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Linda Lee...
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:01 am
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On Sep 6, 2:26 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote:
Quote:
How “Christian” of them.  One of the first recorded “signs” of Apostle
Paul’s ministry:

Act 13:9  Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy
Ghost, set his eyes on him,
Act 13:10  And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou
child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not
cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
Act 13:11  And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and
thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately
there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking
some to lead him by the hand.
Act 13:12  Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being
astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.

Yeah, so am I, mainly because this isn’t the doctrine of the Messiah.
I love the book of Acts because it is a brilliantly written book.  I
would say that the only reason the Church ever canonized this book is
that it is a bridge that in part seems to justify Paul by telling his
3 different conversion stories and various journeys.  The twelve
Apostles, the Messiah and really anybody else are just afterthoughts
in this epic story of demons, angels, magical healings and we even
have a villain, the nasty Torah keeping Jews that didn’t follow after
Paul.

The corruption of scriptures runs deep.

Jer 8:8 “How do you say, ‘We are wise, and the Torah of Yahweh is with
us’? But look, the false pen of the scribe has worked falsehood.  9
“The wise shall be put to shame, they shall be broken down and caught.
See, they have rejected the Word of Yahweh, so what wisdom do they
have?

When I look at matters of spirit, I understand that the Torah was
written in a different language, one that is all but lost to the
world. The fact that all English translations of scriptures Christian
and Jewish are “Hellenized” is something I’ve come to understand.


Search results:
Book results for "all English translations of scriptures Christian and
Jewish are “Hellenized”"
The Dead Sea Scrolls: Hebrew Aramaic and Greek ... - by James H
Charlesworth, ... - 326 pages

So this is where you plagiarized some of your post, antichrist
Snowjob. You're reduced to plagiarizing others's writings because you
are incapable of original thought and are too lazy to put forth the
effort, so you attempt to make a name for yourself off the efforts and
ideas of others by illegally plagiarizing their works. Shame.
 
guardian Snow...
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:18 pm
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On Sep 12, 3:01 am, Linda Lee <lindagirl... at (no spam) juno.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 6, 2:26 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote:



How “Christian” of them.  One of the first recorded “signs” of Apostle
Paul’s ministry:

Act 13:9  Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy
Ghost, set his eyes on him,
Act 13:10  And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou
child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not
cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
Act 13:11  And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and
thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately
there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking
some to lead him by the hand.
Act 13:12  Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being
astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.

Yeah, so am I, mainly because this isn’t the doctrine of the Messiah.
I love the book of Acts because it is a brilliantly written book.  I
would say that the only reason the Church ever canonized this book is
that it is a bridge that in part seems to justify Paul by telling his
3 different conversion stories and various journeys.  The twelve
Apostles, the Messiah and really anybody else are just afterthoughts
in this epic story of demons, angels, magical healings and we even
have a villain, the nasty Torah keeping Jews that didn’t follow after
Paul.

The corruption of scriptures runs deep.

Jer 8:8 “How do you say, ‘We are wise, and the Torah of Yahweh is with
us’? But look, the false pen of the scribe has worked falsehood.  9
“The wise shall be put to shame, they shall be broken down and caught..
See, they have rejected the Word of Yahweh, so what wisdom do they
have?

When I look at matters of spirit, I understand that the Torah was
written in a different language, one that is all but lost to the
world. The fact that all English translations of scriptures Christian
and Jewish are “Hellenized” is something I’ve come to understand.

Search results:
Book results for "all English translations of scriptures Christian and
Jewish are “Hellenized”"
The Dead Sea Scrolls: Hebrew Aramaic and Greek ... - by James H
Charlesworth, ... - 326 pages

So this is where you plagiarized some of your post, antichrist
Snowjob.  You're reduced to plagiarizing others's writings because you
are incapable of original thought and are too lazy to put forth the
effort, so you attempt to make a name for yourself off the efforts and
ideas of others by illegally plagiarizing their works. Shame.

So, it's your opinion that if two people agree on a topic, one must be
a plagiarist, Interesting. I am reading a book on the Dead Sea
Scroll's but not by that author. I think it's interesting that we all
agree on it but still you cling to the Hellenized understanding.

