"#" <911@numbers.for.you> wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Try here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/index.php?search=jesus&searchtype=all&version=31&startnumber=11&startnumber=933

and change the "Display" number from "25" to "500" verses and references

Thank you, I bookmarked the site........

Now, about your sarcasm........what shall we do about that?

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:11:31 -0600, "jesse"
lordprofessor@hotmail.com> wrote:

Paul was most like the boy whose robes were torn away as the Romans came
to
take Jesus to trial and crucifixion. He met Jesus, but was very young at
the time, so unlikely he knew him for long.

What evidence do you have for that? There has been speculation that he
was at the stoning of Stephen.

William

"William" <tielige@mail.clara.fl.com> wrote
"~z~" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or
not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely,
if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

He rarely mentioned the earthly Jesus. He never met him and didn't
take much account of what he was told about him.

William

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:56:15 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

"#" <911@numbers.for.you> wrote in message
news:1n4fioxmowkt0.1g3tyy9p2iimg$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or
not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely,
if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Try here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/index.php?search=jesus&searchtype=all&version=31&startnumber=11&startnumber=933

and change the "Display" number from "25" to "500" verses and references

Thank you, I bookmarked the site........

Now, about your sarcasm........what shall we do about that?

1. You had listened to some misinformation regarding the Bible.
2. You were wanting to check up if Jesus was mentioned much outside the 4
Gospels.
3. You were advised to actually read the Bible instead of looking at a
concordance (which didn't list Jesus), and were given a specific
recommendation of a book to read.
4. You think that is sarcastic.

Additional terms that you may come across whilst reading through the text
include: Christ, Son, Son of God, Lamb, Word etc

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

To refresh your memory....
------------
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Who told you that? Have you not read the Bible?
---------------------------

Now, I wish to explain something to you, that will likely go over your head,
since the only opinion you value is your own.

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:11:38 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

To refresh your memory....
------------
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Who told you that? Have you not read the Bible?
---------------------------

Now, I wish to explain something to you, that will likely go over your
head,
since the only opinion you value is your own.

Who told you that?

You have not yet responded with who provided this astoundingly
incredulous
misinformation

Have you not read the Bible?

Really. If you had, it would be obvious that this was misinformation.
Have
you? Did you check the Bible first?

"#" <911@numbers.for.you> wrote in message
news:lbfa7xqbmfak$.12xr0xp8yo7gc.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:11:38 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

To refresh your memory....
------------
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Who told you that? Have you not read the Bible?
---------------------------

Now, I wish to explain something to you, that will likely go over your
head,
since the only opinion you value is your own.

Who told you that?

You have not yet responded with who provided this astoundingly
incredulous
misinformation

Have you not read the Bible?

Really. If you had, it would be obvious that this was misinformation.
Have
you? Did you check the Bible first?

Amazing how you refuse to look in the mirror--no matter how you dodge and
weave, this topic switched to YOUR sarcasm, not anything else. Sarcasm
trumps all else, rendering all other discussion moot.

It's not going to be long before the Lord returns. Without salvation the
only place to go after death is hell. Being good is not enough or doing
many
good things. Hell is full of good people, only saved people can go to
heaven.

Romans 3:23 says, "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of
God"

Romans 6:23 - "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is
eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Romans 10:9-11 - "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord
Jesus,
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead,
thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness;
and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture
saith, "Whosoever believeth on Him shall not be ashamed".

Romans 10:13 - "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall
be
saved."

If you died today, would you go to heaven? If you are not sure, use the
prayer below and ask the Lord to come into your life.

Heavenly Father, I come to you in Jesus' name. I know that I am a sinner
and
need your forgiveness. I believe that You died on the cross for my sins
and
rose from the grave to give me life. I know You are the only way to God so
now I want to quit disobeying You and start living for You. Please forgive
me, change my life and show me how to know You. In Jesus' name. Amen.

If you prayed the prayer above and meant it, get hold of a Bible read and
learn. Live your life according to His Word, and you can be assured of
eternal life and heaven.

May the Lord bless and keep you.

"~z~" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:cdssck$kc3$0@pita.alt.net...

THANKS ~Z~

William wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:11:31 -0600, "jesse"
lordprofessor@hotmail.com> wrote:

Paul was most like the boy whose robes were torn away as the Romans came
to
take Jesus to trial and crucifixion. He met Jesus, but was very young at
the time, so unlikely he knew him for long.

What evidence do you have for that? There has been speculation that he
was at the stoning of Stephen.

He was at the stoning of Stephen. At that time he was called 'Saul'.

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:18:31 GMT, alt <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote:

William wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:11:31 -0600, "jesse"
lordprofessor@hotmail.com> wrote:

Paul was most like the boy whose robes were torn away as the Romans came
to
take Jesus to trial and crucifixion. He met Jesus, but was very young
at the time, so unlikely he knew him for long.

What evidence do you have for that? There has been speculation that he
was at the stoning of Stephen.

