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THE FISHERMEN'S NET
Jesus spoke the parable of the fishermen's net in order to
teach his disciples that wicked Christians will be separated
from AMONG the just Christians on judgement day. He
said:
"Again, the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN is like unto a net,
that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
Which, when IT was full, they drew to shore, and sat down,
and gathered the GOOD into vessels, but cast the BAD
away. So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall
come forth and sever the WICKED from among the JUST,
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be
wailing and gnashing of
teeth."
Mat 13:47-50
That parable gave a dramatic warning to every Israelite
fisherman listening because from childhood he knew that
the Law of Moses classified fish into two categories; they
were either "clean" or "unclean". Part of his work as a
fisherman was sorting fish; when he saw a fish with scales
and fins, he would say "clean" to himself and would reject
every other fish as worthless.
Jesus was showing his disciples that both fish and believers
have two classifications. For example, fish are either clean
or unclean and believers are either wicked or just.
The parable of the drag net teaches us that from among the
MANY people who believe the gospel, only the FEW who
live holy lives will be chosen for eternal life. ("For many
are called but few are chosen." Mat 22:14)
Unfortunately, modern Christianity no longer teaches that
Christians who commit willful sin will be culled from the
kingdom of heaven. Instead, they have introduced the
Satanic lie that a carnal (sinning) Christian will be saved
from the "furnace of fire." Just as the serpent promised
Eve, they promise the sinner: "Ye shall not surely die"
when they tell them that a Christian who continues to break
the Ten Commandments will still have eternal life - if he
simply trusts in Christ.
This "Carnal Christian" heresy opposes Christ's teaching
by saying ALL believers commit willful sin - some more
than others (They are really saying here are no JUST
believers; only justified rebels.) Those who teach this
heresy say: "All believers will have eternal life because they
believe, however" ...they add, "the carnal Christian will lose
his rewards."
The truth is:
THE CARNAL CHRISTIAN WILL NOT ONLY LOSE
HIS REWARDS
HE WILL LOSE HIS SOUL!
This deadly doctrine of the saved "Carnal Christian" is
sweeping over Christendom like a plague and threatens the
spiritual life of every believer who accepts it. Yet, the
whole deception is based upon clever cliches, sophistries,
and the misuse of a few obscure statements of the
apostle Paul. Let's examine some clear statements of Paul
with an open mind. In his letter to the Corinthian church,
we read:
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the
kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of
themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor
drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the
kingdom of God." I Cor 6:9-10.
In that letter, Paul was addressing Christians and warning
them of a serious deception that was giving believers who
sin a false assurance of salvation. Obviously, that warning
did not apply to the masses of mankind who were
condemned already for their sin. No, Paul was warning the
"fish" inside the gospel net (who were all believers) that
their lives must be permanently changed to meet God's
standard for eternal life.
Without doubt, Jesus and Paul both say the carnal Christian
will perish in the final judgement. Paul's list of the
characteristics that identify an unrighteous person is enough
to condemn many of the professing church as a bunch of
unclean fish. In fact, some of the Christian TV "fish" are so
rotten even the world thinks they stink!
How are most of the clergy dealing with this dreadful
situation? Many pastors are simply "looking the other way"
instead of correcting, rebuking, or disciplining their
disobedient members. That is just another way of giving
sinning believers a false assurance of salvation. To put it
bluntly, many believers are being assisted toward the pile of
unclean fish by their own pastor's ignorance or negligence.
These pastors are not sent by God because God disciplines
and corrects those whom He loves. (Heb 12:6)
On the other hand, Paul is an example of a faithful
watchman. His messages against sin were like a trumpet's
piercing alarm. So piercing, that though they might not be
appreciated, they couldn't go unnoticed. The awakened
people could then prepare themselves for battle - the
war against the works of their own flesh. Fearlessly, Paul
sounded his warning: "they which do such things [the
works of the flesh] shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
See Gal 5:19-21.
....The carnal Christians of Rome knew they faced certain
spiritual death when Paul gave this warning:
"For if you live according to the flesh YOU WILL DIE,
but if by the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body
YOU WILL LIVE."
Romans 8:13.
Question: Who are those who "live according to the flesh"?
