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| John Manning... |
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:50 pm |
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"Nobody is sitting in Iran today developing nuclear weapons.
Tehran doesn’t have an ongoing nuclear weapons program. But
somehow, everyone in the West is talking about how Iran’s
nuclear program is the greatest threat to the world. In many
ways, I think the threat has been hyped.
Yes, there’s concern and Iran needs to be more transparent
with the IAEA. We still have outstanding questions about some
of the research they’ve conducted, and we still need to verify
that there aren’t undeclared activities taking place inside of
the country.
But the idea that we’ll wake up tomorrow and Iran will have a
nuclear weapon is crazy. We just haven’t seen any indication
of that.”
~Mohammed El Baradei, the current IAEA head
http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2009/09/hyperventilating-about-the-iran-nuclear-threat.html |
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| Honest truth... |
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:05 pm |
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If you had followed the links in the article John Manning the fool posted
but never read he would have found the US claims are confirmed by Mohammed
El Baradei, the current IAEA head
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1500167.php/ElBaradei-High-probability-Iran-worked-on-bomb-in-the-past-Extra
Vienna - There was a 'high probability' that Iran worked to develop
nuclear
weapons in the past, if intelligence information in that regard is genuine,
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief Mohamed ElBaradei said
Wednesday in Vienna.
ElBaradei was referring to documents received by his organization that
points to a number of suspicious Iranian studies, including the
modification of the model of a missile to carry a nuclear warhead.
'I am not a scientist, but I can tell you this: If this information is
real, there is a high probability that nuclear weaponization activities
have taken place,' he said. 'But I should underline 'if' three times.'
Speaking at the board meeting of the IAEA, ElBaradei called on Iran to
finally clarify these issues.
Read more:
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/news/article_1500167.php/ElBaradei-High-probability-Iran-worked-on-bomb-in-the-past-Extra#ixzz0WEIA3qN5
Quote: "Nobody is sitting in Iran today developing nuclear weapons.
Tehran doesn¡¦t have an ongoing nuclear weapons program. But
somehow, everyone in the West is talking about how Iran¡¦s
nuclear program is the greatest threat to the world. In many
ways, I think the threat has been hyped.
Yes, there¡¦s concern and Iran needs to be more transparent
with the IAEA. We still have outstanding questions about some
of the research they¡¦ve conducted, and we still need to verify
that there aren¡¦t undeclared activities taking place inside of
the country.
But the idea that we¡¦ll wake up tomorrow and Iran will have a
nuclear weapon is crazy. We just haven¡¦t seen any indication
of that.¡¨
~Mohammed El Baradei, the current IAEA head
http://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2009/09/hyperventilating-about-the-iran-nuclear-threat.html
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¡§Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man¡¦s nature, there is
not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. ¡K If the Jews are rich [these
fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of
ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take
advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it
is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells
in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to
his own land, he is prevented from doing so.¡¨
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| •R.L.Measures... |
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:47 pm |
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In article <h9ednYhRFb6RdWvXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
<jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
Quote: •R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <1r2i9p1zk2uc0.dnpjzccj8xad$.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:47:51 -0200, John Manning wrote:
¡ER.L.Measures wrote:
In article <gfx0caxrbbkp$.13xftf1ak3ugu.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
If you had followed the links in the article John Manning the fool
posted
but never read he would have found the US claims are confirmed by
Mohammed
El Baradei, the current IAEA head
¡E there are people in this world who are virtually blindeded by their
anii-Semitism.
Fuck you, Rich.
Wake up John Manning monkey, evolution has left you behind.
• and so much hate he no longer sees straight.
It's hard for me to believe what you just said, Rich.
• you can take it to the bank John.
Quote:
My position has always been for equal rights and justice for ALL human
beings under the international laws the USA has stood for and signed onto:
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
Our famous words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness," did not declare that some men
(and women) are without unalienable rights.
Likewise, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, created by the
United Nations in 1948 and signed and ratified by the U.S. Congress,
specifies in its preamble that "recognition of the inherent dignity and
of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family
is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world."
-You're the homophobic bigot who doesn't think gays should have equal
legal marriage rights [including the title of 'marriage' itself] with
heteros.
