How callously dismissive the authorities are being toward what many
here would consider tragically common. Two men snap and go on a
shooting spree (which may posters here have warned for years would
continue). Rodriguez was divorced, last employed making submarine
sandwiches and claiming bankruptcy. Hasan was faced with deployment to
Afghanistan. The “newsreels” also showed the plight of

“When one reporter asked Rodriguez why he did it, he said, "Because
they left me to rot," as reported by the AP… Renato Gonzalez, a
manager at the firm said, "I know that we was not very happy with the
layoff. He took a little worse than most people."..”http://www.examiner..com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Orlando-...

“..He was by turns caring and contentious, a man quick to say "I am
blessed" in casual greeting yet one who seemed to stew in discontent
that he could not always keep to himself…”http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0e...

Yet with these and more horrific stories making the news, seemingly
bereft of any notion that perpetrators are themselves victims.
President Obama went on television, to give voice to a nation in greef
and with regard to the Hasan case and over concerns of Arabs in the
military stated, “"We don't know all of the answers yet. I would
caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all of the facts"http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736187.htm

As I was rummaging through the vast amount of news articles for
another heart-wrenching story about a man living out of his van which
was televised on CNN Headline news, my attention was captured by yet
another holocaust story. This time it’s a report indicating a higher
than normal cancer risk by survivors.

“..Crumbs and decomposed food sickened Betty Potash Gold and her
family members, causing diarrhea and bloody vomiting, as they hid from
the Nazis.
   Although Gold lived through extreme hunger, mental duress and near-
death experiences during the Holocaust, she and other survivors face
another peril decades after the war.
   "Jewish survivors of World War II who were potentially exposed to
the Holocaust were at a higher risk for cancer occurrence later on in
life than those not exposed," concluded a study published in the
November issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
  Intense calorie deprivation, such as what Gold experienced, has long-
term effects on survivors, said Dr. Micha Barchana, one of the study
authors….”http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/06/holocaust.survivor.cancer/index....

Given the current state of the economy and the rampant volume of
people’s suffering while the authorities seem reluctant to examine or
acknowledge what average people are gong through, we still have time
and resources to reminisce about the suffering of one group of people
during the second world war. In the case above, the JNCI may have a
diversity issue to consider.

Men have been complaining in near silence for over a decade about
their plight in Family Court and dealing with economic hardships
brought on by continuous boom and bust cycles. From their perspective
these tragic stories can’t be surprising. In fact, this author is
surprised there are so few tragedies given the extent of the burden
and placed us coupled with the lack of understanding or willingness to
address the problems. It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.
=Still feeling sorry for yourself as usual, eh? Get a backbone you

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:47:54 -0800 (PST), Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com

Still feeling sorry for yourself as usual, eh? Get a backbone you
little weasel, go find a job and support your kids and quit this
perpetual public whine.

you're obviously a useless loser...
would you please change your nym to something easier to killfile

'emptyidiot' would be a good example

--
web site atwww.abelard.org- news comment service, logic, economics
 energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
  all that is necessary for       []     walk quietly and carry
  the triumph of evil is that     []           a big stick.
  good people do nothing     []    trust actions not words
                    only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:03:26 -0800 (PST), Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com
wrote:

On Nov 7, 11:53 am, abelard <abela... at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:47:54 -0800 (PST), Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com

Still feeling sorry for yourself as usual, eh? Get a backbone you
little weasel, go find a job and support your kids and quit this
perpetual public whine.

you're obviously a useless loser...
would you please change your nym to something easier to killfile

'emptyidiot' would be a good example
For Khrist sake, shut your stupid pie hole...you are still an idiot.

you forgot to change your nym
and you can't handle your posting software

--
web site atwww.abelard.org- news comment service, logic, economics
 energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
  all that is necessary for       []     walk quietly and carry
  the triumph of evil is that     []           a big stick.
  good people do nothing     []    trust actions not words
                    only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
="Handle", WTF are you yattering about now?

