http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNaoDyV-PJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH1SlSB9uH8&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHBKaF617TE

There are still untold evidences,many millions of them unfortunately
not archive because of technology not available in the early
Charismatic/Pentecostal days.In fact many books went missing in my
life times,due to lack of popularity.

God in His mercy have just allowed AA Allen of USA,and very few
reliable and honorable men to have those records for the benefit of
unbelievers.

Gabriel Angel,met Roland Buck and spoke to him at great length inside
USA.
Gabriel Angel also met and spoke to one Singaporean,name Sadhu Sundar
Selvaraj.He also met with Micheal.
This person was the same person who met and spoke to Joseph,the father
of Jesus.

Benny Hinn also had seen "Micheal".

At different places and different times,and different countries,there
were also reported of such phenomenon,by the many thousands
information.

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You keep claiming that millions have been cured in this manner, but
you just don't seem to be able to come up with anything other than
short YouTube clips. You have yet to present a person who has
genuinely been cured by God, who can present medical documents or
testimony confirming their medical condition, who was then examined
after the miraculous cure, and this condition or illness being
confirmed as cured by means unknown.

***Dear Devils Advocate.

I have answered tirelessly the same old objections,again and again,and
the same old stuffs.Both from carnal believers and non-believers.

""confirmed as cured by means unknown""Why? It was the same Jesus who
did those miracles while he was in the human flesh,as recorded in the
Bible Gospel,how can I be so stupid to confirm as cure unknown,when I
know it is He who is still doing it,daily and everywhere?

You want me to follow your format,to say that the cure is unknown?
Worst,you are asking me to show it is supernatural,and then to urge me
to conclude it is unknown?

It was by means KNOWN.

A skeptic who had not seen any of those great things of God ,converse
with me,...that it was hypnosis,hallucinations,unknown....everything
and anything except it is from Jesus.

The lawyers for Khalid,the mastermind of 9/11 is saying that it was
all conspiracies of US government,and everything done by US government
except Khalid who should be responsible for 9/11.

I notice you and so many others lacking serious intelligence,nor had
shown me any shred of common sense,and I have refrain from rebuking
you guys further because I don't want to sound so lofty.

Pls think through before you raised your objections.

Frankie Lee wrote:

 >> Benny Hinn also had seen "Micheal".

 This Benny Hinn?
"
Although Hinn has been asked and challenged many times he has failed to
prove even a single "healing" objectively. His claims of "miracles" also
lack scientific evidence or proof. Instead, people apparently feel "healed,"
therefore they are "healed."

The media has often scrutinized the Benny Hinn fraud. Time and time again he
is shown to knowing manipulate the faithful and take willingly take their
money.

It has been reported that the Benny Hinn Ministry is takes in more than $100
million dollars annually.

The Benny Hinn scam terms his vacations "layovers" because they are
considered legitimate business expenses. These layovers include multiple
night stays at $10,000 per night hotels, $2000 meals and lavish shopping
sprees.

Hinn's house cost $3.5 million to build, has 7 bedrooms, 8 baths, and
includes 6,000 square feet, a view of the Pacific and room for five cars in
its underground garage. Benny prefers BMWs.

All of the money to fuel Benny Hinn's expenses and perks comes from
contributions to his tax-exempt ministry.

Hinn has been accused many times of using false claims and scams of miracles
to gain followers and donations.

A former employee of Benny said, Hinn once received 5$ from an elderly lady
who claimed it was the last 5$ she had. Hinn made light of a $5 donation
saying "Ha, I got her last $5, guys."

On 14-Nov-2009, Frankie Lee <leeahk... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

Benny Hinn also had seen "Micheal".

Benny Hinny ........... ok that does it ......... anyone who thinks that
charlatan has any credibility is in serious need of help ...... Benny Hinn
is such an obvious fraudster it is laughable .......

I'm just about done with you Frankie ....... you are so fucking deeply,
impenetrably stupid it is just not worth the bandwidth dealing with you
......

--
MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....

Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity ..............
and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
 - A. Einstein

Does Schrödinger's cat have 18 half lives ?

On Nov 13, 10:26 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

What is truth?  I've told you before, Frankie-stein:  "truth" is
whatever anybody says it is.  Christians have one version of truth.
Muslims have a different versions.  Mormons have still another.
Hindus yet another.

I don't care about "truth," I care about *fact*.  And the fact is,
there's no reason to believe any god exists, including yours.

And while I've got your ear:  my boyfriend's amputated legs still have
not grown back.  When is your god going to do something about that?

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

And yet you cannot name a single person who possesses these books or
even offer up a single title of any of these books.

Me: They have,and in their generation.Why do you think American had
revivals and many Atheists became Christians then?

So they have the records available for examination, yet you cannot
present those records.

And you make another unsupported assertion in defense of the other
without presenting evidence for the second.

Why is that?

