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| Patrick... |
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:22 am |
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"Sockie" <Sockie-1995 at (no spam) Socksland.com> wrote ...
Quote: "Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
They eventually did and the world didn't end. No church can claim they
have 100% correct interpretation of scripture.
Yet, many do make that claim.
Of course they do. They want converts. That doesn't mean it's true.
I didn't say it was.
And, the RCC doesn't make that claim today.
Quote: As it was,
once the bible became available to more and more, then more people
disagreed with an interpretation for their own greedy sakes.
Their own greedy sakes? Where did you get that one from?
Jim Bakker, Oral Roberts, LDS, JW's, Benny Hinn and many more.
All con-men and of no importance when millions people are considered. Once
the read the bible for themselves they realized how they'd been conned by
the RCC.
Not at all.
These people merely made up shit for themselves so they could
justify certain actions they wished to take.
Quote: Why should people only have ONE interpretation to consider, especially
when they are starting to chaff at the RCC's grip on them, and the
bleeding of their finances?
Especially when what?
You don't know the history of your church in Europe?
Discuss "RCC grip" on them.
And "bleeding" of their finances.....
You make it sound like a vast desertion of the church.
That will only last as long as there is no 9-11 happening to them.
They'll be back. And.... God is watching men use their free wills.
Quote: Good Golly, Miss Molly, you are full of hate....
Truth is not hate despite what your church teaches you.
You see mountain, I see molehill.
You want to create a crisis to worry about. I do not.
You want to claim victory after speeding a few blocks and
you didn't get a speeding ticket. I merely laugh at you.
Quote: Look
at Henry VIII. He wanted to ditch a wife, so he made up his own
church that would allow him to do so.
Meanwhile the church was making fast money selling indulgences. Buy your
salvation for X amount of $$$.
I didn't buy any.
I don't know anyone who has ever bought any.
Are you lloking to buy or to sell?
LOL!!!! Your church leaders were exposed by Martin Luther. They were
forced to stop selling salvation (indulgences).
Wow.
2000 years of history, billions of humans in the RCC, and you come
up with a reference that happened a few hundred years ago? Good
for you. Would you like to learn more about some "baaad" catholics?
Quote: By the way you post I can see you barely made the 8th or 9th grade. You
can't even speak English correctly.
I merely speak down to those who can't comprehend the
importance of being lucid and factual. When I speak down
to you, I am merely reminding you that your cacaphony is getting
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:24 am |
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"Sockie" <Sockie-1995 at (no spam) Socksland.com> wrote
Quote: I'm not claiming to save people if they convert to my religion - the RRC
leaders are! I can't believe how uneducated and dense you are.
Please provide some sort of reference on this -
say within the last 50 years........
Quote: Dummy.... the bible itself warns us about amulets, trinkets and other such
pagan type nonsense. Had you read the bible for yourself, you would know
this. LOL!!!
Read my other post to you on vestments, if that is what
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:23 am |
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"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Sockie" <Sockie-1995 at (no spam) Socksland.com> wrote ...
"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
They eventually did and the world didn't end. No church can claim they
have 100% correct interpretation of scripture.
Yet, many do make that claim.
Of course they do. They want converts. That doesn't mean it's true.
I didn't say it was.
And, the RCC doesn't make that claim today.
As it was,
once the bible became available to more and more, then more people
disagreed with an interpretation for their own greedy sakes.
Their own greedy sakes? Where did you get that one from?
Jim Bakker, Oral Roberts, LDS, JW's, Benny Hinn and many more.
All con-men and of no importance when millions people are considered.
Once the read the bible for themselves they realized how they'd been
conned by the RCC.
Not at all.
These people merely made up shit for themselves so they could
justify certain actions they wished to take.
What people? Those tortured and slaughtered by your church leaders?
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You don't know the history of your church in Europe?
Discuss "RCC grip" on them.
And "bleeding" of their finances.....
Look it up for yourself. Why do you think people (Cathars in this case) in
Europe rejected the RCC?
Quote: You make it sound like a vast desertion of the church.
14,000 people in one town alone was a considerable number.... now multiply
that number of towns by the hundreds.
Quote: That will only last as long as there is no 9-11 happening to them.
They'll be back. And.... God is watching men use their free wills.
They will never be back now that they're learning the TRUTH about the RCC.
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Good Golly, Miss Molly, you are full of hate....
Truth is not hate despite what your church teaches you.
You see mountain, I see molehill.
And I see the TRUTH.
Quote: You want to create a crisis to worry about. I do not.
You want to claim victory after speeding a few blocks and
you didn't get a speeding ticket. I merely laugh at you.
You laugh because of your utter ignorance. Laughing is all a fool can do.
:-)
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I didn't buy any.
I don't know anyone who has ever bought any.
Are you lloking to buy or to sell?
