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Alrah...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:38 pm
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On 7 Oct, 04:21, Tom <danto... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 6, 11:02 am, Alrah <alrah-pub... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:



Yes Tom - I am in desperately in need of guidence!

You don't need a guide if all you wish to do is wander aimlessly.

 Could you tell me
how to switch off this 'internal narration' that is not simply verbal
but encompases the entire range of sensory organisation feedback?

Sit still. Pay attention to what's happening.  When you notice that
you're telling yourself what's happening, pay attention to that, too.
Don't judge.  Don't fight.  Just accept.  Slowly, over time, the
compulsion to tell yourself what's happening will subside and you will
simply pay attention to what is without having to narrate it.  The
more you do this, the easier it'll get.

Great - that's wonderful advice for Zazen practise Tom, but now why
don't you apply a caveat for when you're moving around, interacting
with the world? If you only accept feedback from the senses without
applying any sort of judgement or consciously organising the data (in
the now) then you won't get lost in a maze of internal narration - but
neither will you be able to effectively learn or interact. If you
find yourself in a subtropical place at night and there's something
growling in the underbush - then a bit of internal narration (verbal/
pictorial or whatever) that says Hypothosis: 'could be a tiger'
Suggestion: 'go inside', is useful. Standing around not judging and
waiting to see if it's a tiger or a harmless small beastie could get
you eaten.

In any case - the more you refuse to use the brains organising
principle consciously (which is all narration really is) then all that
will happen is that more 'narration' will occur when you are asleep,
and the brain automatically 'interprets' and organises the data from
the day - sometimes making mistakes, but sometimes drawing useful
hypothesis, conclusions from synthesis, solutions etc - which is why
people recommend that you 'sleep on it' if you have a problem.

I have some great debates with myself when I'm asleep. The silent
self part of my ego illustrates it's meanings in pictures and sensory
illustrations while the verbal part of the ego just uses language.
This type of internal dialog is extremely useful. I think when people
get lost in a maze of internal verbal narration, it's because they
haven't recognised that 'the silent self' is also paying attention and
doesn't need a running commentary. That and the fact that when the
verbal part of the ego doesn't communicate with it's silent self part
it becomes out of balance, assumes the role of king with the tin
crown, and under utilses all the functions of the silent self part of
the ego.

*Silent self draws a picture of two people embracing/becoming
one*
 
mika...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:35 am
Guest
On Oct 6, 3:09 pm, HG wrote:
Quote:

there's no need to post more irrelevant Eliza-type crap.

Between Alrah's and Bassos' complete idiocy, Eliza is looking quite
intelligent. What pathetically disorganized minds.
 
mika...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:48 am
Guest
On Oct 8, 8:09 am, "bassos" wrote:
Quote:
"mika" wrote

Yes, I restrict the meaning of the words I use to how those words are
actually defined.  That is how a word becomes a meaningful tool for
the communication of ideas.


Sure, and then by necessity if someone responds to it, they will always have
a different idea of what you mean than you.

Wow. Your brain is a big fucking mess. Using words how they are
actually defined ensures that others have the *same* idea of what you
mean as you. Misunderstandings result from the exact opposite -
making shit up as you go along, like claiming that all communication
is the same as narration, you utterly dense tool.

Have a nice day!
 
Tom...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:00 am
Guest
On Oct 8, 1:38 am, Alrah <alrah-pub... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:

Great - that's wonderful advice for Zazen practise Tom, but now why
don't you apply a caveat for when you're moving around, interacting
with the world?

Because you haven't sufficient discipline to avoid becoming
distracted.

You're trying to find excuses for why you don't achieve anything. Any
distraction at all will serve as such an excuse. So keep it as
absolutely simple as possible.
 
Alrah...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:27 am
Guest
On 8 Oct, 17:00, Tom <danto... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 8, 1:38 am, Alrah <alrah-pub... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:



Great - that's wonderful advice for Zazen practise Tom, but now why
don't you apply a caveat for when you're moving around, interacting
with the world?

Because you haven't sufficient discipline to avoid becoming
distracted.

*Tom invents an imaginary scenario*

- that's what you always do when push comes to shove on a.m. Tom. So
much for your methods on stopping narration. You can only do it
sitting in the corner - like a silly on/off switch. No integration...
yet.

