halfawake <epsteinrob at (no spam) yahoo.com> writes:


Appledog wrote:

...

If you want to have total
control over those you address, please start a cult


Isn't charisma a prerequisite for starting a cult?

Lee Rudolph

Appledog <oliver.rich... at (no spam) gmail.com> writes:
On Jul 12, 4:15=A0pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

=A0 Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
=A0 boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
=A0 the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger=
.

=A0 Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
=A0 finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

And half a finger is better than no bread!

Lee Rudolph

If you're going to tell a story, tell the whole story, not half of it.
Zen has a long tradition of people telling stories they really
shouldn't because they don't understand them and can't transmit the
meaning. Please put a stop to this before you hurt yourselves.

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so now your cutting off the finger.

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

so now your cutting off the finger.

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person.  but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them
is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person.  but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate..
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person.  but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
elle wrote:
On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

  Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about Zen. A
  boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor asked
  the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his finger.

  Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
  finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.


Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

it's good to see this from an intelligent person.  but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

"zenworm" <zensp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:19e90a5a-982a-4359-baaf-d7c3f90f2bd1 at (no spam) f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 1, 3:22 pm, elle <mbp... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and
reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about
Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor
asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off
his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies..
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

you are still not "on topic" unless the topic on topic
is the topic of being on topic which is not the topic
topically claimed by the topic in the topic header
which in this case is ZEN which means all topics
are on topic as no topic can topically be excluded
from the ZEN topic which is all topics which is
whichever topic currently topically under topical
discussion as in this topic which is the topic of the
topicality of discussion with regards to how this
topic or any topic relates to ZEN which is a topic
which is both a topic and not a topic as it applies
topically to any topic even the topic of the topicality
of the topic of discussion which is the topic currently
under topical discussion of topicality.
welcome to zen topical
are things clearer now?

Pick a topic that is not ZEN

ZN

```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````

my anti-zen meter says that
you need to deposit more
quarters now.

On Sep 1, 10:01 am, boy <kosmicg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and
reviling them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about
Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor
asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off
his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."

On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





elle wrote:

On Jul 12, 12:50 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:

On Jul 12, 4:15 pm, herbzet <herb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Appledog wrote:
Question: Since provoking people, insulting them and reviling
them is
not studying or practicing buddhism

Gutei raised his finger whenever he was asked a question about
Zen. A
boy attendant began to imitate him in this way. When a visitor
asked
the boy what his master had preached about, the boy raised his
finger.

Gutei heard about the boy's mischief, seized him and cut off his
finger with a knife.

A half truth is a half lie.

Oh, throw away the worser part of it,
And live the purer with the other half.

--
hz

Why do people interested in such topics not know how to communicate.
Most come here to bully and kill the discussions and then it dies.
Change your attitude and talk to one another.

Thanks for your contribution, elle.

Have a nice day.

--
hz

it's good to see this from an intelligent person. but remember
zenworm and that guy he lapdogged? there is that problem with idiots
when they like each other.

There is nothing so far "on topic."