LOL!!!! Your church leaders were exposed by Martin Luther. They were
forced to stop selling salvation (indulgences).
Wow.
More history you didn't know? Why am I not surprised?
Quote: 2000 years of history, billions of humans in the RCC, and you come
up with a reference that happened a few hundred years ago? Good
for you. Would you like to learn more about some "baaad" catholics?
A free education is right at your fingertips. Google is your friend.
Quote:
By the way you post I can see you barely made the 8th or 9th grade. You
can't even speak English correctly.
I merely speak down to those who can't comprehend the
importance of being lucid and factual.
When I speak down
to you, I am merely reminding you that your cacaphony is getting
just a bit loud.
You don't know how to speak down to people as your churchmen have tried to
teach you. You just write as an uneducated immature person writes because
it's all you can do.
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| Sockie... |
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:39 am |
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"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Sockie" <Sockie-1995 at (no spam) Socksland.com> wrote ...
"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
Perhaps you have a learning disability, sluggo.
They were your words sweetie pie.
Yes.... Let me state it again:
Perhaps you have a learning disability, sluggo.
Perhaps you have a learning disability, honey bunch since YOU said it.
LOL!!!
Quote: No one said you did. Perhaps you have a learning disability sweetie pie.
If you/they feel no one should read the bible cover to cover then
you/they have something to hide.
I don't care how you read it, sluggo.
Just don't tell me how I didn't read it.
You can't even write a lucid sentence.
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Because the bible, as written is open to many interpretations. It also
freed millions from the grip of the RCC.
And your point is...........?
Can you name a few people who were freed (by the bible) from
the Roman Catholic Church?
Google is your friend or ask your church for lists of those who have left
starting before the Inquisition. Surely they have lists of the names of
those they tortured and murdered, including the names of the women and
children.
Quote: Please provide examples.
Name those who weren't? Please provide examples.
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Because someone decided he had a better understanding of it.
What are you, .... stupid?
Why do you resort to such childish statements? Does it feed your ego?
Build your self esteem sweetie poo?
Yawn
It would have been easy to snip yer crap, .... but why?
Yer? Is that how the priests taught you to communicate?
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OK.
Now what?
Who did nothing?
I didn't hear you, sluggo.....
Sweetie poopsie, the cardinals, bishops etc *ADMITTED* they did nothing
more than move the pedophile priests around. You apparently don't read
the newspapers or watch the News on TV.
uh oh.....
You just admitted that they did do something....
Which is it?
Replace what you so dishonestly snipped and you would know. Never mind,
I did it for you.
Quote: Nothing or something.
Make up my mind.....
Replace what you so dishonestly snipped and you would know. Never
mind, I did it for you.
Quote: the pedophile priests around. You apparently don't read the newspapers or
watch the News on TV.
You need to read the facts a bit more.
There was considerably more done that move some priests.
Only *AFTER* the victims came forward and the RCC had to cough up millions
to the victims.
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Nope, but it sure has to suck to be as immature as you are. For an adult,
you post like a school boy. You must be socially retarded at the least
poopsie poo.
Yawn
Will you get back to a discussion, or will you be plonked?
We will see.
Plonk me and remain ignorant. It'll save your delusions and
fantasies........ )
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What did Jesus say about fancy vestments?
Read another of my posts.
I left a well documented referece on that.
Your ignorance of the bible is truly astounding.
Find my other post, sluggo.
I don't plan to post the references twice.
Who is Sluggo? Your priest?
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And the other 99% bypass that vow of poverty.
Not true.
Please list the ones where you live that chose to live in poverty.
What exactly do you want?
Thos who chose to live in poverty since I never met any and lived in an area
of 80% Catholics - until the pedophile issue was brought to light. Even my
family fled the RRC. Several of the churches were sold and RCC schools
closed due to lack of students. Isn't that wonderful? Now any freak priest
hiding and waiting for victims is out of luck. ;-)
Quote: Do you want to know what the vow of poverty is?
Do you want to know the names of the priests who took that vow?
Do you wish to know if any of these priests are actually impoverished?
Or who live in poverty. Perhaps you should define your interpretation
first.
I don't really care since even if you provided list I know how they live and
it's not in poverty. The rectory near our house had a housekeeper, a cook
and a woman who did their laundry and ironing. We knew all of them. They had
a man who maintained the lawns and gardens. There were several cars at
their disposal and none of them were underweight. There were no signs of
poverty.
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| Sockie... |
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:03 am |
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"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Sockie" <Sockie-1995 at (no spam) Socksland.com> wrote
Got anything new you want to whine about?
The truth hurts doesn't it?
I laugh at you and your truth.
You wouldn't recognize it if it rattled your zipper.
LOL... the truth is in History books, online, everywhere...... you can't
escape the TRUTH.
