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~z~
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:37 pm
Guest
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not. A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?
 
#
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:47 pm
Guest
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

Quote:
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not. A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Who told you that? Have you not read the Bible?

In Matthew 28:18-20, we find what is commonly referred to as The Great
Commission:

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has
been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing
them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and
teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with
you always, to the very end of the age."

The following gospel was preached by the apostles along with a message of
repentance and baptism:

"We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in
Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a tree, but God raised him
from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. He was not seen
by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen¡Vby us who
ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. He commanded us to
preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed
as judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him
that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his
name."
Acts 10:39-43 NIV

Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which
you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are
saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you
have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first
importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that
he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the
Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve.
1 Corinthians 15:1-5 NIV
 
alt
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:42 pm
Guest
~z~ wrote:

Quote:
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Paul mentions Jesus a lot, but not necessarily by that name. Paul more often
uses the Greek word "Christos" as well as using the pronoun "him" and
"Lord".



--
Donovan Hill
Linux User, Christian, Canadian, and all-around nice guy!
 
William
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:04 pm
Guest
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, "~z~" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not. A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

He rarely mentioned the earthly Jesus. He never met him and didn't
take much account of what he was told about him.

William
 
jesse
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:11 pm
Guest
Paul was most like the boy whose robes were torn away as the Romans came to
take Jesus to trial and crucifixion. He met Jesus, but was very young at
the time, so unlikely he knew him for long.

"William" <tielige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote in message
news:l8lq01had3rdspp9vc6baq0c3cqp7drsku@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, "~z~" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

He rarely mentioned the earthly Jesus. He never met him and didn't
take much account of what he was told about him.

William
 
Zadok
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:05 pm
Guest
Jesse writes:

Paul was most like the boy whose robes were torn away as the Romans came to
take Jesus to trial and crucifixion. He met Jesus, but was very young at
the time, so unlikely he knew him for long.

Amazing what they post.

Do you have any reference for what you say. Give us some actual piece that
says that Paul met Jesus when he was very young.
 
Chuckles
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:20 pm
Guest
"~z~" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:cujfim$m0$0@pita.alt.net...

Quote:
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not. A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Paul mentions Jesus alright, but it's a Jesus he concocted out of his
own inflamed mind. Paul never met the real Jesus, who would have
told him to hit the road.
 
alt
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:36 pm
Guest
Chuckles wrote:

Quote:
"~z~" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:cujfim$m0$0@pita.alt.net...

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Paul mentions Jesus alright, but it's a Jesus he concocted out of his
own inflamed mind. Paul never met the real Jesus, who would have
told him to hit the road.

Paul met Jesus on the road to Damascus.

--
Donovan Hill
Linux User, Christian, Canadian, and all-around nice guy!
 
~z~
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:09 am
Guest
"#" <911@numbers.for.you> wrote in message
news:gy905m55soko.1bo68jne261m8$.dlg@40tude.net...
Quote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Who told you that? Have you not read the Bible?

In Matthew 28:18-20, we find what is commonly referred to as The Great
Commission:

Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth
has
been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing
them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and
teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am
with
you always, to the very end of the age."

The following gospel was preached by the apostles along with a message of
repentance and baptism:

"We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in
Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a tree, but God raised him
from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. He was not seen
by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen¡Vby us who
ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. He commanded us to
preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed
as judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him
that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his
name."
Acts 10:39-43 NIV

Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which
you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you
are
saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you
have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first
importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
that
he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the
Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve.
1 Corinthians 15:1-5 NIV

Surely there must be more than this--only two paragraphs for the founder of
the releigion?--or is this just a sampling of a larger body of references?
 
~z~
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:34 am
Guest
"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
news:cicPd.43470$L_3.14831@clgrps13...
Quote:
~z~ wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Paul mentions Jesus a lot, but not necessarily by that name. Paul more
often
uses the Greek word "Christos" as well as using the pronoun "him" and
"Lord".



--
Donovan Hill
Linux User, Christian, Canadian, and all-around nice guy!

My Bible has a concordance, but Jesus isn't listed. Perhaps other Bibles
have a name index. Paul wrote prior to the writing of the Gospels, right?
 
#
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:55 am
Guest
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:09:41 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

Quote:
"We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in
Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a tree, but God raised him
from the dead on the third day and caused him to be seen. He was not seen
by all the people, but by witnesses whom God had already chosen¡Vby us who
ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead. He commanded us to
preach to the people and to testify that he is the one whom God appointed
as judge of the living and the dead. All the prophets testify about him
that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his
name."
Acts 10:39-43 NIV

Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which
you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you
are
saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you
have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first
importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
that
he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the
Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve.
1 Corinthians 15:1-5 NIV

Surely there must be more than this--only two paragraphs for the founder of
the releigion?--or is this just a sampling of a larger body of references?

That is right - a mere sampling, making it clear what message was being
preached at the foundation of the church.

Perhaps you would be better off taking the time to actually read the text
instead of looking at the concordance.

Give Hebrews a try sometime.
 
#
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:04 am
Guest
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

Quote:
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not. A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Try here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/index.php?search=jesus&searchtype=all&version=31&startnumber=11&startnumber=933

and change the "Display" number from "25" to "500" verses and references
 
alt
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 2:55 am
Guest
~z~ wrote:

Quote:

"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
news:cicPd.43470$L_3.14831@clgrps13...
~z~ wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Paul mentions Jesus a lot, but not necessarily by that name. Paul more
often
uses the Greek word "Christos" as well as using the pronoun "him" and
"Lord".



--
Donovan Hill
Linux User, Christian, Canadian, and all-around nice guy!

My Bible has a concordance, but Jesus isn't listed. Perhaps other Bibles
have a name index. Paul wrote prior to the writing of the Gospels, right?

Ummm... no. I suggest you read the Book of Acts to understand where Paul
fits into the picture.

--
Donovan Hill
Linux User, Christian, Canadian, and all-around nice guy!
 
~z~
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:56 am
Guest
"#" <911@numbers.for.you> wrote in message
news:1n4fioxmowkt0.1g3tyy9p2iimg$.dlg@40tude.net...
Quote:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Try here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/index.php?search=jesus&searchtype=all&version=31&startnumber=11&startnumber=933

and change the "Display" number from "25" to "500" verses and references

Thank you, I bookmarked the site........

Now, about your sarcasm........what shall we do about that?

Have you ever considered that sarcasm is a thinly veiled substitute for
physical violence, and that the recipient senses the taut as a challenge?
And things sort of escalate. I never have really got the hang of turning
the other cheek, so your use of sarcasm as a way of getting the upper hand
in a conversation, could result in blowback of some kind....sort of like you
are getting right now. You know the Hindus believe if you act like a jerk
in this life you come back in your next life as a Donkey, and not only have
to carry stuff, but the food is lousy. But I don't have that kind of
pull to do that---but I might just put in a word in high places for you to
come back as a Jehovah's Witness.......
 
William
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:58 pm
Guest
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:11:31 -0600, "jesse"
<lordprofessor@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Paul was most like the boy whose robes were torn away as the Romans came to
take Jesus to trial and crucifixion. He met Jesus, but was very young at
the time, so unlikely he knew him for long.

What evidence do you have for that? There has been speculation that he
was at the stoning of Stephen.

William

Quote:
"William" <tielige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote
"~z~" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

He rarely mentioned the earthly Jesus. He never met him and didn't
take much account of what he was told about him.

William
 
 
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