How callously dismissive the authorities are being toward what many
here would consider tragically common. Two men snap and go on a
shooting spree (which may posters here have warned for years would
continue). Rodriguez was divorced, last employed making submarine
sandwiches and claiming bankruptcy. Hasan was faced with deployment to
Afghanistan. The “newsreels” also showed the plight of

“When one reporter asked Rodriguez why he did it, he said, "Because
they left me to rot,"

as reported by the AP… Renato Gonzalez, a
manager at the firm said, "I know that we was not very happy with the
layoff. He took a little worse than most people."..”http://www.examiner..com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Orlando-...

“..He was by turns caring and contentious, a man quick to say "I am
blessed" in casual greeting yet one who seemed to stew in discontent
that he could not always keep to himself…”http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0e...

Yet with these and more horrific stories making the news, seemingly
bereft of any notion that perpetrators are themselves victims.
President Obama went on television, to give voice to a nation in greef
and with regard to the Hasan case and over concerns of Arabs in the
military stated, “"We don't know all of the answers yet. I would
caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all of the facts"http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736187.htm

As I was rummaging through the vast amount of news articles for
another heart-wrenching story about a man living out of his van which
was televised on CNN Headline news, my attention was captured by yet
another holocaust story. This time it’s a report indicating a higher
than normal cancer risk by survivors.

“..Crumbs and decomposed food sickened Betty Potash Gold and her
family members, causing diarrhea and bloody vomiting, as they hid from
the Nazis.
   Although Gold lived through extreme hunger, mental duress and near-
death experiences during the Holocaust, she and other survivors face
another peril decades after the war.
   "Jewish survivors of World War II who were potentially exposed to
the Holocaust were at a higher risk for cancer occurrence later on in
life than those not exposed," concluded a study published in the
November issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
  Intense calorie deprivation, such as what Gold experienced, has long-
term effects on survivors, said Dr. Micha Barchana, one of the study
authors….”http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/06/holocaust.survivor.cancer/index....

Given the current state of the economy and the rampant volume of
people’s suffering while the authorities seem reluctant to examine or
acknowledge what average people are gong through, we still have time
and resources to reminisce about the suffering of one group of people
during the second world war. In the case above, the JNCI may have a
diversity issue to consider.

Men have been complaining in near silence for over a decade about
their plight in Family Court and dealing with economic hardships
brought on by continuous boom and bust cycles. From their perspective
these tragic stories can’t be surprising. In fact, this author is
surprised there are so few tragedies given the extent of the burden
and placed us coupled with the lack of understanding or willingness to
address the problems. It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.

On Nov 7, 11:40 am, Moderator <meldo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



How callously dismissive the authorities are being toward what many
here would consider tragically common. Two men snap and go on a
shooting spree (which may posters here have warned for years would
continue). Rodriguez was divorced, last employed making submarine
sandwiches and claiming bankruptcy. Hasan was faced with deployment to
Afghanistan. The “newsreels” also showed the plight of

“When one reporter asked Rodriguez why he did it, he said, "Because
they left me to rot," as reported by the AP… Renato Gonzalez, a
manager at the firm said, "I know that we was not very happy with the
layoff. He took a little worse than most people."..”http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Orlando-...

“..He was by turns caring and contentious, a man quick to say "I am
blessed" in casual greeting yet one who seemed to stew in discontent
that he could not always keep to himself…”http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0e...

Yet with these and more horrific stories making the news, seemingly
bereft of any notion that perpetrators are themselves victims.
President Obama went on television, to give voice to a nation in greef
and with regard to the Hasan case and over concerns of Arabs in the
military stated, “"We don't know all of the answers yet. I would
caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all of the facts"http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736187.htm

As I was rummaging through the vast amount of news articles for
another heart-wrenching story about a man living out of his van which
was televised on CNN Headline news, my attention was captured by yet
another holocaust story. This time it’s a report indicating a higher
than normal cancer risk by survivors.

