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Ted L...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:52 pm
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There is a debt we owe God for the shed blood He drew from his only begotten
Son Jesus, and we will all lose our lives over it. Either love your life
and lose
it to the wages of sin, or lose your life walking the path of righteousness
for Christ's namesake, that you may find it. Were it not for a work of God
marvelous in our eyes, the hope in the glory of God would not have been made
possible--yet, Sinner,
there remains a decision for you to make: you must receive or reject God's
profound gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. The following
link shows God's word as a light shining in the darkness--that the way of
salvation comes through a restored relationship with God rather than through
following the rules of God. Jesus Saves. <°FTL120><
http://www.fellowshiptractleague.org/tract_html/english/120_1.html

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is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day
approaching."
Hebrews 10:25
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guardian Snow...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:52 pm
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On Oct 16, 1:52 pm, "Ted L" <spamtaddl... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Let's examine the double speak in this post:

Quote:
There is a debt we owe God for the shed blood He drew from his only begotten
Son Jesus, and we will all lose our lives over it.  Either love your life
and lose
it to the wages of sin, or lose your life walking the path of righteousness
for Christ's namesake, that you may find it.  Were it not for a work of God
marvelous in our eyes, the hope in the glory of God would not have been made
possible--yet, Sinner,
there remains a decision for you to make: you must receive or reject God's
profound gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.  The following
link shows God's word as a light shining in the darkness--that the way of
salvation comes through a restored relationship with God rather than through
following the rules of God.  Jesus Saves.

Jesus saves.. but not from death? Did he not teach that if you
believe, ye shall never taste death?

Joh 8:52 The Yehuḏim said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon!
Aḇraham died, and the prophets. And You say, ‘If anyone guards My
Word he shall never taste death at all.’

I thought Jesus taught forgiveness of sins..

Mat 26:28 “For this is My blood, that of the renewed covenant, which
is shed for many for the forgiveness of sins.

if your sins are forgiven, how is it that you still lead the life of
"sin onto death"? It seems your dogma doesn't actually believe you
ARE forgiven. If the price is already paid, how come you still owe
your life?

I've purposed to shock some people on the topic of change.

“Change, You can change†are the lyrics from one of my favorite Tears
for Fears song from the 80’s. When I consider the teachings of
scriptures, it’s all about us changing. Paul said:

2Co 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Messiah, he is a renewed creature
– the old matters have passed away, see, all matters have become
renewed!

“A renewed creature†in that everybody is capable of change for the
better or worse. Change will happen and so it’s not whether or not
things will change but rather if we are to direct the course of that
change in the spirit of Yehoshua Messiah or if we will simply allow
change to overtake us.

Weeds will grow and wishing them away doesn’t make for positive
change, we must follow our beliefs by action, which is another way of
saying, “worksâ€. What this means is that James can be translated:

Jas 2:17 So also belief, if it does not have ACTION, is in itself
dead.

We must act upon our beliefs and as we put forward, for good or evil,
so we create according to what we contemplate.

Tony Robbins says, “The truth is that we can learn to condition our
minds, bodies, and emotions to link pain or pleasure to whatever we
choose. By changing what we link pain and pleasure to, we will
instantly change our behaviors.â€

Rom 6:16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves servants
for obedience, you are servants of the one whom you obey, whether of
sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?

What do we link our behavior to? Paul speaks of two paths, “sin to
death†or “obedience to righteousness†and so we have established
links in our thought patterns that transgression of Torah is death and
we are saved only by the spirit of that which is greater than us, the
spirit of oneness, YAHWEH.

Joh 10:30 “I and My Father are one.â€

In this one spirit, all that we think we become whether it be that we
create good or evil by the spirit that resides in us and so if we
continue to think of ourselves as unrighteous beings, we become the
very essence of that. It is for this reason that the Messiah taught
us to speak of righteousness. That which is in your heart is what you
manifest into being.

Mat 12:35 “The good man brings forth what is good from the good
treasures of his heart, and the wicked man brings forth what is wicked
from the wicked treasure.

The scriptures teach us of the power of contemplation and most people
confuse this as some “new age†understanding out of fear. Focused
completely on the outward flesh of Jesus, my Christian brothers have
not looked inside to the spirit of goodness that resides in all people
because they are clouded with judgment.

Held spellbound by the power of suggestion, the world believes in its
own lack of capacity for righteous behavior being made to sin by
following faulty dogma. They do not believe in their own ability to
become that “new creature†that Paul spoke of.

Isa 29:20 For the ruthless one is brought to naught, the scorner is
consumed, and all who watch for evil shall be cut off,
Isa 29:21 those who make a man to sin in word, and lay a snare for him
who reproves in the gate, and turn aside the righteous with empty
reasoning.

How many people run around begging for a change, change for the love
of everyone, that will make everything alright? Change is all the get
because without vision, the people perish.

Pro 29:18 Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that
keepeth the law, happy is he.

The prophet must have vision for his word to be fulfilled in the
people and in this we see the power of manifestation of Yahweh. Vision
must be implanted by the spirit of truth but one must understand the
nature of Yahweh:

Isa 45:7 forming light and creating darkness, making peace and
creating evil. I, Yahweh, do all these.’

That which we fixate on is manifested by the spirit, the true prophet
of Yahweh then MUST focus on repairing the breach and causing the
cessation of sin in our fellow man and to teach PERFECTION for the
spirit is not given out in measure and it’s power knows NO Limits. Do
you think in terms of limitations? Then you have failed to connect to
the true spirit of the Almighty. If you believe you are unrighteous,
then you are and by your own word, you have condemned your own being.

