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| Leader |
 Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 7:06 pm |
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The two basic requirements for a religion are a Moral
Code and a Moral Agenda.
A Moral Code is a complete list of all Good and Evil
human practices. This code embodies all of God's Laws in a
compact three-dimensional self-verifying matrix whose
symbolism expresses the divine order in human Life and
inorganic nature.
A Moral Agenda is a practical program that recognizes
that the Meaning and Purpose Of Life is the creation of an
Ideal World Civilization, an earthly Heaven that provides
the security, prosperity, and happiness which civilized folk
need for their advancement to the next level of suprahuman
society.
Since Asatru have neither a Moral Code nor a Moral
Agenda, their groups do not qualify as a religion. Rather,
they resemble christian cults since they support every Evil
practice and oppose every Good.
Since all good Asatru would prefer to belong to a Godly
society rather than a devil cult, they should organize a
grassroots Asatru Congress that will establish a Morals
Committee to compose an Asatru Moral Code and Agenda. Later
they can direct their Congress to establish a Language
Academy that will define all abstract human concepts so they
will know the meaning of all the abstract words they use.
Then they can promote the popular adoption of God's
Scientific Solar Calendar so they will always know the true
date. Next they can organize a Scientific Moneyless Economy
so they will be free of economic evils and slavery to
socialist and capitalist devils.
When all these preliminaries are complete, Asatru
architects can be commissioned to design a global league of
Ideal Private Self-governing Cities according to God's Great
Plan for Humanity.
Detailed help is available for all these suggestions.
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| Post Colonial Boy |
| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:56 pm |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 18:06:45 -0700, Leader <leader@divine.org> wrote:
Quote:
The two basic requirements for a religion are a Moral
Code and a Moral Agenda.
A Moral Code is a complete list of all Good and Evil
human practices. This code embodies all of God's Laws in a
compact three-dimensional self-verifying matrix whose
symbolism expresses the divine order in human Life and
inorganic nature.
A Moral Agenda is a practical program that recognizes
that the Meaning and Purpose Of Life is the creation of an
Ideal World Civilization, an earthly Heaven that provides
the security, prosperity, and happiness which civilized folk
need for their advancement to the next level of suprahuman
society.
Since Asatru have neither a Moral Code nor a Moral
Agenda, their groups do not qualify as a religion. Rather,
they resemble christian cults since they support every Evil
practice and oppose every Good.
Since all good Asatru would prefer to belong to a Godly
society rather than a devil cult, they should organize a
grassroots Asatru Congress that will establish a Morals
Committee to compose an Asatru Moral Code and Agenda. Later
they can direct their Congress to establish a Language
Academy that will define all abstract human concepts so they
will know the meaning of all the abstract words they use.
Then they can promote the popular adoption of God's
Scientific Solar Calendar so they will always know the true
date. Next they can organize a Scientific Moneyless Economy
so they will be free of economic evils and slavery to
socialist and capitalist devils.
When all these preliminaries are complete, Asatru
architects can be commissioned to design a global league of
Ideal Private Self-governing Cities according to God's Great
Plan for Humanity.
Detailed help is available for all these suggestions.
<raucous laughter>
<wipes tear from eye>
Piss off.
Have a nice day
Nik
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| Scott Lowther |
| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 10:14 pm |
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Leader wrote:
Quote: The two basic requirements for a religion are a Moral
Code and a Moral Agenda.
ERRRR. Wrong, but thanks for playing.
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| Leader |
| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:20 pm |
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Quote: The two basic requirements for a religion are a
Mora Code and a Moral Agenda.
A Moral Code is a complete list of all Good and Evil
human practices. This code embodies all of God's Laws in a
compact three-dimensional self-verifying matrix whose
symbolism expresses the divine order in human Life and
inorganic nature.
