"zenworm" <zensp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Sep 1, 4:14 pm, "^ at (no spam) %>---*=#**" <yom... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:





"zenworm" <zensp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Sep 1, 3:22 pm, elle <mbp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and
reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question
about
Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a
visitor
asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised
his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off
his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to
communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

you are still not "on topic" unless the topic on topic
is the topic of being on topic which is not the topic
topically claimed by the topic in the topic header
which in this case is ZEN which means all topics
are on topic as no topic can topically be excluded
from the ZEN topic which is all topics which is
whichever topic currently topically under topical
discussion as in this topic which is the topic of the
topicality of discussion with regards to how this
topic or any topic relates to ZEN which is a topic
which is both a topic and not a topic as it applies
topically to any topic even the topic of the topicality
of the topic of discussion which is the topic currently
under topical discussion of topicality.
welcome to zen topical
are things clearer now?

Pick a topic that is not ZEN

ZN

```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

my anti-zen meter says that
you need to deposit more
quarters now.

free play

ZN

````````````````````````````````````

you wish

"zenworm" <zensp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:19e90a5a-982a-4359-baaf-d7c3f90f2bd1 at (no spam) f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 1, 3:22 pm, elle <mbp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and
reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question
about
Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a
visitor
asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised
his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off
his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to
communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

you are still not "on topic" unless the topic on topic
is the topic of being on topic which is not the topic
topically claimed by the topic in the topic header
which in this case is ZEN which means all topics
are on topic as no topic can topically be excluded
from the ZEN topic which is all topics which is
whichever topic currently topically under topical
discussion as in this topic which is the topic of the
topicality of discussion with regards to how this
topic or any topic relates to ZEN which is a topic
which is both a topic and not a topic as it applies
topically to any topic even the topic of the topicality
of the topic of discussion which is the topic currently
under topical discussion of topicality.
welcome to zen topical
are things clearer now?

Pick a topic that is not ZEN

ZN

```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

my anti-zen meter says that
you need to deposit more
quarters now.

"elle" <mbplee at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a7920f9d-8a7d-4fb9-b65b-5510bc92c6a8 at (no spam) g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling
them > > > is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz


Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

sir yes sir

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:






elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.


There is nothing so far "on topic."

On Sep 1, 3:22 pm, elle <mbp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:






On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."



you are still not "on topic" unless the topic on topic
is the topic of being on topic which is not the topic
topically claimed by the topic in the topic header
which in this case is ZEN which means all topics
are on topic as no topic can topically be excluded
from the ZEN topic which is all topics which is
whichever topic currently topically under topical
discussion as in this topic which is the topic of the
topicality of discussion with regards to how this
topic or any topic relates to ZEN which is a topic
which is both a topic and not a topic as it applies
topically to any topic even the topic of the topicality
of the topic of discussion which is the topic currently
under topical discussion of topicality.
welcome to zen topical
are things clearer now?

Pick a topic that is not ZEN

elle wrote:

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:


Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.


Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

it's good to see this from an intelligent person.  but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."


It seems to me that alt.zen went substantially inert after a discussion
about working on the "Who/what am I?" koan.

Or maybe when Tang went on hiatus and stopped crossposting; I wasn't
really paying close attention.

Your thoughts?

--
hz

"elle" <mbplee at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:911171ac-2700-4b66-ba8f-e46e4b25ab26 at (no spam) m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and
reviling > > > > > > them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question
about > > > > > Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a
visitor > > > > > asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised
his > > > > > finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off
his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.


There is nothing so far "on topic."


you've cornered the gist of
the entirety of uselessnet.

^ at (no spam) %>---*=#** wrote:


"elle" <mbplee at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a7920f9d-8a7d-4fb9-b65b-5510bc92c6a8 at (no spam) g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling
them > > > is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen.
A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz


Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

sir yes sir


uh....... maybe sir yes maam would be more appropriate

robert

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate..
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person.  but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

"elle" <mbp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:911171ac-2700-4b66-ba8f-e46e4b25ab26 at (no spam) m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling
them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about
Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor
asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate..
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.
There is nothing so far "on topic."

you've cornered the gist of
the entirety of uselessnet..

^ at (no spam) %>---*=#** wrote:

"elle" <mbp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:911171ac-2700-4b66-ba8f-e46e4b25ab26 at (no spam) m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com....
On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and
reviling > > > > > > them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question
about > > > > > Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a
visitor > > > > > asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised
his > > > > > finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off
his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

you've cornered the gist of
the entirety of uselessnet.

the prison of topicality
enfolds me like a lover

robert

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On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 07:05:29 -0400, "^ at (no spam) %>---*=#**" <yom... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

"halfawake" <epstein... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
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^ at (no spam) %>---*=#** wrote:

"elle" <mbp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a7920f9d-8a7d-4fb9-b65b-5510bc92c6a8 at (no spam) g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com....
On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling
them > > > is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen.
A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

sir yes sir

uh.......   maybe sir yes maam would be more appropriate

robert

sir yes maam

Come now.
In the service we don't discriminate.
Even the women are men.

herbzet wrote:


elle wrote:

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:


Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.


Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."


It seems to me that alt.zen went substantially inert after a discussion
about working on the "Who/what am I?" koan.

Or maybe when Tang went on hiatus and stopped crossposting; I wasn't
really paying close attention.

Your thoughts?

I try to follow and inspect them as closely as possible.

"halfawake" <epsteinrob at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:h7nlhm$tpp$6 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org...
^ at (no spam) %>---*=#** wrote:


"elle" <mbplee at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:a7920f9d-8a7d-4fb9-b65b-5510bc92c6a8 at (no spam) g1g2000vbr.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling
them > > > is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen.
A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz


Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

sir yes sir


uh....... maybe sir yes maam would be more appropriate

robert

sir yes maam

zenworm wrote:
On Sep 1, 3:22 pm, elle <mbp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Appledog wrote:

Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

 Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
 boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
 the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

 Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
 finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person.  but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

you are still not "on topic" unless the topic on topic
is the topic of being on topic which is not the topic
topically claimed by the topic in the topic header
which in this case is ZEN which means all topics
are on topic as no topic can topically be excluded
from the ZEN topic which is all topics which is
whichever topic currently topically under topical
discussion as in this topic which is the topic of the
topicality of discussion with regards to how this
topic or any topic relates to ZEN which is a topic
which is both a topic and not a topic as it applies
topically to any topic even the topic of the topicality
of the topic of discussion which is the topic currently
under topical discussion of topicality.
welcome to zen topical
are things clearer now?

Pick a topic that is not ZEN

I would have to disagree with all of the above except the initial
sentence.  No topics are zen; they are all off-topic, even zen itself.

Robert

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