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2B-Clear...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:34 am
Guest
"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)

Needless to say, their debunking campaign has been successful. The
good news is that the cover-up is about to end.

Here's an excerpt from Adamski's "Inside the Space Ships" that many
will find interesting:

"...If you had two sons, born of your own flesh and blood, as you say,
and if for one reason or another one of your Sons knelt before you and
asked your blessing on his determination to slay his brother, who is
also your son, would-you grant his request because he professed
himself right and his brother wrong?” My reply was naturally, “Of
course not!” Yet,” he pointed out, “that is exactly what you
Earthlings have been doing throughout the centuries. You all
acknowledge a Supreme Being according to your understanding, and you
speak of the brotherhood of mankind. Yet you ask the Eternal Father of
all things to do that which you yourselves would not do. For when you
people are warring against one another, you fall to your knees in
unholy prayer. You ask your Divine Father to bless your efforts to
gain a victory over your own lifebrother, even to the extent of
destroying him.

We, as your brothers living on other worlds than your own, view
impartially the divided groups of people upon your planet. We, who
have learned more regarding our Father’s laws, operative throughout
the Universe, cannot make the distinctions that keep you in such
constant turmoil and we are saddened to see what is taking place on
your Earth. We, as brothers of all mankind, are willing to help all
those whom we can reach and who desire our help. But at no time may we
force our way of life upon the people of your world.

In reality, there are no inherently bad people on Earth, nor anywhere
in the Universe. If, as many of you express it, your lives seem to
consist of a ‘hell on Earth,’ you yourselves are to blame. Your
planet, even as all others, was created by our One Divine Creator and
is in itself a holy place, as are all His creations. Were all mankind
suddenly to be swept from the face of Earth, and ‘with them the strife
and woe and grief they have brought upon it by not learning how to
live together, Earth would be beautiful. But never so beautiful as a
world on which men live as brothers with all in the Universe.

You have set aside a day each year for the observance of the
Brotherhood of Man, and you speak of the FatherIhood of the Creator.
Yet, in complete oblivion of the actions which such declarations
should bring forth, you lavish money and effort toward swifter and
more widespread ways of maiming and destroying your fellow men on
Earth. Does it not seem curious to pray to the Divine Father to bless
your efforts in this ruthless destruction? We hear these prayers
coming from your temples, from your government leaders, from your
homes and from the battlefields. Can you not see how far astray you
have gone? For you are actually asking your Divine Father to do that
which you yourself would not do for your own children. Can you not see
how hypocritical you have become? And this is but one illustration of
the many things which you do against your Divine Father.

....“The thing you call ‘war’ has not existed anywhere else in our
system for millions of years. Of course, all planets and their people
must pass through the orderly stages of evolvement from lower to
higher. But yours has not been an orderly or natural progress; rather,
an endless repetition of growth and destruction, growth and
destruction.

Indeed, each fresh meeting with these people of other worlds served
but to make any part of fear an utter absurdity. At all times I have
felt very humble for the privilege
which has been granted me to listen to their words of wisdom and to
visit and travel in their beautiful ships. All that they have asked of
me is that I pass their knowledge on to my fellow man, whoever and
wherever he may be. This I shall do, leaving to each man the privilege
of believing or disbelieving, of benefiting from a higher knowledge,
or casting it aside in derision and skepticism.

# end of excerpt #

George Adamski's book "Inside The Space Ships" (1955)
free download of this book or view at these sites:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/adamsk_insidespaceships.pdf
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11656731/Inside-the-Space-Ships-George-Adamski
http://www.box.net/shared/xmzzo9n3ig (pdf)

=============================================
As everyone will soon learn, all of the planets have Hierarchies. The
leader of the one on Earth is Maitreya and He'll soon present His
credentials to all of humanity.
He'll inspire us to see ourselves as one huge family and to rebuild
the world based upon the principles of sharing, justice, brotherhood
and love. Everyone who's interested should remember that worshipping
Maitreya and any of the Masters of Wisdom is an impediment to
understanding. The future for mankind is incredibly bright.

More details about this: http://www.Share-International.org

============
“The day hunger is eradicated from the earth, there will be the
greatest spiritual explosion the world has ever known. Humanity cannot
imagine the joy that will burst into the world on the day of that
great revolution.” Federico Garcia Lorca
 
Alrah...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:39 am
Guest
On 21 Oct, 17:24, Venerable Rinpoche <kyaga... at (no spam) infoflash.cn> wrote:
Quote:
2B-Clear wrote:
"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)

Needless to say, their debunking campaign has been successful. The
good news is that the cover-up is about to end.

