT, Tom McCafferty
burnaby2celista@hotmail.com> wrote:
What you said below, is no reason to ban Harry Potter.

Now christian nuts are out to get "Scooby Doo" to! No
cartoon will be safe!

On 25 Feb 2004 02:37:29 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:20:09 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 06:11:36 GMT, Tom McCafferty <burnaby2celista@hotmail.com
wrote:

Now they are back to persecuting Jews.

A few years ago they persecuted anyone who read fictional books about witchcraft and
wizardry.

Can you give some specifics - dates, times, places?

It's more pervasive than that. Those who oppose America's concrete
solid support of the Palestinians/Arabs OVER the Jews (that's MILLIONS
of people, including suicide bombers, those who bombed the WTC, and
the MANY who continue to express hatred for Jews in American today.

Sorry, you've lost me there.

Who's persecuting whom?

Are you saying Christians are persecuting suicide bombers? Or Christians are
suicide bombers persecuting Jews? Or what?

Ain't it funny how "martus" starts his deception in the very subject of
this posting, as wicca != satanism?
This guy really will believe any old nonsense Thore, as long as it
backs up his "my god is right and all yours are wrong" stance (Martus
is most definitely guilty of No 1 below, probably guilty of the others
as well!).

This guy really will believe any old nonsense Thore, as long as it
backs up his "my god is right and all yours are wrong" stance
You are a demonic liar.

I have known probably 50 witches in my
lifetime. MOST were OPEN about their Satan worship, tho they may have
denied worshipping Satan.

Let me explain what I mean. Some denied worshipping Satan, then
admitted to worshipping Lucifer. (for those of you who didn't get
that, "Lucifer" is merely another name for Satan, his pre-"fall" name)

THEN there are those who deny they worship Satan and explain that they
worship "the horned god." If you look, there is only one "horned
god"; his name is Satan.

If you see the person PROMINENTLY wearing a pentagram (a 5 pointed
star in a circle), you can PRESUME this person is a Satan worshipper,
by whatever name.

...several
upside down crosses in circles (also known as a "peace" sign from the
60s, another Satanic symbol)...

His an OPEN devil worshipper; if he' not (as some suggest) he has NO
problem with being identified as one, and even encourages it.

the UNWRITTEN RULES OF SATAN WORSHIPPERS