You're entitled to your opinion Linda but you sound like a scorned
woman...
 
Fred A Stover...
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:32 am
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guardian Snow wrote: <snip>

Christians teach the doctrines of Christ.

It is you who tries to make the curse His doctrine.


Zech. 5:3
Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face
of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this
side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on
that side according to it.



--
His,

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shall not receive the kingdom of God
as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
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Fred A Stover...
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:24 am
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guardian Snow wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 15, 7:32 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fsto... at (no spam) tx.rr.com> wrote:
guardian Snow wrote: <snip

Christians teach the doctrines of Christ.

Christians teach the doctrine of Paul ONLY. The "Christian" example.
attack everybody else, call them unrighteous and spread their mental
illness of book burnings and witch hunts. NOT because of the Messiah
but because of false apostle Paul who Christians use Orwellian leaps
of logic to say they preached the same religion.

ROTFL!!!!!!!

Jesus and Paul both teach Jesus's doctrine. Christians use no leaps to
proclaim the gospel of Jesus, they're simply brighter than you,
understanding the teachings of Jesus and scripture. You don't understand
them.

<snip>

Zech. 5:3
Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face
of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this
side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on
that side according to it.



--
His,

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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever
shall not receive the kingdom of God
as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
(Mark 10:15)
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guardian Snow...
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:51 am
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On Sep 16, 6:24 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fsto... at (no spam) tx.rr.com> wrote:

Quote:
Christians teach the doctrine of Paul ONLY.  The "Christian" example.
attack everybody else, call them unrighteous and spread their mental
illness of book burnings and witch hunts.  NOT because of the Messiah
but because of false apostle Paul who Christians use Orwellian leaps
of logic to say they preached the same religion.

ROTFL!!!!!!!

Jesus and Paul both teach Jesus's doctrine. Christians use no leaps to
proclaim the gospel of Jesus, they're simply brighter than you,
understanding the teachings of Jesus and scripture. You don't understand
them.

Mat 11:29 “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am meek and
humble in heart, and you shall find rest for your beings.

Gal 5:1 In the freedom with which Messiah has made us free, stand
firm, then, and do not again be held with a yoke of slavery.

Mat 11:30 “For My yoke is gentle and My burden is light.â€

2Co 12:16 But be it so, I did not burden you. But being crafty, did I
catch you with guile?

Any person with common sense can see the difference, what does that
say about Christians that believe as you do?

Just because you choose not to see the difference, does not mean you
have the truth. You choose not to see what is plainly before your
eyes because without Paul, you know that one is required to obey the
Ten Commandments, the covenant of Yahweh.

Mat 19:17 And He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good
except One – Elohim. But if you wish to enter into life, guard the
commands.â€

It is in fact the teachings of the Messiah, the Prophets, Moses and
YAHWEH you have rebelled against and rejected. Some Pastors hate the
truth! They will jump through hoops to make sure that people never
look at Restored Name versions of scriptures. They don’t want you to
have access to the truth either because if you did, you would leave
their congregations yesterday. They don’t want you to know one simple
thing, the name of the Messiah’s deity, YAHWEH, praise his name.

Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the
name of YHWH shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem
shall be deliverance, as YHWH hath said, and in the remnant whom YHWH
shall call.

Mar 15:34 And at the ninth hour Yehoshua cried out with a loud voice,
saying, “Ěli, Äšli, lamah sheḇaqtani?â€1 which is translated, “My Äšl,
My Äšl, why have You forsaken Me?â€
Footnote: 1 In Hebrew - “Eli, Eli lamah azaḇtani†- as per Ps. 22:1.

They hate the truth because it makes them uncomfortable knowing they
are the preachers of the Dragon of Revelation.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make
war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of YHWH,
and have the testimony of Yehoshua the Messiah.

The Church of the Dragon is any church that preaches against the 10
commandments of YHWH.

Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.†’

Shalom,
*´¨)
¸.•´ ¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨)
(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)

When you truly give up trying to be whole through others, you end up
receiving what you always wanted from others. You create your
opportunities by asking for them.
Shakti Gawain

Respond directly:
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/

http://www.isr-messianic.org/ <- download scriptures free

http://e-sword-users.org/
Free bible software

And now here is my secret, a very simple secret; it is only with the
heart that one can see rightly, what is essential is invisible to the
eye. 'Men have forgotten this truth,' said the fox. 'But you must not
forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.'
Antoine de Saint-Exupery
 
guardian Snow...
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:48 pm
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On Sep 23, 6:58 am, jwsheffi... at (no spam) satx.rr.com wrote:

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Yes, I assumed you would want to stop being an idiot.
You'll continue being an idiot in spite of being told of it?

   I think St. Paul spoke of people
   like him.

Joh 5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and
seek not the honour that cometh from Elohim only?
Joh 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is
one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he
wrote of me.
Joh 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my
words?- Hide quoted text -

How ironic. I'm certain Apostle Paul did speak of people like me but
not in a context you would know or understand. Unfortunately for you,
Paul has no authority and neither do you. In your disbelief you have
become absolutely powerless to do anything but pass on mind viruses of
what you call your religion.

Isa 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become
weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many
sleep.

WAKE UP...

Isa 29:10 For YAHWEH hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep
sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the
seers hath he covered.
Isa 29:11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a
book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Isa 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned,
saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Isa 29:13 Wherefore YAHWEH said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me
with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed
their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the
precept of men:
Isa 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work
among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom
of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent
men shall be hid.
 
Fred A Stover...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:30 am
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guardian Snow wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 23, 6:58am, jwsheffi... at (no spam) satx.rr.com wrote:

Yes, I assumed you would want to stop being an idiot.
You'll continue being an idiot in spite of being told of it?

I think St. Paul spoke of people
like him.

Joh 5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another,
and seek not the honour that cometh from Elohim only?
Joh 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there
is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for
he wrote of me.
Joh 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe
my words?- Hide quoted text -

How ironic. I'm certain Apostle Paul did speak of people like me but
not in a context you would know or understand. Unfortunately for you,
Paul has no authority and neither do you. In your disbelief you have
become absolutely powerless to do anything but pass on mind viruses of
what you call your religion.

Isa 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become
weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many
sleep.

WAKE UP...


Yes, wake up. When the owner of the body and the owner of the spirit (Job 1)
came into agreement on what was given, the legalists worshipped the devil,
honoring his constraints more than the Lord's love. You're no different than
your forerunners, "ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when
he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves" (Mt
23:15).


--
His,

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Verily I say unto you, Whosoever
shall not receive the kingdom of God
as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
(Mark 10:15)
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Isa 29:10 For YAHWEH hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep
sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the
seers hath he covered.
Isa 29:11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a
book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying,
Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Isa 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned,
saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Isa 29:13 Wherefore YAHWEH said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me
with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed
their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the
precept of men:
Isa 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work
among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom
of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent
men shall be hid.
 
singin4free...
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:15 pm
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On Sep 29, 8:46 am, guardian Snow <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote:

Quote:

My Christian brothers have built the entire dogma of their faith
around the premises that, “Christ is our righteousness”.  The problem
that I see with this premise is that it provides zero motivation for
them to be better people.  

The motivation comes from the Holy Spirit.
 
Fred A Stover...
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:57 am
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guardian Snow wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 26, 8:38 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fsto... at (no spam) tx.rr.com> wrote:

I see a lot of preachings about faith but if that were true then
even demons and Satan is saved.

It is faith in Christ, not faith in anything.>>> --
His,

It's a false faith when you don't actually follow the Messiah's
revelation of the Father.

"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Rom 10:17),
but you do not hear. He criticized the legalism to which you adhere:
"hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he
is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves" (Matt
23:15), serving your father the devil.

Quote:

My Christian brothers have built the entire dogma of their faith
around the premises that, "Christ is our righteousness". The problem
that I see with this premise is that it provides zero motivation for
them to be better people. This is not because they follow the
teachings of the Messiah but because they follow the teachings of
Paul.