“..Crumbs and decomposed food sickened Betty Potash Gold and her
family members, causing diarrhea and bloody vomiting, as they hid from
the Nazis.
   Although Gold lived through extreme hunger, mental duress and near-
death experiences during the Holocaust, she and other survivors face
another peril decades after the war.
   "Jewish survivors of World War II who were potentially exposed to
the Holocaust were at a higher risk for cancer occurrence later on in
life than those not exposed," concluded a study published in the
November issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
  Intense calorie deprivation, such as what Gold experienced, has long-
term effects on survivors, said Dr. Micha Barchana, one of the study
authors….”http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/06/holocaust.survivor.cancer/index....

Given the current state of the economy and the rampant volume of
people’s suffering while the authorities seem reluctant to examine or
acknowledge what average people are gong through, we still have time
and resources to reminisce about the suffering of one group of people
during the second world war. In the case above, the JNCI may have a
diversity issue to consider.

Men have been complaining in near silence for over a decade about
their plight in Family Court and dealing with economic hardships
brought on by continuous boom and bust cycles. From their perspective
these tragic stories can’t be surprising. In fact, this author is
surprised there are so few tragedies given the extent of the burden
and placed us coupled with the lack of understanding or willingness to
address the problems. It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.

=> Still feeling sorry for yourself as usual, eh? Get a backbone you
little weasel, go find a job and support your kids and quit this
perpetual public whine.
==- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Nov 7, 10:40 am, Moderator <meldo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

How callously dismissive the authorities are being toward what many
here would consider tragically common. Two men snap and go on a
shooting spree (which may posters here have warned for years would
continue). Rodriguez was divorced, last employed making submarine
sandwiches and claiming bankruptcy. Hasan was faced with deployment to
Afghanistan. The “newsreels” also showed the plight of

“When one reporter asked Rodriguez why he did it, he said, "Because
they left me to rot,"

The Carpenter movie "They Live" captured the effects of the ruling
"Lizards", ie feminists in this respect.  Our sexual natures, as
demonstrated here by "Roy", makes it difficult to identify the problem
and therefore confront it.  We need special glasses like in "They
Live" to see it.  When we get them the Roy's of the world need to put
them on.

Good article Moderator.

Tom



as reported by the AP… Renato Gonzalez, a
manager at the firm said, "I know that we was not very happy with the
layoff. He took a little worse than most people."..”http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Orlando-...

“..He was by turns caring and contentious, a man quick to say "I am
blessed" in casual greeting yet one who seemed to stew in discontent
that he could not always keep to himself…”http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0e...

Yet with these and more horrific stories making the news, seemingly
bereft of any notion that perpetrators are themselves victims.
President Obama went on television, to give voice to a nation in greef
and with regard to the Hasan case and over concerns of Arabs in the
military stated, “"We don't know all of the answers yet. I would
caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all of the facts"http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736187.htm

As I was rummaging through the vast amount of news articles for
another heart-wrenching story about a man living out of his van which
was televised on CNN Headline news, my attention was captured by yet
another holocaust story. This time it’s a report indicating a higher
than normal cancer risk by survivors.

“..Crumbs and decomposed food sickened Betty Potash Gold and her
family members, causing diarrhea and bloody vomiting, as they hid from
the Nazis.
   Although Gold lived through extreme hunger, mental duress and near-
death experiences during the Holocaust, she and other survivors face
another peril decades after the war.
   "Jewish survivors of World War II who were potentially exposed to
the Holocaust were at a higher risk for cancer occurrence later on in
life than those not exposed," concluded a study published in the
November issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
  Intense calorie deprivation, such as what Gold experienced, has long-
term effects on survivors, said Dr. Micha Barchana, one of the study
authors….”http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/06/holocaust.survivor.cancer/index....

Given the current state of the economy and the rampant volume of
people’s suffering while the authorities seem reluctant to examine or
acknowledge what average people are gong through, we still have time
and resources to reminisce about the suffering of one group of people
during the second world war. In the case above, the JNCI may have a
diversity issue to consider.

