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jw
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:38 am
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:23:32 +1100, pintaguinness@yourlocal.com
(Silver Blaze) wrote:

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In article <d7ko301d3q4kkjmvobl2ml5t6unblsqdub@4ax.com>, jw
john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:



Think about WHAT? I have seen witchcraft work.

jw



Another clear psychotic episode

LOL! Spoken like a true demoniac.
Quote:

Tell your doctor for Christ's sake!

And if you expect any replies from me, girlfriend, stop cursing my
God!

It's dangerous!

Oh! I keep meaning to ask you if you bay at the moon yet?

jw



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jw
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:38 am
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:08:00 +1100, pintaguinness@yourlocal.com
(Silver Blaze) wrote:

Quote:
In article <841o30tirsredgq7e9sd9da4ap8nc4ia0d@4ax.com>, jw
john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:



You are a demonic liar. I have known probably 50 witches in my
lifetime. MOST were OPEN about their Satan worship, tho they may have
denied worshipping Satan.

In this case psychosis is the most likely explanation

In your case, demonic possession is OBVIOUS..

Why don't you invite me to Sydney, son of Satan? I can cast them out
for you!

And if my business venture takes off, I'll do it anyway.

jw



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Steve Hayes
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:39 am
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On 25 Feb 2004 20:34:11 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
The foolish approach is to say, "You're crazy! That's no demonic!"
The SAFE, CAUTIOUS thing to do is to assume if it looks demonic to
believe it IS, and respond accordingly.

Perhaps exorcising the White House will affect the US election result.


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Steve Hayes
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:39 am
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:06:46 +1100, pintaguinness@yourlocal.com (Silver Blaze)
wrote:

Quote:
Where witches are portrayed as real the portrayer is either a fraud,
massively under a missapprehension or suffering from a psychosis such as
schizophrenia

You are mistaken.

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jw
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:39 am
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 03:32:15 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

Quote:
On 25 Feb 2004 08:40:41 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:46:03 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

On 25 Feb 2004 02:37:29 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:20:09 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 06:11:36 GMT, Tom McCafferty <burnaby2celista@hotmail.com
wrote:

Now they are back to persecuting Jews.

A few years ago they persecuted anyone who read fictional books about witchcraft and
wizardry.

Can you give some specifics - dates, times, places?

It's more pervasive than that. Those who oppose America's concrete
solid support of the Palestinians/Arabs OVER the Jews (that's MILLIONS
of people, including suicide bombers, those who bombed the WTC, and
the MANY who continue to express hatred for Jews in American today.

Sorry, you've lost me there.

Who's persecuting whom?

Are you saying Christians are persecuting suicide bombers? Or Christians are
suicide bombers persecuting Jews? Or what?

I'm saying, if you missed it, that Arabs historically hate the Jews
and those who defend the Jews. When Osama knocked down the WTC, he
announced he had done it to the infidel Americans for supporting the
hated jews. He also declared a world-wide jihad. A jihad against
Americans and all those who support Israel or America. What many have
forgotten or missed to begin with was that the jihad included
Christians, whom he named.

So are you saying, if I missed it, that Osama is a Christian?

In what way are Christians doing the persecuting?

I don't play. Play with someone else. I take this genocide stuff VERY
seriously..

jw



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RetroProphet
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:37 am
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Quote:
Go to virtually any bookstore or particularly any NEW AGE bookstore.
You will find pentagrams (the signature of witches and Satan
worshippers), and books of incantations and spells. Back in the 70s,
Dell books even got into the act with a 20 page "mini-instruction
book" on witchcraft. I read it and was shocked. The tiny book
actually gave a spell for how to murder someone.

Should you doubt me, write to dell or visit a library that includes a
large section of Witchcraft.

The thing is, John, the chances of someone actually working this spell
are about as good as someone actually working the Lord's prayer.

Think about it.

Think about WHAT? I have seen witchcraft work.

jw


You are exactly the person I am looking for.

I would like to have someone perform
witchcraft on me to test the theory that it
only "works" on those who believe in deities,
and/or while such people are observing.

Would you be willing to hook me up with any
of the witches you know? No poseurs as it's
easy enough to find those in New York. I want
one who is really powerful, preferably with a
reputation for much successful spellcasting.

Occurs to me that you may consider it sinful
for you to actually do what I am asking.
If so, so be it. Let me know either way.

And now: a reality lesson.

Criminal activity for profit is real and
attracts quite a number of folks to the field.

If witchcraft were real, it would attract so
many folks to use it that you'd have a supernatural
crime wave that would be so public and so enormous
that it would be unmistakable evidence that it is real.