Answer: "For those who live according to the flesh SET THEIR
MINDS on the things of the flesh." Rom 8:5
Question: How do you recognize a mind that is set on the flesh?
Answer: "For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God;
IT DOES NOT SUBMIT TO GOD'S LAW." Rom 8:7
Question: What will happen to the mind that is set on the flesh and
will
not submit to God's law?
Answer: " To set the mind on the flesh IS DEATH." Rom 8:6
Here is a summary of what Paul said about carnal
Christians: Those who live according to the flesh are those
who do not submit to God's law and their end is eternal
DEATH!
BUT
"If by the Spirit you [Carnal Christians] put to death the
deeds of the body YOU WILL LIVE." Romans 8:13
Paul said: If by the power of the Holy Spirit, The Carnal
Christian will put to death (stop completely) the sinful
deeds of the body his end will
be eternal life.
As we examine those words of Paul, we must acknowledge
that the carnal Christian will perish on judgement day and
be tossed into the pile of unclean "fish." He offered no
hope to the Christian who did not cease from sin.
We need to ask ourselves: "What kind of a fish am I?"
Donna Kupp
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/show.php?i=630302&cat=0
The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
www.freetruth.info |
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:32 pm |
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:53:40 -0700 (PDT), Donna Kupp <dkupp at (no spam) charter.net> wrote:
Quote: THE FISHERMEN'S NET
Jesus spoke the parable of the fishermen's net in order to
teach his disciples that wicked Christians will be separated
from AMONG the just Christians on judgement day. He
said:
"Again, the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN is like unto a net,
that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
Which, when IT was full, they drew to shore, and sat down,
and gathered the GOOD into vessels, but cast the BAD
away. So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall
come forth and sever the WICKED from among the JUST,
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be
wailing and gnashing of
teeth."
Mat 13:47-50
That parable gave a dramatic warning to every Israelite
fisherman listening because from childhood he knew that
the Law of Moses classified fish into two categories; they
were either "clean" or "unclean". Part of his work as a
fisherman was sorting fish; when he saw a fish with scales
and fins, he would say "clean" to himself and would reject
every other fish as worthless.
Jesus was showing his disciples that both fish and believers
have two classifications. For example, fish are either clean
or unclean and believers are either wicked or just.
**************************************************************************************************
Quote: The parable of the drag net teaches us that from among the
MANY people who believe the gospel, only the FEW who
live holy lives will be chosen for eternal life. ("For many
are called but few are chosen." Mat 22:14)
here it is... the gospel of co-redemption, in which one first make themselves worthy
before they will be rewarded for their personal achievement with eternal life.
one must first " live holy lives " to " be chosen for eternal life. " exactly the
opposite of salvation by grace. this co-redemption idea means, of course, the criminal
crucified with Christ did not receive eternal life by Christ because he certainly didn't
" live a holy life " so as to make himself worthy to be that day in Paradise with the
Savior.
all those prostitutes spoken of as having been saved by Christ weren't living holy lives
so as to worthy themselves so as to invoke Christ to save them, either. oh no, we are to
believe they died in their sins because they didn't merit salvation.
huh. the four prophets saved as fetuses must also have died in their sins since they
weren't keeping any Law so as to merit eternal life.
Quote: Unfortunately, modern Christianity no longer teaches that
Christians who commit willful sin will be culled from the
kingdom of heaven. Instead, they have introduced the
Satanic lie that a carnal (sinning) Christian will be saved
from the "furnace of fire." Just as the serpent promised
Eve, they promise the sinner: "Ye shall not surely die"
when they tell them that a Christian who continues to break
the Ten Commandments will still have eternal life - if he
simply trusts in Christ.
here's a person wanting to be justified by the 10 Commandments all the while displaying
herself as a false witness breaking the very commandments this denomination supposes will
save them. this person admits they are not saved when she says " only FEW ( emotionally
driven shouting common to these people ) who live holy lives will be chosen for eternal
life. " redemption unto life starts in the here and now, Acts 13:48, on Judgement Day it
is too late.
