On Oct 24, 3:00 pm, "1X2Willows" wrote:
Byrne.M.James wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:36 pm, Noinden wrote:

Ok I am going to remind you again James. “Injun” is not a popular
way to interact with the First Nations. I would prefer you limit
the slurs. I really don’t want alt.native coming here again!

Noinden man you've been arguing that tradition doesnt count and you
left land stolen from Mauri's to live on land stolen from 'injuns'.

Land stolen by newcomers from an indigenous population who was
already there? You're funny. If you go by your own pagan myth as an
Irishman, you will find that the very same applies to you.

Only that every rabid supremacist and their dog now pretends to be
of the "original stock" and heaven forbid not of celtic descent and
this in spite of all that red hair and those freckles and the
moon-faced physique with them buggy eyes which various invaders
brought with them.

But no, they're deemed oh so "typical" nowadays. No source for shame
or even self-reflection but a matter of 'national pride'. What a
laugh. So which one is it now? Make up your mind.

Dan sadly he is one of the luddites who thinks the Irish have always
been there. He also does not care to study the genetic vs cultural
arguments that should be applied.

On Oct 25, 6:43 pm, "1X2Willows" wrote:
Byrne.M.James wrote:

Thanks Dan, that was loads of information!

Let's say I take that as a positive response and you're welcome.

Since you seem to appreciate this sort of information about the
transitional stage between 'Paganism' and Christianity, my own field
of expertise, kind of, I'll be happy to provide some more
translations/interpretations from this article which may be of
interest.

612 was also the year when the "White Monks" as they were dubbed by
the population got formally expelled from the territory. By that
time, they had gotten themselves deemed "unbearable" by large parts
of the community, mostly because of the zealous nature of Columban's
missionary work.

He himself had to move on and after an odyssey though Gallia
Transalpina where he wasn't received any more favourable, ended up
in Bobbio south
of the Alps (modern Apennin/Italy) and 614 founded his famous
monastery there. King Agilulf donated the ruined Church of Peter for
this cause, which lay on the slopes close to the Trebbia between
Genova and Milan. One year later, Columban died and his Christian
Mission which, in spirit, originated in Italy came full turn by
ending in Italy again.

So much for converting them Pagans out in the countryside North of
the Alps, regardless of so-called nobility of the time declaring
themselves Christian for political gain.

Ah yeah, next contender in the area: Some lad named Pirmin, this
time not Irish but said to have been Celtiberian. Guess what. Xtian
legend has it "He drove all the snakes from the island!" when he set
foot on it and established the Mittelzell cloister there amidst the
big bad pagans who needed saving or so the Jesus Cult thought. Only
this time, the island is Reichenau and the year is 724, so now,
we're already in the 8th Century.

See where I'm getting with this?

Even in Jolly old England, Paganism had a foothold that persisted well
into the early Medieval period, as is documented by the various laws
prohibiting Pagan rites and practices:

"As in remote places and in woodlands there stand certain stones which
the people often worship and at which vows are made, and to which
obligations are presented - we decree that they all be cast down and
concealed in such a place that their worshippers may not find them.
' Council of Nantes, 658 A.D.

"If anyone at the kalends of January goes about as a stag or a bull;
that is, making himself into a wild animal and dressing in the skin of
a herd animal, and putting on the heads of beasts; those who in such
wise transform themselves into the appearance of a wild animal,
penance for three years because this is devilish." - 7th century Liber
Poenitentialis of Theodore

"We enjoin, that every priest zealously promote Christianity, and
totally extinguish every heathenism; and forbid well worshipings, and
necromancies, and divinations, and enchantments, and man worshipings,
and the vain practices which are carried on with various spells, and
with "frithsplots", and with elders, and also with various other
trees, and with stones, and with many various delusions, with which
men do much of what they should not.--And we enjoin, that every
Christian man zealously accustom his children to Christianity, and
teach them the Paternoster and the Creed. And we enjoin, that on feast
days heathen songs and devil's games be abstained from." - The
Ecclesiastical canons of King Edgar, 10th century.