More of your lies. Christians are "in Christ" who is righteous.

Quote:

Now Christians love to argue that Paul and the Messiah preached the
same religion and if this is the case then why don't they keep the 10
commandments?

Now? Christians have always proclaimed the same religion as Jesus, Paul,
and all His followers. Christians understand the law and the condemnation
from which we have been set free. They know that it is a step in the
redemption of mankind from the fall of Adam, and in the garden the only
restriction was not to eat of one tree, and even that is gone when we are
restored. Still don't see which party you're serving? (Job 1.)


<snip>


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His,

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shall not receive the kingdom of God
as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
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Fred A Stover...
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:57 am
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singin4free wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 29, 8:46am, guardian Snow <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote:


My Christian brothers have built the entire dogma of their faith
around the premises that, Christ is our righteousness. The problem
that I see with this premise is that it provides zero motivation for
them to be better people.

The motivation comes from the Holy Spirit.


Who reveals His truth:

1 Cor. 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for
they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are
spiritually discerned.
 
guardian Snow...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:28 am
Guest
On Sep 30, 9:57 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fsto... at (no spam) tx.rr.com> wrote:

Quote:
"Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Rom 10:17),
but you do not hear. He criticized the legalism to which you adhere:
"hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he
is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves" (Matt
23:15), serving your father the devil.

Buddha said, “He is able who thinks he is able. All that we are is
the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an
evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure
thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him.
All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can
wrong-doing remain?”

The POWER of Belief is unchanging and awesome. Change your beliefs
and you can change your life. You are the product of your beliefs.

Rev 14:12 Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those
guarding the commands of Elohim AND the belief of Yehoshua.

“Conflict cannot survive without your participation.”
Wayne Dyer

Modern science can’t explain it away except to call it the, “Placebo
effect”. Pills, potions and even false surgeries have been conducted
to study the power of belief. Endorphins begin the healing effects
on those who simply believe, that is science fact. All that is needed
or required is already with you and that power resides in your belief.

Gen 15:6 And he believed in Yahweh, and He reckoned it to him for
righteousness.

Do not doubt that because people believed, they were healed according
to several New Testament passages and this belief is the work of the
SPIRIT of Yahweh according to the law of manifestation.

Deu 11:18 ‘And you shall lay up these Words of Mine in your heart and
in your being, and shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they
shall be as frontlets between your eyes.

Belief is power and in this power we must believe in order to manifest
the spirit that is within us all. Belief is a work that we must
consciously exercise at all times keeping the word always on our mind,
a positive healing and loving word.

Jas 2:17 So also belief, if it does not have works, is in itself dead.

Our works are the fruit of our belief and if you have no works of
faith, your belief will die on the vine. Belief then is a work and
must be steadily fixated upon in the present moment.

Psa 78:22 Because they did not believe in Elohim, Neither did they
trust in His deliverance.

Learning to trust in the deliverance of Yahweh is the final step that
is the fruit of our labors in the truth. I am careful to speak
primarily of works because we cannot behave as demons and expect or
assume that we shall be forgiven. Belief and works of law are
conjoined in spirit to flesh manifestation and we must be without
conflict in our understanding:

Jas 1:6 But he should ask in belief, not doubting, for he who doubts
is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
Jas 1:7 For that man should not think that he shall receive whatever
from the Master –
Jas 1:8 he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

Do not be unstable in your belief, when you know that your works are
righteousness in the now, do not be afraid to manifest the spirit that
is within you and seek his will without doubts because only then can
we hope to be like our teacher, Yehoshua the Messiah of Yahweh.

Mat 9:22 But Yehoshua turned, and when He saw her He said, “Take
courage, daughter, your belief has healed you.” And the woman was
healed from that hour.

You get what you think about and what you believe, you manifest. How
often have I spoken of works and those who are lost in dogma think
that I have no understanding of belief and yet, if we truly take in
the true counsel, we understand that we must believe NOW, this moment,
the only moment that will ever be, we have been made whole again and
never again return to the old outmoded dogmatic way of thinking that
is unforgiveness of ourselves.

