On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics. Eh, I'll find them on my own then. Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track. Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.

Cite a source.

TCross

Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics.  Eh, I'll find them on my own then.  Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track.  Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.

Cite a source.

TCross

Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??

Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics.  Eh, I'll find them on my own then.  Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track.  Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??

Is that like, "try the Public Library"?

I don't know Cross, depends on how stupid you are. If it takes the whole
library for you to understand what Jesus said then fine, use it!

Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.

Gee Cross, Ehrman just said it:-)))).

Since we are not dealing with
prosperity why don't I go back to the subject to which we were
discussing, the fact that Jesus was an itinerant  apocalyptic preacher
and that he expected the end to come soon.

Terry Cross wrote:
On Sep 1, 1:51 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics.  Eh, I'll find them on my own then..  Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track.  Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??
Is that like, "try the Public Library"?
I don't know Cross, depends on how stupid you are. If it takes the whole
library for you to understand what Jesus said then fine, use it!

Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.
Gee Cross, Ehrman just said it:-)))).

Stating something demonstrably untrue, Ehrman impeached his own
authority on the subject of Jesus.

Since we are not dealing with
prosperity why don't I go back to the subject to which we were
discussing, the fact that Jesus was an itinerant  apocalyptic preacher
and that he expected the end to come soon.

That was the assertion of your impeached authority, whom you refuse
now to defend.  Why should we give it serious consideration?

TCross

I did defend it Cross, did you ignore all of the verses which I cited? I
guess you did, just too damn stupid to understand.

On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics. Eh, I'll find them on my own then. Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track. Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??

Is that like, "try the Public Library"?

Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.

Did Jesus condemn those who retained their riches in the presence of
poverty, fattening their own coffers? Yes, Jesus did condemn that.
But that does not equate to "condemnation and judgement against those
who prospered in this age."

But since you think Mr. Ehrman's statement is true, cite your source.

TCross

On Sep 1, 1:51 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics. Eh, I'll find them on my own then. Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track. Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??
Is that like, "try the Public Library"?
I don't know Cross, depends on how stupid you are. If it takes the whole
library for you to understand what Jesus said then fine, use it!

Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.
Gee Cross, Ehrman just said it:-)))).

Stating something demonstrably untrue, Ehrman impeached his own
authority on the subject of Jesus.

Since we are not dealing with
prosperity why don't I go back to the subject to which we were
discussing, the fact that Jesus was an itinerant apocalyptic preacher
and that he expected the end to come soon.

That was the assertion of your impeached authority, whom you refuse
now to defend. Why should we give it serious consideration?

TCross

On Sep 1, 1:51 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics. Eh, I'll find them on my own then. Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track. Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??
Is that like, "try the Public Library"?
I don't know Cross, depends on how stupid you are. If it takes the whole
library for you to understand what Jesus said then fine, use it!

Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.
Gee Cross, Ehrman just said it:-)))).

Stating something demonstrably untrue, Ehrman impeached his own
authority on the subject of Jesus.

Since we are not dealing with
prosperity why don't I go back to the subject to which we were
discussing, the fact that Jesus was an itinerant apocalyptic preacher
and that he expected the end to come soon.

That was the assertion of your impeached authority, whom you refuse
now to defend. Why should we give it serious consideration?

TCross

On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics.  Eh, I'll find them on my own then.  Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track.  Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.

Cite a source.

TCross

Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??

Is that like, "try the Public Library"?

Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.

On Sep 1, 2:36 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Sep 1, 1:51 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics. Eh, I'll find them on my own then. Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track. Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??
Is that like, "try the Public Library"?
I don't know Cross, depends on how stupid you are. If it takes the whole
library for you to understand what Jesus said then fine, use it!
Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.
Gee Cross, Ehrman just said it:-)))).
Stating something demonstrably untrue, Ehrman impeached his own
authority on the subject of Jesus.
Since we are not dealing with
prosperity why don't I go back to the subject to which we were
discussing, the fact that Jesus was an itinerant apocalyptic preacher
and that he expected the end to come soon.
That was the assertion of your impeached authority, whom you refuse
now to defend. Why should we give it serious consideration?
TCross
I did defend it Cross, did you ignore all of the verses which I cited? I
guess you did, just too damn stupid to understand.

You did just exactly as I predicted in the post you answered: You
confused "rich" with "prosper," and cited verses about rich people and
none concerning prosperity.

I have met smarter doorknobs.

TCross

Terry Cross wrote:
On Sep 1, 2:36 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Sep 1, 1:51 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics. Eh, I'll find them on my own then. Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track. Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??
Is that like, "try the Public Library"?
I don't know Cross, depends on how stupid you are. If it takes the whole
library for you to understand what Jesus said then fine, use it!
Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.
Gee Cross, Ehrman just said it:-)))).
Stating something demonstrably untrue, Ehrman impeached his own
authority on the subject of Jesus.
Since we are not dealing with
prosperity why don't I go back to the subject to which we were
discussing, the fact that Jesus was an itinerant apocalyptic preacher
and that he expected the end to come soon.
That was the assertion of your impeached authority, whom you refuse
now to defend. Why should we give it serious consideration?
TCross
I did defend it Cross, did you ignore all of the verses which I cited? I
guess you did, just too damn stupid to understand.