Never. That's a long time, doncha think?

--
One thousand blessings

*alrah winks at the Venerable*
 
Alrah...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:08 am
Guest
On 21 Oct, 19:53, Evergreen <sidneyla... at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
On alt.magick, 2B-Clear <2bcl... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)

Needless to say, their debunking campaign has been successful. The
good news is that the cover-up is about to end.

Nonsense. The real conspiracy or black op here is the
ufology movement, which is largely a creation of the
corporate-governmental propaganda machine.

The contact experiences people have been having are with
non-physical beings from other, 'higher' layers of reality
who are trying to educate us about the true nature of
reality. They are implanting some people with _knowledge_.

_This_ is why there is no physical evidence to support the claim
that we are being visited by physical aliens in spacecraft.

Because most people in this culture are so strongly conditioned
to believe that physical reality is a closed system and the only
reality, they re-interpret, after the fact, their experiences
with the multi-dimensional teachers as being experiences with
physical aliens from other planetary systems.

The false worldview they have been taught by the scientific
materialists allows for no other interpretation.

The corporations (which include not only management and
employees, but investors and consumers: everyone) and the
government they control, desperately want people to continue
believing that the world revealed by the physical senses is the
only one, because this is the basis of the belief that technology
is the only solution to any problem.

Because technology equals jobs equals investment revenues.

[delete]

Sid

--
Sidney Lambe
Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magicianhttp://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444  (at) gmail (dot) com

Are you a scientologist as well Sid?
 
Tom...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:51 am
Guest
On Oct 21, 11:53 am, Evergreen <sidneyla... at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Quote:

Nonsense. The real conspiracy or black op here is the
ufology movement, which is largely a creation of the
corporate-governmental propaganda machine.

That is indeed nonsense.

Quote:
Because most people in this culture are so strongly conditioned
to believe that physical reality is a closed system and the only
reality,

Whereas Sid believes the only reality is whatever the hell he
imagines.

Quote:
The corporations (which include not only management and
employees, but investors and consumers: everyone) and the
government they control, desperately want people to continue
believing that the world revealed by the physical senses is the
only one, because this is the basis of the belief that technology
is the only solution to any problem.

Apparently Sid feels that this is what has prompted corporations and
governments to create a belief in UFOs. How a belief in UFOs is
supposed to further their plans to make people into "scientific
materialists" remains somewhat tenuous.
 
Venerable Rinpoche...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:24 am
Guest
2B-Clear wrote:

Quote:
"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)

Needless to say, their debunking campaign has been successful. The
good news is that the cover-up is about to end.

Never. That's a long time, doncha think?

--
One thousand blessings
 
HG...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:59 am
Guest
2B-Clear <2bclear at (no spam) gmail.com> writes:

Quote:
Here's an excerpt from Adamski's "Inside the Space Ships" that many
will find interesting:

"...If you had two sons, born of your own flesh and blood, as you say,
and if for one reason or another one of your Sons knelt before you and
asked your blessing on his determination to slay his brother, who is
also your son, would-you grant his request because he professed
himself right and his brother wrong?" My reply was naturally, "Of
course not!"
"Yet," he pointed out, "that is exactly what you
Earthlings have been doing throughout the centuries. You all
acknowledge a Supreme Being according to your understanding,


Those wonderful, superior space aliens have no idea at all that human
atheists exist in large quantities?

What pitiful, ignorant losers those aliens must be.


Besides, they sound exactly like a not very intelligent, run-of-the-mill
human preacher, who pretends he's an alien from outer space. I wonder why?


HG
 
Evergreen...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:53 pm
Guest
On alt.magick, 2B-Clear <2bclear at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)

Needless to say, their debunking campaign has been successful. The
good news is that the cover-up is about to end.


Nonsense. The real conspiracy or black op here is the
ufology movement, which is largely a creation of the
corporate-governmental propaganda machine.

The contact experiences people have been having are with
non-physical beings from other, 'higher' layers of reality
who are trying to educate us about the true nature of
reality. They are implanting some people with _knowledge_.

_This_ is why there is no physical evidence to support the claim
that we are being visited by physical aliens in spacecraft.

Because most people in this culture are so strongly conditioned
to believe that physical reality is a closed system and the only
reality, they re-interpret, after the fact, their experiences
with the multi-dimensional teachers as being experiences with
physical aliens from other planetary systems.

