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| Thore Schmechtig |
 Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:21 am |
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Quote: As wicca != satanism the contradiction is painfully obvious.
I'll explain it again, for an obviously illiterate wicca demoniac.
Contrary to you I'm very able to read and write. Well, strictly
speaking you suffer from SELECTIVE illiteracy - can't read anything
that contradicts his beloved paranoid bigotry.
Quote: and anyone but a demoniac wiccan would have NOT denied my words, but
would have asked me to clarify. I DID say ALL that in a previous post.
And we all know, not just since yesterday, that you tell lies whenever
you open your mouth. Hence, no need to clarify anything.
Quote: Which really means "I can't prove that my babble is true, so I have to
turn to insults".
See my comment above, demoniac witch.
Thank you for proving my point again.
Quote: Tough luck fundie boy. Doesn't work outside of your wonderful world of
chicken tracts.
If Jack Chic didn't bother you much, why do you witch demoniacs attack
him so viciously? Seems your weapons would be better aimed at serious
attacks, unless you DO consider him a serious threat.
Ts ts ts... he who invites mockery gets mockery. Should be simple
enough even for an anencephalos like you.
Quote: The concept of the horned god is much older than the
christian defamation of his persona.
So you DO believe in "the horned god." (Satan)
Not that this is a non sequitur... ;)
Quote: And that's the last insult I'll tolerate from you. I happen to be VERY
proud of my fundamentalist background. My scholars were the "Who's
Who" of 20th C theology.
fundyism != theology (fortunately)
Quote: Okay fundie boy, present proof for xianity being the oldest religion.
No reply from you... now if that isn't a telltale sign of your defeat.
;)
Quote: You ARE a Satan worshipper!
If it can be proven so easily, do so.
Again, admission (that I'm right) by omission.
I'll spare the reasonable readers the rest of the bullcrap... they know
what to think about it anyway ;)
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TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian. |
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| Dave Oldridge |
| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:20 am |
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jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7d1u30hl7p26hvja94hhuj2q4vnkehfsls@4ax.com:
Quote: x-no-archive:yes
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:17:51 GMT, Dave Oldridge
doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes) wrote in news:403d8888.235186062
@news.saix.net:
On 25 Feb 2004 20:34:11 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com
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The foolish approach is to say, "You're crazy! That's no demonic!"
The SAFE, CAUTIOUS thing to do is to assume if it looks demonic to
believe it IS, and respond accordingly.
Perhaps exorcising the White House will affect the US election
result.
Heh heh. I remember back in the 60's a bunch of hippies tried to
exorcise the Pentagon. They got repelled and a sort of riot ensued
with many busted heads and some people carted off to jail.
Being a DC native, I seem to vaguely recall that event. I may have
been in the area if this was pre-1967.
Some time later, though, a bunch
of Quakers did exorcise it.
I do NOT recall that event.
That's because it was quiet, solemn and a REAL prayer vigil. Not
sensational enough for the 6 o'clock news.
Quote: At any rate, REAL exorcisms can't hurt. It's the phony ones, such as
many that take place in the deep South (the "redneck Pentecostals, the
snake handlers, the poison drinkers) that get people hurt.
True. And what people don't often know is that exorcism is an integral
part of the traditional rites of the Church. A piece of ground or
building being prepared for a new church is routinely exorcised before
consecrating it. Even the water and salt used to make holy water are
exorcised before blessing them.
Quote: IOW, if a person indeed is possessed, once the "exorcist" (one who
understands his /the Holy Spirit's power over Satan) arrives, the
demon(s) is/are not allowed to hurt the possessed person. And the Holy
Spirit and the Christian who is indwelt can safely remove the demon(s)
so that no one is hurt, including the possessed.
Individual possessions are rare, though not unknown. As I said earlier,
the really nasty ones inhabit whole nations, not individual souls. They
are far more subtle and can sometimes be focused THROUGH a possessed
individual (I believe that is what happened in Germany in the 1930's and
40's--it has all the stigmata), but the destruction of lives and of souls
can be far more widespread.
It is the false gods who do the worst damage. And there are two of them
who are more ubiquitous than the others:
There is Moloch, that old enemy sometimes characterized as a king (hence
the name) but who feeds on fear of the unknown. He demands the sacrifice
of children and even of adults and usually those of other nations or
tribes than the one he is infecting. And he can appear as an "angel of
light" when it suits him.
The other is Mammon...the spirit of greed who seems to be chronic with
mankind. He, too is subtle, and will happily induce people to preach
false doctrines purely for the money. In democratic nations, he seizes
the hearts of politicians causing them to pander to prejudice for the
contributions and votes that keep them in power. These were always
Satan's chief lieutenants and nothing has changed in that respect since
Jesus was crucified.
But what stops them cold in their tracks is following Jesus' teachings
and passing on the good news that He is risen! Not fighting imaginary
crusades against those whose politics differ from your own (the day they
make differing politics illegal in America is the day the nation dies);
not fighting crusades against science imagined to be incorrect; not
putting down anyone really, but rather raising up Christ.