The Messiah didn’t just heal based on works, he healed many times
based simply on the belief of those he spoke with and so when we speak
of works it should be that we keep the law of manifestation of the
spirit.

Joh 9:1 And passing by, He saw a man, blind from birth.
Joh 9:2 And His taught ones asked Him, saying, “Rabbi, who sinned,
this man or his parents, that he should be born blind?”
Joh 9:3 Yehoshua answered, “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,
but that the works of Elohim might be made manifest in him.

How many today are born blind that you too can manifest the works of
Elohim on earth? Do you not believe in the spirit that heals? Of
course you do or you wouldn’t have taken the time to consider this
teaching that you too are to manifest the spirit of healing.

Joh 14:21 “He who possesses My commands and guards them, it is he who
loves Me. And he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I shall
love him and manifest Myself to him.”

That Yehoshua has manifested the spirit, that is Yahweh, is something
lost to those who strive in only dogma and live in perpetual
unforgiveness because they have not learned to forgive first, without
expectation for that in itself negates the present, the NOW.

Mat 6:12 ‘And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

I urge you now that if you have not forgiven somebody, do so now that
you might receive forgiveness. We do not receive healing by demanding
that other people apologize, we simply forgive them.

Jas 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by his
good behavior his works in meekness of wisdom.

The now is all that there is. One of the great commands of
scriptures:

Mar 12:31 “And the second, like it, is this, ‘You shall love your
neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other command greater than these.”

Many people fail to recognize that you must LOVE YOURSELF. How can
you love your neighbor and hate yourself? A lot of my Christian
brothers must really loath themselves by the display of “love” that I
see being projected many times and this speaks to the disconnection
that they have with YAHWEH.

“The story of the human race is the story of men and women selling
themselves short.”
Abraham Maslow

Maslow sold himself short as so many of us have done and continue to
do. The scriptures teach that you have being granted the power of
creation:

Pro 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue, And those
loving it eat its fruit.

Stop eating the fruits of death and start believing in the power of
the tongue with conscious focus on the present moment:

Deu 30:19 “I have called the heavens and the earth as witnesses today
against you: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and
the curse. Therefore you shall *choose life*, so that you live, both
you and your seed,

Life is a choice that comes from your belief. You are healed and have
already been forgiven of sin and if you are forgiven, you are
righteous, so continue in that righteousness by holding firm to the
word.

Mat 22:39 “And the second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor
AND yourself.’

You’ll notice that I changed it to “and yourself” for how can you love
another unless you love yourself first? If your own life is in
shambles, how can you help another? You are created in the image of
the almighty, to love yourself first is to love that spirit planted in
you.

Isn’t it interested in arguing over petty dogmas, so many forgot to
love themselves first and I thought this would be a good time to
remind all of you:

YOU created in the very image of Elohim, You are a treasured
possession and you need to stop beating yourselves up, it serves
nothing good to go around in apathetic disconnection.

Having been created in the image of the Father, you have all that you
need to manifest the spirit and put into practice your true being.
Barak Obama had it right when he said, “Yes, We Can” and this is one
of the few things I agree with him about, a positive affirmation is
one that goes a long way.

Joh 3:34 “For He whom Elohim has sent speaks the Words of Elohim, for
Elohim does not give the Spirit by measure.

Perfection resides in you and when you do the will of Yahweh, which is
perfect, the spirit will assist you in all your endeavors. So many
people, especially Christians beat each other up mentally and walk
away thinking they are unscathed.

Life is in the spirit… such an important scriptural understanding. In
our service to other people, we should never forget that our beliefs
are important if and when they connect with the spirit of truth.

Joh 6:63 “It is the Spirit that gives life, the flesh does not profit
at all. The words that I speak to you are Spirit and are life.”

Understanding spirit is in this moment and no other. To want is to
say that you lack.

Psa 23:1 Yahweh is my shepherd; I do not lack.

Understanding spirit has already provided all that you need is the
great realization that says, instead of asking for your daily bread,
give thanks that you have already received and know that Yahweh has
already provided.