The false worldview they have been taught by the scientific
materialists allows for no other interpretation.

The corporations (which include not only management and
employees, but investors and consumers: everyone) and the
government they control, desperately want people to continue
believing that the world revealed by the physical senses is the
only one, because this is the basis of the belief that technology
is the only solution to any problem.

Because technology equals jobs equals investment revenues.

[delete]


Sid

--
Sidney Lambe
Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com
 
rh777...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:40 am
Guest
On Oct 21, 2:51 pm, Tom <danto... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 21, 11:53 am, Evergreen <sidneyla... at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Nonsense. The real conspiracy or black op here is the
ufology movement, which is largely a creation of the
corporate-governmental propaganda machine.

That is indeed nonsense.
.....


I totally agree that view is nonsense.

It's hard for me to grasp how one can imagine that our little planet
is the only one with intelligent life on it, especially for those who
have looked at the sky on a clear night and considered that the
universe is constantly expanding.

The ideas put forth in the books of George Adamski and Benjamin Creme
are perfectly plausible to my mind. The idea of other men on this
planet and other planets who are far more evolved than the average
person is easy to imagine. Without something to aspire to, life would
be grim. Benjamin Creme's assertions that some people (like: Mozart,
Rembrant, Einstein, Aliester Crowley, Paul Twitchell, Harold Klemp,
Bono, MLK, Gandi, Madam Curie, Krishna, Gautama Buddha, Jesus, Abe
Lincoln, and many others) who have made significant contributions to
our relatively primitive civilization were much more evolved than the
average person, doesn't require genius to see. The ideas of heaven &
hell as put forth by Christianity is a tough one for many to
swallow.

It's like most people are (from an evolutionary perspective) still in
elementary school. The initiates are like over achieving youngish
adults who are driven by the god within to play significant roles that
contribute to the common good.

The reason most of us (all without etheric vision) can only see on
the physical plane is that we are too young and immature. Seeing on
higher planes is a privilege that is governed by certain laws of
nature, that can't be bypassed.

The Earth can be likened to a small, primitive village where the blind
lead the blind. Over 99.99% of us are oblivious to other
civilizations, some which are thousands to millions of years more
advanced than ours.

The military forces of the planet, dominated by the Pentagon are
subservient to some insanely greedy bastards who most certainly do not
want world peace, nor do they want to see big changes on earth. They
intentionally do all that they can to hide the truth about our
neighbors (the space brothers) and to keep them out of the picture.
They have fooled most of the people, most of the time.

The good news is that the great ufo coverup is about to end. Sightings
are becoming more common, and now more than ever - people are doubting
the stories told by those in power. In a short time, we'll all know
that we are all part of a family that is much more massive than anyone
would have guess. The leader of the earth's esoteric Hierarchy - the
World Teacher will soon present His credentials to humanity. The
events of that day will lead most people to believe that He is indeed
the World Teacher. A few fanatic fundamentalists who are hung up on
dogma will insist (as many already do) that Maitreya is the "anti-
Christ". They also imagine that all the billions of good people who
are not Christians are doomed to spend eternity in Hell.

Thinking people must be skeptical of bizarre claims, but it is a big
mistake to be overly cynical. As they say, you can lead a horse to
water but you can't make them drink. A mind is a terrible thing to
close.


"The first fact your people must realize is that the inhabitants of
other worlds are not fundamentally different from Earth men. The
purpose of life on other worlds is basically the same as yours.
Inherent in all mankind, however deeply buried it may be, is the
yearning to rise to something higher. Your school system on Earth is,
in a sense, patterned after the universal progress of life. For in
your schools you progress from grade to grade and from school to
school, toward a higher and fuller education. In the same way, man
progresses from planet to planet, and from system to system toward an
ever higher understanding and evolvement in universal growth and
service.”

"You know that there are certain groups in your world who have
already
made claim for property rights and possession of your Moon for the
purpose of using it as a military base. Many Earth scientists are
hoping that, in the not too distant future, they will succeed in
building space ships like ours for interplanetary travel. It is
entirely possible that this will be done. But Earth men will not be
allowed to come in numbers or to remain, until they have learned to
embrace the all-inclusive life as lived by people of other worlds,
rather than the selfish personal life as found on Earth today. And
there will be much for you to learn about outer space, for it is on
space itself that you will move."
-- from: George Adamski's book "Inside The Space Ships" (1955)

free download of this book or view free at these sites:
http://www.thenewearth.org/InsideTheSpaceShips.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11656731/Inside-the-Space-Ships-George-Adamski
http://www.box.net/shared/xmzzo9n3ig (pdf)

=============
As everyone will soon learn, all of the planets have Hierarchies. The
leader of the one on Earth is Maitreya and He'll soon present His
credentials to all of humanity.
He'll inspire us to see ourselves as one huge family and to rebuild
the world based upon the principles of sharing, justice, brotherhood
and love. Everyone who's interested should remember that worshipping
Maitreya and any of the Masters of Wisdom is an impediment to
understanding. The future for mankind is incredibly bright.