And if you want my honest opinion about the "end times," I honestly don't
believe He's coming back until at least a good number of disciples exist
in churches that won't just try to crucify Him all over again, simply for
being Himself. I was raised in a very fundamentalist environment myself
and the return of Christ was used in that organization as a kind of
bogeyman to scare children and naive believers into line. Later, as I
came back to the faith from the corner of the world where these people
had driven me, it occurred to me that they really had it wrong. If they
love Jesus so much, why is His return treated as a dreadful event.
Personally, I shall be GLAD to see Him whenever He turns up!
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Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable. |
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| Steve Hayes |
| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:21 pm |
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On 27 Feb 2004 11:15:27 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: x-no-archive:yes
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:04:18 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:06:46 +1100, pintaguinness@yourlocal.com (Silver Blaze)
wrote:
Where witches are portrayed as real the portrayer is either a fraud,
massively under a missapprehension or suffering from a psychosis such as
schizophrenia
You are mistaken.
He is NOT mistaken. Ozzie is lying. He is a demoniac.
The primary characteristic of satanic activity is the making of accusations.
Satan is the accuser.
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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| Opie Taylor |
| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:19 pm |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:01:16 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com
(Steve Hayes) wrote:
~On 27 Feb 2004 11:15:27 GMT, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
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~>x-no-archive:yes
~>On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:04:18 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com
(Steve Hayes)
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~>>On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:06:46 +1100,
pintaguinness@yourlocal.com (Silver Blaze)
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~>>>Where witches are portrayed as real the portrayer is
either a fraud,
~>>>massively under a missapprehension or suffering from a
psychosis such as
~>>>schizophrenia
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~>>You are mistaken.
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~>He is NOT mistaken. Ozzie is lying. He is a demoniac.
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~The primary characteristic of satanic activity is the
making of accusations.
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~Satan is the accuser.
Satan does not exist. Never has. But, if you need a
convenient and very simple way to interpret what YOU
consider to be good and evil, have at it. Such simple gods
you have!
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| TehGhodTrole |
| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:19 pm |
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Opie Taylor wrote:
Quote: Satan does not exist. Never has. But, if you need a
convenient and very simple way to interpret what YOU
consider to be good and evil, have at it. Such simple gods
you have!
In that case, you won't mind providing a description of a complex one, eh.
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TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
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| Steve Hayes |
| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:19 am |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:48:40 GMT, Opie Taylor <OpieTaylor@MayberryRFD.com>
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Quote: On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:01:16 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com
(Steve Hayes) wrote:
~On 27 Feb 2004 11:15:27 GMT, jw
john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
~>He is NOT mistaken. Ozzie is lying. He is a demoniac.
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~The primary characteristic of satanic activity is the
making of accusations.
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~Satan is the accuser.
Satan does not exist. Never has. But, if you need a
convenient and very simple way to interpret what YOU
consider to be good and evil, have at it. Such simple gods
you have!
OK, so tell us about your complex gods then.
But preferably in a more appropriate newsgroup.
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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| Thore Schmechtig |
| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 9:21 am |
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Quote: In that case, you won't mind providing a description of a complex one, eh.
The Aesir and Vanir.
(Awaiting the idiot's lame attempts to evade the topic, probably by
vomiting insults and lies all over the place)
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UNWRITTEN RULES OF (PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALISM
1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom of religion", but whenever followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream "Persecution!"
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
5a. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than be honest and admit the obvious
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of God's personal plan for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to God himself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of God's plans for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of Gods will for
the betterment of mankind.
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as left wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything unless you purport to
forgive on behalf of other people unconnected with you for whom you don't
have that right anyhow. |
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| DOC |
| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:34 am |
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In article <8c0040155k46881bvsn3n1g257rievpoh8@4ax.com>,
OpieTaylor@MayberryRFD.com sez in this lil' ole news'froup...!
Quote: Satan does not exist. Never has. But, if you need a
convenient and very simple way to interpret what YOU
consider to be good and evil, have at it. Such simple gods
you have!
Yes, Satan DOES exist, and it's very obvious he is in control of you.
Such an easily swayed mind you have............
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~~~~~~~~~~~~JESUS is the ROCK!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
God doesn't call the qualified;
He qualifies the called!
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| Tom McCafferty |
| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:25 pm |
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| That would also prove the power of Christ to control it. |
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:19 am |
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In article <3k5r30dr7o6krgccs9s4bgvpui8bb53in4@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
I don't play. Play with someone else. I take this genocide stuff VERY
seriously..
jw
People with past KKK sympathies generally do |
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:20 am |
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In article <h75r30tjd50ko2u9qi1rmj9hmplu8gk6ku@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: Why don't you invite me to Sydney, son of Satan? I can cast them out
for you!
jw
John, You are always welcome in Sydney as in any other place in Australia.
