Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:23:50 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

On Oct 30, 12:51 am, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.

Good!  Let's start with the statement that the Catholic Church is a
national obscenity, a blight upon the face of all that is decent, and
should be disbaned in this country.

If one consider the crimes committed by  homosexual pedophiles

masquerading as  priest in the Catholic church then the thing to do is
take them all out line them up against a wall and execute them. There
is no good reason for not doing just that,

On Oct 29, 9:51???pm, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:

Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.

Uhh, you mean we might move towards becoming a country instead of a
loose amalgamation of villages, cities, counties, and states -- each
with their own set of laws?

:-)

Jenny

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:59:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <address at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:

One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:

Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.

Why do you want to join church and state? That goes against the Bill of
Rights, and the entire purpose of America. What, are you an idiot?

We're trying to get you to clean up your act for the good of humankind and
children.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:25:13 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo <ckdbigtoe at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 30, 8:08?am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:59:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:

Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.

Why do you want to join church and state? ?That goes against the Bill of
Rights, and the entire purpose of America. ?What, are you an idiot? ?

We're trying to get you to clean up your act

When you've cleaned up your act, then you can complain about mine.
Your back yard is filthy, and an obscenity.

A national standard for obscenity is the cleanup we're looking for, notown.

On 30 Oct 2009 05:15:46 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patrick at (no spam) io.com> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:51:44 -0400, J <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.

No, it won't, Junkie. No News Now has never been known for being honest.
If there's an actual move towards that, I suggest the miscreants have the
Constitution shoved down their throats, whether they consent or not.

If you show inappropriate material on the public waves, you lose your license to
operate.

If you want a war between this country and the Vatican, expect to be a
casualty. I'll stick with my country.

LOL! That sounds like something out of Monty Python! I can just see
it: A bunch of bishops armed with their miters and backed up by nuns
going up against the US Marines.

I'd pay to see that show.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:13:10 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
2hvoe5dt91m25n0htsfk2r7tnncsjqeb7f at (no spam) 4ax.com> wrote:

On 31 Oct 2009 03:11:45 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patrick at (no spam) io.com> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:08:42 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:59:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <address at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:

One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:

Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.

Why do you want to join church and state? That goes against the Bill of
Rights, and the entire purpose of America. What, are you an idiot?

We're trying to get you to clean up your act for the good of humankind and
children.

Shoving you permanently to the sidelines would be a good start.

Ain't gonna happen, west loop.


I hope not. You are the poster boy for what needs to be changed.

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:19:26 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote in alt.atheism:





On Nov 1, 1:26 pm, r... at (no spam) somis.org (•R.L.Measures) wrote:
In article
384231c6-0b6e-4b6f-a0f1-32e9fc08e... at (no spam) g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo

ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 1, 8:10=A0am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On 31 Oct 2009 19:54:04 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr... at (no spam) io.com> wrote:

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:17:37 -0500, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On 31 Oct 2009 03:37:47 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr... at (no spam) io.com> wro> >> > te:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:09:23 -0500, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2009 05:15:46 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr... at (no spam) io..com> w> >> > rote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:51:44 -0400, J <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.. This > >> > is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.

No, it won't, Junkie. =A0No News Now has never been known for being > >> > honest.
If there's an actual move towards that, I suggest the miscreants hav> >> > e the
Constitution shoved down their throats, whether they consent or not.

If you show inappropriate material on the public waves, you lose you> >> > r license to
operate.

So, you're going to go after Showtime/Cinemax/HBO, etc.? =A0Those are > >> > cable.
(I doubt you'd avoid all of them, malicious coward that you've been in> >> >  your
shoddy Usenet history.)

Special paid-for services.

I'm tired of atheist types despoiling our children in public.

Very few give a damn about your malignant mania, Dook. =A0It's time for > >> > the
Cathoholic "Church" to be permanently relegated.

The priesthood is already on the rise,

Nonsense.  The priesthood is down 34% in the US.

**  34% down from what Jimbo?

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Down from 100%     over 58,000 in 1965, and under 41,000 in 2007.
My memory was a bit too many, the actual decline has been 28%.

http://cara.georgetown.edu/bulletin/> has a lot of good data on this.
Their most interesting results are that they are only ordaining less
than 1.2% of priests per years -- far from enough to replace the current
levels. More importantly, they have lost two-thirds of the nuns they had
since 1965 and don't have enough parish priests to have even one per
parish. Sure, there were about 500 small ones in the '60s without
resident priests, but now the parishes without resident priests are
becoming bigger and are well over 3,000. The number of members per
parish priest has gone up 86% from 1269 to 2363. The RCC in the US has
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:48:42 -0700 (PDT), ed wolf <eduartw... at (no spam) gmx.net
wrote:



On 30 Okt., 05:51, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
-snip

Great idea, good reason!
Which church is suited best setting new standards for
obscenity? I think in a fair and open process churches
had to apply and state what makes them experts,
before they can join a National Commission for
Standardizing Obscenity. I suggest the commissions
first step should be an evaluation of personal offendability
with standardized material. Only if every citizen knows
his Offendability-Profile he/she can choose the registered
evaluated products according to the NCSO- Label.
( "not suitable for porn > 6 ; pc > 8 ; relgn ev >3 ;
relgn rc > 4;creatn > 6 ; GOP > 3 ")
eager to start working
ed

Interesting.  I'd go for one of the Hindu religions - OK so no more
McDonald's Quarter Pounders, but they have some damn fine carvings of
intercourse on their temples.
--

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:18:02 -0600, Mitchell Holman
noemail at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

duke <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in
news:jt7re5p9m90pmr8gatd7f00s9u4k8enn79 at (no spam) 4ax.com:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 09:10:17 +0000, Les Hellawell
les at (no spam) fakeaddress.com> wrote:

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:27:22 -0400, Attila <<prochoice at (no spam) here.now
wrote:

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:14:31 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
vhvoe592qu5d06godkfha5ssp35j28ooge at (no spam) 4ax.com> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:26:16 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo
ckdbigtoe at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 30, 8:09 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2009 05:15:46 GMT, The Chief Instigator
patr... at (no spam) io.com> wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:51:44 -0400, J <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com
wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.
This is one time when it will be necessary to join church
and state.