• correct. I don't think a 700-yr old definition should be changed to
accomodate what is essentially a special interest group with unusually
sensitive feelings.
Quote:
You're also the anti-Islamic bigot xenophobe who simply cannot recognize
that Israel has for decades unjustly abused and oppressed the
Palestinian people as a whole - including issuing them different legal
rights in the Israeli courts.
I used to have respect for you, but you have shown yourself to be
nothing more than an ideological xenophobe and homophobic bigot.
• shades of Duwayne?
cheers
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| John Manning... |
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:52 pm |
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•R.L.Measures wrote:
Quote: In article <h9ednYhRFb6RdWvXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <1r2i9p1zk2uc0.dnpjzccj8xad$.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:47:51 -0200, John Manning wrote:
¡ER.L.Measures wrote:
In article <gfx0caxrbbkp$.13xftf1ak3ugu.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
If you had followed the links in the article John Manning the fool
posted
but never read he would have found the US claims are confirmed by
Mohammed
El Baradei, the current IAEA head
¡E there are people in this world who are virtually blindeded by their
anii-Semitism.
Fuck you, Rich.
Wake up John Manning monkey, evolution has left you behind.
• and so much hate he no longer sees straight.
It's hard for me to believe what you just said, Rich.
• you can take it to the bank John.
My position has always been for equal rights and justice for ALL human
beings under the international laws the USA has stood for and signed onto:
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
Our famous words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness," did not declare that some men
(and women) are without unalienable rights.
Likewise, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, created by the
United Nations in 1948 and signed and ratified by the U.S. Congress,
specifies in its preamble that "recognition of the inherent dignity and
of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family
is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world."
-You're the homophobic bigot who doesn't think gays should have equal
legal marriage rights [including the title of 'marriage' itself] with
heteros.
• correct. I don't think a 700-yr old definition should be changed to
accomodate what is essentially a special interest group with unusually
sensitive feelings.
You're also the anti-Islamic bigot xenophobe who simply cannot recognize
that Israel has for decades unjustly abused and oppressed the
Palestinian people as a whole - including issuing them different legal
rights in the Israeli courts.
I used to have respect for you, but you have shown yourself to be
nothing more than an ideological xenophobe and homophobic bigot.
• shades of Duwayne?
Nope. I see shades of ideological xenophobia and homophobic bigotry.
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| •R.L.Measures... |
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:58 pm |
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In article <w8mdnee2HrBb1mrXnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
<jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
Quote: •R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <h9ednYhRFb6RdWvXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <1r2i9p1zk2uc0.dnpjzccj8xad$.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:47:51 -0200, John Manning wrote:
¡ER.L.Measures wrote:
In article <gfx0caxrbbkp$.13xftf1ak3ugu.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
If you had followed the links in the article John Manning the fool
posted
but never read he would have found the US claims are confirmed by
Mohammed
El Baradei, the current IAEA head
¡E there are people in this world who are virtually blindeded by their
anii-Semitism.
Fuck you, Rich.
Wake up John Manning monkey, evolution has left you behind.
• and so much hate he no longer sees straight.
It's hard for me to believe what you just said, Rich.
• you can take it to the bank John.
My position has always been for equal rights and justice for ALL human
beings under the international laws the USA has stood for and signed onto:
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
Our famous words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness," did not declare that some men
(and women) are without unalienable rights.
Likewise, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, created by the
United Nations in 1948 and signed and ratified by the U.S. Congress,
specifies in its preamble that "recognition of the inherent dignity and
of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family
is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world."
-You're the homophobic bigot who doesn't think gays should have equal
legal marriage rights [including the title of 'marriage' itself] with
heteros.
• correct. I don't think a 700-yr old definition should be changed to
accomodate what is essentially a special interest group with unusually
sensitive feelings.
You're also the anti-Islamic bigot xenophobe who simply cannot recognize
that Israel has for decades unjustly abused and oppressed the
Palestinian people as a whole - including issuing them different legal
rights in the Israeli courts.
I used to have respect for you, but you have shown yourself to be
nothing more than an ideological xenophobe and homophobic bigot.
• shades of Duwayne?
Nope. I see shades of ideological xenophobia and homophobic bigotry.