"We earnestly forbid every heathenism: heathenism is, that men worship
idols; that is, that they worship heathen gods, and the sun or the
moon, fire or rivers, water-wells or stones, or forest trees of any
kind; or love witchcraft, or promote morth-work in any wise." - The
11th century Laws of King Cnut

On Oct 25, 3:38 pm, "1X2Willows" wrote:

Sounds already a lot more realistic than your former version. Room
for improvement? Yeah always. But keep this up, stick with it for the
next dozen years or so and the damage done to your own reputation as well
as the record of your whole family by proxy should be forgotten by then.

Nah, you're just begining to discover that I'm not the great and
terrible boogey-man that you and others of your sort have tried to
portray me as being. I am who I am, who I always was, and who I always
will be. The winter frost withers the vine whether I am around or not.
Scape-goats are a convenient spectacle for hypocrisy to use as a
distraction.

But only for a vocal few on ARD, Akins, the vast majority on ARD are
decent Americans, alas they have been driven away by a tiny element
led by Dan Willows Felber ( Swiss-German) and his minion Noinden
( New Zealander) , aided and abbetted by such ignorant loud mouthed
Thicko''s that as Felber can arrange and organise here from time to
time, wasting everybodyy's time , especially their own.

Cheers,
Michael.

An Coibhi Drui wrote:

But only for a vocal few on ARD, Akins, the vast majority on ARD are
decent Americans, alas they have been driven away by a tiny element
led by Dan Willows Felber ( Swiss-German) and his minion Noinden
( New Zealander) , aided and abbetted by such ignorant loud mouthed
Thicko''s that as Felber can arrange and organise here from time to
time, wasting everybodyy's time , especially their own.

Cheers,
Michael.

I am humiliated by attestation of such powers from Your High and Mighty
Worship the ArchCuldee of Ireland. Hmm..must be doing something right.

Geez, Dan, you know a lot more about Christianity than I do, fair dues
to you, you must have been a really studious, diligent and dutiful
Protestant .

On Oct 25, 3:10 am, "1X2Willows" wrote:

Ah, if you call the fifty Million Euros or what that was from the
land sale to the M3 project "well earned good fortune"... what can
we say. Different takes on the nature of reason once more, I suppose.

I wouldn't wait for a penny in Judas money from your handlers though,
but I'm sure they will remunerate appropriatly with a preferred spot
in the Catholic grave yard for such a virtuous follower as you have
proven yourself to be.

:-)

Martin Drohan ( Ard Drui Mairtin O'Druachain) , you must be
mistaken ! Martin Drohan inherited a town house from his mother, plus
27,000 Euro. He then swapped that with the County Council for a modest
house out in Dunbell plus 31,000 Euro, he also received 4000 Euro from
his mother while she was alive plus free board & lodging. So, you're
obviously talking through your hat ! ( as usual) .

"1X2Willows" wrote
An Coibhi Drui wrote:

But only for a vocal few on ARD, Akins, the vast majority on ARD are
decent Americans, alas they have been driven away by a tiny element
led by Dan Willows Felber ( Swiss-German) and his minion Noinden
( New Zealander) , aided and abbetted by such ignorant loud mouthed
Thicko''s that as Felber can arrange and organise here from time to
time, wasting everybodyy's time , especially their own.

I am humiliated by attestation of such powers from Your High and
Mighty Worship the ArchCuldee of Ireland. Hmm..must be doing
something right.

And *if* these HUGE numbers of people had really existed on ARD and
*were* so easily run off, they're a bunch of spineless wimps that
Druidry doesn't need anyway.

Funny that he's using the "nameless others" strategy as laid out in
Searles' favorite Druid Cult Management Manual, "Antagonists in the
Church" by Kenneth C. Haugk.

Guess he forgot they were all supposed to flock over to ARD-lite and
never showed up.

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On Oct 24, 3:00 pm, "1X2Willows" <nos... at (no spam) least.invalid> wrote:





Byrne.M.James wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:36 pm, Noinden wrote:

Ok I am going to remind you again James. “Injun” is not a popular way
to interact with the First Nations. I would prefer you limit the
slurs. I really don’t want alt.native coming here again!