Quote:
This "Carnal Christian" heresy opposes Christ's teaching
by saying ALL believers commit willful sin - some more
than others (They are really saying here are no JUST
believers; only justified rebels.) Those who teach this
heresy say: "All believers will have eternal life because they
believe, however" ...they add, "the carnal Christian will lose
his rewards."
The truth is:
THE CARNAL CHRISTIAN WILL NOT ONLY LOSE
HIS REWARDS
HE WILL LOSE HIS SOUL!
This deadly doctrine of the saved "Carnal Christian" is
sweeping over Christendom like a plague and threatens the
spiritual life of every believer who accepts it. Yet, the
whole deception is based upon clever cliches, sophistries,
and the misuse of a few obscure statements of the
apostle Paul. Let's examine some clear statements of Paul
with an open mind. In his letter to the Corinthian church,
we read:
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the
kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor
idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of
themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor
drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the
kingdom of God." I Cor 6:9-10.
In that letter, Paul was addressing Christians and warning
them of a serious deception that was giving believers who
sin a false assurance of salvation. Obviously, that warning
did not apply to the masses of mankind who were
condemned already for their sin. No, Paul was warning the
"fish" inside the gospel net (who were all believers) that
their lives must be permanently changed to meet God's
standard for eternal life.
the Bible does not say " who were all believers " at Corinth.
Quote:
Without doubt, Jesus and Paul both say the carnal Christian
will perish in the final judgement. Paul's list of the
characteristics that identify an unrighteous person is enough
to condemn many of the professing church as a bunch of
unclean fish. In fact, some of the Christian TV "fish" are so
rotten even the world thinks they stink!
How are most of the clergy dealing with this dreadful
situation? Many pastors are simply "looking the other way"
instead of correcting, rebuking, or disciplining their
disobedient members. That is just another way of giving
sinning believers a false assurance of salvation. To put it
bluntly, many believers are being assisted toward the pile of
unclean fish by their own pastor's ignorance or negligence.
These pastors are not sent by God because God disciplines
and corrects those whom He loves. (Heb 12:6)
here we have an amazing statement... God corrects those whom He loves... yet this whole
post is designed for co-redemption by personal achievement.
Quote:
On the other hand, Paul is an example of a faithful
watchman. His messages against sin were like a trumpet's
piercing alarm. So piercing, that though they might not be
appreciated, they couldn't go unnoticed. The awakened
people could then prepare themselves for battle - the
war against the works of their own flesh. Fearlessly, Paul
sounded his warning: "they which do such things [the
works of the flesh] shall not inherit the kingdom of God."
See Gal 5:19-21.
...The carnal Christians of Rome knew they faced certain
spiritual death when Paul gave this warning:
"For if you live according to the flesh YOU WILL DIE,
but if by the spirit you put to death the deeds of the body
YOU WILL LIVE."
Romans 8:13.
Question: Who are those who "live according to the flesh"?
Answer: "For those who live according to the flesh SET THEIR
MINDS on the things of the flesh." Rom 8:5
Question: How do you recognize a mind that is set on the flesh?
Quote:
Answer: "For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God;
IT DOES NOT SUBMIT TO GOD'S LAW." Rom 8:7
and that's why the elect are saved by the grace of God by the faith of Jesus Christ.
the elect do not glory in themselves as the Legalists who say... " look at me God, i'm
keeping the 10 Commandments, you owe me salvation. "
Quote:
Question: What will happen to the mind that is set on the flesh and
will
not submit to God's law?
Answer: " To set the mind on the flesh IS DEATH." Rom 8:6
Here is a summary of what Paul said about carnal
Christians: Those who live according to the flesh are those
who do not submit to God's law and their end is eternal
DEATH!
BUT
"If by the Spirit you [Carnal Christians] put to death the
deeds of the body YOU WILL LIVE." Romans 8:13
Paul said: If by the power of the Holy Spirit, The Carnal
Christian will put to death (stop completely) the sinful
deeds of the body his end will
be eternal life.
As we examine those words of Paul, we must acknowledge
that the carnal Christian will perish on judgement day and
be tossed into the pile of unclean "fish." He offered no
hope to the Christian who did not cease from sin.
We need to ask ourselves: "What kind of a fish am I?"
Donna Kupp
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/show.php?i=630302&cat=0
The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
www.freetruth.info
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