One of the great hindrances to spiritual growth is that we spend our
time always in expectation and yet, will our heavenly Father not
provide for you? Is it that hard to understand that all that you
need is already being delivered to you already? Everything that you
need already exist and Yahweh is just waiting for you to be ready to
receive. Allow me to break this down…

Mat 7:7 “Ask and it shall be given to you,

“Shall be given” .. In other words, you do not have it now and you
lack. So why should you ask if you do not lack? Instead given thanks
knowing that all that you need is already yours.

seek and you shall find,
“Shall find”, in other words, it remains in the future and you do not
have.

knock and it shall be opened to you.

Remember that the wake of a boat does not determine its course. James
is probably the most inspired New Testament writer outside of the
Messiah in this important understanding:

Jas 3:3 Look, we put bits in the mouths of horses, for them to obey
us, and we turn their body.
Jas 3:4 Look at the ships too: although they are so big and are driven
by strong winds, they are turned by a very small rudder wherever the
pilot intends.
Jas 3:5 So too the tongue is a little member, yet boasts greatly. See
how a little fire kindles a great forest!

Change course by your belief and speak of the life that you have NOW.
Do you not know that it has already been given to you? You are
created in the image of the father and so as YAHWEH Creates, so should
you being One with his Spirit.

Gen 1:3 And Elohim said, “Let light come to be,” and light came to be.

Understanding that it is the spirit that manifested light brings us to
the understanding of is really meant in John 1: 14 “And the Word
became flesh”. So often in dogmatic faith, we read things and then
add our own understanding to what is written.

This does not say Jesus became flesh, rather the word became ALL FLESH
in the beginning and it continues to manifest by the spirit to this
day. The spirit does nothing and yet, nothing is left undone. Yahweh
hasn’t changed and yet, change is inevitable but it must be you that
is willing to change.

Deu 4:36 “From the heavens He let you hear His voice, to instruct you,
and on earth He showed you His great fire, and you heard His words out
of the midst of the fire.
Deu 4:37 “And because He loved your fathers, therefore He chose their
seed after them, and brought you out of Mitsrayim with His Presence,
with His great power,
Deu 4:38 to drive out from before you nations greater and stronger
than you, to bring you in, to give you their land as an inheritance,
as it is today.

Not Yesterday, not tomorrow, TODAY is the day and NOW is the time for
you to receive the blessing by your belief. Begin to understand,
Yahweh is your strength, you are made strong by your belief!

Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.” ’

Shalom,
*´¨)
¸.•´ ¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨)
(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)

“Begin to see yourself as a soul with a body rather than a body with a
soul.”
Wayne Dyer

Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [translated
Yahweh] your Elohim to naught, for Yahweh does not leave the one
unpunished who brings His Name to naught.

Respond directly:
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/

http://www.isr-messianic.org/ <- download scriptures free
http://messianicyehoshua.googlegroups.com/web/RNKJV.zip
Restored Names King James for E-sword

“A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.
Courage is like love; it must have hope for nourishment.”
Napoleon Bonaparte

“A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read.”
Mark Twain
 
guardian Snow...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:09 am
Guest
“For what then do you need a Saviour?â€

An excellent question and one that many people lost in dogma have
resisted understanding in worship of the flesh of Messiah Yehoshua.
The scriptures of the Hebrew prophets teach us several reasons,
Yehoshua was to be the “light of the gentiles†but they have rejected
him and instead follow after a translation and collection of works.

Isa 53:11 He would see the result of the suffering of His life and be
satisfied. Through His knowledge, My righteous Servant makes many
righteous, and He bears their crookednesses.

Many do not consider that the entire reason for sending his Messiah is
simply to teach us the knowledge of Elohim and to build the
congregation of YAHWEH.