Quote:
You're trying to find excuses for why you don't achieve anything.  Any
distraction at all will serve as such an excuse.  So keep it as
absolutely simple as possible.

Oh I see - you can't process/organise different idea's because you
have not processed them in your past and your present mind set
precludes you from learning anything new. Therefore use the old chess
move - if feeling threatened simply attack. You're simply running
along on old management subroutines Tom, and they are insufficient to
equip you to deal with changing circumstances.

Review Huineng.
 
Alrah...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:07 am
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On 8 Oct, 17:27, Alrah <alrah-pub... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
Review Huineng.

Bodhi is no tree,
nor is the mind a standing mirror bright.
Since all is originally empty,
where does the dust alight?
 
Alrah...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:12 am
Guest
On 8 Oct, 18:07, Alrah <alrah-pub... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 8 Oct, 17:27, Alrah <alrah-pub... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

Review Huineng.

Bodhi is no tree,
nor is the mind a standing mirror bright.
Since all is originally empty,
where does the dust alight?

This was in response to Shenxiu's convention wisdom (re - the two
truths) -

The body is a Bodhi tree,
the mind a standing mirror bright.
At all times polish it diligently,
and let no dust alight.
 
Alrah...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:21 am
Guest
On 8 Oct, 18:12, Alrah <alrah-pub... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
This was in response to Shenxiu's convention wisdom (re - the two
truths) -

The body is a Bodhi tree,
the mind a standing mirror bright.
At all times polish it diligently,
and let no dust alight.

Of Shenxiu's conventional wisdom - we can say that Huinengs
enlightened wisdom cannot stand alone without Shenxiu's conventional
wisdom.

In life - we must accept and embrace the ego as the identity of the
mind, and accept the body and it's feelings. No part of their
workings - *in their essence* can be rejected - and we must recognise
them even in lower meditation if we are to follow the footsteps of the
tathagata in higher meditation.

Even the sundary outcroppings of wrong thought, wrong speech, and
wrong action can be traced back to the essence of the workings of mind/
body, and must not be rejected *in their essence*.

Do you understand?
 
bassos...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:09 am
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"mika" <mikabot at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:bde2e098-f01c-4ff6-92ec-a8eb707a38d8 at (no spam) m3g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 7, 11:08 am, "bassos" wrote:
Quote:
"mika" wrote i

Chemicals and electrical currents do not narrate.
**

That is cos you restrict your meaning.

**
Yes, I restrict the meaning of the words I use to how those words are
actually defined. That is how a word becomes a meaningful tool for
the communication of ideas.
**

Sure, and then by necessity if someone responds to it, they will always have
a different idea of what you mean than you.
And even you do not really know what you mean, nor does the translation into
words on a screen accurately captures it. (conclusion about loads of series
of conclusions about loads of chemical narrations of practically infinite
atomic states within which reality itself is not certain)

So a dictionary is a tool.
Words are tools.
Logic is a tool.
Leaping planes is a tool.

Brake free of your bounds that what you wrote is waht you thought you meant.
It is what it is.

Do whatever is interesting or funny or well, whatever you like with them.

Clinging to them is also a possibility, but seeing how you have changed the
moment of writing them words, it seems an awful lot like 'better from not'.

Quote:
It is about talking.
What is talking, it is communicating.
What is communicating, if not any and all communication ?

**
What a stupid logical fallacy. Set A includes C, Set B includes C,
therefore A = B? This is your argument? Pathetic.
**

Your puny logic is no match for wit.
(and i really only have a vague understanding of what wit actually means, me
not being english)

Set A includes B, set B includes C, therefore,
When discussing B, it is usefull to see how that works in A and C.
You, focussing on whining/childish tantrum/naysaying/getting more and more
bound to the past/etc, is just one of the myriad ways to go.

I actually explained it, but noo, anger is far better than actually moving
forward.
(sticking to the past is a neccesity for anger)
 
bassos...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:45 am
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"mika" <mikabot at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1b11361d-fe88-47a0-8551-8690ed4c9b8c at (no spam) i12g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 6, 3:09 pm, HG wrote:
Quote:

there's no need to post more irrelevant Eliza-type crap.

**
Between Alrah's and Bassos' complete idiocy, Eliza is looking quite
intelligent. What pathetically disorganized minds.
**

Heh, complaining about me now, are we.
(and throwing me in with Alrah. If she behaves like a computer AI, let's
train it, instead of mock it, think of all the free time we would have if a
bot could pretty much answer most questions. Why fight that ? Help it !)