A Moral Agenda is a practical program that recognizes
that the Meaning and Purpose Of Life is the creation of an
Ideal World Civilization, an earthly Heaven that provides
the security, prosperity, and happiness which civilized folk
need for their advancement to the next level of suprahuman
society.
Since Asatru have neither a Moral Code nor a Moral
Agenda, their groups do not qualify as a religion. Rather,
they resemble christian cults since they support every Evil
practice and oppose every Good.
Since all good Asatru would prefer to belong to a Godly
society rather than a devil cult, they should organize a
grassroots Asatru Congress that will establish a Morals
Committee to compose an Asatru Moral Code and Agenda. Later
they can direct their Congress to establish a Language
Academy that will define all abstract human concepts so they
will know the meaning of all the abstract words they use.
Then they can promote the popular adoption of God's
Scientific Solar Calendar so they will always know the true
date. Next they can organize a Scientific Moneyless Economy
so they will be free of economic evils and slavery to
socialist and capitalist devils.
When all these preliminaries are complete, Asatru
architects can be commissioned to design a global league of
Ideal Private Self-governing Cities according to God's Great
Plan for Humanity.
Detailed help is available for all these suggestions.
Quote: ERRRR. Wrong, but thanks for playing.
You seem to know what is Wrong, but not what is Right.
For the benefit of your few readers, try saying something
that is not half-ass.
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| Dyawlak |
| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:30 pm |
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How about this for not half-assed...
Good 'n' Evil are not a valid within Asatru (try a Xitan religion it might
be better for you if you are hung up on the entity called the devil or
something) - as long as you follow the 9 Noble Virtues, which are:
Courage
Truth
Honor
Fidelity
Discipline
Hospitality
Industriousness
Self-reliance
Perseverance
"Leader" <leader@divine.org> wrote in message
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Quote:
The two basic requirements for a religion are a
Mora Code and a Moral Agenda.
A Moral Code is a complete list of all Good and Evil
human practices. This code embodies all of God's Laws in a
compact three-dimensional self-verifying matrix whose
symbolism expresses the divine order in human Life and
inorganic nature.
A Moral Agenda is a practical program that recognizes
that the Meaning and Purpose Of Life is the creation of an
Ideal World Civilization, an earthly Heaven that provides
the security, prosperity, and happiness which civilized folk
need for their advancement to the next level of suprahuman
society.
Since Asatru have neither a Moral Code nor a Moral
Agenda, their groups do not qualify as a religion. Rather,
they resemble christian cults since they support every Evil
practice and oppose every Good.
Since all good Asatru would prefer to belong to a Godly
society rather than a devil cult, they should organize a
grassroots Asatru Congress that will establish a Morals
Committee to compose an Asatru Moral Code and Agenda. Later
they can direct their Congress to establish a Language
Academy that will define all abstract human concepts so they
will know the meaning of all the abstract words they use.
Then they can promote the popular adoption of God's
Scientific Solar Calendar so they will always know the true
date. Next they can organize a Scientific Moneyless Economy
so they will be free of economic evils and slavery to
socialist and capitalist devils.
When all these preliminaries are complete, Asatru
architects can be commissioned to design a global league of
Ideal Private Self-governing Cities according to God's Great
Plan for Humanity.
Detailed help is available for all these suggestions.
ERRRR. Wrong, but thanks for playing.
You seem to know what is Wrong, but not what is Right.
For the benefit of your few readers, try saying something
that is not half-ass.
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| Leader |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:15 am |
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Quote: The two basic requirements for a religion are a
Moral Code and a Moral Agenda.
A Moral Code is a complete list of all Good and Evil
human practices. This code embodies all of God's Laws in a
compact three-dimensional self-verifying matrix whose
symbolism expresses the divine order in human Life and
inorganic nature.
A Moral Agenda is a practical program that recognizes
that the Meaning and Purpose Of Life is the creation of an
Ideal World Civilization, an earthly Heaven that provides
the security, prosperity, and happiness which civilized folk
need for their advancement to the next level of suprahuman
society.