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:13 am |
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"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Florence B. Nitengail" <none at (no spam) nospamforme.net> wrote
"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
Oh, that's right.... The Big Bad RCC has big secrets.
Oh it had hundreds of them. Pedophiles buggering little children while
they turned their heads away and did nothing.
Nothing?
What did they do before the victims came forward? It was going on for over
50 years and some Bishops and Cardinals admitted knowing this. What did they
do for the 50 yrs they knew it was occurring and was a problem? Thy
admitted they moved the priests to other parishes in hope that would end the
talk, the suspicions, the complaints, the rumors. They admitted that hadn't
worked...... this was all in the papers and on TV at the time. So in
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:26 am |
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"Sockie" <Sockie-1995 at (no spam) Socksland.com> wrote ...
Quote: "Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
As it was,
once the bible became available to more and more, then more people
disagreed with an interpretation for their own greedy sakes.
Their own greedy sakes? Where did you get that one from?
Jim Bakker, Oral Roberts, LDS, JW's, Benny Hinn and many more.
All con-men and of no importance when millions people are considered.
Once the read the bible for themselves they realized how they'd been
conned by the RCC.
Not at all.
These people merely made up shit for themselves so they could
justify certain actions they wished to take.
What people? Those tortured and slaughtered by your church leaders?
Pay tension! Jim Bakker, Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn......
Quote: You don't know the history of your church in Europe?
Discuss "RCC grip" on them.
And "bleeding" of their finances.....
Look it up for yourself. Why do you think people (Cathars in this case)
in Europe rejected the RCC?
It seemed to work.
There hasn't been a cathar for 700 years.
NEXT!
Quote: You make it sound like a vast desertion of the church.
14,000 people in one town alone was a considerable number.... now multiply
that number of towns by the hundreds.
What town?
Quote: Good Golly, Miss Molly, you are full of hate....
Truth is not hate despite what your church teaches you.
You see mountain, I see molehill.
And I see the TRUTH.
No, you see what you want to see.
You interpret the truth to suit your needs....
Kinda like Jim Bakker, Oral Roberts,.....
BTW, do you have your own church?
Quote: Your church leaders were exposed by Martin Luther. They were forced to
stop selling salvation (indulgences).
Wow.
More history you didn't know? Why am I not surprised?
Do you have to go back 500 years?
I would bet that if you could go back that far in YOUR history, you
might find a horse thief or two
Quote: 2000 years of history, billions of humans in the RCC, and you come
up with a reference that happened a few hundred years ago? Good
for you. Would you like to learn more about some "baaad" catholics?
Quote: By the way you post I can see you barely made the 8th or 9th grade. You
can't even speak English correctly.
I merely speak down to those who can't comprehend the
importance of being lucid and factual.
When I speak down to you, I am merely reminding you that your
cacaphony is getting just a bit loud.
You don't know how to speak down to people as your churchmen have tried to
teach you. You just write as an uneducated immature person writes because
it's all you can do.
You actually think my church attempts to teach me how to speak
to idiots? Poor child. I've been around the world once or twice,
and I've seen your kind in every culture and creed. You are unhappy
because you choose to be unhappy.... and you try to surround
yourself with other unhappy people. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:30 am |
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"Sockie" wrote ...
Quote: They were your words sweetie pie.
Perhaps you have a learning disability, honey bunch since YOU said it.
LOL!!!
You can't even write a lucid sentence.
Google is your friend or ask your church for lists of those who have left
starting before the Inquisition. Surely they have lists of the names of
those they tortured and murdered, including the names of the women and
children.
Yer? Is that how the priests taught you to communicate?
Replace what you so dishonestly snipped and you would know.  Never
mind, I did it for you.
Replace what you so dishonestly snipped and you would know.  Never
mind, I did it for you.
Only *AFTER* the victims came forward and the RCC had to cough up millions
to the victims.
Plonk me and remain ignorant. It'll save your delusions and
fantasies........  )
When you can't argue with the facts, you insult the poster. |
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| Patrick... |
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:34 pm |
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"Sockie" <Sockie-1995 at (no spam) Socksland.com> wrote ...
Quote: LOL... the truth is in History books, online, everywhere...... you can't
escape the TRUTH.
Then why can't you seem to reference your lies? |
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:36 pm |
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"Florence B. Nitengail" <none at (no spam) nospamforme.net> wrote .
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Oh it had hundreds of them. Pedophiles buggering little children while
they turned their heads away and did nothing.
Nothing?
What did they do before the victims came forward? It was going on for over
50 years and some Bishops and Cardinals admitted knowing this. What did
they do for the 50 yrs they knew it was occurring and was a problem? Thy
admitted they moved the priests to other parishes in hope that would end
the talk, the suspicions, the complaints, the rumors. They admitted that
hadn't worked...... this was all in the papers and on TV at the time. So
in effect, they did nothing to stop the sexual abuse they knew was
occurring.
