the idea that human being's are born immortal is an idea coming from
ancient Greek philosophical thought which some folks carried into
their interpretation of the Bible.

we start by recognizing that the unbeliever is already dead in his soul.  Eph. 2:1; 4:18;
Col. 2:13.  this is very important... not keeping this at the forefront in our minds will
lead to Platonism... the Greek philosophical idea that man is immortal from which an
eternal burning hell is derived.

the doctrine of the Bible concerning eternal damnation is simply this... " the wages of
sin is death... " ( Ro. 6:23 )  death is defined in this Bible word as " completed and
absolute separation from God for all eternity. "  it does not define continuous,
conscience torment forever in a place called " hell " because that idea comes from secular
philosopher's, not God.  it is eternal in that there is no second hope to become saved; it
is punishment because the wages of sin is death.

Christ's physical life was terminated at His physical death. the wages of sin is death;
the penalty for the sins of men is death which Christ endured on behalf of His elect
ones. He did not go into a place of conscience, agonizing, eternal torment to pay for
the sins of His elect ones because the wages of sin is death. and so Christ paid that
penalty; death.

The Christ of OMJ never paid the full penalty of sin for anyone (the
first _and_ second deaths),
and thus could not and did not deliver anyone from eternal hell.

"1 - There is not one shred of EVIDENCE any such figure as Jesus
Christ
of Galilee or anyplace else ever existed. "

Then your opinion is out of step with the vast majority of scholars on
the subject, be they believers or not. This is one of the continuing
urban myths among atheists which finds no support among those academic
areas which consider the historical question.. Perhaps some 40 or so
years ago it would have found some traction among them, no longer
except
for a tiny fringe group who are mostly ignored.

The references to astrology were comical, the basic truth claims of
astrology can not be sustained.

"1 - There is not one shred of EVIDENCE any such figure as Jesus
Christ
of Galilee or anyplace else ever existed. "

Then your opinion is out of step with the vast majority of scholars on
the subject, be they believers or not. This is one of the continuing
urban myths among atheists which finds no support among those academic
areas which consider the historical question.. Perhaps some 40 or so
years ago it would have found some traction among them, no longer
except
for a tiny fringe group who are mostly ignored.

The references to astrology were comical, the basic truth claims of
astrology can not be sustained.

"The astrological facts may be tested from Dec 22 to 25 in a few
weeks.
You'll find them as solid as I did."

Do you really want to appear to support astrology or were you clumsy
in
confusing the meaning of astrology and astronomy?

"The "vast majority of scholars" are mostly clerics of the Catholic
Church...or scholars writing books for fun and profit. Am I close?"

Not close by far, only demonstrating a basic ignorance on the academic
areas and who writes on the subject. It appears you haven't a clue,
but
well prepared to join in singing the chorus of the urban myth of the
atheist choir on the topic.

One ignorant on a topic can make oneself an instant expert, not being
constrained by the facts.

"The "vast majority of scholars" are mostly clerics of
the Cathol

Church...or scholars writing books for fun and profit. Am I close?"

Not close by far, only demonstrating a basic ignorance on the academic
areas and who writes on the subject. It appears you haven't a clue,
but
well prepared to join in singing the chorus of the urban myth of the
atheist choir on the topic.

One ignorant on a topic can make oneself an instant expert, not being
constrained by the facts.