Since Asatru have neither a Moral Code nor a Moral
Agenda, their groups do not qualify as a religion. Rather,
they resemble christian cults since they support every Evil
practice and oppose every Good.
Since all good Asatru would prefer to belong to a Godly
society rather than a devil cult, they should organize a
grassroots Asatru Congress that will establish a Morals
Committee to compose an Asatru Moral Code and Agenda. Later
they can direct their Congress to establish a Language
Academy that will define all abstract human concepts so they
will know the meaning of all the abstract words they use.
Then they can promote the popular adoption of God's
Scientific Solar Calendar so they will always know the true
date. Next they can organize a Scientific Moneyless Economy
so they will be free of economic evils and slavery to
socialist and capitalist devils.
When all these preliminaries are complete, Asatru
architects can be commissioned to design a global league of
Ideal Private Self-governing Cities according to God's Great
Plan for Humanity.
Detailed help is available for all these suggestions.
Quote: Good 'n' Evil are not a valid within Asatru (try a
Xitan religion, it might be better for you if you are hung
up on the entity called the devil or something) - as long as
you follow the 9 Noble Virtues, which are: Courage, Truth,
Honor, Fidelity, Discipline, Hospitality, Industriousness,
Self-reliance, Perseverance
That is a good start, but the Virtues need to be more
specific to convey any useful meaning.
For example, does the virtue of Truth mean that all
Asatru must express Truth In Language? Do all true Asatru.
know the instinctive meaning of all the abstract words they
use daily, such as the key words submitted here? That would
require a professional Asatru Academy Of Language,
I have not heard that the Asatru have such a Language
Academy, or that any Asutru knows even the meaning of the
word "definition".
You, for one, have indicated that you do not know the
meaning of the basic instinctive words of Right and Wrong,
Good and Evil, God and Devil, religious and irreligious,
I imagine that all Asatru demand that their cars and
airplanes be maintained "religiously" by mechanics who have
studied the Laws of their Creators and faithfully apply
them. I am sure that they all Asatru expect their doctors
to study and apply the laws of their Creator in the
treatment of the human body.
Does the virtue of Truth require all Asatru to express
absolute Truth In Dating? That would require all Asatru to
date their letters, articles, publications, histories, and
legal papers with the true dates of the one true Solar
Calendar. I have not heard of any Asatru using anything but
the false dates of phony distorted cult calendars like the
Vatican calendar.
Why is that? Do Asatru lack enough Courage to defy
officially imposed foreign cult calendars, even in their
private affairs?
What calendar do Asatru use?
And what economy do Asatru use to satisfy the virtue of
Self-reliance? Chaotic Market Capitalism, or Socialist
Slavery? using third-party, criminally manipulated
currencies? That would not be self-reliant.
Or does Self-reliance require Asatru to participate
only in private, consumer-based, moneyless, economies?
Do Asatru workers work under industrial orders from
investors and Governments? Or do they labor only under
industrial orders submitted to them by the ultimate
self-reliant consumers in their community?
Do Asatru sit around and wait for investors and
governments to create jobs for them? Or are they
sufficiently Industrious that they create their own jobs
through their own long-term consumer orders placed with
industry?.
Do Asatru carry slave-labor-script in wallets to trade
for investor-ordered products in company stores? Or does
their Honor and Self-Reliance require that they order
themselves everything they want from industry?
Leader
Midspring, Taurus 23 (May 12) 2005
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| Fwap |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:11 pm |
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On Thu, 12 May 2005 18:06:45 -0700, Leader <leader@divine.org> wrote:
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The two basic requirements for a religion are a Moral
Code and a Moral Agenda.
That one's new to me. Care to provide a reference to page and
paragraph of the Big Book of Religious Requirements?
"Religion" comes from the "Religio Romana" - "the roman bond" or "the
roman rule" the term used by the romans to refer to the common ritual
practices by which they identified themselves as a people.