We don't mind nuts particularly because the world has so many anyway that
a few more are barely noticeable
But if you are being stupid an Aussie will say so. If you are talking
crap he will tell you so
And if it is your shout
They'll remind you!
If you ever come to Australia I hope you enjoy your stay - sincerely.
We can be a rough lot but when we decide to look after someone we do it
till death.
Come to australia
We'll sort you out
no wucking furries!
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| jw |
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:21 am |
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On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 02:01:16 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
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Quote: On 27 Feb 2004 11:15:27 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:04:18 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:06:46 +1100, pintaguinness@yourlocal.com (Silver Blaze)
wrote:
Where witches are portrayed as real the portrayer is either a fraud,
massively under a missapprehension or suffering from a psychosis such as
schizophrenia
You are mistaken.
He is NOT mistaken. Ozzie is lying. He is a demoniac.
The primary characteristic of satanic activity is the making of accusations.
Satan is the accuser.
Not at all. God has told us how to identify the demonic. That's one
of the things I do.
And the demonic activity in this baptist group is RAMPANT!!
Well, YOU ought to know!
jw
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| Dave Oldridge |
| Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:56 am |
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jw <john_weatherly47<no>yahoo.com> wrote in
news:j4q840lvf169h1ilbq3cs1j0bf5edc0urp@4ax.com:
Quote: x-no-archive:yes
On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:50:54 GMT, Dave Oldridge
doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
jw <john_weatherly47<no>yahoo.com> wrote in
news:gap3401u3aclv7atd96lcm5tdtmc3naa4k@4ax.com:
x-no-archive:yes
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:25:09 GMT, Dave Oldridge
doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:7d1u30hl7p26hvja94hhuj2q4vnkehfsls@4ax.com:
x-no-archive:yes
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:17:51 GMT, Dave Oldridge
doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:
hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes) wrote in
news:403d8888.235186062 @news.saix.net:
On 25 Feb 2004 20:34:11 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com
wrote:
The foolish approach is to say, "You're crazy! That's no
demonic!" The SAFE, CAUTIOUS thing to do is to assume if it
looks demonic to believe it IS, and respond accordingly.
Perhaps exorcising the White House will affect the US election
result.
Heh heh. I remember back in the 60's a bunch of hippies tried to
exorcise the Pentagon. They got repelled and a sort of riot
ensued with many busted heads and some people carted off to jail.
Being a DC native, I seem to vaguely recall that event. I may have
been in the area if this was pre-1967.
Some time later, though, a bunch
of Quakers did exorcise it.
I do NOT recall that event.
That's because it was quiet, solemn and a REAL prayer vigil. Not
sensational enough for the 6 o'clock news.
Not necessarily. As I have said, several illnesses have damaged my
memory. But when I am reminded, some things come back. I now have
vague memories of what you are talking about, but they could be
artificial.
At any rate, REAL exorcisms can't hurt. It's the phony ones, such
as many that take place in the deep South (the "redneck
Pentecostals, the snake handlers, the poison drinkers) that get
people hurt.
True. And what people don't often know is that exorcism is an
integral part of the traditional rites of the Church.
Who doesn't know? Deliverance (I mean the REAL thing, not the
game-playing) is also a vital part of churches *I* have attended,
from the Southern Baptist, to the Baptist, to the non-denominationa.
Wherever his minions show up, there will be the spiritually mature
(all it takes) to cast them out.
A piece of ground or
building being prepared for a new church is routinely exorcised
before consecrating it.
The churches I have attended would simply "bless" the ground, rather
than exorcise it. The belief (which I share) is that Satan/demons
can only occupy living things.
The belief that you share is incorrect.
Nah! You are !! And your increasingly know-all attitude as I read
down the page makes me think we're done for awhile. The respect this
started with has deteriorated into me being demonic because I'm not
Roman Catholic.
Nope...I could care less what denomination you call home. *I* am not
Roman Catholic, so why should THAT bother me. It's more because I see
you pointing the finger at everything you don't like and saying "demon!
demon!" Usually, when that happens, the person doing it is either
disturbed or is trying to point attention away from himself for some
reason (usually not a good one).
I'm trying to, but you keep making it harder and harder to accept your
noises as being anything other than either deluded or just plain evil
trying to wheel and deal.
Demons laugh a lot. It's their way of keeping up a good front because,
unlike most of their victims, they KNOW where they're gonna end up.
In any case, whatever is "inspiring" you is clearly not up to handling
even gentle criticism. As for your claim that demons cannot inhabit a
place, that's just false.
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Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
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| Silver Blaze |
| Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:41 pm |
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In article <j4q840lvf169h1ilbq3cs1j0bf5edc0urp@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: Nah! You are !! And your increasingly know-all attitude as I read
down the page makes me think we're done for awhile. The respect this
started with has deteriorated into me being demonic because I'm not
Roman Catholic.
jw
So THAT is how you think it happened?
Actually you are ill!
And probably untreated because of a misdiagnosis |
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