"Wyvren" <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:f388a0c7-e035-4755-bb1c-72215f1b622e at (no spam) t13g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...http://www.amazon.com/Lebor-Feasa-Runda-Druidic-Grammar/dp/1440102805...

[snippage]

It's a hoax, just like Mr. Akins attempt to invent a Scottish clan with
himself as the chief several years ago & has quite a rep as a neo-nazi
("Hitler is my hero.").  But don't take my word for it...

http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/lost-racist-book-of-ancient-celtic.html

"Wyvren" <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

So, have you read it? Or did you just read the review of it (which
seems to have been written by someone who hasn't actually read it
either)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've read enough of this guy's personal blitherings over on the OBOD boards
for some time now  (link provided in the link I provided), along with his
attempted bribery over his fake "Clan Akin" to know he's a racist, a hoaxter
and a con artist.

But hey, let's cut to the chase & ask an expert.  Phillip A. Bernhardt-House
holds a Ph.D. in Celtic Civilizations from University College Cork
(Ireland).  He has read the book and is not impressed.

http://community.livejournal.com/cr_r/318578.html

"Wyvren" <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

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On Sep 3, 11:01 pm, "Dana" <spambuc... at (no spam) euro-celts.dot.com> wrote:





"Wyvren" <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
So, have you read it? Or did you just read the review of it (which
seems to have been written by someone who hasn't actually read it
either)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've read enough of this guy's personal blitherings over on the OBOD
boards
for some time now (link provided in the link I provided), along with his
attempted bribery over his fake "Clan Akin" to know he's a racist, a
hoaxter
and a con artist.

But hey, let's cut to the chase & ask an expert. Phillip A.
Bernhardt-House
holds a Ph.D. in Celtic Civilizations from University College Cork
(Ireland). He has read the book and is not impressed.

http://community.livejournal.com/cr_r/318578.html

By his own admisson, Bernhardt-House doesn't appear to have actually
read the book either:

"In the interests of full disclosure, let me state from the beginning
that I have not seen the book with my own eyes, have not held it in my
hands, and indeed have not read the full contents of it; hence, this
present essay is a "preview" as much as it attempts to be a "review."

 - quoted from the source you cited.

Yup, I missed that...however, he does mention that he *has* read the
numerous quotations of it put out on assorted forums.

The guy's a well-known fraud.  Nuff said.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Wyvren" <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:f388a0c7-e035-4755-bb1c-72215f1b622e at (no spam) t13g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...http://www.amazon.com/Lebor-Feasa-Runda-Druidic-Grammar/dp/1440102805...

[snippage]

It's a hoax, just like Mr. Akins attempt to invent a Scottish clan with
himself as the chief several years ago & has quite a rep as a neo-nazi
("Hitler is my hero."). But don't take my word for it...

http://wildhunt.org/blog/2008/11/lost-racist-book-of-ancient-celtic.html

"Wyvren" <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

So, have you read it? Or did you just read the review of it (which
seems to have been written by someone who hasn't actually read it
either)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've read enough of this guy's personal blitherings over on the OBOD
boards
for some time now (link provided in the link I provided), along with his
attempted bribery over his fake "Clan Akin" to know he's a racist, a
hoaxter
and a con artist.

But hey, let's cut to the chase & ask an expert. Phillip A.
Bernhardt-House
holds a Ph.D. in Celtic Civilizations from University College Cork
(Ireland). He has read the book and is not impressed.

http://community.livejournal.com/cr_r/318578.html

"Wyvren" <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1953d3c1-19ae-4cf5-8ca0-87a617a2c942 at (no spam) z30g2000yqz.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 3, 11:01 pm, "Dana" <spambuc... at (no spam) euro-celts.dot.com> wrote:





"Wyvren" <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
So, have you read it? Or did you just read the review of it (which
seems to have been written by someone who hasn't actually read it
either)?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've read enough of this guy's personal blitherings over on the OBOD
boards
for some time now (link provided in the link I provided), along with his
attempted bribery over his fake "Clan Akin" to know he's a racist, a
hoaxter
and a con artist.

But hey, let's cut to the chase & ask an expert. Phillip A.
Bernhardt-House
holds a Ph.D. in Celtic Civilizations from University College Cork
(Ireland). He has read the book and is not impressed.

http://community.livejournal.com/cr_r/318578.html

By his own admisson, Bernhardt-House doesn't appear to have actually
read the book either:

"In the interests of full disclosure, let me state from the beginning
that I have not seen the book with my own eyes, have not held it in my
hands, and indeed have not read the full contents of it; hence, this
present essay is a "preview" as much as it attempts to be a "review."

- quoted from the source you cited.

Yup, I missed that...however, he does mention that he *has* read the
numerous quotations of it put out on assorted forums.

The guy's a well-known fraud. Nuff said.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Sep 4, 8:51 am, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Ok try reading what I said.

