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The Chief Instigator...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:49 pm
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:18:19 -0700 (PDT), Osprey <Osprey65 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 27, 7:03?pm, Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 27, 1:13?pm, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 27, 11:35?am, martin <use... at (no spam) etiqa.co.uk> wrote:

Osprey wrote:
Any way, I know how you argue and you will take this to an extreme of
stupidity. ?So I'll end it now. ?If you are a homosexual, who cares.
Do your thing, or what ever it is you do.

I take it from that you have no objections to gays getting married them?

I'm a happily married man. I will have to answer to God for my
decisions, not yours.

Why is it that you can't simply answer the question, straight forward
and honestly?

What's not straight forward and honest about my answer?

I answered it, as straight and as honest as I can. If you can't
handle my opinion, don't ask me. It's as simple as that.

Maybe you should live up to your own shoddy standards, in this case. I
could marry the non-related consenting adult of my choice, because I (and
here) are Kinsey 0 heterosexuals. Homosexuals are denied that in 46 of the
50 states. Equal rights in four states, and the other 46 get to have it
their way? That was already wrecked by Loving v. Virginia three-eighths of
a century ago.

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick at (no spam) io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Hamilton 3 (SO, October 27)
NEXT GAME: Thursday, October 29 at Grand Rapids, 6:05
 
Jimbo...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:32 pm
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On Oct 29, 9:43 pm, Enos Penvy <enospe... at (no spam) null.net> wrote:
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On Oct 29, 7:19 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Oct 29, 4:16 pm, Enos Penvy <enospe... at (no spam) null.net> wrote:

On Oct 29, 2:52 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 29, 12:57 pm, rfisc... at (no spam) sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

Osprey  <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 11:26 am, Nick B <nickb... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
AZ Nomad wrote:
Where did you get the inane notion that not engaging in an activity is
the same as opposing it?

Homosexuality is not a choice.  Think about it.  Why would someone
CHOOSE to be a homosexual in a world that is so unfriendly to them?  And
WHY does homosexuality exist in every culture on every continent, if it
isn't something that can only be genetic?  Perhaps this is nature's way
of controlling the population, did you ever think about that?

All the hateful people out there just want to feel superior over their
fellow man/woman through the use of laws that punish the innocent.
Nothing more.-

I know of cases where it is a choice.

No you don't.

I'm not saying that for all
homosexauls, but I do know cases where people chose to have homosexual
relationships and then later had heterosexual relationships.

That makes one bisexual.

--
Ray Fischer        
rfisc... at (no spam) sonic.net  - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's odd that one has to almost constantly remind people that
bisexuals exist.

Most people are at least at times "functionally" bisexual.  Having sex
with members of both sexes doesn't necessarily mean that one is
*attracted* to both sexes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I agree to a small degree. Outside of certain niche circumstances of
"institutional sexuality" or "situational sexuality" (Whatever the big
brains are calling it this year) where a person is forced into
situations the opposite sex (or same sex if they are exclusively
homosexual) are not available, I wouldn't think that too many people
are having sex with people that they are not physically attacted, but
I do understand your point.

There have been many homosexuals married to (and having sex with)
members of the opposite sex (I've met lots of gay men with kids they
had from opposite-sex relationships before they came out), and younger
people (say, still in high school or even college) tend to date and
have sex with members of the opposite sex.  I'm gay, but I've had sex
with females when I was younger.  It might be "situational" in that
society expects certain things of us, and young people tend to conform
to certain social pressures.  But it's quite common.

Agreed, but with a greater acceptance, is it as common as it was?

Quote:

Those who are religious, also, will tend to conform as much as
possible.- Hide quoted text -


True.
 
Enos Penvy...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:39 pm
Guest
On Oct 29, 10:32 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 29, 9:43 pm, Enos Penvy <enospe... at (no spam) null.net> wrote:





On Oct 29, 7:19 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 29, 4:16 pm, Enos Penvy <enospe... at (no spam) null.net> wrote:

On Oct 29, 2:52 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 29, 12:57 pm, rfisc... at (no spam) sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

Osprey  <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 11:26 am, Nick B <nickb... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
AZ Nomad wrote:
Where did you get the inane notion that not engaging in an activity is
the same as opposing it?

Homosexuality is not a choice.  Think about it.  Why would someone
CHOOSE to be a homosexual in a world that is so unfriendly to them?  And
WHY does homosexuality exist in every culture on every continent, if it
isn't something that can only be genetic?  Perhaps this is nature's way
of controlling the population, did you ever think about that?

All the hateful people out there just want to feel superior over their
fellow man/woman through the use of laws that punish the innocent.
Nothing more.-

I know of cases where it is a choice.

No you don't.

I'm not saying that for all
homosexauls, but I do know cases where people chose to have homosexual
relationships and then later had heterosexual relationships.

That makes one bisexual.

--
Ray Fischer        
rfisc... at (no spam) sonic.net  - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's odd that one has to almost constantly remind people that
bisexuals exist.

Most people are at least at times "functionally" bisexual.  Having sex
with members of both sexes doesn't necessarily mean that one is
*attracted* to both sexes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I agree to a small degree. Outside of certain niche circumstances of
"institutional sexuality" or "situational sexuality" (Whatever the big
brains are calling it this year) where a person is forced into
situations the opposite sex (or same sex if they are exclusively
homosexual) are not available, I wouldn't think that too many people
are having sex with people that they are not physically attacted, but
I do understand your point.

There have been many homosexuals married to (and having sex with)
members of the opposite sex (I've met lots of gay men with kids they
had from opposite-sex relationships before they came out), and younger
people (say, still in high school or even college) tend to date and
have sex with members of the opposite sex.  I'm gay, but I've had sex
with females when I was younger.  It might be "situational" in that
society expects certain things of us, and young people tend to conform
to certain social pressures.  But it's quite common.

Agreed, but with a greater acceptance, is it as common as it was?

Let's hope not.
 
Ray Fischer...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:11 pm
Guest
Osprey <Osprey65 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 29, 12:57 pm, rfisc... at (no spam) sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey  <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 11:26 am, Nick B <nickb... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

Homosexuality is not a choice.  Think about it.  Why would someone
CHOOSE to be a homosexual in a world that is so unfriendly to them?  And
WHY does homosexuality exist in every culture on every continent, if it
isn't something that can only be genetic?  Perhaps this is nature's way
of controlling the population, did you ever think about that?

All the hateful people out there just want to feel superior over their
fellow man/woman through the use of laws that punish the innocent.
Nothing more.-

I know of cases where it is a choice.

No you don't.

I most certainly do,

You're just an undereducated bigot. Things are not true merely
because you want to believe them.

Quote:
I'm not saying that for all
homosexauls, but I do know cases where people chose to have homosexual
relationships and then later had heterosexual relationships.

That makes one bisexual.

When one man and another man is engaged in sexual activity, are they
homosexual?

And there is the proof that you're just a stupid dumbshit sinxce you
don't even know the different between being homosexual and doing a
homosexual act.

--
Ray Fischer
rfischer at (no spam) sonic.net
 
 
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