Noinden man you've been arguing that tradition doesnt count and you
left land stolen from Mauri's to live on land stolen from 'injuns'.

Land stolen by newcomers from an indigenous population who was
already there? You're funny. If you go by your own pagan myth as an
Irishman, you will find that the very same applies to you.

Only that every rabid supremacist and their dog now pretends to be
of the "original stock" and heaven forbid not of celtic descent and this
in spite of all that red hair and those freckles and the moon-faced
physique with them buggy eyes which various invaders brought with them.

But no, they're deemed oh so "typical" nowadays. No source for shame
or even self-reflection but a matter of 'national pride'. What a laugh.
So which one is it now? Make up your mind.

Dan sadly he is one of the luddites who thinks the Irish have always
been there. He also does not care to study the genetic vs cultural
arguments that should be applied.- Hide quoted text -

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On Oct 26, 1:15 pm, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Oct 24, 3:00 pm, "1X2Willows" <nos... at (no spam) least.invalid> wrote:

Byrne.M.James wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:36 pm, Noinden wrote:

Ok I am going to remind you again James. “Injun” is not a popular way
to interact with the First Nations. I would prefer you limit the
slurs. I really don’t want alt.native coming here again!

Noinden man you've been arguing that tradition doesnt count and you
left land stolen from Mauri's to live on land stolen from 'injuns'.

Land stolen by newcomers from an indigenous population who was
already there? You're funny. If you go by your own pagan myth as an
Irishman, you will find that the very same applies to you.

Only that every rabid supremacist and their dog now pretends to be
of the "original stock" and heaven forbid not of celtic descent and this
in spite of all that red hair and those freckles and the moon-faced
physique with them buggy eyes which various invaders brought with them.

But no, they're deemed oh so "typical" nowadays. No source for shame
or even self-reflection but a matter of 'national pride'. What a laugh.
So which one is it now? Make up your mind.

Dan sadly he is one of the luddites who thinks the Irish have always
been there. He also does not care to study the genetic vs cultural
arguments that should be applied.- Hide quoted text -

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Irish is a matter of culture not of genetics Dr. G.
Theres been a distinct culture on the island from the neolithic, if
not earlier, that could be defined as Irish by virtue of its existance
on the Island of Ireland and nowhere else. Being from Ireland I
wouldnt deny that newgrange is Irish and I think its true to say that
'the Irish' have always been here. Being from abroad youre entitled to
have an academic opinion on cultural traditions but nothing puts you
or anyone else in the position of saying that a peoples tradition is
right or wrong. Its a very colonial way of looking at the world.

Ive never been called a luddite before. I'll have to look it up.
ARD is like insult word a day toilet paper.- Hide quoted text -

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On Oct 26, 1:15 pm, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Oct 24, 3:00 pm, "1X2Willows" <nos... at (no spam) least.invalid> wrote:

Byrne.M.James wrote:
On Oct 23, 9:36 pm, Noinden wrote:

Ok I am going to remind you again James. “Injun” is not a popular way
to interact with the First Nations. I would prefer you limit the
slurs. I really don’t want alt.native coming here again!

Noinden man you've been arguing that tradition doesnt count and you
left land stolen from Mauri's to live on land stolen from 'injuns'.

Land stolen by newcomers from an indigenous population who was
already there? You're funny. If you go by your own pagan myth as an
Irishman, you will find that the very same applies to you.

Only that every rabid supremacist and their dog now pretends to be
of the "original stock" and heaven forbid not of celtic descent and this
in spite of all that red hair and those freckles and the moon-faced
physique with them buggy eyes which various invaders brought with them.

But no, they're deemed oh so "typical" nowadays. No source for shame
or even self-reflection but a matter of 'national pride'. What a laugh.
So which one is it now? Make up your mind.