He was at the stoning of Stephen. At that time he was called 'Saul'.

But what is your evidence that he was the one at the trial?

William

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:41:20 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

"#" <911@numbers.for.you> wrote in message
news:lbfa7xqbmfak$.12xr0xp8yo7gc.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:11:38 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

To refresh your memory....
------------
I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or
not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely,
if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Who told you that? Have you not read the Bible?
---------------------------

Now, I wish to explain something to you, that will likely go over your
head,
since the only opinion you value is your own.

Who told you that?

You have not yet responded with who provided this astoundingly
incredulous
misinformation

Have you not read the Bible?

Really. If you had, it would be obvious that this was misinformation.
Have
you? Did you check the Bible first?

Amazing how you refuse to look in the mirror--no matter how you dodge and
weave, this topic switched to YOUR sarcasm, not anything else. Sarcasm
trumps all else, rendering all other discussion moot.

Who exactly is this person whom you speak of, that provided this
astounding
piece of misinformation regarding a supposed lack of references to Jesus
outside the 4 Gospels? I really would like to know just where you picked
this up from. Surely as one who has spoken previously about what a
Christian should be like, it would seem reasonable that you should be
familiar with Scriptures. Did you actually check the Bible to see if what
they said was true? Have you since passed onto them that their assertions
were false?

Also, if you had taken a bit more notice about 6 months ago, instead of
plonking the following respondent, you could have had the answers you were
seeking a long time ago. I note that "ROCK" includes a number of
references
to Jesus from Romans.

+++

~z~ Jul 25 2004, 3:49 pm
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian, alt.religion.christian.baptist,
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, alt.religion.islam
From: "~z~" <zee@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:49:45 -0700
Local: Sun, Jul 25 2004 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: So.....we're the "ignorant masses?"

"ROCK" <n...@email.com> wrote in message

news:EMCdnddLt6AMq5ncRVn-iQ@comcast.com...

It's not going to be long before the Lord returns. Without salvation the
only place to go after death is hell. Being good is not enough or doing
many
good things. Hell is full of good people, only saved people can go to
heaven.

Romans 3:23 says, "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of
God"

Romans 6:23 - "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is
eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Romans 10:9-11 - "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord
Jesus,
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead,
thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness;
and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture
saith, "Whosoever believeth on Him shall not be ashamed".

Romans 10:13 - "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall
be
saved."

If you died today, would you go to heaven? If you are not sure, use the
prayer below and ask the Lord to come into your life.

Heavenly Father, I come to you in Jesus' name. I know that I am a sinner
and
need your forgiveness. I believe that You died on the cross for my sins
and
rose from the grave to give me life. I know You are the only way to God
so
now I want to quit disobeying You and start living for You. Please
forgive
me, change my life and show me how to know You. In Jesus' name. Amen.

If you prayed the prayer above and meant it, get hold of a Bible read and
learn. Live your life according to His Word, and you can be assured of
eternal life and heaven.

May the Lord bless and keep you.

"~z~" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cdssck$kc3$0@pita.alt.net...

THANKS ~Z~

*PLONK*

http://www.ndir.com/cgi-bin/bad_eliza.cgi

William wrote:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:18:31 GMT, alt <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote:

William wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:11:31 -0600, "jesse"
lordprofessor@hotmail.com> wrote:

Paul was most like the boy whose robes were torn away as the Romans came
to
take Jesus to trial and crucifixion. He met Jesus, but was very young
at the time, so unlikely he knew him for long.

What evidence do you have for that? There has been speculation that he
was at the stoning of Stephen.

He was at the stoning of Stephen. At that time he was called 'Saul'.

But what is your evidence that he was the one at the trial?

William

I never said I had any. There is no evidence that I know of that supports
this theory.

I merely stated that he was at the stoning of Stephen.

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 02:05:50 GMT, alt <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote:

William wrote:

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 00:18:31 GMT, alt <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote:

William wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 20:11:31 -0600, "jesse"
lordprofessor@hotmail.com> wrote:

Paul was most like the boy whose robes were torn away as the Romans
came to
take Jesus to trial and crucifixion. He met Jesus, but was very young
at the time, so unlikely he knew him for long.

What evidence do you have for that? There has been speculation that he
was at the stoning of Stephen.

He was at the stoning of Stephen. At that time he was called 'Saul'.

But what is your evidence that he was the one at the trial?

William

I never said I had any. There is no evidence that I know of that supports
this theory.

I merely stated that he was at the stoning of Stephen.

OK, I see that now. "jesse" never replied.

William

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:37:03 -0800, ~z~ wrote:

I heard something that seems very odd--like to hear if it's true or not.
A
person said that Paul in all his writings, rarely mention
Jesus.....furthermore that outside of the 4 Gospels, Jesus is rarely, if
at
all, mentioned. Surely this isn't true?

Try here:
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/index.php?search=jesus&searchtype=all&version=31&startnumber=11&startnumber=933

and change the "Display" number from "25" to "500" verses and references