in building a thought form you have to understand the basics of how
they are formed for this one you hold your hands out in front of you
about 6 inces apart palms facing each other.Will the energy to flow
between your hands, your are building this entity while you are
sending love from your heart, and power from your eyes to the area
between your hands. You should start feeling the energy flow and grow,
at this point you will start
chanting.
Watcher Building
Chant Thoughts of
purity and light Fresh
life I bring to you
tonight Ears to hear and
eyes to see Myfaithful
watcher you will be,
Watching for me far and
near, What I should
know, that you will hear. Gather all
effectively
Andbring it quickly back to
me Execute this
faithfully, And
and as my words so mote it be

babydahl8 wrote:

in building a thought form you have to understand the basics of how
they are formed for this one you hold your hands out in front of you
about 6 inces apart palms facing each other.Will the energy to flow
between your hands, your are building this entity while you are
sending love from your heart, and power from your eyes to the area
between your hands. You should start feeling the energy flow and grow,
at this point you will start
chanting.
Watcher Building
Chant Thoughts of
purity and light Fresh
life I bring to you
tonight Ears to hear and
eyes to see Myfaithful
watcher you will be,
Watching for me far and
near, What I should
know, that you will hear. Gather all
effectively
Andbring it quickly back to
me Execute this
faithfully, And
and as my words so mote it be



Careless neophytes like you make the astral traffic *HELL* for the rest
of us.

Alexandra Ceelie wrote:
babydahl8 wrote:

in building a thought form you have to understand the basics of how
they are formed for this one you hold your hands out in front of you
about 6 inces apart palms facing each other.Will the energy to flow
between your hands, your are building this entity while you are
sending love from your heart, and power from your eyes to the area
between your hands. You should start feeling the energy flow and grow,
at this point you will start
chanting.
Watcher Building
Chant                                                     Thoughts of
purity and light                                                 Fresh
life I bring to you
tonight                                             Ears to hear and
eyes to see                                               Myfaithful
watcher you will be,
Watching for me far and
near,                                               What I should
know, that you will hear.                               Gather all
effectively
Andbring it quickly back to
me                                           Execute this
faithfully,                                                      And
and as my words so mote it be

Careless neophytes like you make the astral traffic *HELL* for the rest
of us.

*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)

"Alexandra Ceelie" wrote:
"babydahl8" wrote:

in building a thought form you have to understand the basics of how
they are formed for this one you hold your hands out in front of you
about 6 inces apart palms facing each other.Will the energy to flow
between your hands, your are building this entity while you are
sending love from your heart, and power from your eyes to the area
between your hands. You should start feeling the energy flow and grow,
at this point you will start
chanting.
Watcher Building
Chant Thoughts of
purity and light Fresh
life I bring to you
tonight Ears to hear and
eyes to see Myfaithful
watcher you will be,
Watching for me far and
near, What I should
know, that you will hear. Gather all
effectively
Andbring it quickly back to
me Execute this
faithfully, And
and as my words so mote it be


Careless neophytes like you make the astral traffic *HELL* for the rest of
us.


*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)
--

"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:

"Alexandra Ceelie" wrote:

"babydahl8" wrote:

*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)
--



Yes, it can be funny

to consider that everyone else consists of traffic jams
except one's self. Not to mention the humor implied in 'astral
congestion'.
;

On Oct 11, 12:33pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq."
wrote:

Alexandra Ceelie wrote:

babydahl8 wrote:

and as my words so mote it be

Careless neophytes like you make the astral traffic *HELL* for the rest
of us.

*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)


Along with back seat driving, telling the rest of us the only way to
get there.

If i can see propoganda shurly everyone else can?

"sâr`châsm" wrote:
"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:

*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)

Yes, it can be funny to consider that everyone else consists of traffic
jams
except one's self. Not to mention the humor implied in 'astral
congestion'.
;

All humor is based on suffering ....

I think i astraly project but im not sure.
Not a lot of objective standrads by which to measure oneself.