Men have been complaining in near silence for over a decade about
their plight in Family Court and dealing with economic hardships
brought on by continuous boom and bust cycles. From their perspective
these tragic stories can’t be surprising. In fact, this author is
surprised there are so few tragedies given the extent of the burden
and placed us coupled with the lack of understanding or willingness to
address the problems. It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
=Yes, it was a very good article. "Moderator" likes to "play to the

It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.

On Nov 7, 1:47 pm, Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:





On Nov 7, 11:40 am, Moderator <meldo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

How callously dismissive the authorities are being toward what many
here would consider tragically common. Two men snap and go on a
shooting spree (which may posters here have warned for years would
continue). Rodriguez was divorced, last employed making submarine
sandwiches and claiming bankruptcy. Hasan was faced with deployment to
Afghanistan. The “newsreels” also showed the plight of

“When one reporter asked Rodriguez why he did it, he said, "Because
they left me to rot," as reported by the AP… Renato Gonzalez, a
manager at the firm said, "I know that we was not very happy with the
layoff. He took a little worse than most people."..”http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Orlando-...

“..He was by turns caring and contentious, a man quick to say "I am
blessed" in casual greeting yet one who seemed to stew in discontent
that he could not always keep to himself…”http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0e...

Yet with these and more horrific stories making the news, seemingly
bereft of any notion that perpetrators are themselves victims.
President Obama went on television, to give voice to a nation in greef
and with regard to the Hasan case and over concerns of Arabs in the
military stated, “"We don't know all of the answers yet. I would
caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all of the facts"http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736187.htm

As I was rummaging through the vast amount of news articles for
another heart-wrenching story about a man living out of his van which
was televised on CNN Headline news, my attention was captured by yet
another holocaust story. This time it’s a report indicating a higher
than normal cancer risk by survivors.

“..Crumbs and decomposed food sickened Betty Potash Gold and her
family members, causing diarrhea and bloody vomiting, as they hid from
the Nazis.
   Although Gold lived through extreme hunger, mental duress and near-
death experiences during the Holocaust, she and other survivors face
another peril decades after the war.
   "Jewish survivors of World War II who were potentially exposed to
the Holocaust were at a higher risk for cancer occurrence later on in
life than those not exposed," concluded a study published in the
November issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
  Intense calorie deprivation, such as what Gold experienced, has long-
term effects on survivors, said Dr. Micha Barchana, one of the study
authors….”http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/06/holocaust.survivor..cancer/index....

Given the current state of the economy and the rampant volume of
people’s suffering while the authorities seem reluctant to examine or
acknowledge what average people are gong through, we still have time
and resources to reminisce about the suffering of one group of people
during the second world war. In the case above, the JNCI may have a
diversity issue to consider.

Men have been complaining in near silence for over a decade about
their plight in Family Court and dealing with economic hardships
brought on by continuous boom and bust cycles. From their perspective
these tragic stories can’t be surprising. In fact, this author is
surprised there are so few tragedies given the extent of the burden
and placed us coupled with the lack of understanding or willingness to
address the problems. It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.

=> > Still feeling sorry for yourself as usual, eh? Get a backbone you
little weasel, go find a job and support your kids and quit this
perpetual public whine.
==- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Let me see if I’ve got this straight. You personally relate and
empathize with the post but rather than support the view of its
content, you choose antagonism as a more effective means of addressing
the problems. Ok, I’ve got it. Thanks.

Still feeling sorry for yourself as usual, eh? Get a backbone you
little weasel, go find a job and support your kids and quit this
perpetual public whine.

On Nov 7, 11:53 am, abelard <abela... at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:47:54 -0800 (PST), Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com

Still feeling sorry for yourself as usual, eh? Get a backbone you
little weasel, go find a job and support your kids and quit this
perpetual public whine.

you're obviously a useless loser...
would you please change your nym to something easier to killfile

'emptyidiot' would be a good example

For Khrist sake, shut your stupid pie hole...you are still an idiot.