Mat 12:37 “For by your words you shall be declared righteous, and by
your words you shall be declared unrighteous.â€

You must begin to understand that only in Yahweh is one righteous and
he comes to you because you are worthy of being connected to that
infinite power. Fixated on something negative and you will manifest
that which you have fixated on. Put poverty, war and strife you of
your mind and let go of all the excuses you have held onto for so long
now… Understanding Torah means that we have come to know what our
Father in heaven desires of us and so the Torah is PERFECT in
manifesting the will of the spirit that is KNOWLEDGE of ELOHIM.

Hos 6:6 “For I delight in kindness and not slaughtering, and in the
knowledge of Elohim more than burnt offerings.

Knowledge of Elohim is the key of manifestation and so all those who
sit back and call the Torah a curse have not understood the true power
of that knowledge which is the very keys to the Universal law of
creation.

Mat 17:20 And Yehoshua said to them, “Because of your unbelief, for
truly, I say to you, if you have belief as a mustard seed, you shall
say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it shall move.
And no matter shall be impossible for you.

NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE and if you believe otherwise, you have not
believed the Messiah and have not awakened to the reality that dogma
will comprehend the word and it will be as if you have a spirit of
sleep poured out…

Isa 29:11 And the entire vision is to you like the words of a book
that is sealed, which men give to one who knows books, saying, “Read
this, please.†And he said, “I am unable, for it is sealed.â€

At this moment, your eyes are opened and now you are able to read for
now the vision is open to you when you know that all things are
possible in Yahweh.

Quote:
If one changes the belief, they can change
the behaviour that is the result of that.

So if a left-handed person believes they are right-handed, they will be?

Absolutely! All behavior is learned and practiced. Psychology has
shown that all behavior can be changed in an instant based on the
beliefs of the individual. Change the beliefs and you can change the
resulting behavior.

This can be demonstrated in a state of hypnosis where left handed
individuals can be commanded that they are now right handed and always
have been... they will naturally behave according to what they believe
and in this we see the power of suggestion at work on the individual.

A person that believes they are unrighteous will continue to be
unrighteous and a person who believes it is unacceptable to sin will
continue to behave in a manner that is according to the system of
beliefs inherit in the mind by conditioning and training of thoughts.

"Our goodness comes solely from thinking on goodness; our wickedness
from thinking on wickedness. We too are the victims of our own
contemplation."
John Jay Chapman

Quote:
We can change:)

Research suggests most people actually *cannot* change their orientation.
Tim.

As according to your belief system and yet scriptures teach me,
"nothing is impossible".

"What we plant in the soil of contemplation, we shall reap in the
harvest of action."
Meister Eckhart

Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.†’

Shalom,
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(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)

“Begin to see yourself as a soul with a body rather than a body with a
soul.â€
Wayne Dyer

Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [translated
Yahweh] your Elohim to naught, for Yahweh does not leave the one
unpunished who brings His Name to naught.

Respond directly:
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/

http://www.isr-messianic.org/ <- download scriptures free
http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/RNKJV.zip
Restored Names King James for E-sword
 
Anonymous...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:52 pm
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, "Ted L" <spamtaddler1 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
There is a debt we owe

You got that part right.




The Juwes are
the men that
Will not
be Blamed
for nothing
-W.W. Gull
 
Silver Lead...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:25 pm
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Rod...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:33 pm
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Silver Lead wrote:
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Usenet Racist FILTH Posters (nics attached below)
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INTRODUCTION
This newsgroup news:alt.anonymous.messages is the
home for 'ripened' old (over the hill) Usenet racist filth posters.
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The old fart residents include posting with the silly and
worn out nics of Nomen Nescio & George Orwell.
=========================================
T O M B S T O N E

George Orwell (aka etc.)

racist Usenet FILTH poster
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George Orwell (aka etc.),
Please post the following for your Usenet tombstone:
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on and retrievable from the Google archive.
(see below).

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Thank you. I had no idea that he was worse than the ordinary kook..
again..my thanks..
 
Ti Malice...
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:54 pm
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guardian Snow wrote:

Quote:
The scriptures of the Hebrew prophets teach us....

The Hebrew prophets were all liars. These were bronze-age shepherds who
never had a bath in their lives, and were even primitive by contemporary
status. AKA sheepfuckers. Why bother to mention in Leviticus what was
not already common practice?

A stupid and false religion, now featuring a government (Israel) to
promulgate it.

The torah is yet another book of lies. Genesis offers two creation
myths, both wrong. There was no creation. There was no garden of Eden.
There was no flood and no ark, all lies and more lies.

The Torah is good for one thing though: toilet paper.

Defecating in the beard of Ha-Shem,

~ Ti Malice ~
God is fake. Bere'shith barah ha-ish eth Elohim. Ve ro' ha-ish eth
elohim ki-kharah!
 
Barry OGrady...
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:33 pm
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:52:11 GMT, "Ted L" <spamtaddler1 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
There is a debt we owe God for the shed blood He drew from his only begotten
Son Jesus, and we will all lose our lives over it.

Don't forget the debt you owe me for the shed blood I drew from my
only son.

Quote:
Either love your life and lose it to the wages of sin, or lose your life walking
the path of righteousness for Christ's namesake, that you may find it.

If you don't care for yourself you can't help anybody else.

Quote:
Were it not for a work of God marvelous in our eyes, the hope in the glory of
God would not have been made possible

Indeed, if God had not downgraded us all at the fall he would not be needed.

Quote:
--yet, Sinner,
there remains a decision for you to make: you must receive or reject God's
profound gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Have you accepted God's gift of suffering and death?

Quote:
The following
link shows God's word as a light shining in the darkness--that the way of
salvation comes through a restored relationship with God rather than through
following the rules of God.

Nobody can follow the rules of God.

Barry
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Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
 
 
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