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| J... |
 Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:21 pm |
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All this law is doing is allowing the mother-to-be to fully contemplate what
it is she is doing. Once the life inside her is killed, there will be no
turning back.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/56026
New Oklahoma Abortion Laws Requires Women to Get Ultrasound, Answer
Questions about Race, Relationships
Friday, October 23, 2009
By Sean Murphy
Oklahoma City - Two new laws being challenged in the Oklahoma courts would
give the state some of the strictest abortion laws in the country by forcing
women to answer questions about race and their relationships, and to listen
to a doctor talk them through an ultrasound.
Legal challenges to the laws are in their early stages, but observers say
the tragectory of cases could mirror that of the partial-birth abortion
debate, which went through Nebraska courts and was struck down by the U.S.
Supreme Court before Congress made it a federal law that was upheld in 2007.
"That's an apt comparison," said Joseph Thai, a professor at the University
of Oklahoma who specializes in constitutional law and the Supreme Court.
"So, expect these Oklahoma laws and the ensuing court decisions to be the
first rather than last word on how far a state may go with respect to
compulsory procedures and reporting requirements."
Opponents of the laws say they were drafted to make a woman's already
difficult decision to have an abortion even more difficult.
"Nobody undertakes this kind of decision lightly to begin with," said Anita
Fream, CEO of Planned Parenthood of Central Oklahoma. "To turn around and,
once you've made this decision, find out the legislators have imposed these
additional restrictions, it's really quite problematic. It often makes a
difficult decision even more painful."
One law would require women to fill out a lengthy survey that asks, among
other things, about their race, education and reason for seeking an
abortion. It asks women whether they're having relationship problems,
whether they can't afford to raise a child or whether having a baby would
dramatically change their lives.
Another section requires doctors to provide detailed information about
complications that arise as a result of the procedure. The Health Department
ultimately would compile the information into a statistical report and post
it on its Web site
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J Young
Jvisions at (no spam) live.com |
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| Syd M.... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:21 pm |
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On Oct 24, 11:21 pm, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: All this law is doing is allowing the mother-to-be to fully contemplate what
it is she is doing.
No.
All it is doing is wasting money on a irrelevant procedure that will
not change anyone minds but lets the moral fascists feel good about
it.
Why do you hate women, Junkie Young?
PDW |
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| Mitchell Holman... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:41 pm |
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"Syd M." <pdwright42 at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in
news:daaa55a0-66ee-43d2-960a-5b31a8913b14 at (no spam) p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
Quote: On Oct 24, 11:21 pm, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
All this law is doing is allowing the mother-to-be to fully
contemplate w
hat
it is she is doing.
No.
All it is doing is wasting money on a irrelevant procedure that will
not change anyone minds but lets the moral fascists feel good about
it.
Why do you hate women, Junkie Young?
PDW
People joining churches should be subjected to the
same sort of mental exams these types want to impose
on pregnant teenagers. |
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| Uncle Vic... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:43 pm |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, gazelle at (no spam) shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack)
wrote:
Quote: In article <Xns9CAEE408C1820vicman at (no spam) 216.196.97.131>,
Uncle Vic <address at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
All this law is doing is allowing the mother-to-be to fully
contemplate what it is she is doing. Once the life inside her is
killed, there will be no turning back.
Right, only moving forward.
Good line. Well put.
Thank you! The decision to abort is not a pleasant one, but if you give
these doctor-killing pro-life morons an inch, they'll take a mile. Like
with religion, the goal is control. That's always a bad thing.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs. |
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| Ray Fischer... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:06 pm |
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Sanders Kaufman <bucky at (no spam) kaufman.net> wrote:
Quote: "Uncle Vic" <address at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CAFD2DD45829vicman at (no spam) 216.196.97.131...
Thank you! The decision to abort is not a pleasant one, but if you give
these doctor-killing pro-life morons an inch, they'll take a mile.
There's nothing to indicate that's true, and much to show it's not true.
Like extremists who try to ban not only ALL abortions but also all
contraception and even vaccines which protect people from STDs?
Quote: Indeed, we give these doctors a LOT of discretion in how they do their jobs,
and they almost never cross the line.
Read it again.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer at (no spam) sonic.net |
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| Sanders Kaufman... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:56 pm |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer at (no spam) sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4ae663c7$0$1600$742ec2ed at (no spam) news.sonic.net...
Quote: Sanders Kaufman <bucky at (no spam) kaufman.net> wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote in message
There's nothing to indicate that's true, and much to show it's not true.
Like extremists who try to ban not only ALL abortions but also all
contraception and even vaccines which protect people from STDs?
Indeed, we give these doctors a LOT of discretion in how they do their
jobs,
and they almost never cross the line.
Read it again.
Oh, I totally miffed that one.
Never mind. |
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