• Gay couples have the right to form unions called domestic
partnerships. Straight couples have the same rights -- but the name of
the union is different.
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org |
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| •R.L.Measures... |
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:30 pm |
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In article <peydnQrYidXxiGXXnZ2dnUVZ_rFi4p2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
<jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
Quote: •R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <f--dnT53ULMVmWXXnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <w8mdnee2HrBb1mrXnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <h9ednYhRFb6RdWvXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <1r2i9p1zk2uc0.dnpjzccj8xad$.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:47:51 -0200, John Manning wrote:
¡ER.L.Measures wrote:
In article <gfx0caxrbbkp$.13xftf1ak3ugu.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
If you had followed the links in the article John Manning
the fool
posted
but never read he would have found the US claims are confirmed by
Mohammed
El Baradei, the current IAEA head
¡E there are people in this world who are virtually blindeded
by their
anii-Semitism.
Fuck you, Rich.
Wake up John Manning monkey, evolution has left you behind.
• and so much hate he no longer sees straight.
It's hard for me to believe what you just said, Rich.
• you can take it to the bank John.
My position has always been for equal rights and justice for ALL human
beings under the international laws the USA has stood for and
signed onto:
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
Our famous words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness," did not declare that some men
(and women) are without unalienable rights.
Likewise, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, created by the
United Nations in 1948 and signed and ratified by the U.S. Congress,
specifies in its preamble that "recognition of the inherent
dignity and
of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human
family
is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world."
-You're the homophobic bigot who doesn't think gays should have equal
legal marriage rights [including the title of 'marriage' itself] with
heteros.
• correct. I don't think a 700-yr old definition should be changed to
accomodate what is essentially a special interest group with unusually
sensitive feelings.
You're also the anti-Islamic bigot xenophobe who simply cannot
recognize
that Israel has for decades unjustly abused and oppressed the
Palestinian people as a whole - including issuing them different legal
rights in the Israeli courts.
I used to have respect for you, but you have shown yourself to be
nothing more than an ideological xenophobe and homophobic bigot.
• shades of Duwayne?
Nope. I see shades of ideological xenophobia and homophobic bigotry.
• Gay couples have the right to form unions called domestic
partnerships. Straight couples have the same rights -- but the name of
the union is different.
Generation after generation, people have fought to get rid of the
"....except for"s: except for blacks, except for women, etc.
• the difference is that marriages typically produce human beings.
Today, we challenge the latest prejudice to raise its ugly head and seek
to repudiate the fundamental American dedication to freedom and equality
for all. The idea that there should be God-given life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness "except for gays" is unworthy of our national
character.
If someone thinks homosexuality is immoral, they have a right to believe
that. But they do not have the right to change our fundamental freedoms.
• I do not think homosexuality is immoral, but I do think the 700-yr old
definition of the word 'marriage' should not be changed by a tiny special
interest group.
For many, many people, getting married is one of the most important
things they will ever do in the pursuit of happiness.
• This is clearly a delusion. I've been married for 34-yrs and I can
assure you that it has been a hellish trip through a minefield.
And there is
nothing, absolutely nothing, in the Constitution of the United States
that suggests any group of people has the right to limit another, no
matter how many referendums or propositions they put onto a ballot.
• There is nothing in the Constitution that says that a special interest
group has any right to change the definition of a word.
The U.S. Constitution reigns supreme.
[re: Marianne Williamson - Sexual Orientation and the Pursuit of Happiness]
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
=
You're from a dying off bunch of xenophobic and homophobic bigots,
Measures - plain and simple.
• Listening to two anti-Semites on this Newsgroup rant about bigotry is a
laugher.
For you to suggest that either Duwayne or myself are anti-Semitic is a
clear indication of your willful blindness to the facts we have both
presented.
• Guffaw! Both of you hate "kikes", "yids" on and on.
Quote:
Like Mormons [or any other entrenched ideologues] who have been exposed
for their bigotries, hypocrisies and transparent denials, you resort to
making up insults that have no basis in reality.
• you can fool some of the people some of the time ...
Quote: I can only speak for myself but from what I've seen of Duwayne's
material, he like myself, stands firmly for *EQUAL* rights and *EQUAL*
treatment under international law for *ALL* human beings.