No, it won't, Junkie.  No News Now has never been known for
being honest. If there's an actual move towards that, I
suggest the miscreants have the Constitution shoved down their
throats, whether they consent or not.

If you show inappropriate material on the public waves, you
lose your license to operate.


If a church enables, protects, and provide pedophiles with new
victims, they should be disbanded, or at the very least have
their tax exempt status revoked.

Yet it was the Church, WE the people that make up the Body of
Christ, that insisted that the Bishops clean up the place.


It was more like your insurance carriers.

Duke's right, the parishioners made their feelings clear by
abandoning the church and walking away. Few will return.

ONly a few did. And the church continues to grow, and the
priesthood returns to growth with clean young and middle age men.

Fact check:

The Incredible Shrinking Catholic Church

Time magazine wanted to talk theology with Mel Gibson recently
on the set of The Passion, his new movie depicting the last
hours of Christ. Asked what he thought about the effects of the
Second Vatican Council on the Catholic Church, the Braveheart
of Catholic traditionalists said, "Look at the main fruits:
dwindling numbers and pedophilia."

The house has been cleaned.

Beyond a vague understanding of a need for "more vocations,"
most Catholics are perhaps unaware of the disaster facing the
American priesthood.

An overflow of priests available from other parts of the world.

After skyrocketing from about 27,000 in
1930 to 58,000 in 1965, the number of priests in the United
States dropped to 45,000 in 2002. By 2020, there will be about
31,000 priests--and only 15,000 will be under the age of 70,
according to a study conducted by Dr. James R. Lothian of
Fordham University.

An overflow of priests available from other parts of the world. And
the Americans in formation is increasing.

This is one time when it will be necessary to join church and state.

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:08:47 -0500, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/1/09 4:05 PM, * duke wrote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:08:18 -0800 (PST), Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 1, 8:04 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:22:20 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 31, 2:10 pm, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:25:13 -0700 (PDT), Jimbo <ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 30, 8:08 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:59:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
Why do you want to join church and state?  That goes against the Bill of
Rights, and the entire purpose of America.  What, are you an idiot?  
We're trying to get you to clean up your act
When you've cleaned up your act, then you can complain about mine..
Your back yard is filthy, and an obscenity.
Then you don't know my backyard,
I know your backyard, lying, pedophile loving earl.
Of course, you do.  You and fishboy are always vacationing there.  Probably
holding hands, or more.

You have
demonstrated that in post after post.   Your backyard is protecting
and enabling pedophile priests.
WE........
Bullshit earl, you are a known liar.

Name one time I lied.  You can't.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

You've repeatedly said that you can and have
produced real evidence that shows that a god exists.

Needless to say, you have never done so.

Yes I have.

 It's called the creation of the universe and all in it - from
nothingness into nothingness.

If you have a better answer, let's hear it.

Duke

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:33:53 -0800, r... at (no spam) somis.org (•R.L.Measures) wrote:
In article <fture55mm2oiv6c996359vu082qfin1... at (no spam) 4ax.com>, duke
duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:26:40 -0800, r... at (no spam) somis.org (•R.L.Measures) wrote:

In article
384231c6-0b6e-4b6f-a0f1-32e9fc08e... at (no spam) g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Jimbo
ckdbig... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 1, 8:10=A0am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On 31 Oct 2009 19:54:04 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr... at (no spam) io.com> wrote:

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:17:37 -0500, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On 31 Oct 2009 03:37:47 GMT, The Chief Instigator
patr... at (no spam) io.com> wro> >> >> te:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:09:23 -0500, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2009 05:15:46 GMT, The Chief Instigator
patr... at (no spam) io.com> w> >> >> rote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:51:44 -0400, J <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.
This > >> >> is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.

No, it won't, Junkie. =A0No News Now has never been known for
being > >> >> honest.
If there's an actual move towards that, I suggest the
miscreants hav> >> >> e the
Constitution shoved down their throats, whether they consent or not.

If you show inappropriate material on the public waves, you
lose you> >> >> r license to
operate.

So, you're going to go after Showtime/Cinemax/HBO, etc.?
=A0Those are > >> >> cable.
(I doubt you'd avoid all of them, malicious coward that you've
been in> >> >>  your
shoddy Usenet history.)

Special paid-for services.

I'm tired of atheist types despoiling our children in public.

Very few give a damn about your malignant mania, Dook. =A0It's
time for > >> >> the
Cathoholic "Church" to be permanently relegated.

The priesthood is already on the rise,

Nonsense.  The priesthood is down 34% in the US.

**  34% down from what Jimbo?

He has no idea.

•  and would you like mayo on that crow sandwich Earl?

One things for sure, rl, I don't eat crow sandwiches on this ng.

Duke