More details about this: http://www.Share-International.org

============
“The day hunger is eradicated from the earth, there will be the
greatest spiritual explosion the world has ever known. Humanity
cannot
imagine the joy that will burst into the world on the day of that
great revolution.” Federico Garcia Lorca
 
Ken...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:07 am
Guest
rh777 wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 21, 2:51 pm, Tom <danto... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
On Oct 21, 11:53 am, Evergreen <sidneyla... at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Nonsense. The real conspiracy or black op here is the
ufology movement, which is largely a creation of the
corporate-governmental propaganda machine.

That is indeed nonsense.
....

I totally agree that view is nonsense.

It's hard for me to grasp how one can imagine that our little planet
is the only one with intelligent life on it, especially for those who
have looked at the sky on a clear night and considered that the
universe is constantly expanding.

The ideas put forth in the books of George Adamski and Benjamin Creme
are perfectly plausible to my mind. The idea of other men on this
planet and other planets who are far more evolved than the average
person is easy to imagine. Without something to aspire to, life would
be grim. Benjamin Creme's assertions that some people (like: Mozart,
Rembrant, Einstein, Aliester Crowley, Paul Twitchell, Harold Klemp,
Bono, MLK, Gandi, Madam Curie, Krishna, Gautama Buddha, Jesus, Abe
Lincoln, and many others) who have made significant contributions to
our relatively primitive civilization were much more evolved than the
average person, doesn't require genius to see. The ideas of heaven &
hell as put forth by Christianity is a tough one for many to
swallow.

It's like most people are (from an evolutionary perspective) still in
elementary school. The initiates are like over achieving youngish
adults who are driven by the god within to play significant roles that
contribute to the common good.

The reason most of us (all without etheric vision) can only see on
the physical plane is that we are too young and immature. Seeing on
higher planes is a privilege that is governed by certain laws of
nature, that can't be bypassed.

The Earth can be likened to a small, primitive village where the blind
lead the blind. Over 99.99% of us are oblivious to other
civilizations, some which are thousands to millions of years more
advanced than ours.

The military forces of the planet, dominated by the Pentagon are
subservient to some insanely greedy bastards who most certainly do not
want world peace, nor do they want to see big changes on earth. They
intentionally do all that they can to hide the truth about our
neighbors (the space brothers) and to keep them out of the picture.
They have fooled most of the people, most of the time.

The good news is that the great ufo coverup is about to end. Sightings
are becoming more common, and now more than ever - people are doubting
the stories told by those in power. In a short time, we'll all know
that we are all part of a family that is much more massive than anyone
would have guess. The leader of the earth's esoteric Hierarchy - the
World Teacher will soon present His credentials to humanity. The
events of that day will lead most people to believe that He is indeed
the World Teacher. A few fanatic fundamentalists who are hung up on
dogma will insist (as many already do) that Maitreya is the "anti-
Christ". They also imagine that all the billions of good people who
are not Christians are doomed to spend eternity in Hell.

Thinking people must be skeptical of bizarre claims, but it is a big
mistake to be overly cynical. As they say, you can lead a horse to
water but you can't make them drink. A mind is a terrible thing to
close.


"The first fact your people must realize is that the inhabitants of
other worlds are not fundamentally different from Earth men. The
purpose of life on other worlds is basically the same as yours.
Inherent in all mankind, however deeply buried it may be, is the
yearning to rise to something higher. Your school system on Earth is,
in a sense, patterned after the universal progress of life. For in
your schools you progress from grade to grade and from school to
school, toward a higher and fuller education. In the same way, man
progresses from planet to planet, and from system to system toward an
ever higher understanding and evolvement in universal growth and
service.”