Dan sadly he is one of the luddites who thinks the Irish have always
been there. He also does not care to study the genetic vs cultural
arguments that should be applied.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Irish is a matter of culture not of genetics Dr. G.
Theres been a distinct culture on the island from the neolithic, if
not earlier, that could be defined as Irish by virtue of its existance
on the Island of Ireland and nowhere else. Being from Ireland I
wouldnt deny that newgrange is Irish and I think its true to say that
'the Irish' have always been here. Being from abroad youre entitled to
have an academic opinion on cultural traditions but nothing puts you
or anyone else in the position of saying that a peoples tradition is
right or wrong. Its a very colonial way of looking at the world.

Ive never been called a luddite before. I'll have to look it up.
ARD is like insult word a day toilet paper.- Hide quoted text -

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An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Oct 28, 8:59 pm, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 3:38 pm, An Coibhi Drui
photographerofkilke... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

On Oct 28, 12:15 pm, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 28, 12:03 am, Sizzle Flambé <sizzle.fla... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

On Oct 23, 5:14 pm, An Coibhi Drui
photographerofkilke... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

Of course !  This is exactly what separates me and my kind
from that
half-caste Maori in Milwaukee

Ethnically and geographically off. I think since June it's
been
"Scot in Syracuse".

I'm only visiting that on a semi regular basis. I am NOT leaving
a
stable job to job hunt in the Pharma industry But a good
lable none
the less

 Yes, I heard that you recently got a casual job cleaning out a
stable
on a regular basis - at least you are showing some initiative by
going
to work at last - unlike Dan who has degenerated so far that he is
unemployable by now .

Cheers,
Michael .

Wow you must be more addled than I thought. I've been going to work
longer than you have been posting here.

Whatever, I like to see a man rehabilitating himself by work, it's the
best way, the works of Gurdjieff of whom I am a great fan, should be
useful to you in your re-training and rehabilitation, I recommend them
throroughly to you.

Cheers,
Michael .

Funny I worked right through my thesis an ever since I don't need
retraining. You however as a life long leech of the social welfare
system could do with some.- Hide quoted text -

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An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Oct 28, 9:25 pm, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
An Coibhi Drui <photographerofkilke... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 28, 8:59 pm, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 3:38 pm, An Coibhi Drui
photographerofkilke... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

On Oct 28, 12:15 pm, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 28, 12:03 am, Sizzle Flambé <sizzle.fla... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

On Oct 23, 5:14 pm, An Coibhi Drui
photographerofkilke... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

Of course !  This is exactly what separates me and my
kind
from that
half-caste Maori in Milwaukee

Ethnically and geographically off. I think since June it's
been
"Scot in Syracuse".

I'm only visiting that on a semi regular basis. I am NOT
leaving
a
stable job to job hunt in the Pharma industry But a good
lable none
the less

 Yes, I heard that you recently got a casual job cleaning out
a
stable
on a regular basis - at least you are showing some initiative
by
going
to work at last - unlike Dan who has degenerated so far that
he is
unemployable by now .

Cheers,
Michael .

Wow you must be more addled than I thought. I've been going to
work
longer than you have been posting here.

Whatever, I like to see a man rehabilitating himself by work, it's
the
best way, the works of Gurdjieff of whom I am a great fan, should
be
useful to you in your re-training and rehabilitation, I recommend
them
throroughly to you.

Cheers,
Michael .

Funny I worked right through my thesis an ever since I don't need
retraining. You however as a life long leech of the social welfare
system could do with some.- Hide quoted text -

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As a business professional, I would be arrested if I claimed sociial
welfare - but  leave that to the Polish welfare touriists here !

Cheers,
Michael .

PS : But, like my family, I contribute toowards the welfare systtem
here through my taxes !

Keep telling us that George. But we all know you are a proven and
admitted liar. You even said Sizzle was a navy officer.- Hide quoted text -

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Byrne.M.James wrote:

[....]
There seem to be druids here that view themselves as having a
globalised function for good or bad and they dont favour tradition at all.

Kinda' odd but I can't think of a single person in here who would fit the
description. Ole Zeke Krahlin maybe? Naah not even him. Even he
goes by a tradition which is at least as old as Stuckley's library.