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| Sword of Laban... |
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Hasan Was ‘Mortified’ About Deployment to War
By JAMES DAO
The New York Times
Published: November 5, 2009
WASHINGTON — Born and reared in Virginia, the son of immigrant parents
from a small town near Jerusalem, he joined the Army right out of high
school, against his parents’ wishes. The Army, in turn, put him
through college and then medical school, where he trained to be a
psychiatrist.
But Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the 39-year-old man accused of Thursday’s
mass shooting at Fort Hood, Tex., started having second thoughts about
his military career a few years ago after other soldiers harassed him
for being a Muslim, he told relatives in Virginia.
He had also more recently expressed deep concerns about being sent to
Iraq or Afghanistan. Having counseled scores of returning soldiers
with post-traumatic stress disorder, first at Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Washington and more recently at Fort Hood, he knew all too
well the terrifying realities of war, said a cousin, Nader Hasan.
“He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy,” Mr. Hasan said.
“He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over
there.”
Major Hasan was taken into custody by the Fort Hood police after the
shooting spree, in which 11 people, many of them soldiers, were
killed, and at least 31 others were wounded. The shootings occurred at
a readiness center where soldiers are put through a series of medical,
dental, legal and other paces in preparation for being deployed.
Though Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas reported that Major Hasan
was to be deployed later this month, that could not be confirmed with
the Army Thursday night.
Nader Hasan said his cousin never mentioned in recent phone calls to
Virginia that he was going to be deployed, and he said the family was
shocked when it heard the news on television Thursday afternoon.
“He was doing everything he could to avoid that,” Mr. Hasan said. “He
wanted to do whatever he could within the rules to make sure he
wouldn’t go over.”
Several years ago, that included retaining a lawyer and making
inquiries about whether he could get out of the Army before his
contract was up, because of the harassment he had received as a
Muslim. But Nader Hasan said the lawyer had told his cousin that even
if he paid the Army back for his education, it would not allow him to
leave before his commitment was up.
“I think he gave up that fight and was just doing his time,” Mr. Hasan
said.
Nader Hasan said his cousin’s parents had both been American citizens
who owned businesses, including restaurants and a store, in Roanoke,
Va. He declined to confirm reports that they were Jordanian, but said
the parents, who are both dead, had immigrated from a small town near
Jerusalem many years ago.
Records show that Major Hasan had received his undergraduate degree at
Virginia Tech University and his medical degree at the Uniformed
Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md.
He did his residency at Walter Reed Medical Center and then worked
there for several years before being transferred to the Darnell Army
Medical Center at Fort Hood earlier this year.
Major Hasan was not married and had two brothers, one living in
Virginia and another in Jerusalem, his cousin said. The family, by and
large, had prospered in the United States, with various members
working in law, banking and medicine, Mr. Hasan said.
The Associated Press, quoted federal law enforcement officials saying
Major Hasan had come to their attention at least six months ago
because of Internet postings that mentioned suicide bombings and other
threats.
But Nader Hasan, 40, a lawyer living in Northern Virginia, described
his cousin as a respectful, hard-working man who had devoted himself
to his parents and his career.
He said his cousin had been a practicing Muslim who had become more
devout after the deaths of his parents, in 1998 and 2001. But he said
he had not expressed anti-American views or radical ideas.
“His parents didn’t want him to go into the military,” Mr. Hasan said..
“He said, ‘No, I was born and raised here, I’m going to do my duty to
the country.’ ”
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| Lucky Velotres... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:45 am |
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This shows that religion has a subconscious influence on people they
cannot readily admit.
WHich is why the islamosoviet Otter Ducks faith cannot be allowed in
America any more. |
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| ~AGG~... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:19 pm |
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***Thank goodness Sen. Lieberman will initiate an investigation into this
guy. The Army says the shooter "just snapped." Yeah, right. It's obvious the
Palestinian had become a jihadist!