They did something.
It didn't work.
Remind me in 3 weeks to provide you what they did. |
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| Sockie... |
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:19 am |
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"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Sockie" <Sockie-1995 at (no spam) Socksland.com> wrote ...
LOL... the truth is in History books, online, everywhere...... you can't
escape the TRUTH.
Then why can't you seem to reference your lies?
What lies? I have no need to lie.
You can't find anything about history online? Try again. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:27 am |
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"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
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Quote: "Florence B. Nitengail" <none at (no spam) nospamforme.net> wrote .
"Patrick" <barker_pb at (no spam) erinot.com> wrote in message
Oh it had hundreds of them. Pedophiles buggering little children while
they turned their heads away and did nothing.
Nothing?
What did they do before the victims came forward? It was going on for
over 50 years and some Bishops and Cardinals admitted knowing this. What
did they do for the 50 yrs they knew it was occurring and was a problem?
Thy admitted they moved the priests to other parishes in hope that would
end the talk, the suspicions, the complaints, the rumors. They admitted
that hadn't worked...... this was all in the papers and on TV at the
time. So in effect, they did nothing to stop the sexual abuse they knew
was occurring.
They did something.
It didn't work.
And right from the START they knew moving them to another church didn't
"cure" them, yet they did nothing beyond that for over 50 yrs. Thousands of
children's were robbed of their childhood innocence and many left with
serious emotional problems.
Quote: Remind me in 3 weeks to provide you what they did.
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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:56 am |
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Quote: On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:24:07 -0500, "Parish *~" <Parish at (no spam) invalid.invalid
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"duke" <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:36:13 -0500, "Parish *~" <Parish at (no spam) invalid.invalid
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"duke" <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:15:28 -0500, "Parish *~"
Parish at (no spam) invalid.invalid
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If you choose to commit adultery, hide pedophiles, cheat on your taxes,
lie... don't think the rest of us do. Speak for yourself only.
God revealed what he knew was coming. Welcome to the world, sinner.
Speak for yourself. Not everyone is a criminal. If you chose to be a
criminal, and admit being a criminal, you should not assume everyone is.
We're not talking about being a criminal. We're talking about everyone
being a
sinner except Jesus Christ. Heb 4:15.
Sins are man made. Every society and religion has their own "sins." What's a
sin in one isn't in another.
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Speak for yourself. Not everyone is a criminal. If you chose to be a
criminal, and admit being a criminal, you should not assume everyone is.
We're not talking about being a criminal. We're talking about everyone
being a
sinner except Jesus Christ. Heb 4:15.
Sins are man made. Every society and religion has their own "sins." What's a
sin in one isn't in another.
Quote:
Ship, same old lies, fabrications and apologist nonsense for the a
morally
bankrupt church.
But it's the people that are the sinners. Welcome, brother.
Speak for yourself only. Not everyone is a criminal. If you chose to be a
criminal, and admit being a criminal, you should not assume everyone is.
We're not talking about being a criminal. We're talking about everyone
being a
sinner except Jesus Christ. Heb 4:15.
Sins are man made. Constructs of men to control other men and inspire fear
and guilt. Every society and religion has their own "sins." What's a sin in
one isn't in another. You should know this by now.
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The Dukester, American-American
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:56:08 -0500, "Parish *~" <Parish at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote:
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:24:07 -0500, "Parish *~" <Parish at (no spam) invalid.invalid
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"duke" <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:36:13 -0500, "Parish *~" <Parish at (no spam) invalid.invalid
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"duke" <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:15:28 -0500, "Parish *~"
Parish at (no spam) invalid.invalid
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If you choose to commit adultery, hide pedophiles, cheat on your taxes,
lie... don't think the rest of us do. Speak for yourself only.
God revealed what he knew was coming. Welcome to the world, sinner.
Speak for yourself. Not everyone is a criminal. If you chose to be a
criminal, and admit being a criminal, you should not assume everyone is.
We're not talking about being a criminal. We're talking about everyone
being a
sinner except Jesus Christ. Heb 4:15.
Sins are man made. Every society and religion has their own "sins." What's a
sin in one isn't in another.
For the mentally challenged as you, a sin is defined as telling God "no" to what
he told us - that you'll decide right from wrong and not he.
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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"duke" <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
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Quote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:56:08 -0500, "Parish *~" <Parish at (no spam) invalid.invalid
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Sins are man made. Every society and religion has their own "sins." What's
a
sin in one isn't in another.
For the mentally challenged as you, a sin is defined as telling God "no"
to what
he told us - that you'll decide right from wrong and not he.
That's YOUR sick warped mentally challenged version of "sins."
Quote:
The Dukester, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
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