“Ambition drove many men to become false; to have one thought locked
in the breast, another ready on the tongue.â€
Sallust

The prophet Isaiah said that the Messiah:

Isa 49:6 and He says, “Shall it be a small matter for You to be My
Servant to
(1) raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to
(2) bring back the preserved ones of Isra’ĕl?
(3) And I shall give You as a light to the gentiles,
(4) to be -My deliverance- to the ends of the earth!â€

In this one verse, we read 4 different missions of the Messiah, the
Servant of Yahweh. This teaching is confirmed in the Good News:

Luk 2:32 a light for the unveiling of the gentiles, and the esteem of
Your people Yisra’ĕl.â€

Matthew specifically says:

Mat 4:14 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the
prophet, saying,
Mat 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them
which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. (Isa
9:2)

The understanding here should not be confused with simply being the
Flesh of Yehoshua for that ‘GREAT LIGHT’ was Yahweh, it was the
indwelling spirit that gives life. In understanding the principles of
the great light we must consider what is darkness? Of “Lucifer†the
dark branch that sees no dawn he convinces the people to ask:

Isa 14:10 “All of them respond and say to you, ‘Have you also become
as weak as we? Have you become like us?

That which makes you WEAK is darkness and with this comes illness in
the physical manifestation and eventually followed by death. Illness
after all begins in the mind and is the manifestation of that which is
in opposition to the spirit of YAHWEH our healer.

Exo 15:26 And He said, “If you diligently obey the voice of YAHWEH
your Elohim and do what is right in His eyes, and shall listen to His
commands and shall guard all His laws, I shall bring on you none of
the diseases I brought on the Mitsrites, for I am YAHWEH who heals
you.â€

When we understand that it is the SPIRIT of Yahweh that heals, we
recognize to stop looking outside our own being because when we obey
the voice of Yahweh, we are connected to that infinite power.

Some people seem to have an issue with the idea of obedience to the
Torah and yet when one refers to the command, we recognize that we are
to “do what is right in his eyesâ€. I can’t think of any person that
would argue against doing what is right. So, in my opinion the
problem resides in how some people perceive the commands of Yahweh and
even further in dogmatic translations because at the most basic
understanding, it is the command that we do what is right and
righteous.

Almost all of Isaiah is written about the “light of the gentilesâ€:

Isa 60:3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the
brightness of thy rising.

So, all the people of that day and age knew that the Messiah was for
the gentiles.

Mar 2:17 When Yahushua heard it, he saith unto them, They that are
whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came
not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

First off, the idea that you are unable to be righteous, not true.
Yehoshua came for the SINNERS, which is to say those who transgress
the Torah of Yahweh that they might be called out of rebellion.

Luk 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Many people do not understand that he spoke in parables all the time.
When we understand that as a teacher, the messiah came to make others
strong mentally, physically and spiritually, we start to return to the
core understanding of what is Christ.

Luk 1:76 “And you, child, shall be called prophet of the Most High,
for you shall go before the face of Yahweh to prepare His ways,
Luk 1:77 to give knowledge of deliverance to His people, by the
forgiveness of their sins,
Luk 1:78 through the tender compassion of our Elohim, with which the
daybreak from on high has looked upon us,
Luk 1:79 to give light to those who sit in darkness and the shadow of
death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.â€

In essence, we must learn to be like Messiah but in reality we all
need a savior at times. If you are depressed, help somebody else in
need and in this we obey the spirit.

Mat 7:12 “Therefore, whatever you wish men to do to you, do also to
them, for this is the Torah and the Prophets.

Live your life by the golden rule and consider this:

Joh 14:20 “In that day you shall know that I am in My Father, and you
in Me, and I in you.
Joh 14:21 “He who possesses My commands and guards them, it is he who
loves Me. And he who loves Me shall be loved by My Father, and I shall
love him and manifest Myself to him.â€

Guarding the commands, teaching as Yehoshua taught and taking up his
walk in life, can save and by definition make you a savior of souls.
You can be a living example and be as the Master.

Luk 6:40 “A taught one is not above his teacher, but everyone
perfected shall be like his teacher.â€

Be like the Messiah, make others strong in faith, teach forgiveness of
sins and turning the other cheek and all that he commanded.
Ultimately it is the spirit of Yahweh that is our savior and this
unlimited, all powerful spirit can be manifested according to the
Torah by obedience and belief but first… physician, heal thyself.

