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old man joe...
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:08 am
 
Bibles are readily available, especially in the USA and anyone wanting to know the truth spoken of
by God Himself, Jer. 36:1-8, to us, 2 Tim. 3:16,17, can read and study it to find out if he or she
is practicing the truth contained therein.

there is no proof whatsoever in the Bible that Mary was bodily assumed into heaven without seeing
death and therefore there is no proof available to give credence to such a claim... it's been
concocted only to conjure up a lie. Mary's worshipers would cry " injustice ! " if the State would
lay a charge of a capital crime on them which they did not commit. yet, while claiming to be
" Christian, " Mary's worshipers do everything they can against God's revealed Word and worship
idols and the dead people they represent anyway.

neither is there any proof whatsoever that Mary was born sinless... she admitted she was a sinner no
different than everyone else in Lk. 1:47. if fact, God declares there are no exceptions in mankind
as to the charge of sin against us, Ro. 3:10 and following.

neither is Mary the so called " Mother of God " because we read in the Bible that Jesus Christ has
no earthly mother, Heb. 7:1-11, and has no earthly father, v.3, since Christ Himself is The
Everlasting Father, Isa. 9:6. furthermore, we are told in the Bible that Christ made payment for
the sins of His elect ones before He ever created the universe, Rev. 13:8; Heb. 4:3 et al. no
humans were yet created at that time in eternity to assist the Living God in the work of redemption.
such would make salvation done in part by man's help which is completely contrary to Holy Scripture.
the real mother of Jesus Christ giving ' birth ' to Him in eternity past in His work of redemption
is the heavenly Jerusalem, Gal. 4:26, which is heaven itself, the abode of the Living God created by
Him.

neither is Mary to receive honor as though she did something more than required of her by God,
Lk. 17:10. good works done by the elect are done only because God caused in them to do according to
the good pleasure of His will, not man's will, Eph. 2:10; Ps. 110:3.

the all seeing, all knowing and all hearing attributes of the Living God are heaped upon Mary by her
worshipers. with these attributes heaped on Mary, or any other dead person, Mary then becomes the
goddess deity worshiped as God; it being supposed that a part of Creation has the attributes of
God.

Mary is a part of God's Creation just like the rest of us... the idol worshipers / people worshipers
actually worship Creation. they teach children to worship the dead and we are sure that since the
Bible no where lays special attributes on Mary, while alive nor dead, she has no special attributes
such as given her by the idol worshipers / people worshipers. it's all a lie.

there is no escaping the fact that the practice of laying on people the attributes of God is
idolatry. the idol worshiping people worshipers redefine the English language they use everyday
changing the definitions of such words as ' worship, veneration, homage, respect, honor, etc.,
in order to get around charges in the Bible of being idol worshipping people worshipers as God in
the Bible defines the terms; the fact remains that they give to dead Mary the attributes of God
along with giving the attributes of God to the countless other dead ' saints ' whom they get on
their knees to and pray to, burn incense to, light candles to and have public processions to.

the practices of praying to the dead must of necessity presuppose the belief that the dead are
living and listening attentively to the cry's of their worshipers. this belief then validates the
necromancer's practice of calling up the dead only because they give to the dead the attributes of
the Living God. redefining Holy Scripture and the English language to try and get around the
charges against them as found in the Bible is but one way they expose themselves as idol worshipping
people worshipers of the dead.

there is no getting around the fact that these idol worshipers give to the dead the attributes of
the Living God. their use of the Bible goes only so far so as to troll out names of dead people to
worship... and calling upon dead Mary to forgive their sins as Penance to gain Absolution on their
Rosary beads certainly is worship in supposing dead Mary is all hearing, all knowing and all seeing
to render help to her worshipers as the multitudes of them around the world bow their knees calling
upon her simultaneously.

this is why God lets us that idol worshipers are not redeemed, 1 Cor. 6:9,10 and will have their
part in the Lake of Fire come Judgement Day, Rev. 21:8. if the idol worshipers believed the Bible
they would not be worshipping idols... they simply don't believe the Bible. they do not want their
religious beliefs tampered with by posting God's Word against it, yet, this is exactly what we are
commanded to do, Eph.5:11.

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" Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. "
Gal. 6:7
 
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:07 am
 
There is no proof whatsoever in the bible St. Thomas died.

As for mother of God:

"neither is Mary the so called " Mother of God " because we read in the
Bible th
at Jesus Christ has
no earthly mother, Heb. 7:1-11"

Another harold camping teaching. Joe tried this one before, and it
flopped then too.

What the Heb. says is this:

3] He is without father or mother or genealogy, and has neither
beginning
of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a
priest for ever.

And of whom was it speaking? Melchiz'edek of course.

Christ as son of God existed from the beginning and had no mother.
Jesus Christ was both man and God and had a mother, and she was Mary.
She was His mother, end of story.

May God bless and protect.
 
old man joe...
Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:21 am
 
On 27 Oct 2010 15:07:49 GMT, holyfool at (no spam) wondering.com wrote:

Quote:
There is no proof whatsoever in the bible St. Thomas died.

As for mother of God:

"neither is Mary the so called " Mother of God " because we read in the
Bible th
at Jesus Christ has
no earthly mother, Heb. 7:1-11"


Another harold camping teaching. Joe tried this one before, and it
flopped then too.

what you say is a charge against me... its what the Bible says that counts for anything and you show
no verses to prove any point you are trying to avoid making.


Quote:

What the Heb. says is this:

3] He is without father or mother or genealogy, and has neither
beginning
of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a
priest for ever.

And of whom was it speaking? Melchiz'edek of course.

you can not see that Melchizedek is Jesus Christ Himself in Heb. 7:2. who, in your religion, is the
King of Righteousness, Mary ? the Pope ?
Quote:

Christ as son of God existed from the beginning and had no mother.
Jesus Christ was both man and God and had a mother, and she was Mary.
She was His mother, end of story.

to the contrary, Heb. 7:3.

Quote:

May God bless and protect.

it's always the case that when the name of Mary comes up the people worshipers have the need to
defend their worship of her. Mary's worshipers are not saved, 1 Cor. 6:9,10 since they are
necromancers, De. 18:10-13... calling upon dead Mary and giving to her the attributes of God.
 
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:33 am
 
Quote:
There is no proof whatsoever in the bible St. Thomas died.

As for mother of God:

"neither is Mary the so called " Mother of God " because we read in the
Bible th
at Jesus Christ has
no earthly mother, Heb. 7:1-11"

Another harold camping teaching. Joe tried this one before, and it
flopped then too.

"what you say is a charge against me... its what the Bible says that
counts for anything and you show no verses to prove any point you are
trying to avoid making."

Sure, just hold on so we can review the scripture again for you.


Quote:
What the Heb. says is this:

3] He is without father or mother or genealogy, and has neither
beginning
of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a
priest for ever.

And of whom was it speaking? Melchiz'edek of course.

"you can not see that Melchizedek is Jesus Christ Himself in Heb. 7:2.
who, in your religion, is the King of Righteousness, Mary ? the Pope ?"

Some have suggested that interpretation, there is no agreement on it.
Now read again below the direct response to your point, which as before
when you tried this makes it a flop. If you say Jesus Christ had no
mother then you deny He is both God and man. The king of righteousness
is Christ, no mere human can be same. I have no pope. >

Quote:
Christ as son of God existed from the beginning and had no mother.
Jesus Christ was both man and God and had a mother, and she was Mary.
She was His mother, end of story.

to the contrary, Heb. 7:3.

Quote:

May God bless and protect.

 
 
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