This does not happen. Not even a little bit.
Not even with bookstores chock full of Dell
"how to" paperbacks for decades on end.

Witchcraft is real, but not one person has been
demonic enough to pull off a single public spectacle
just to be evil? Heck, just to be the first?
Just to glorify Satan? Just in the belief that they
were kicking off the end of the world?

What, that would be TOO evil? Please.
 
Dave Oldridge
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:38 am
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hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes) wrote in news:403d8888.235186062
@news.saix.net:

Quote:
On 25 Feb 2004 20:34:11 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

The foolish approach is to say, "You're crazy! That's no demonic!"
The SAFE, CAUTIOUS thing to do is to assume if it looks demonic to
believe it IS, and respond accordingly.

Perhaps exorcising the White House will affect the US election result.

Heh heh. I remember back in the 60's a bunch of hippies tried to exorcise
the Pentagon. They got repelled and a sort of riot ensued with many busted
heads and some people carted off to jail. Some time later, though, a bunch
of Quakers did exorcise it.

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ICQ 1800667

Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
 
Thore Schmechtig
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 9:39 am
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Quote:
Oh well, not entirely true. The Wicca faith does exist... but of course
it has nothing to do with the "Evil Satanic Witches" (TM) of fundyism Smile
Liar liar pants on fire.

Ah, fundie boy finally starts behaving in a way that shows us his true
mental age. ;)



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UNWRITTEN RULES OF (PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALISM

1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom of religion", but whenever followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream "Persecution!"
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
5a. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than be honest and admit the obvious
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of God's personal plan for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to God himself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of God's plans for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of Gods will for
the betterment of mankind.
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as left wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything unless you purport to
forgive on behalf of other people unconnected with you for whom you don't
have that right anyhow.
 
Steve Hayes
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:47 am
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On 26 Feb 2004 06:46:11 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 03:32:15 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

On 25 Feb 2004 08:40:41 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

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On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 06:46:03 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

On 25 Feb 2004 02:37:29 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 10:20:09 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 06:11:36 GMT, Tom McCafferty <burnaby2celista@hotmail.com
wrote:

Now they are back to persecuting Jews.

A few years ago they persecuted anyone who read fictional books about witchcraft and
wizardry.

Can you give some specifics - dates, times, places?

It's more pervasive than that. Those who oppose America's concrete
solid support of the Palestinians/Arabs OVER the Jews (that's MILLIONS
of people, including suicide bombers, those who bombed the WTC, and
the MANY who continue to express hatred for Jews in American today.

Sorry, you've lost me there.

Who's persecuting whom?

Are you saying Christians are persecuting suicide bombers? Or Christians are
suicide bombers persecuting Jews? Or what?

I'm saying, if you missed it, that Arabs historically hate the Jews
and those who defend the Jews. When Osama knocked down the WTC, he
announced he had done it to the infidel Americans for supporting the
hated jews. He also declared a world-wide jihad. A jihad against
Americans and all those who support Israel or America. What many have
forgotten or missed to begin with was that the jihad included
Christians, whom he named.

So are you saying, if I missed it, that Osama is a Christian?

In what way are Christians doing the persecuting?

I don't play. Play with someone else. I take this genocide stuff VERY
seriously..

You chose to play -- now give specifics - dates times, places of Christians
persecuting.

So far you've made vague allegations, and then given a lot of stuff about
Muslims.


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http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7734/stevesig.htm
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jw
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:18 am
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:04:19 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

Quote:
On 25 Feb 2004 20:34:11 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

The foolish approach is to say, "You're crazy! That's no demonic!"
The SAFE, CAUTIOUS thing to do is to assume if it looks demonic to
believe it IS, and respond accordingly.

Perhaps exorcising the White House will affect the US election result.

Could be. And there are probably few buildings on the planet that
couldn't benefit from an exorcism. However, thus far, I've seen MUCH
more obviously demonic activity in this group than I have noted
emanating from the Oval office.


jw



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jw
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:19 am
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:17:51 GMT, Dave Oldridge
<doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:

Quote:
hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes) wrote in news:403d8888.235186062
@news.saix.net:

On 25 Feb 2004 20:34:11 GMT, jw <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

The foolish approach is to say, "You're crazy! That's no demonic!"
The SAFE, CAUTIOUS thing to do is to assume if it looks demonic to
believe it IS, and respond accordingly.

Perhaps exorcising the White House will affect the US election result.

Heh heh. I remember back in the 60's a bunch of hippies tried to exorcise
the Pentagon. They got repelled and a sort of riot ensued with many busted
heads and some people carted off to jail.


Being a DC native, I seem to vaguely recall that event. I may have
been in the area if this was pre-1967.