You did just exactly as I predicted in the post you answered: You
confused "rich" with "prosper," and cited verses about rich people and
none concerning prosperity.

I have met smarter doorknobs.

TCross

I've never met a bigger ass. When you can see the forest instead of the
trees, let me know.

On Aug 27, 2:12 pm, "Dan Listermann" <d... at (no spam) listermann.com> wrote:

Can I ask you for evidence [of the existence of God]?

Your question has no practical purpose. It does not feed you nor find
you shelter. You cannot spend it, nor can you use it to beget
progeny.

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 12:03:35 -0700 (PDT), Terry Cross <tcross77 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics. Eh, I'll find them on my own then. Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track. Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??
Is that like, "try the Public Library"?

Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.


Matthew 9:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a
needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man
to enter into the kingdom of God.

Luke 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man
to enter into the kingdom of God.

You did just exactly as I predicted in the post you answered: You
confused "rich" with "prosper," and cited verses about rich people and
none concerning prosperity.

On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 15:44:13 -0700 (PDT), Terry Cross <tcross77 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

You did just exactly as I predicted in the post you answered: You
confused "rich" with "prosper," and cited verses about rich people and
none concerning prosperity.

More dishonest TC semantics.

Terry Cross wrote:
On Sep 1, 4:00 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Sep 1, 2:36 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Sep 1, 1:51 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 1:47 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 31, 12:35 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
On Aug 30, 6:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr. House wrote:
On Aug 30, 12:09 pm, Ralph <mmman... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
Heh, Jesus was an itinerant Jewish apocalyptic preacher, nothing more,
nothing less. Read the scriptures that were not doctored by the early
church and you will see.
Which scriptures would you recommend specifically for that evidence?
The ones that reference things like...that the law shall not be
changed... that Jesus would return soon....that Jesus was not the 'son
of man'...that the kingdom of god was earthly...that Jesus believed his
disciples would rule the twelve kingdoms and outside of the scriptures
the majority opinion of biblical scholars that Jesus was an apocalyptic
prophet.
Well I know the Bible is a hoge poge of different ideas because it's
various authors did not agree about many things, but I was hopping you
would have more specifics.  Eh, I'll find them on my own then.  Thanks
anyway.
I was looking for a new book to order and found this statement by Ehrman
regarding the apocalyptic prophet:
"The Jesus of history, contrary to modern "common sense"...was not a
proponent of "family values." He urged his followers to abandon their
homes and forsake families for the sake of the Kingdom that was soon to
arrive. He didn't encourage people to pursue fulfilling careers, make a
good living, and work for a just society for the long haul; for him,
there wasn't going to *be a long haul. The end of the world as we know
it was already at hand. The Son of Man would soon arrive, bringing
condemnation and judgement against those who prospered in this age,
Thought for a minute Mr. Ehrman was irrefutable, but true to form, he
got too full of himself and wandered off the track.  Change an
eyebrow, muddy a concept, and suddenly Jesus becomes an early
socialist.
Gee Cross, if I remember the New Testament correctly, and after 45 years
as a Southern Baptist I think I do, Jesus did exactly what Ehrman said
he did. Perhaps in your Christian glazed eyes you missed much of the NT.
Cite a source.
TCross
Cite a source???? Try the New Testament. Have you ever read the damn thing??
Is that like, "try the Public Library"?
I don't know Cross, depends on how stupid you are. If it takes the whole
library for you to understand what Jesus said then fine, use it!
Cite a source that states Jesus condemned prosperity.
Gee Cross, Ehrman just said it:-)))).
Stating something demonstrably untrue, Ehrman impeached his own
authority on the subject of Jesus.
Since we are not dealing with
prosperity why don't I go back to the subject to which we were
discussing, the fact that Jesus was an itinerant  apocalyptic preacher
and that he expected the end to come soon.
That was the assertion of your impeached authority, whom you refuse
now to defend.  Why should we give it serious consideration?
TCross
I did defend it Cross, did you ignore all of the verses which I cited? I
guess you did, just too damn stupid to understand.
You did just exactly as I predicted in the post you answered: You
confused "rich" with "prosper," and cited verses about rich people and
none concerning prosperity.
I have met smarter doorknobs.
TCross
I've never met a bigger ass. When you can see the forest instead of the
trees, let me know.

"Instead of"?  So you profess that for you, a forest is just a green
smear without trees.  That would explain much of your thought process.

TCross

Oh my, Terry tried to make a 'funny'. Too bad it flopped, just as all
his other attempts at it have failed.

Terry, despite his own self sense of intelligence, can't escape the fact
that he still believes in supernatural creatures. So much for his sense
of intelligence.