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| Father Gregory... |
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:20 am |
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Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Pavle, has died in
Belgrade, the Church has announced.
The 95-year-old patriarch, who became leader of the Church in 1990, was
admitted to the city's military hospital two years ago.
He died on Sunday morning. Though he reportedly suffered from heart and lung
conditions, the Church did not specify the cause of death.
Most of Serbia's population of seven million people are Orthodox Christians.
Pavle was a respected theologian and linguist, known for personal humility
and modesty.
After the fall of communism and rise of Serb na
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:33 am |
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Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Pavle, has died in
Belgrade, the Church has announced.
The 95-year-old patriarch, who became leader of the Church in 1990, was
admitted to the city's military hospital two years ago.
He died on Sunday morning. Though he reportedly suffered from heart and lung
conditions, the Church did not specify the cause of death.
Most of Serbia's population of seven million people are Orthodox Christians.
Pavle was a respected theologian and linguist, known for personal humility
and modesty.
After the fall of communism and rise of Serb nationalism, the Church
regained a leading role during his rule.
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Fr Gregory
"Father Gregory" <father.gregory at (no spam) ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:f7ULm.47259$s_4.32220 at (no spam) newsfe02.ams2...
Quote: Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Pavle, has died in
Belgrade, the Church has announced.
The 95-year-old patriarch, who became leader of the Church in 1990, was
admitted to the city's military hospital two years ago.
He died on Sunday morning. Though he reportedly suffered from heart and
lung conditions, the Church did not specify the cause of death.
Most of Serbia's population of seven million people are Orthodox
Christians.
Pavle was a respected theologian and linguist, known for personal humility
and modesty.
After the fall of communism and rise of Serb na
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| Catherine Jefferson... |
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:23 pm |
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Father Gregory wrote:
Quote: Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
<snip, but read>
He was a good shepherd and a good man.
Memory eternal!
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Catherine Jefferson <ariel at (no spam) devsite.org>
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:26 pm |
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On Nov 15, 9:33 am, "Father Gregory" <father.greg... at (no spam) ntlworld.com>
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Quote: Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Pavle, has died in
Belgrade, the Church has announced.
The 95-year-old patriarch, who became leader of the Church in 1990, was
admitted to the city's military hospital two years ago.
He died on Sunday morning. Though he reportedly suffered from heart and lung
conditions, the Church did not specify the cause of death.
Most of Serbia's population of seven million people are Orthodox Christians.
Pavle was a respected theologian and linguist, known for personal humility
and modesty.
After the fall of communism and rise of Serb nationalism, the Church
regained a leading role during his rule.
--
Fr Gregory"Father Gregory" <father.greg... at (no spam) ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:f7ULm.47259$s_4.32220 at (no spam) newsfe02.ams2...
Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Pavle, has died in
Belgrade, the Church has announced.
The 95-year-old patriarch, who became leader of the Church in 1990, was
admitted to the city's military hospital two years ago.
He died on Sunday morning. Though he reportedly suffered from heart and
lung conditions, the Church did not specify the cause of death.
Most of Serbia's population of seven million people are Orthodox
Christians.
Pavle was a respected theologian and linguist, known for personal humility
and modesty.
After the fall of communism and rise of Serb na
--
Fr Gregory
Because of the time difference between Washington and Serbia (6
hours), we were able to commemorate the Patriarch in the liturgy |
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:30 pm |
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On Nov 15, 3:23 pm, Catherine Jefferson <spamt... at (no spam) spambouncer.org>
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Quote: Father Gregory wrote:
Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
snip, but read
He was a good shepherd and a good man.
He urged the public to vote for Radovan Karadjic instead of Milosevic
at one point in his career and allowed a huge amount of nationalism to
give reign, something that his reputation could have done much to
stem. He served long, and in the opinion of many, well, and was known
for an irreproachable personal life. Being human, he was not immune
to a few large errors of judgement. But he consistently maintained
focus on religious things, things of the spirit and at leas tried to
stay out of politics.
Quote:
Memory eternal!
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Personal Home Page * <http://www.devsite.org/
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:11 pm |
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"Father Gregory" <father.gregory at (no spam) ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Pavle, has died in
Belgrade, the Church has announced.
The 95-year-old patriarch, who became leader of the Church in 1990, was
admitted to the city's military hospital two years ago.
