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| Timothy Sutter... |
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| you have the ability to love YHWH. |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:21 am |
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Quote: you have the ability to love YHWH
don't put your self on a ledge and worship it |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:29 am |
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Quote: you have the ability to love YHWH
don't put your self on a ledge and worship it
you become good as you admire YHWH |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:33 am |
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you can love YHWH
don't worship your self
admire YHWH and become good
this is all within your reach... |
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| peterrabbit455 at (no spam) gmail.com... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:58 am |
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On Oct 29, 7:55 am, Timothy Sutter <a202... at (no spam) lycos.com-> wrote:
Quote: you can love YHWH
don't worship your self
admire YHWH and become good
this is all within your reach...
YHWH is this major goodie goodie
that -can- devastate you
but, sort of like, YHWH wouldn't devastate you
because YHWH had a fear of you, or because
YHWH wanted to take your property from you,
because YHWH had some personal need,
but because of a pervasive error from justice,
on -your- part,
and even then, YHWH does not =have to= devastate you
and you could turn around
and see a blessing,
but it's not like YHWH can -not- devastate you
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are you by definition "bad" if you don't love YHWY? |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:51 am |
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Quote: you can love YHWH
don't worship your self
admire YHWH and become good
this is all within your reach...
YHWH is this major goodie goodie
that -can- devestate you
but, sort of like, YHWH wouldn't devestate you
because YHWH had a fear of you, or because
YHWH wanted to take your property from you,
because YHWH had some personal need,
but because of a pervasive error from justice,
on -your- part,
and even then, YHWH does not =have to= devestate you
and you could turn around
and see a blessing,
but it's not like YHWH can -not- devestate you
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:54 am |
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Quote: but it's not like YHWH can -not- devestate you
yeah yeah yeah, "devastate" |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:55 am |
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Quote: you can love YHWH
don't worship your self
admire YHWH and become good
this is all within your reach...
YHWH is this major goodie goodie
that -can- devastate you
but, sort of like, YHWH wouldn't devastate you
because YHWH had a fear of you, or because
YHWH wanted to take your property from you,
because YHWH had some personal need,
but because of a pervasive error from justice,
on -your- part,
and even then, YHWH does not =have to= devastate you
and you could turn around
and see a blessing,
but it's not like YHWH can -not- devastate you |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:59 am |
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Quote: Timothy Sutter wrote:
you can love YHWH
don't worship your self
admire YHWH and become good
this is all within your reach...
someone asked:
Quote: are you by definition "bad" if you don't love YHWY?
if you mean; YHWH
no
but, you can be better than good and still be good
good --> better --> best --> good -->...--> God
good being a very broad term
one may be 'good' and potentially better without knowing YHWH
if one supposes that they know YHWH and despises YHWH
we'd probably say, first, that they didn't really know YHWH
and that their attitude stemmed from some other knowledge of self,
and this could be rectified through actual knowledge of YHWH.
so, it's really -difficult- to see condemnation
but, unfruitful aspects are to be pruned and pared away
progressing towards the most pure state,
and we'd say, that this most pure state
can only be arrived at, with
the leading and encouragement
of YHWH's own presence,
inasmuch as YHWH Be
that ultimate purity
and so, to love YHWH
is to drive towards this most pure state
whwereas, not knowing YHWH,
cannot take you to this most pure state,
but is not, in itself, reason for condemnation.
we'd say that the prospect of gaining and maintaining knowledge of YHWH
is still available
and progression towards "Godliness"
can start from a 'good' ignorance
a -belligerent- _attitude_ towards YHWH
is doomed to failure
but, still, can be rectified
albeit, there will very likely be more unfruitful bits
that need to be pared away and this may seem uncomfortable
and even painful as they are, pared away.
but yes, we'd say that even "good people"
can benefit greatly from a clear knowledge of YHWH
if you can find these so-called "good people"
who do -not- know YHWH
where, once again, "good" is a very broad term...