"You know that there are certain groups in your world who have
already
made claim for property rights and possession of your Moon for the
purpose of using it as a military base. Many Earth scientists are
hoping that, in the not too distant future, they will succeed in
building space ships like ours for interplanetary travel. It is
entirely possible that this will be done. But Earth men will not be
allowed to come in numbers or to remain, until they have learned to
embrace the all-inclusive life as lived by people of other worlds,
rather than the selfish personal life as found on Earth today. And
there will be much for you to learn about outer space, for it is on
space itself that you will move."
-- from: George Adamski's book "Inside The Space Ships" (1955)

free download of this book or view free at these sites:
http://www.thenewearth.org/InsideTheSpaceShips.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11656731/Inside-the-Space-Ships-George-Adamski
http://www.box.net/shared/xmzzo9n3ig (pdf)

==============

As everyone will soon learn, all of the planets have Hierarchies. The
leader of the one on Earth is Maitreya and He'll soon present His
credentials to all of humanity.
He'll inspire us to see ourselves as one huge family and to rebuild
the world based upon the principles of sharing, justice, brotherhood
and love. Everyone who's interested should remember that worshipping
Maitreya and any of the Masters of Wisdom is an impediment to
understanding. The future for mankind is incredibly bright.

More details about this: http://www.Share-International.org

=============

“The day hunger is eradicated from the earth, there will be the
greatest spiritual explosion the world has ever known. Humanity
cannot
imagine the joy that will burst into the world on the day of that
great revolution.” Federico Garcia Lorca


I'm liking the vibe and the general sense of well-being that you put
out. However, there are some real issues with what you are saying is
going to happen.

Let's say things work out as you forecast. When Mr. M "reveals
himself", how are the fundamentalist Christians and Moslems going to be
convinced that this so called Maitreya isn't the Anti-Christ? Do you
have any idea the turmoil that will create?

Also, how will the rest of us know that Mr. M isn't the leader of a
vanguard of evil aliens intent on enslaving us all?
 
Tom...
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:22 am
Guest
On Oct 27, 9:40 am, rh777 <rohohalcon... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:

It's hard for me to grasp how one can imagine that our little planet
is the only one with intelligent life on it, especially for those  who
have looked at the sky on a clear night and considered that the
universe is constantly expanding.

I wouldn't think that a guy who imagines as much as you do would have
any trouble imagining just a little bit more.

Quote:
The ideas put forth in the books of George Adamski and Benjamin Creme
are perfectly plausible to my mind.  

It all depends on the criteria you use to determine plausibility.

http://www.neurofission.com/Tech_Page_8.htm

Quote:
The idea of other men on this
planet and other planets who are far more evolved than the average
person is easy to imagine.

And yet, you cannot imagine anyone less "evolved". Perhaps it's not
because you can't grasop it, it's just that you really don't want to.

Quote:
Without something to aspire to, life would
be grim.

Why? Is joy only to be found in ceaseless, unquenchable ambition?

Quote:
The military forces of the planet, dominated by the Pentagon are
subservient to some insanely greedy bastards

Ah, but as you say, "Without something to aspire to, life would be
grim."

Quote:
The good news is that the great ufo coverup is about to end. Sightings
are becoming more common,

Have you verified this statistically, or are you just hoping that it
might be true?

Quote:
and now more than ever - people are doubting
the stories told by those in power.  

Again, I don't see any statistics on this. Are you talking about the
whole world or just some parts of it?

Quote:
The leader of the earth's esoteric Hierarchy - the
World Teacher will soon present His credentials to humanity.

Are you talking about Ben Creme again? Ben has been presenting his
"Maitreya" credentials to the world for decades and almost nobody
(except you, perhaps) has been in the least bit impressed.

Quote:
Thinking people must be skeptical of bizarre claims,

Such as claims of "Space Brothers" and "Maitreyas".

Quote:
but it is a big
mistake to be overly cynical.

And a much bigger one to be overly gullible.

Quote:
As they say, you can lead a horse to
water but you can't make them drink. A mind is a terrible thing to
close.

I'm all for an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out.

Quote:
"You know that there are certain groups in your world who have
already
made claim for property rights and possession of your Moon for the
purpose of using it as a military base.

Oops! There goes your brain, falling out again. I'm sure that in
1955, when Adamski pretended that "Space Brothers" had said this, some
people were advocating for it, but they were overruled quite
decisively without any extraterrestrial intervention of any kind.