How : whining/childish tantrum/naysaying/getting more and more
bound to the past/etc of you.

Ehem.

I treat you so nice and you continue to hurt me.
I did explain the joke before anyone else could comment.

Besides.
You know there is content in my posts. (well usually)
Simply let go of the past and see what is now as what is what.
 
rh777...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:26 am
Guest
On Sep 30, 5:26 pm, Tom <danto... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
both superior technology and superior minds.  Are you worried that
they cannot outwit a few paranoid backwater rustics (galactically
speaking) unless *you* help them?

No not at all. We have to help ourselves though. The Space Brothers
are required to obey certain laws. One very important law is that
they can't infringe mankind's free will. The more people open their
minds to them, the more the law enables them to help us. The more of
us who cooperate with them and the Plan, the better.

It is very helpful for us to pressure the news media to cover UFO
sitings. It is also very helpful for us to spread information about
them to others.

On more civilized planets, the news media's role is to provide helpful
and imortant information to the people.

On Earth the news media serves selfish and insanely greedy people. The
blind lead the blind. They are in it for money, and they uphold the
status quo. They like having cheap labour/slaves. In the USA for
example, they don't mention that the average worker in other developed
nations (even those with the worst jobs) get 6 or 7 weeks of paid
vacation time per year, and that everyone has health care. They don't
mention that we spend more than all the other nations combined on
military and that the military often picks fights with others since
peace is their biggest threat. Rather than point out major
differences that make other nations more democratic and comfortable,
the US news media supresses that information because they support the
status quo. They don't want to see change. They like things just the
way they are. As Malcolm X pointed out, they can make villains look
like good guys and vice versa.


=============================================
As everyone will soon learn, all of the planets have Hierarchies. The
leader of the one on Earth is Maitreya and He'll soon present His
credentials to all of humanity.
He'll inspire us to see ourselves as one huge family and to rebuild
the world based upon the principles of sharing, justice, brotherhood
and love. Everyone who's interested should remember that worshipping
Maitreya and any of the Masters of Wisdom is an impediment to
understanding. The future for mankind is incredibly bright.

More details: http://www.Share-International.org
 
Tom...
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:41 pm
Guest
On Oct 27, 9:26 am, rh777 <rohohalcon... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 30, 5:26 pm, Tom <danto... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
both superior technology and superior minds.  Are you worried that
they cannot outwit a few paranoid backwater rustics (galactically
speaking) unless *you* help them?

No not at all.  We have to help ourselves though. The Space Brothers
are required to obey certain laws.  One very important law is that
they can't infringe mankind's free will.

Except for the anal probes of course.

Quote:
It is very helpful for us to pressure the news media to cover UFO
sitings.

Who is helped by reports of UFO sightings and how exactly are they
helped?

Quote:
It is also very helpful for us to spread information about
them to others.

You said they are about to show up and do that for themselves. Again,
who is helped and how exactly are they helped?

Quote:
On more civilized planets, the news media's role is to provide helpful
and imortant information to the people.

Like UFO sightings.

Quote:
On Earth the news media serves selfish and insanely greedy people. The
blind lead the blind. They are in it for money, and they uphold the
status quo.  They like having cheap labour/slaves.  In the USA for
example, they don't mention that the average worker in other developed
nations (even those with the worst jobs) get 6 or 7 weeks of paid
vacation time per year, and that everyone has health care.

Ah, the ubiquitous "they"! "They" are guilty of all manner of
things. If not one of "them" then certainly another of "them".

"They" are communists, capitalists, racists, Jews, pod-people,
reptilians, atheists, fundamentalists, Islamis terrorists, the
government, the Illuminati, and whatever else you can think of that
you might not like. That "they" are not at all the same has nothing
to do with it. They are "they", the Bad Guys.

I've heard plenty of news media in the US talk about health care in
other industrialized countries. That your particular factoid doesn't
get repeated every day by all of them means absolutely nothing about
what "they" are suppressing.

Quote:
As everyone will soon learn, all of the planets have Hierarchies. The
leader of the one on Earth is Maitreya and He'll soon present His
credentials to all of humanity.

Let's just wait until the Space Brothers have shown themselves to
everybody before we start submitting our nominations.
 
rh777...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:26 am
Guest
the british government pays farmers to destroy crop circles.