There is no reason for the Germans to have had this. Period. If it was
a precsious little bit of lore, it would not have gotten there.
Further the story is a Shaggy dog story.

There was very little reason for the Nazi's to commission a Celtic-
style cauldron made from 24 pounds of solid gold and then throw the
thing in Lake Chiemsee, but they didn't hesitate in doing just that:http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,478958,00.html

So, the Gundestrup Cauldron is "Celtic-style"? With Elephants and a
representation of Shiva on it?

Yeah, yeah, I know...the elephants are on there because Hannibal
crossed the Alps with them...uh huh, yeah, sure.

On Sep 4, 7:29 am, Wyvren <baron_samh... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:



On Sep 4, 8:51 am, Noinden <noin... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Ok try reading what I said.

There is no reason for the Germans to have had this. Period. If it was
a precsious little bit of lore, it would not have gotten there.
Further the story is a Shaggy dog story.

There was very little reason for the Nazi's to commission a Celtic-
style cauldron made from 24 pounds of solid gold and then throw the
thing in Lake Chiemsee, but they didn't hesitate in doing just that:http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,478958,00.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wyvren wrote:

Well, to be technical, the Gundestrup Cauldron is actually Cimbri -
the Cimbri/Cymry or Cimmerians (like the Gaels/Gauls/Galacians) having
originated in Scythia, then crossed over central Europe as they pushed
west into lands already inhabited by the Celts. The Celts absorbed
these eastern European settlers into their population, and adopted or
retained some of their culture, such as language and art - which is
why the descendants of the Celts living in Western Europe today speak
an Aryan (Indo-European) language that originated in the East around
Scythia/Iran/Aryana, even though these western European Celts are
predominately of native R1b haplotype DNA that is indigenous to
Western Europe.

That's not technical, that's absurd.

The Gundestrup Cauldron is pretty well accepted as being of Thracian work
(though perhaps itinerant Thracians) that came into Cimbri hands probably
due to being looted.

Wyvren wrote:

Well, to be technical, the Gundestrup Cauldron is actually Cimbri -
the Cimbri/Cymry or Cimmerians (like the Gaels/Gauls/Galacians) having
originated in Scythia, then crossed over central Europe as they pushed
west into lands already inhabited by the Celts. The Celts absorbed
these eastern European settlers into their population, and adopted or
retained some of their culture, such as language and art - which is
why the descendants of the Celts living in Western Europe today speak
an Aryan (Indo-European) language that originated in the East around
Scythia/Iran/Aryana, even though these western European Celts are
predominately of native R1b haplotype DNA that is indigenous to
Western Europe.

That's not technical, that's absurd.

"1X2Willows" <nos... at (no spam) least.invalid> wrote in message

news:h7sdq6$64b$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net...





Wyvren wrote:

Well, to be technical, the Gundestrup Cauldron is actually Cimbri -
the Cimbri/Cymry or Cimmerians (like the Gaels/Gauls/Galacians) having
originated in Scythia, then crossed over central Europe as they pushed
west into lands already inhabited by the Celts. The Celts absorbed
these eastern European settlers into their population, and adopted or
retained some of their culture, such as language and art - which is
why the descendants of the Celts living in Western Europe today speak
an Aryan (Indo-European) language that originated in the East around
Scythia/Iran/Aryana, even though these western European Celts are
predominately of native R1b haplotype DNA that is indigenous to
Western Europe.

That's not technical, that's absurd.

Last time I checked, the Cimbri/Cymry/Cimmerian connections is considered
fake etymology (you know I don't do linguistics, but I do know John T. Koch
refutes it in at least one of his books).  There are huge time jumps for a
start--the Cimmerians were flourishing around 1900 BCE and then fall off the
radar, the Cimbri were known in the 2nd century BCE and then fall off the
radar, while the term "Cymry" as designating Wales and the Welsh people
doesn't come into attestation until around the 4th and 5th centuries CE.  So
there is no provable connection unless you're willing to telescope several
centuries into nonexistence.

The Gundestrup Cauldron is pretty well accepted as being of Thracian work
(though perhaps itinerant Thracians) that came into Cimbri hands probably
due to being looted.

Last but not least, cutting-edge academia has basically junked the entire
concept of the "Aryans" as a fiction developed by 18th and 19th century
historians unable to accept that "blacks" could have achieved the degree of
civilization found in India.  One of the main figures of this long-overdue
rewrite is Dr. Greogry Possehl, (former) Prof. of Anthropology at the Univ.
of Pennsylvania, but there are others

For additional information I would refer you to:http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Gt5BDKyxjbcJ:www.davidkfaux.org/C...

Wyvren wrote:

I think there is a bit of apprehension over competition here,
especially where the tree-hugging, love, peace and light, hippy Druids
are concerned. Can't have anyone doubting their authenticity..... must
diss the alternative!

I'll take your head anytime, Supremacist Rat, if you have the cojones
to volunteer for a little experiment about authenticity