According to international law, specifically the 1967 "Treaty on
Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and
Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies" no
government may use the Moon or any other celestial body for testing
weapons of any kind, conducting military maneuvers, or establishing
military bases, installations, and fortifications It has 99 state-
parties to it and 26 more who are signatories but whose full
governments have not yet ratified it.

http://history.nasa.gov/1967treaty.html
 
rh777...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:39 am
Guest
On Oct 28, 11:07 am, "Ken" <K... at (no spam) NowHere.net> wrote:
....
Quote:

I'm liking the vibe and the general sense of well-being that you put
out. However, there are some real issues with what you are saying is
going to happen.

Let's say things work out as you forecast. When Mr. M "reveals
himself", how are the fundamentalist Christians and Moslems going to be
convinced that this so called Maitreya isn't the Anti-Christ? Do you
have any idea the turmoil that will create?

I don't think that the Moslems beleive in an Anti-Christ. Iranian
president Armenijad (mispelled) knows about M and has said so - to
him, M is the Imam Mahdi. He even mentioned that Jesus was going to
come back with Maitreya and straighten out Christianity - so i don't
think the Moslems will be a problem. There are a number of Christian
fundamentalists who already beleive that Maitreya is the "anti-
christ". After His Day of Declaration there will still be a few who
think that, but only those with the hardest heads and hardest hearts.
Out of the 6.8 or so billion on Earth, the vast majority of them are
very tolerant of people with views other than theirs. Christian
fundamentalists are an exception to that and small in number. Details
about that "day" are below... they'll help to partially at least -
answer your questions and help you to see how blown away (and totally
delighted) most people will be.

Quote:

Also, how will the rest of us know that Mr. M isn't the leader of a
vanguard of evil aliens intent on enslaving us all?- Hide quoted text -

A few people who love horror more than peace and joy might think that
at first, but the numbers of those folks are sure to be quite small.
Most people will feel far more love than they've ever felt before - to
say the least...

Here's some info that I've copied from the share web site that details
what will happen on the Day when He presents His credentials. It'll be
a day to tell the grandchildren and great grandchildren about!


Day of Declaration

Maitreya will be invited by the international media to speak directly
to the entire world through the television networks linked together by
satellites.

On this Day of Declaration, we will see his face on the television
screen wherever we have access. The biblical statement, "All eyes will
see him," will be fulfilled, in the only way in which it can be
fulfilled. We will see his face, but he will not speak. His thoughts,
his ideas, his call to humanity for justice, sharing, right
relationships and peace, will take place silently, telepathically.
Each of us will hear him inwardly in our own language. In this way, he
will re-enact on a worldwide scale the true happenings of Pentecost
2,000 years ago.

At the same time, the energy which he embodies -- the Christ Principle,
the energy of love -- will flow out in tremendous potency through the
hearts of all humanity. He has said: "It will be as if I embrace the
world. People will feel it even physically." This will evoke an
intuitive, heartfelt response to his message. Simultaneously, on the
outer, physical plane, there will be hundreds of thousands of miracle
healings throughout the planet. In these three ways we will know that
Maitreya is the World Teacher, come for all groups, religious and non-
religious alike.

Our response to this experience will determine the entire future of
this planet. Maitreya will present us with a choice: either we
continue as we are now, in the old, greedy, selfish, complacent ways
of the past, and destroy ourselves, or we accept the principle of
sharing, accept that we are one, and begin the creation of a
civilization such as this world has never yet seen. Maitreya already
knows our answer. He has said: "My heart tells me your answer, your
choice, and is glad."


source: http://www.share-international.org/maitreya/MA_emerge.htm
//end of quote//
=======

Don't worry - all will be well. The human family is not doomed to a
hellish future characterized by dysfunctionality. It's time for peace,
sanity, cooperation, justice, & brotherhood. There are some extremely
powerful people who don't want to see these changes, but the power
belongs to the people, and the insanely greedy few who want to rule
over us will fall from power.

RH

P.S. Congratulations on having an open mind! Those are rarer than most
people might imagine. Lots of people don't believe the story but when
pressed will say that they hope it's true. Understandably, they will
believe that this bizarre story is true after they have seen, heard, &
felt it. This is incredibly huge and totally unprecedented - It will
clearly be the most profound day in the history of humanity.
 
jos boersema...
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:08 am
Guest
["Followup-To:" header set to talk.religion.newage.]
On 2009-10-29, rh777 <rohohalcon777 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 28, 11:07 am, "Ken" <K... at (no spam) NowHere.net> wrote:
...
I'm liking the vibe and the general sense of well-being that you put
out. However, there are some real issues with what you are saying is
going to happen.