Gabriel Angel,met Roland Buck and spoke to him at great length inside
USA.
Gabriel Angel also met and spoke to one Singaporean,name Sadhu Sundar
Selvaraj.He also met with Micheal.
This person was the same person who met and spoke to Joseph,the father
of Jesus.

We only have their word for their alleged encounters with the Angel
Gabriel, what evidence do you have to support their claims?

Me***What evidence do you want?Roland Buck has his book on sale.Benny
Hinn had a TV ministry.This is your day.TBN,CBN.
Everyone had their format and ways to give evidence.Each person do it
in their way.Theologians have their own means,and they love to go by
reasoning with Intellectuals,and cover every mis-conception of
unbelievers by mere words.

So if someone tells you they have spoken to God or one of God's
angels, you would believe them without evidence?

Tell me something Frankie, if a scientist said they had evidence that
supports a given scientific theory, but wouldn't offer that evidence
for examination, would you accept their claim or would you reject it?



Benny Hinn also had seen "Micheal".

At different places and different times,and different countries,there
were also reported of such phenomenon,by the many thousands
information.

All subjective material, nothing in the way of objective evidence.

Me: I have visited many many countries,collecting evidences.All I know
is,what do you think is objective in gathering of information and be
objective?

1,My criteria-an honest man.Be Objective.
2,A Christian who has repented of sins.
3,He must not be an Atheist,because they will ridicule folks there and
insult folks who give them evidence and they will corrupt that which
is holy into some crude and dirty jokes.
4,He must be a rich man.The cost of Videos,Equipments,and man power is
very costly.
5,A doctor certified by some universities.
6,One who has connection with all the Liberal media in USA.
7,One who also must have the spiritual world open to him,which mean he
should be able to see angels and spirits......there are 20 more
criterias.
............
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Your criteria are hardly objective as you show a bias against anyone
who doesn't believe what you believe.

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You keep claiming that millions have been cured in this manner, but
you just don't seem to be able to come up with anything other than
short YouTube clips. You have yet to present a person who has
genuinely been cured by God, who can present medical documents or
testimony confirming their medical condition, who was then examined
after the miraculous cure, and this condition or illness being
confirmed as cured by means unknown.

***Dear Devils Advocate.

I have answered tirelessly the same old objections,again and again,and
the same old stuffs.Both from carnal believers and non-believers.

""confirmed as cured by means unknown""Why? It was the same Jesus who
did those miracles while he was in the human flesh,as recorded in the
Bible Gospel,how can I be so stupid to confirm as cure unknown,when I
know it is He who is still doing it,daily and everywhere?

You want me to follow your format,to say that the cure is unknown?
Worst,you are asking me to show it is supernatural,and then to urge me
to conclude it is unknown?

It was by means KNOWN.

When I use the phrase "confirmed as cured by means unknown", I am
simply saying that the person was not cured by conventional medical
procedures and treatments, that their condition went into remission or
complete reversal without medical intervention.

A skeptic who had not seen any of those great things of God ,converse
with me,...that it was hypnosis,hallucinations,unknown....everything
and anything except it is from Jesus.

You object to my skepticism, yet there was one of the apostles refused
to believe that Jesus was risen "Unless I see the nail marks in his
hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his
side, I will not believe."

Curious how you haven't responded to this part of my posting.





The lawyers for Khalid,the mastermind of 9/11 is saying that it was
all conspiracies of US government,and everything done by US government
except Khalid who should be responsible for 9/11.

Irrelevant to the issue in question.

I notice you and so many others lacking serious intelligence,nor had
shown me any shred of common sense,and I have refrain from rebuking
you guys further because I don't want to sound so lofty.

So when someone raises objections to your unsupported assertions,
according to you it is because they lack intelligence or common sense.

It may well be that they question your assertions because like that
apostle they doubt anything that is said without supporting evidence.

Curious how you haven't responded to this part of my posting.





Pls think through before you raised your objections.

I always think through things before I raise my objections.

So far you have offered nothing in the way of evidence that actually
supports your assertions regarding people being cured by divine
intervention.

How about you try again.

Perhaps this time find some account of an amputee whose missing limb
was seen to grow back, and support that account with medical
documentation confirming that the person was a real amputee.

If as you say so many millions of people have been cured, including
amputees, you should have no trouble at all coming up with what I ask
for.

Curious how you haven't responded to this part of my posting.

One final question for you Frankie, do you know the apostle that I
made mention of?

On Nov 15, 11:53 am, SkyEyes <skyey... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On Nov 13, 10:26 pm, Frankie Lee <leeahk... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

What is truth?  I've told you before, Frankie-stein:  "truth" is
whatever anybody says it is.  Christians have one version of truth.
Muslims have a different versions.  Mormons have still another.
Hindus yet another.

I don't care about "truth," I care about *fact*.  And the fact is,
there's no reason to believe any god exists, including yours.

And while I've got your ear:  my boyfriend's amputated legs still have
not grown back.  When is your god going to do something about that?

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net

**There is one Truth.