Num 6:24 “Yahweh bless you and guard you;
Num 6:25 Yahweh make His face shine upon you, and show favour to you;
Num 6:26 Yahweh lift up His face upon you, and give you peace.â€

Respond directly:
http://groups.google.com/group/messianicYehoshua
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/messianic_Yehoshua/

Shalom,
*´¨)
¸.•´ ¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨)
(¸.•´ (¸.• (Snow(.¸.•*´¨)

Begin to see yourself as a soul with a body rather than a body with a
soul.
Wayne Dyer

Exo 20:7 “You do not bring the Name of 'Yud-Heh-Vav-Heh [translated
Yahweh] your Elohim to naught, for Yahweh does not leave the one
unpunished who brings His Name to naught.

A few can touch the magic string, and noisy fame is proud to win them:
Alas for those that never sing, but die with all their music in them!
Oliver Wendell Holmes

Don't be afraid to give your best to what seemingly are small jobs.
Every time you conquer one it makes you that much stronger. If you do
the little jobs well, the big ones will tend to take care of
themselves.
Dale Carnegie
 
jwsheffield at (no spam) satx.rr.com...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:31 am
Guest
On Oct 17, 1:09 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote:
“For what then do you need a Saviour?”

1Jo 2:2 - And he is the propitiation for our sins:
and not for ours only,
but also for the sins of the whole world.
 
guardian Snow...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:57 am
Guest
On Oct 18, 6:31 am, "jwsheffi... at (no spam) satx.rr.com"
<jwsheffi... at (no spam) satx.rr.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 17, 1:09 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote:
 “For what then do you need a Saviour?â€

1Jo 2:2 - And he is the propitiation for our sins:
           and not for ours only,
           but also for the sins of the whole world.

Isa 45:21 “Declare and bring near, let them even take counsel
together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has declared it from
that time? Is it not I, YAHWEH? And there is no mighty one besides Me,
a righteous Äšl and a Saviour, there is none besides Me.
Isa 45:22 “Turn to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I
am Äšl, and there is none else.

Joh 4:24 “Elohim is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship
in spirit and truth.â€
 
singin4free...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:21 am
Guest
On Oct 17, 3:57 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 18, 6:31 am, "jwsheffi... at (no spam) satx.rr.com"

jwsheffi... at (no spam) satx.rr.com> wrote:
On Oct 17, 1:09 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo... at (no spam) eck.net.au> wrote:
 “For what then do you need a Saviour?â€

1Jo 2:2 - And he is the propitiation for our sins:
           and not for ours only,
           but also for the sins of the whole world.

Isa 45:21 “Declare and bring near, let them even take counsel
together. Who has announced this from of old? Who has declared it from
that time? Is it not I, YAHWEH? And there is no mighty one besides Me,
a righteous Äšl and a Saviour, there is none besides Me.
Isa 45:22 “Turn to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I
am Äšl, and there is none else.

Joh 4:24 “Elohim is Spirit, and those who worship Him need to worship
in spirit and truth.â€

Since Yeshua was Yahweh made manifest in the flesh, he of course is
the same Savior that is proclaimed in your posted verse from Isaiah
45:21-22. John said in John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word and
the Word was with God and the Word WAS God" . He also said in John
1:14, "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us and we beheld
his glory..."

You erred greatly in one of your previous posts when you said John
1:14 says that the Word was not made Yeshua but all flesh. That is
contradicted in the very verse you take it from: "we beheld HIS
glory", not the glory of all flesh but the glory of Yeshua, "the glory
of the only begotten Son of God", not anyone else, just HIM. He is the
Word made flesh. YOU are NOT the Word made flesh and neither am I. We
are created beings, but He is from eternity one with the Father and IS
God. He came a man, took on a body in order to lay it down of his own
free will for our sins. No man took it from him. He laid it down and
he took it up again. He, Jesus, Yeshua is Yahweh our Savior who came
down from heaven and bore our sins in his own body on the tree. You
call it dogma in order to denigrate it but no, it is Truth you oppose.
You ask if we need a Savior. The answer is unequivocally yes, we need
our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ the Messiah. We need the salvation
that is only by faith in him. Yes.
 
 
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