He died on Sunday morning. Though he reportedly suffered from heart and
lung conditions, the Church did not specify the cause of death.
Most of Serbia's population of seven million people are Orthodox
Christians.
Pavle was a respected theologian and linguist, known for personal humility
and modesty.
After the fall of communism and rise of Serb nationalism, the Church
regained a leading role during his rule.
--
Fr Gregory
"Father Gregory" <father.gregory at (no spam) ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:f7ULm.47259$s_4.32220 at (no spam) newsfe02.ams2...
Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church, Patriarch Pavle, has died in
Belgrade, the Church has announced.
The 95-year-old patriarch, who became leader of the Church in 1990, was
admitted to the city's military hospital two years ago.
He died on Sunday morning. Though he reportedly suffered from heart and
lung conditions, the Church did not specify the cause of death.
Most of Serbia's population of seven million people are Orthodox
Christians.
Pavle was a respected theologian and linguist, known for personal
humility and modesty.
So was he baptised by water immersion into Jesus' saving name.....AFTER he
came to a knowledge of Christ?
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:46 pm |
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Quote: On Nov 15, 3:23 pm, Catherine Jefferson <spamt... at (no spam) spambouncer.org
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Father Gregory wrote:
Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
snip, but read
He was a good shepherd and a good man.
He urged the public to vote for Radovan Karadjic instead of Milosevic
at one point in his career and allowed a huge amount of nationalism to
give reign, something that his reputation could have done much to
stem. He served long, and in the opinion of many, well, and was known
for an irreproachable personal life. Being human, he was not immune
to a few large errors of judgement. But he consistently maintained
focus on religious things, things of the spirit and at leas tried to
stay out of politics.
Unfortunately true. :/ He could have done a better job identifying
certain critical human rights issues and opposing evil men. However, I
never got the impression that he was defending evil or deliberately
ignoring evil; his errors were errors of judgment, not failures in faith
or basic decency.
In the former Yugoslavia during the 1990s, any leader that did not
exhibit evil, defend evil, or deliberately ignore evil was something of
an anomaly. I'm grateful for this Patriarch, who was not just an
anomaly but a Christlike anomaly at the center of the local Orthodox
Church.
Lord, have mercy!
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Catherine Jefferson <ariel at (no spam) devsite.org>
Personal Home Page * <http://www.devsite.org/>
The SpamBouncer * <http://www.spambouncer.org/> |
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:21 pm |
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On Nov 15, 11:46 pm, Catherine Jefferson <spamt... at (no spam) spambouncer.org>
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Quote: ++ wrote:
On Nov 15, 3:23 pm, Catherine Jefferson <spamt... at (no spam) spambouncer.org
wrote:
Father Gregory wrote:
Serbian Orthodox Patriarch dies
snip, but read
He was a good shepherd and a good man.
He urged the public to vote for Radovan Karadjic instead of Milosevic
at one point in his career and allowed a huge amount of nationalism to
give reign, something that his reputation could have done much to
stem. He served long, and in the opinion of many, well, and was known
for an irreproachable personal life. Being human, he was not immune
to a few large errors of judgement. But he consistently maintained
focus on religious things, things of the spirit and at leas tried to
stay out of politics.
Unfortunately true. :/ He could have done a better job identifying
certain critical human rights issues and opposing evil men. However, I
never got the impression that he was defending evil or deliberately
ignoring evil; his errors were errors of judgment, not failures in faith
or basic decency.
In the former Yugoslavia during the 1990s, any leader that did not
exhibit evil, defend evil, or deliberately ignore evil was something of
an anomaly. I'm grateful for this Patriarch, who was not just an
anomaly but a Christlike anomaly at the center of the local Orthodox
Church.
Lord, have mercy!
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Catherine Jefferson <ar... at (no spam) devsite.org
Personal Home Page * <http://www.devsite.org/
The SpamBouncer * <http://www.spambouncer.org/
I think stumping for Karadjic and supporting some others is more than
a small error in judgement.
One year, as the largest Orthodox cathedral in the world was going up,
I walked around the construction outside the fence of St. Sava in
Beograd. Visible almost everywhere where there wwas a trash can were
many many people going through trash to see if there was something
they could use, eat or sell. The Serbian people have suffered much
from nationalist policies of their leaders and it might take a
generation or two to erase the effects of nationalism on the public |
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