The truth threatens the status quo.


Check these out!

http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html

The cover-up people have most people believing that crop circles are
man-made hoaxes.

If they are geometrically perfect they are real.

=============
"Man must change or die.
There is no other course."
The world Teacher
http://www.Share-International.org
Quote:

Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
both superior technology and superior minds.  Are you worried that
they cannot outwit a few paranoid backwater rustics (galactically
speaking) unless *you* help them?

No not at all.  We have to help ourselves though. The Space Brothers
are required to obey certain laws.  One very important law is that
they can't infringe mankind's free will. The more people open their
minds to them, the more the law enables them to help us. The more of
us who cooperate with them and the Plan, the better.

It is very helpful for us to pressure the news media to coverUFO
sitings. It is also very helpful for us to spread information about
them to others.

On more civilized planets, the news media's role is to provide helpful
and imortant information to the people.

On Earth the news media serves selfish and insanely greedy people. The
blind lead the blind. They are in it for money, and they uphold the
status quo.  They like having cheap labour/slaves.  In the USA for
example, they don't mention that the average worker in other developed
nations (even those with the worst jobs) get 6 or 7 weeks of paid
vacation time per year, and that everyone has health care. They don't
mention that we spend more than all the other nations combined on
military and that the military often picks fights with others since
peace is their biggest threat.   Rather than point out major
differences that make other nations more democratic and comfortable,
the US news media supresses that information because they support the
status quo.  They don't want to see change. They like things just the
way they are.  As Malcolm X pointed out, they can make villains look
like good guys and vice versa.

=============================================
As everyone will soon learn, all of the planets have Hierarchies. The
leader of the one on Earth is Maitreya and He'll soon present His
credentials to all of humanity.
He'll inspire us to see ourselves as one huge family and to rebuild
the world based upon the principles of sharing, justice, brotherhood
and love. Everyone who's interested should remember that worshipping
Maitreya and any of the Masters of Wisdom is an impediment to
understanding. The future for mankind is incredibly bright.

More details:  http://www.Share-International.org
 
knowbuddee...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:12 am
Guest
The british government pays farmers to destroy crop circles. The
truth threatens the status quo/world's biggest monopolies, but it will
eventually set us free. The cover-up people have most people
believing that crop circles are man-made hoaxes. If they are
geometrically perfect they are real. Check these out!

http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html

"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)

Obviously, they have been very successful,but the coverup will soon
become another relic of the past.

Dr. Stephen Greer with the disclosure group is trying to persuade the
Obama camp to end the coverup.
http://www.disclosureproject.org/

=======

We shall know the truth, and the truth shall set us free. It will set
us forever free from corrupt politicians and all the wars, hunger and
poverty that they create. It will set us free from the illusions and
misunderstandings that prevent us as individuals and as a group from
living up to our full potential. It is time for all of
humanity to learn about and experience first hand, the immense
beauty
and majesty that life on Earth is meant to be.

=======

Without sharing there can be no justice;
without justice there can be no peace;
without peace there can be no future...
Man must change or die.
There is no other course."
Maitreya, the World Teacher
http://www.share-international.org
 
jos boersema...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:33 pm
Guest
["Followup-To:" header set to talk.religion.newage.]
On 2009-11-02, rh777 <rohohalcon777 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:

the british government pays farmers to destroy crop circles.

The truth threatens the status quo.


Check these out!

http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html

The cover-up people have most people believing that crop circles are
man-made hoaxes.

If they are geometrically perfect they are real.

==============

"Man must change or die.
There is no other course."
The world Teacher
http://www.Share-International.org

Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
both superior technology and superior minds.  Are you worried that
they cannot outwit a few paranoid backwater rustics (galactically
speaking) unless *you* help them?

No not at all.  We have to help ourselves though. The Space Brothers
are required to obey certain laws.  One very important law is that
they can't infringe mankind's free will. The more people open their
minds to them, the more the law enables them to help us. The more of
us who cooperate with them and the Plan, the better.
[...]


How do you like this plan: http://www.jhwh.be ?

I'm not asking for whether it is a good or bad, true or false plan,
I'm asking whether you want to do it or not. I don't need to get
information on whether the plan is good or bad, true or false,
I already know. I need people to go do it with me.
--
 
 
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