Let's say things work out as you forecast. When Mr. M "reveals
himself",

Hi ! Here's mister *m*, but please use small caps.
So let's get right down to business ...
- new testament is bullshit.
- buddhism is bullshit too.
- islam isn't too bad, they have honor to the degree they are against
for profit finance,
- Torah is good, tanach too, but the rest what the jews have done is
not so good, and contradictory. Zionazism is bad.
- na natives, Hopi are good.
- new age is bad

Point 2: i'm not a god, i'm just not lazy like you ppl and do my
homework. Or to be more precise: i am as lazy as you, but i didn't
have anything better to do either. Every religion that calls me
a god is therefore false, so then you are only left with Hopi and
Israel, the rest is not good because it promotes "worship of a
person."

Point 3: what's going to be the result of 'mister m' showing up ?
Really, nothing. The whole purpose of this 'mister m' thing is
to give you a reason to check my site, and that's the beginning and
the end of it. If you like my site, let's go do it because you like
and agree with it ON CONTENT. If you do not like my site, then i
guess you can forget about this 'mister m' thing, too. In both cases,
you can forget about this 'mister m' thing -- nothing more then a
pretty massive Propaganda campaign -- the longest in all of history.
Well ... if you see what you're up against now with all the propaganda
blitz on any and all subjects, you got to position yourselve
strategically right ? Got to prepare. So it was done, and now it's
time to push that button i guess ...

Because ppl don't listen to reason alone, so it seems, which is indeed
a very bad thing and might already be enough to write this whole
humanity off just for that reason alone. Can't do reason ? Can't think ?
Then how can you operate real democracy and technological power ??

But, anycase, it's there, so i'm using it; it may be wrong or not,
i don't know.

Quote:
himself", how are the fundamentalist Christians and Moslems going to be
convinced that this so called Maitreya isn't the Anti-Christ? Do you
have any idea the turmoil that will create?

I don't think that the Moslems beleive in an Anti-Christ.

Anti-christ is *not* me, i though that was Obama ? No ? What do I
know...

Quote:
Iranian
president Armenijad (mispelled) knows about M and has said so - to
him, M is the Imam Mahdi.

Ah, Imam Mahdi, well, that is *not* me. Good luck waiting forever
on nothing.

Quote:
He even mentioned that Jesus was going to
come back with Maitreya

Maitreya is *not* me, someone else; good luck waiting forever on
nothing though.

Quote:
and straighten out Christianity

New testament cult is to be removed from Earth because its theology
has imploded (is assumes jesus was moshiach jesjaja 53, and that
is simply a lie). So the new-testament jewish/roman cult is going
to be "straightened out" in the sense that it will be cut.

Quote:
so i don't
think the Moslems will be a problem. There are a number of Christian
fundamentalists who already beleive that Maitreya is the "anti-
christ".

Could be, don't know.

Quote:
After His Day of Declaration there will still be a few who
think that, but only those with the hardest heads and hardest hearts.
Out of the 6.8 or so billion on Earth, the vast majority of them are
very tolerant of people with views other than theirs. Christian
fundamentalists are an exception to that and small in number. Details
about that "day" are below... they'll help to partially at least -
answer your questions and help you to see how blown away (and totally
delighted) most people will be.

Also, how will the rest of us know that Mr. M isn't the leader of a
vanguard of evil aliens intent on enslaving us all?- Hide quoted text -

Check my site ? See if it says "subjugate your pea brains to us, the
alien invadors, to grokta and momblatiktu, our flesh eating machines" ?
Or ... if you are one of those "sophisticated people," read my site
and try to find it is leaves loopholes for secretive manipulative
controls ...

Quote:
A few people who love horror more than peace and joy might think that
at first, but the numbers of those folks are sure to be quite small.
Most people will feel far more love than they've ever felt before - to
say the least...

Here's some info that I've copied from the share web site that details
what will happen on the Day when He presents His credentials. It'll be
a day to tell the grandchildren and great grandchildren about!

Day of Declaration

Maitreya will be invited by the international media to speak directly
to the entire world through the television networks linked together by
satellites.

uh oh ? Interesting, let me know when it's on.

You might have to look out for ppl who are maybe going to pretend
to be 'maitreya' now, now that i'm leaving that position rejected and
open, who may want to use a possibly political/religious destabilization
for their own self gain.