Some time later, though, a bunch
Quote:
of Quakers did exorcise it.

I do NOT recall that event.

At any rate, REAL exorcisms can't hurt. It's the phony ones, such as
many that take place in the deep South (the "redneck Pentecostals, the
snake handlers, the poison drinkers) that get people hurt.

IOW, if a person indeed is possessed, once the "exorcist" (one who
understands his /the Holy Spirit's power over Satan) arrives, the
demon(s) is/are not allowed to hurt the possessed person. And the Holy
Spirit and the Christian who is indwelt can safely remove the demon(s)
so that no one is hurt, including the possessed.


jw



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jw
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 4:19 am
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:26:04 +0100, "Thore Schmechtig"
<WRITETOcommoner@carcosa.de> wrote:

Quote:
Oh well, not entirely true. The Wicca faith does exist... but of course
it has nothing to do with the "Evil Satanic Witches" (TM) of fundyism Smile
Liar liar pants on fire.

Ah, fundie boy finally starts behaving in a way that shows us his true
mental age. Wink

And please explain to us all why merely describing what you are with a
movie title means I'm being childish!

And YOU should be Gone with the Wind!


jw



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jw
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 6:20 am
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:04:18 GMT, hayesmstw@hotmail.com (Steve Hayes)
wrote:

Quote:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:06:46 +1100, pintaguinness@yourlocal.com (Silver Blaze)
wrote:

Where witches are portrayed as real the portrayer is either a fraud,
massively under a missapprehension or suffering from a psychosis such as
schizophrenia

You are mistaken.

He is NOT mistaken. Ozzie is lying. He is a demoniac.

jw



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Thore Schmechtig
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:21 am
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Quote:
Liar liar pants on fire.
Ah, fundie boy finally starts behaving in a way that shows us his true
mental age. Wink
And please explain to us all why merely describing what you are with a
movie title means I'm being childish!

If I really am wrong then you can prove me wrong. As you can't do this
you have to babble childhood verses (and generally also lies and fundie
propaganda of course).

Quote:
And YOU should be Gone with the Wind!

Even if you could drive ME off, TRUTH would continue to haunt you. But
go ahead to blame it all on me... and the one after me... and the one
after HIM too... et cetera, ad nauseam. You make such a wonderful fool
of yourself when you do... ;)



--
UNWRITTEN RULES OF (PSEUDO-CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALISM

1. "I'm right and you are wrong".
2. Never admit that you are wrong, even if you really are.
3. When you have nothing to say, hurl insults.
4. Regard and portray your own violence, whether physical, psychological,
or verbal, at all times as defensive
4a. Specific example for 4.: Cry for "freedom of religion", but whenever followers of other faiths want the same freedom and courts agree, scream "Persecution!"
5. Be prepared at all times to lie and bluster, particularly when backed
into a corner in an argument
5a. When caught lying, always accuse the opposition of lying rather than be honest and admit the obvious
6. Never accept responsibility for any mess you have personally caused.
7. When you are forced to admit to an error, regard the whole process of
error and correction as part of God's personal plan for you and not as a
something for which you should apologise retract or make amends except
verbally and secretly to God himself
8. Always see yourself and you personal actions as part of God's plans for
the world. Recognise that even your errors are just part of Gods will for
the betterment of mankind.
9.Profess humility but avoid the actual experience of it.
10.Refuse to take in information that differs from your own view and
oppose all such information through classification of such information in
a derogatory and simplistic manner(eg by categorising it as left wing
propaganda)
11.Refuse to accept that truth is not black and white; that reality is
complex and there are shades of grey
12.Refuse to forgive anyone else for anything unless you purport to
forgive on behalf of other people unconnected with you for whom you don't
have that right anyhow.
 
Thore Schmechtig
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:21 am
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Quote:
Thank you, too much honor for me. I'm merely a follower of Thor.
I suspected enough. Thor is the name of another demon.

If it would be like that, well... that would mean Thor is as evil as
your biblegawd. So what?

Quote:
...you and I both know which of us has
more power; and it isn't you!!!
Then you can prove it. Go ahead. Wink
If I ever encounter you face-to-face, I shall.

Translation: "I know that he won't come over from Europe to the US just
to confront me so I can safely invite him here, and when he denies I
can just call him a coward".

You lose again.

Quote:
Want to come to Seattle?

As you are the one with the ludicrous claims, I'd say it's YOUR duty to
come HERE anyway.
But then, here you wouldn't have a fundie church around the corner to
run to when helpless... let alone that here you wouldn't be allowed to
wear a gun, which probably is the only thing that gives you any fake
courage anyway.



--
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian.
 
 
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