Back years ago when I was a devout catholic I used to use this
reference Hebrews 1.8 to attack Jehovah's Witnesses in debates proving
that Jesus is God . This was seemingly a very good reference ( may be
the best ).
This new understanding  already refutes the Trinity doctrine .

Back years ago when I was a devout catholic I used to use this
reference Hebrews 1.8 to attack Jehovah's Witnesses in debates proving
that Jesus is God . This was seemingly a very good reference ( may be
the best ).
This new understanding already refutes the Trinity doctrine .

religious bullcrap? Wouldn't that be wise?

OBVES at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:d0e57e31-a253-4831-8c62-520bc0f9e426 at (no spam) i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 24, 4:51?pm, "Carl" <sai... at (no spam) nettally.com
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You are not getting it . It is not the Bible scholars who are to
understand the Bible .There scribes when Jesus was living and teaching
and they did not understand Jesus .

If the Bible scholars were qualified they would have come to the same
understanding of the Bible .
They would be in agreement. Catholic scholars interpret the Bible to
prove catholic religion is true. Protestant scholars prove their views
are true and we have so many different religions .


There's nothing to get. The Bible is a book of fiction. You can't prove any
of it. Do you have Jesus on videotape? Any recordings of the apostles?
NOO????? I bet if I claimed something happened 2,000 years ago, you'd want
proof. Yet you have NONE at all.

You also seem to gloat that all these people are going to die and you're
not. Hardly sounds christian to me, but of course that's only your
standards, since Jesus never existed.

Get a job. And a hobby. If you're young enough join the military and go
serve in Iraq. Tell them your beliefs and see how long you last.

Of course every religion interprets the Bible to agree with their beliefs.
The problem is that you 2011 fakes, including Camping, all do the same
thing. At least there is one thing you all have in common. You're all wrong.

On Oct 15, 2:45 pm, cyg... at (no spam) cncnet.com (Sam Taylor) wrote:





On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:05:39 -0400, "Dan" <Dan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

actualy it is "Thy throne of g-d  not G-D, nor G-d
look carefully and read it again, or get a real bible not a paraphrase
of the bible.

OB... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:d0e57e31-a253-4831-8c62-520bc0f9e426 at (no spam) i24g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
On Jan 24, 4:51?pm, "Carl" <sai... at (no spam) nettally.com
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You are not getting it . It is not the Bible scholars who are to
understand the Bible .There scribes when Jesus was living and teaching
and they did not understand Jesus .

If the Bible scholars were qualified they would have come to the same
understanding of the Bible .
They would be in agreement. Catholic scholars interpret the Bible to
prove catholic religion is true. Protestant scholars prove their views
are true and we have so many different religions .

There's nothing to get. The Bible is a book of fiction. You can't prove any
of it. Do you have Jesus on videotape? Any recordings of the apostles?
NOO????? I bet if I claimed something happened 2,000 years ago, you'd want
proof. Yet you have NONE at all.

You also seem to gloat that all these people are going to die and you're
not. Hardly sounds christian to me, but of course that's only your
standards, since Jesus never existed.

Get a job. And a hobby. If you're young enough join the military and go
serve in Iraq. Tell them your beliefs and see how long you last.

Of course every religion interprets the Bible to agree with their beliefs.
The problem is that you 2011 fakes, including Camping, all do the same
thing. At least there is one thing you all have in common. You're all wrong.- Hide quoted text -

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This Holy Spirit argument was going on in the fourth century and split
the Roman empire into two main denominations-- Roman Catholic and
Greek Orthodox.  It's also known as the Great Schism between east and
west.  The Monophysicists believed that the Holy Spirit emanated from
the Father and the Son equally, others believed that the Holy Spirit
emanated somewhat subordinately from the Son.  The Trinity was the
only possible solution to the problem of the first commandment i.e.
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me".  If Jesus was to be
promoted to divinity, he would have to BE God--not share power with
God.  Although, how he can sit at the right hand of God at the same
time as being God is a mystery to me.  Also, how could God know the
time of the end but not Jesus?  But Trinity brawls have already
bogarted many a discussion, and I prefer to address OBVES' comments
about Bible scholars.  As in any other discipline, there is a plethora
of theories among Bible scholars.  Many prefer it that way, because if
everyone had to see it one way, there would be no forum or democratic
process.  The trick is to read as many theological theories as you can
and take your pick.  No two people see completely eye to eye,
including the writers of the canonical books of the Bible, and that is
what makes the study of theology so fascinating.

Ex 3:14 - And God said unto Moses,
I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,
I AM hath sent me unto you.

Joh 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily,
           I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Joh 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him,
            My Lord and my God.

  Jim

Col 2:9 - For in him dwelleth all the fulness
           of the Godhead bodily.

On Oct 31, 2:42 pm, jwsheffi... at (no spam) satx.rr.com wrote:

Ex 3:14 - And God said unto Moses,
I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,
I AM hath sent me unto you.

Joh 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily,
           I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Joh 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him,
            My Lord and my God.

  Jim

Col 2:9 - For in him dwelleth all the fulness
           of the Godhead bodily.

One of the many grievous errors put forward by Christian translators
it that YAH is a name for YAHWEH.  In making this error they use
Exodus 3:14 where the name of YAHWEH is not listed but the explanation
of his name that is given in verse 15 but removed from virtually all
translations of scriptures.

On Oct 31, 2:42 pm, jwsheffi... at (no spam) satx.rr.com wrote:

Ex 3:14 - And God said unto Moses,
I AM THAT I AM: and he said,
Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,
I AM hath sent me unto you.

Joh 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily,
           I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Joh 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him,
            My Lord and my God.

  Jim

Col 2:9 - For in him dwelleth all the fulness
           of the Godhead bodily.

One of the many grievous errors put forward by Christian translators
it that YAH is a name for YAHWEH.  In making this error they use
Exodus 3:14 where the name of YAHWEH is not listed but the explanation
of his name that is given in verse 15 but removed from virtually all
translations of scriptures.

You are just wrong.