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:21 pm |
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Quote: but, you can be better than good and still be good
good --> better --> best --> good -->...--> God
so, take the joint chiefs of staff
strip them of all rank
and send them through boot camp
and, if they turn out better or fail,
then, their rank will be affected,
and so, like, YHWH God,
strips YHWH of all rank
and sends YHWH through this 'process'
and, sees "perfectioning"
and, finds that YHWH is still the same, YHWH
thereby formally demonstrating that YHWH =BE= God
and there be no 'other'
human being --process-> pass/fail
YHWH --process-> YHWH
which is how we can say that Jesus was
"perfected through sufferings"
and yet, be;
"the same yesterday, today and forever"
as; "the root -and- offspring of David"
it's a clear demonstration of YHWH's
"preeminence in all things"
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:37 pm |
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Quote: but, you can be better than good and still be good
good --> better --> best --> good -->...--> God
so, take the joint chiefs of staff
strip them of all rank
and send them through boot camp
and, if they turn out better or fail,
then, their rank will be affected,
Quote: and so, like, YHWH God,
strips YHWH of all rank
remembering, that, when Jesus came as Davidic scion
Judea was a subject people, under the dominion
of another Prince, the Prince of Rome.
Quote: and sends YHWH through this 'process'
and, sees "perfectioning"
and, finds that YHWH is still the same, YHWH
thereby formally demonstrating that YHWH =BE= God
and there be no 'other'
human being --process-> pass/fail
YHWH --process-> YHWH
which is how we can say that Jesus was
"perfected through sufferings"
and yet, be;
"the same yesterday, today and forever"
as; "the root -and- offspring of David"
it's a clear demonstration of YHWH's
"preeminence in all things" |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:44 am |
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Quote: YHWH --process-> YHWH
which is how we can say that Jesus was
"perfected through sufferings"
and yet, be;
"the same yesterday, today and forever"
as; "the root -and- offspring of David"
it's a clear demonstration of YHWH's
"preeminence in all things"
even if YHWH, itself, is some sort of focused impression of The Deity |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:27 am |
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Quote: YHWH --process-> YHWH
which is how we can say that Jesus was
"perfected through sufferings"
and yet, be;
"the same yesterday, today and forever"
as; "the root -and- offspring of David"
it's a clear demonstration of YHWH's
"preeminence in all things"
even if YHWH, itself, is some sort of focused impression of The Deity
and so, to present the inexpressible characteristic...
forever falling in love
YHWH is the surface
YHWH is the undisclosed depth
and somehow, we can and will experience
a perfected knowledge of the inexpressible characteristic
when we see as we are seen
and know as we are known
a most direct impression
a shared being
YHWH
The Word of God
some sort of impression of the inexpressible characteristic
the Light of Love
the infinitessimal point
the sublime Deity
the neverending cycle of romance
stop
ever beginning
always new
always the same
YHWH
and so, to present the inexpressible characteristic...
being within reach |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:39 am |
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Quote: even if YHWH, itself, is some sort of focused impression of The Deity
like, you could wander through the bible
and everywhere you see "YHWH" [LORD] see "Jesus"
and not be further from the truth
but actually closer to the truth.
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Isaiah 60:16
You shall drink the milk of the Gentiles,
And milk the breast of kings; You shall
know that I, YHWH, am your Savior And
your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.
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where "Jesus" means "YHWH Savior"
they're practically the same thing.
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Hebrews 1:3
who being the brightness of His glory
and the express image of His person...
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and so, recursively, YHWH, [itself]...
....is some sort of focused impression of The Deity
and like, you could see Jesus and not see all of that which Jesus is
Angels of Light, could 'see' YHWH and
not comprehend all that is "God"
but some of -them- see this fullness of Deity
in and through Jesus, and subsequently,
the christian building blocks,
living stones, the "church" of God.
so, it's strange
not a 'different' God
like putting on a cloak
that doesn't -hide- who you are,
but tends to manifest
the inexpressible characteristic
where, for YHWH God
that 'cloak' is the Lamb of God
which is Glorified
"hosanna"
sort of wore the flesh like a coat
but the coat was a living being
a stamped impression of a stamped impression
Glorified
and Be now One |
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| Timothy Sutter... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:01 am |
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Quote: ==
Isaiah 60:16
You shall drink the milk of the Gentiles,
And milk the breast of kings; You shall
know YHWH Savior Redeemer,
the Mighty One of Jacob.
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Hebrews 1:3
who being the brightness of His glory
and the express image of His person...
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"Jesus" is like "YHWH's" 'costume'
and YHWH is sort of like The Eternal Deity's 'costume'
but sort of like, when you start ripping off the 'costumes'
you see the same thing, underneath
-that's- when you know it's GOD
"i'll be going as the invisible man,
you may not see me, but i'll be there" |
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