On Oct 11, 12:33 pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." <jpsti... at (no spam) isp.com
Alexandra Ceelie wrote:
babydahl8 wrote:

On Oct 12, 12:15=A0pm, aine <aine_nicne... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 11, 12:33=A0pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq."
jpsti... at (no spam) isp.com

Alexandra Ceelie wrote:

babydahl8 wrote:

Don't make me stop this ritual!

I will turn this ritual right around and we will all go home!

Now sit down and behave. Or no cakes and ale when we get there.

"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:

"sâr`châsm" wrote:
"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:

*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)

Yes, it can be funny to consider that everyone else consists of traffic
jams
except one's self. Not to mention the humor implied in 'astral
congestion'.
;

All humor is based on suffering ....



All humor? Much is, that's evident.


I think i astraly project but im not sure.
Not a lot of objective standrads by which to measure oneself.



It might be possible to establish baseline parameters to determine whether
or not one has astrally-projected somewhere, however, such OOBEs seem to be
largely resistant to 'objective standards'. Worth a try, if you can find
someone else to participate. Alternatively, what would any definitive
results get you; validation?

sâr`châsm wrote:
"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:

"sâr`châsm" wrote:
"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq."  wrote:

*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)

Yes, it can be funny to consider that everyone else consists of traffic
jams
except one's self.  Not to mention the humor implied in 'astral
congestion'.
;

All humor is based on suffering ....

All humor?  Much is, that's evident.

I think i astraly project but im not sure.
Not a lot of objective standrads by which to measure oneself.

It might be possible to establish baseline parameters to determine whether
or not one has astrally-projected somewhere, however, such OOBEs seem to be
largely resistant to 'objective standards'.  Worth a try, if you can find
someone else to participate.  Alternatively, what would any definitive
results get you; validation?

There is a claim that 'astral projection' can be the experience of other
dimensions, where as oobe's are merely out of body experiences of ones
own dimension.  Perhaps a different point of view might be influential
even in that.  Seeing the same thing differently rather than
experiencing something new.
--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
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aine wrote:
On Oct 11, 12:33pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq."
wrote:

Alexandra Ceelie wrote:

babydahl8 wrote:

and as my words so mote it be

Careless neophytes like you make the astral traffic *HELL* for the rest
of us.

*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)

Along with back seat driving, telling the rest of us the only way to
get there.

If i can see propoganda shurly everyone else can?

I am very fond of metaphore (Magick as) and i like a entendre (double or
...), little left to us epistilogicaly, here, now.... yet for some
strange reason i endure.

And i remain,

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

On Oct 13, 8:20 pm, "Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." <jpsti... at (no spam) isp.com
wrote:
sâr`châsm wrote:
"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq." wrote:

"sâr`châsm" wrote:
"Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq."  wrote:

*Chuckle* tourists on a bus complaining about the traffic:)

Yes, it can be funny to consider that everyone else consists of traffic
jams
except one's self.  Not to mention the humor implied in 'astral
congestion'.
;

All humor is based on suffering ....

All humor?  Much is, that's evident.

I think i astraly project but im not sure.
Not a lot of objective standrads by which to measure oneself.

It might be possible to establish baseline parameters to determine whether
or not one has astrally-projected somewhere, however, such OOBEs seem to be
largely resistant to 'objective standards'.  Worth a try, if you can find
someone else to participate.  Alternatively, what would any definitive
results get you; validation?

There is a claim that 'astral projection' can be the experience of other
dimensions, where as oobe's are merely out of body experiences of ones
own dimension.  Perhaps a different point of view might be influential
even in that.  Seeing the same thing differently rather than
experiencing something new.
--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

That is how I generally experience it. However, I think I have to
travel in a different dimension in order to arrive at destinations so
quickly. oobe's seem to always arrive at somewhere within this earth
plane where astral does not.

There is a claim that 'astral projection' can be the experience of other
dimensions, where as oobe's are merely out of body experiences of ones own
dimension. Perhaps a different point of view might be influential even in
that. Seeing the same thing differently rather than experiencing
something new.
--
Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.