You indeed ARE a bigot.
The fact that you ARE a bigot is plain and obvious in the exclusionary
'except for' positions you have taken against both gays and the
Palestinians. You have excluded each group of human beings from *EQUAL*
rights and *EQUAL* protection under international law.
• Non-hetero domestic partners have the same rights as hetero married
couples -- and neither group has the right to change English word
definitions.
Quote: It's assholes like you who perpetuate divisivenesses and hatred in the
world.
• it's only a definition John.
Quote:
== My statements stand as fact: "You're from a dying off bunch of
xenophobic and homophobic bigots, Measures - plain and simple.
I thought you had a bigger vision than that kind of limited
small-mindedness. You don't. You're a classic bigot."
• ... only because I won't go along with the attempt to change the
definition of the word marriage.
--
R.L. Measures. 805-386-3734, www.somis.org |
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| John Manning... |
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:45 pm |
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•R.L.Measures wrote:
Quote: In article <peydnQrYidXxiGXXnZ2dnUVZ_rFi4p2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <f--dnT53ULMVmWXXnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <w8mdnee2HrBb1mrXnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <h9ednYhRFb6RdWvXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <1r2i9p1zk2uc0.dnpjzccj8xad$.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:47:51 -0200, John Manning wrote:
¡ER.L.Measures wrote:
In article <gfx0caxrbbkp$.13xftf1ak3ugu.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
If you had followed the links in the article John Manning
the fool
posted
but never read he would have found the US claims are confirmed by
Mohammed
El Baradei, the current IAEA head
¡E there are people in this world who are virtually blindeded
by their
anii-Semitism.
Fuck you, Rich.
Wake up John Manning monkey, evolution has left you behind.
• and so much hate he no longer sees straight.
It's hard for me to believe what you just said, Rich.
• you can take it to the bank John.
My position has always been for equal rights and justice for ALL human
beings under the international laws the USA has stood for and
signed onto:
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
Our famous words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness," did not declare that some men
(and women) are without unalienable rights.
Likewise, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, created by the
United Nations in 1948 and signed and ratified by the U.S. Congress,
specifies in its preamble that "recognition of the inherent
dignity and
of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human
family
is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world."
-You're the homophobic bigot who doesn't think gays should have equal
legal marriage rights [including the title of 'marriage' itself] with
heteros.
• correct. I don't think a 700-yr old definition should be changed to
accomodate what is essentially a special interest group with unusually
sensitive feelings.
You're also the anti-Islamic bigot xenophobe who simply cannot
recognize
that Israel has for decades unjustly abused and oppressed the
Palestinian people as a whole - including issuing them different legal
rights in the Israeli courts.
I used to have respect for you, but you have shown yourself to be
nothing more than an ideological xenophobe and homophobic bigot.
• shades of Duwayne?
Nope. I see shades of ideological xenophobia and homophobic bigotry.
• Gay couples have the right to form unions called domestic
partnerships. Straight couples have the same rights -- but the name of
the union is different.
Generation after generation, people have fought to get rid of the
"....except for"s: except for blacks, except for women, etc.
• the difference is that marriages typically produce human beings.
Today, we challenge the latest prejudice to raise its ugly head and seek
to repudiate the fundamental American dedication to freedom and equality
for all. The idea that there should be God-given life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness "except for gays" is unworthy of our national
character.
If someone thinks homosexuality is immoral, they have a right to believe
that. But they do not have the right to change our fundamental freedoms.
• I do not think homosexuality is immoral, but I do think the 700-yr old
definition of the word 'marriage' should not be changed by a tiny special
interest group.
For many, many people, getting married is one of the most important
things they will ever do in the pursuit of happiness.
• This is clearly a delusion. I've been married for 34-yrs and I can
assure you that it has been a hellish trip through a minefield.
And there is
nothing, absolutely nothing, in the Constitution of the United States
that suggests any group of people has the right to limit another, no
matter how many referendums or propositions they put onto a ballot.
• There is nothing in the Constitution that says that a special interest
group has any right to change the definition of a word.
The U.S. Constitution reigns supreme.