"Lucky Velotres" <lakisvelotris at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:90948060-f6c2-44c9-af74-3d88277c908f at (no spam) g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
Quote: This shows that religion has a subconscious influence on people they
cannot readily admit.
WHich is why the islamosoviet Otter Ducks faith cannot be allowed in
America any more. |
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| Alexander Arnakis... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:10 pm |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:19:11 -0500, "~AGG~" <French
Polynesia at (no spam) Pacific-Rim.tf> wrote:
Quote: ***Thank goodness Sen. Lieberman will initiate an investigation into this
guy. The Army says the shooter "just snapped." Yeah, right. It's obvious the
Palestinian had become a jihadist!
He *requested* to be discharged, and he made no secret of (a) his
extreme Moslem devotion and (b) his opposition to the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan. The Army refused to discharge him because it wanted to
get back its investment in his medical education. This is being penny
wise and pound foolish, and I suspect the policy is about to change. |
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| Stephen Adams... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:52 pm |
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Alexander Arnakis <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> writes:
Quote: On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:19:11 -0500, "~AGG~" <French
Polynesia at (no spam) Pacific-Rim.tf> wrote:
***Thank goodness Sen. Lieberman will initiate an investigation into this
guy. The Army says the shooter "just snapped." Yeah, right. It's obvious the
Palestinian had become a jihadist!
He *requested* to be discharged, and he made no secret of (a) his
extreme Moslem devotion and (b) his opposition to the wars in Iraq and
Afghanistan. The Army refused to discharge him because it wanted to
get back its investment in his medical education. This is being penny
wise and pound foolish, and I suspect the policy is about to change.
As an officer, he could resign his commission. But I suspect he asked
for a discharge without having to pay back the free education. So, if
he REALLY wanted out, he could get out.
I agree, though, he should have been allowed to resign the commission
and the government should have given him a deal on the repayment...
-Stephen
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Stephen Adams
crathvagbcvn at (no spam) tznvy.pbz (rot13) |
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| Alexander Arnakis... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:42 pm |
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On 8 Nov 2009 23:52:03 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst at (no spam) no.spam> wrote:
Quote:
As an officer, he could resign his commission. But I suspect he asked
for a discharge without having to pay back the free education. So, if
he REALLY wanted out, he could get out.
I agree, though, he should have been allowed to resign the commission
and the government should have given him a deal on the repayment...
I've seen press reports that he *did* offer to repay the cost of the
education.
When somebody applies for such an education, he undertakes a service
commitment for x number of years. It's true that nobody can be forced
to be an officer. But, he might have been forced to serve out the rest
of his time as an enlisted man. |
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| Stephen Adams... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:16 pm |
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Alexander Arnakis <invalid at (no spam) invalid.invalid> writes:
Quote: On 8 Nov 2009 23:52:03 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst at (no spam) no.spam> wrote:
As an officer, he could resign his commission. But I suspect he asked
for a discharge without having to pay back the free education. So, if
he REALLY wanted out, he could get out.
I agree, though, he should have been allowed to resign the commission
and the government should have given him a deal on the repayment...
I've seen press reports that he *did* offer to repay the cost of the
education.
I'd like to see that backed up. If he did, then the military was
seriously negligent.
Quote: When somebody applies for such an education, he undertakes a service
commitment for x number of years. It's true that nobody can be forced
to be an officer. But, he might have been forced to serve out the rest
of his time as an enlisted man.
Possibly - but I would be willing to bet this is VERY rare. They would
most likely AdSep him and be done with it if he really did offer to
repay the funds...
-Stephen
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| aggreen... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:14 pm |
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***It was reported today that the shooter carried business cards on which
was printed the slogan, "Soldier of Allah." I think every Muslim in the
military is suspect.
"Lucky Velotres" <lakisvelotris at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:90948060-f6c2-44c9-af74-3d88277c908f at (no spam) g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
Quote: This shows that religion has a subconscious influence on people they
cannot readily admit.
WHich is why the islamosoviet Otter Ducks faith cannot be allowed in
America any more. |
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