Quote: A Moral Code is a complete list of all Good and Evil
human practices. This code embodies all of God's Laws in a
compact three-dimensional self-verifying matrix whose
symbolism expresses the divine order in human Life and
inorganic nature.
That's what cultural scholars call a prescriptive ethic, a way of
defining good unique to the religions of the book. Pagan religions
usually go by some form of virtue or median ethic. Look it up. I'm
sure you can get someone to help you with the more complicated
words...
Quote: A Moral Agenda is a practical program that recognizes
that the Meaning and Purpose Of Life is the creation of an
Ideal World Civilization, an earthly Heaven that provides
the security, prosperity, and happiness which civilized folk
need for their advancement to the next level of suprahuman
society.
....like "are" and "puffed-up-gibbering-haddoc's-arse".
Quote: Since Asatru have neither a Moral Code nor a Moral
Agenda, their groups do not qualify as a religion. Rather,
they resemble christian cults since they support every Evil
practice and oppose every Good.
I'd argue your reasoning here, if I could find any. Your
all-encompassing ignorance, arrogance and plain stupidity is
depressing me.
Quote: Since all good Asatru would prefer to belong to a Godly
society rather than a devil cult, they should organize a
grassroots Asatru Congress
*Organize* a *grassroots*... no, I will not begin to explain to you
the meaning of "oxymoron". No, it does not -directly- involve the
common english term "moron", but thank you for trying.
Quote: that will establish a Morals
Committee to compose an Asatru Moral Code and Agenda. Later
they can direct their Congress to establish a Language
Academy that will define all abstract human concepts so they
will know the meaning of all the abstract words they use.
I don't usually see very many abstract words in use among the anglo
asatru. Some try to handle norse words. A few even succeed. This is
entertaining and inspiring, but not very abstract?
Quote: Then they can promote the popular adoption of God's
Scientific Solar Calendar
Um. We already got three. The heathen moon calendar, the prime staff
and the roman one. Why do we need more? Or did you just drop your
medication behind the couch in the intensive psych ward today?
Quote: so they will always know the true
date. Next they can organize a Scientific Moneyless Economy
so they will be free of economic evils and slavery to
socialist and capitalist devils.
When all these preliminaries are complete, Asatru
architects can be commissioned to design a global league of
Ideal Private Self-governing Cities according to God's Great
Plan for Humanity.
Detailed help is available for all these suggestions.
Ah. I think you need to go to the nearest hospital, right now, and ask
for some help. You will know you are safe, healthy and whole again
when you wake up at night, years from now, screaming and trying to
bite your typing fingers off at the thought of having made such an
absolute and complete pillock of yourself as you just did. Good luck.
....
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| D. North |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 1:46 pm |
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"Leader" <leader@divine.org> wrote in message
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The two basic requirements for a religion are a
Mora Code and a Moral Agenda.
A Moral Code is a complete list of all Good and Evil
human practices. This code embodies all of God's Laws in a
You're presupposing a monotheistic viewpoint here. Since Asatru is
polytheistic you're showing only that you lack understanding about who
you're talking to.
As trolls go, you're really not good at all.
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| Guest |
| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:07 pm |
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Quote: Asatru have no language
academy, no moral code or moral agenda or religion; no ideal
cities; no scientific, trouble-free, moneyless,
consumer-based economies;
Ah, I get it now.
You're nuts.
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| Guest |
| Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:02 am |
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Leader wrote:
Quote: Children, try posting something meaningful and useful,
as though your life depended on it.
This is simply a troll, who posted similar things about the Mormons,
Prebyterians, Catholics, etc.
And the "nut" designation is appropriate. Consider this bizarre
jibberish he posted on a "white power" group:
"Devil cults that mess with God's four pure human genres
and homelands also mess with God's twelve equal solar months
in their cult calendars.."
And to top it off, he thinks himself qualified to lecture on "morals".
Eric
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