[re: Marianne Williamson - Sexual Orientation and the Pursuit of Happiness]
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
=
You're from a dying off bunch of xenophobic and homophobic bigots,
Measures - plain and simple.
• Listening to two anti-Semites on this Newsgroup rant about bigotry is a
laugher.
For you to suggest that either Duwayne or myself are anti-Semitic is a
clear indication of your willful blindness to the facts we have both
presented.
• Guffaw! Both of you hate "kikes", "yids" on and on.
Like Mormons [or any other entrenched ideologues] who have been exposed
for their bigotries, hypocrisies and transparent denials, you resort to
making up insults that have no basis in reality.
• you can fool some of the people some of the time ...
I can only speak for myself but from what I've seen of Duwayne's
material, he like myself, stands firmly for *EQUAL* rights and *EQUAL*
treatment under international law for *ALL* human beings.
You indeed ARE a bigot.
The fact that you ARE a bigot is plain and obvious in the exclusionary
'except for' positions you have taken against both gays and the
Palestinians. You have excluded each group of human beings from *EQUAL*
rights and *EQUAL* protection under international law.
• Non-hetero domestic partners have the same rights as hetero married
couples -- and neither group has the right to change English word
definitions.
It's assholes like you who perpetuate divisivenesses and hatred in the
world.
• it's only a definition John.
== My statements stand as fact: "You're from a dying off bunch of
xenophobic and homophobic bigots, Measures - plain and simple.
I thought you had a bigger vision than that kind of limited
small-mindedness. You don't. You're a classic bigot."
• ... only because I won't go along with the attempt to change the
definition of the word marriage.
You're an anti-Palestinian xenophobic bigot and a homophobic bigot,
Measures, plain and simple. |
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:48 pm |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:33:15 -0800 (PST), Joe Bruno <joebruno at (no spam) usa.com> wrote:
Quote: On Nov 7, 10:50 am, John Manning <jrobe... at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
"Nobody is sitting in Iran today developing nuclear weapons.
Tehran doesn’t have an ongoing nuclear weapons program. But
somehow, everyone in the West is talking about how Iran’s
nuclear program is the greatest threat to the world. In many
ways, I think the threat has been hyped.
Yes, there’s concern and Iran needs to be more transparent
with the IAEA. We still have outstanding questions about some
of the research they’ve conducted, and we still need to verify
that there aren’t undeclared activities taking place inside of
the country.
But the idea that we’ll wake up tomorrow and Iran will have a
nuclear weapon is crazy. We just haven’t seen any indication
of that.”
~Mohammed El Baradei, the current IAEA headhttp://www.newshoggers.com/blog/2009/09/hyperventilating-about-the-ir...
This has nothing to do with Judaism and is therefore off-topic.
Your IP will be informed.
Actually, this one does indirectly, because Iran is a serious threat to Israel's
safety , both from the possibility of nuclear weapons and their supplying of
militant groups with conventional weapons, like the shipment that was
intercepted last week.
Ben |
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In article <iq-dnaPL4IgMEGXXnZ2dnUVZ_txi4p2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
<jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
Quote: •R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <peydnQrYidXxiGXXnZ2dnUVZ_rFi4p2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <f--dnT53ULMVmWXXnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <w8mdnee2HrBb1mrXnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <h9ednYhRFb6RdWvXnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, John
Manning
jrobertm at (no spam) terra.com.br> wrote:
•R.L.Measures wrote:
In article <1r2i9p1zk2uc0.dnpjzccj8xad$.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:47:51 -0200, John Manning wrote:
¡ER.L.Measures wrote:
In article <gfx0caxrbbkp$.13xftf1ak3ugu.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>,
Honest_truth at (no spam) Wisdom.net wrote:
If you had followed the links in the article John Manning
the fool
posted
but never read he would have found the US claims are
confirmed by
Mohammed
El Baradei, the current IAEA head
¡E there are people in this world who are virtually blindeded
by their
anii-Semitism.
Fuck you, Rich.
Wake up John Manning monkey, evolution has left you behind.
• and so much hate he no longer sees straight.
It's hard for me to believe what you just said, Rich.
• you can take it to the bank John.