I'm saying: there probably isn't any matraya coming around, no mahdi,
and of course most definitely no 2nd coming of anti-christ jesus.
That last one is a certainty because it was a lie for the start, or
say mistake (on the part of the jewish new-testament followers).
So, with that 2nd coming already being a lie, presumably the other
two things will also never occur, because why would they - for example -
need to occur ? What's left to do ? Am i not already doing the job
properly, or as reasonably as it could be done (i hope) ? Someone
going to thinly "redo" it ? For what reason ?!

Just face it: all these religions are simply wrong to varying degrees.
What's the use for Islam after this ? What's the use for christianity ?
Don't need it anymore, right ? Do we ? To the degree we do, they won't
need some "mahdi" to come around, or some "2nd jesus mistake." Why ?
What's the use, even if it where possible ?

Quote:
On this Day of Declaration, we will see his face on the television
screen wherever we have access.

Sounds scary.
http://www.jhwh.be/nonprint <-- my face Wink
Sorry to disapoint.

No, I do not make drugs from common household items like jesus
purportedly did. Soooooo sorry Wink.

Quote:
The biblical statement, "All eyes will
see him," will be fulfilled, in the only way in which it can be
fulfilled. We will see his face, but he will not speak.

Wrong, i did talk quite a bit there.

Quote:
His thoughts,
his ideas, his call to humanity for justice, sharing, right
relationships and peace, will take place silently, telepathically.

Wrong, I talked in English and i pointed to a drawing on the wall.
Deal with it !
heheh

Quote:
Each of us will hear him inwardly in our own language. In this way, he
will re-enact on a worldwide scale the true happenings of Pentecost
2,000 years ago.

pentacost ?! what the hell is that ? is that this some jesusfreak thing ?

Quote:
At the same time, the energy which he embodies -- the Christ Principle,

Piss off new age fuckwits.

[zap]

The revolution is not for children, it is serious business and people
can get hurt.

Leave the NA natives alone with their religion, they don't need your
lies, much less your killing of innecent dumb / tricked ppl in sweat
lodges.

"Feel the vibe" hehe. Much better: study economics and do something
real.
--
http://www.socialism.nl
 
Max...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:36 am
Guest
On Oct 29, 10:08 am, jos boersema <jo... at (no spam) xs4all.nl> wrote:
<snipped assorted false assumptions and insults>
Quote:
"Feel the vibe" hehe. Much better: study economics and do something
real.

There are lots of people who believe that because they can't see
something, that means it doesn't exist. Eventually, they will
learn that such a view is incorrect. Some also jump to
conclusions that they base on their imaginings rather than facts and
many who hold the view that they can elevate themselves by trying to
put others down. At some point in their evolutionary journey they
will
see that neither of those approaches lead them to the truth.
 
Tom...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:22 pm
Guest
On Oct 30, 1:36 pm, Max <maxhem... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:

There are lots of people who believe that because they can't see
something, that means it doesn't exist. Eventually, they will
learn that such a view is incorrect. Some also jump to
conclusions that they base on their imaginings rather than facts and
many who hold the view that they can elevate themselves by trying to
put others down. At some point in their evolutionary journey they
will see that neither of those approaches lead them to the truth.

Then again, there are lots of people who believe something simply
because they are told that they should (or, perversely, because
they've been told that they shouldn't) or because they feel less
anxious by convincing themselves that they really know what's going
on. Eventually they learn that these approaches to truth are
incorrect also.

Essentially, everybody eventually learns that pretty much everything
they ever believed is incorrect. If they live long enough, that is.
Unfortunately most don't live that long and die believing the same rot
they believed for whatever inadequate reason they chose in the first
place.
 
Ken...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:50 am
Guest
Tom wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 30, 1:36 pm, Max <maxhem... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

There are lots of people who believe that because they can't see
something, that means it doesn't exist. Eventually, they will
learn that such a view is incorrect. Some also jump to
conclusions that they base on their imaginings rather than facts and
many who hold the view that they can elevate themselves by trying to
put others down. At some point in their evolutionary journey they
will see that neither of those approaches lead them to the truth.

Then again, there are lots of people who believe something simply
because they are told that they should (or, perversely, because
they've been told that they shouldn't) or because they feel less
anxious by convincing themselves that they really know what's going
on. Eventually they learn that these approaches to truth are
incorrect also.

Essentially, everybody eventually learns that pretty much everything
they ever believed is incorrect. If they live long enough, that is.
Unfortunately most don't live that long and die believing the same rot
they believed for whatever inadequate reason they chose in the first
place.


Do you believe that? If so, your theory says that what you say here is
almost certainly wrong.
 
 
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