My position has always been for equal rights and justice for
ALL human
beings under the international laws the USA has stood for and
signed onto:
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
Our famous words, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that
all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty
and the pursuit of Happiness," did not declare that some men
(and women) are without unalienable rights.
Likewise, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, created by the
United Nations in 1948 and signed and ratified by the U.S.
Congress,
specifies in its preamble that "recognition of the inherent
dignity and
of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human
family
is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world."
-You're the homophobic bigot who doesn't think gays should have
equal
legal marriage rights [including the title of 'marriage'
itself] with
heteros.
• correct. I don't think a 700-yr old definition should be
changed to
accomodate what is essentially a special interest group with unusually
sensitive feelings.
You're also the anti-Islamic bigot xenophobe who simply cannot
recognize
that Israel has for decades unjustly abused and oppressed the
Palestinian people as a whole - including issuing them
different legal
rights in the Israeli courts.
I used to have respect for you, but you have shown yourself to be
nothing more than an ideological xenophobe and homophobic bigot.
• shades of Duwayne?
Nope. I see shades of ideological xenophobia and homophobic bigotry.
• Gay couples have the right to form unions called domestic
partnerships. Straight couples have the same rights -- but the name of
the union is different.
Generation after generation, people have fought to get rid of the
"....except for"s: except for blacks, except for women, etc.
• the difference is that marriages typically produce human beings.
Today, we challenge the latest prejudice to raise its ugly head and seek
to repudiate the fundamental American dedication to freedom and equality
for all. The idea that there should be God-given life, liberty and the
pursuit of happiness "except for gays" is unworthy of our national
character.
If someone thinks homosexuality is immoral, they have a right to believe
that. But they do not have the right to change our fundamental freedoms.
• I do not think homosexuality is immoral, but I do think the 700-yr old
definition of the word 'marriage' should not be changed by a tiny special
interest group.
For many, many people, getting married is one of the most important
things they will ever do in the pursuit of happiness.
• This is clearly a delusion. I've been married for 34-yrs and I can
assure you that it has been a hellish trip through a minefield.
And there is
nothing, absolutely nothing, in the Constitution of the United States
that suggests any group of people has the right to limit another, no
matter how many referendums or propositions they put onto a ballot.
• There is nothing in the Constitution that says that a special interest
group has any right to change the definition of a word.
The U.S. Constitution reigns supreme.
[re: Marianne Williamson - Sexual Orientation and the Pursuit of
Happiness]
Human Rights belong to people collectively. To believe in rights
for some and not others is a denial of the humanness of people
worldwide.
=
You're from a dying off bunch of xenophobic and homophobic bigots,
Measures - plain and simple.
• Listening to two anti-Semites on this Newsgroup rant about bigotry is a
laugher.
For you to suggest that either Duwayne or myself are anti-Semitic is a
clear indication of your willful blindness to the facts we have both
presented.
• Guffaw! Both of you hate "kikes", "yids" on and on.
Like Mormons [or any other entrenched ideologues] who have been exposed
for their bigotries, hypocrisies and transparent denials, you resort to
making up insults that have no basis in reality.
• you can fool some of the people some of the time ...
I can only speak for myself but from what I've seen of Duwayne's
material, he like myself, stands firmly for *EQUAL* rights and *EQUAL*
treatment under international law for *ALL* human beings.
You indeed ARE a bigot.
The fact that you ARE a bigot is plain and obvious in the exclusionary
'except for' positions you have taken against both gays and the
Palestinians. You have excluded each group of human beings from *EQUAL*
rights and *EQUAL* protection under international law.
• Non-hetero domestic partners have the same rights as hetero married
couples -- and neither group has the right to change English word
definitions.
It's assholes like you who perpetuate divisivenesses and hatred in the
world.
• it's only a definition John.
== My statements stand as fact: "You're from a dying off bunch of
xenophobic and homophobic bigots, Measures - plain and simple.
I thought you had a bigger vision than that kind of limited
small-mindedness. You don't. You're a classic bigot."
• ... only because I won't go along with the attempt to change the
definition of the word marriage.
You're an anti-Palestinian xenophobic bigot and a homophobic bigot,
Measures, plain and simple.
• _____
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