On Nov 7, 12:07 pm, abelard <abela... at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:03:26 -0800 (PST), Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com
wrote:

On Nov 7, 11:53 am, abelard <abela... at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:47:54 -0800 (PST), Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com

Still feeling sorry for yourself as usual, eh? Get a backbone you
little weasel, go find a job and support your kids and quit this
perpetual public whine.

you're obviously a useless loser...
would you please change your nym to something easier to killfile

'emptyidiot' would be a good example
For Khrist sake, shut your stupid pie hole...you are still an idiot.

you forgot to change your nym
and you can't handle your posting software

"Handle", WTF are you yattering about now?

On Nov 7, 12:37 pm, Masculist <mascul... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



On Nov 7, 10:40 am, Moderator <meldo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

How callously dismissive the authorities are being toward what many
here would consider tragically common. Two men snap and go on a
shooting spree (which may posters here have warned for years would
continue). Rodriguez was divorced, last employed making submarine
sandwiches and claiming bankruptcy. Hasan was faced with deployment to
Afghanistan. The “newsreels” also showed the plight of

“When one reporter asked Rodriguez why he did it, he said, "Because
they left me to rot,"

The Carpenter movie "They Live" captured the effects of the ruling
"Lizards", ie feminists in this respect.  Our sexual natures, as
demonstrated here by "Roy", makes it difficult to identify the problem
and therefore confront it.  We need special glasses like in "They
Live" to see it.  When we get them the Roy's of the world need to put
them on.

Good article Moderator.

Tom

as reported by the AP… Renato Gonzalez, a
manager at the firm said, "I know that we was not very happy with the
layoff. He took a little worse than most people."..”http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Orlando-...

“..He was by turns caring and contentious, a man quick to say "I am
blessed" in casual greeting yet one who seemed to stew in discontent
that he could not always keep to himself…”http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0e...

Yet with these and more horrific stories making the news, seemingly
bereft of any notion that perpetrators are themselves victims.
President Obama went on television, to give voice to a nation in greef
and with regard to the Hasan case and over concerns of Arabs in the
military stated, “"We don't know all of the answers yet. I would
caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all of the facts"http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736187.htm

As I was rummaging through the vast amount of news articles for
another heart-wrenching story about a man living out of his van which
was televised on CNN Headline news, my attention was captured by yet
another holocaust story. This time it’s a report indicating a higher
than normal cancer risk by survivors.

“..Crumbs and decomposed food sickened Betty Potash Gold and her
family members, causing diarrhea and bloody vomiting, as they hid from
the Nazis.
   Although Gold lived through extreme hunger, mental duress and near-
death experiences during the Holocaust, she and other survivors face
another peril decades after the war.
   "Jewish survivors of World War II who were potentially exposed to
the Holocaust were at a higher risk for cancer occurrence later on in
life than those not exposed," concluded a study published in the
November issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
  Intense calorie deprivation, such as what Gold experienced, has long-
term effects on survivors, said Dr. Micha Barchana, one of the study
authors….”http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/06/holocaust.survivor..cancer/index....

Given the current state of the economy and the rampant volume of
people’s suffering while the authorities seem reluctant to examine or
acknowledge what average people are gong through, we still have time
and resources to reminisce about the suffering of one group of people
during the second world war. In the case above, the JNCI may have a
diversity issue to consider.

Men have been complaining in near silence for over a decade about
their plight in Family Court and dealing with economic hardships
brought on by continuous boom and bust cycles. From their perspective
these tragic stories can’t be surprising. In fact, this author is
surprised there are so few tragedies given the extent of the burden
and placed us coupled with the lack of understanding or willingness to
address the problems. It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

=> Yes, it was a very good article. "Moderator" likes to "play to the
audience" with his moans and groans about how society has fucked him
around. Instead of sitting at his keyboard and posting the same drool
for months on end, why doesn't he seek some help from competent social
agencies?
Obviously WE can't help him as he loves to wallow in his mire of self-
hate and failure.

Whenever anyone gives advice, he promptly calls them idiots and
dismisses them...as he really isn't interested in a solution for his
problems and just wants to strike out at his ex-wife and society in
general.

On Nov 7, 3:01 pm, Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:





On Nov 7, 12:37 pm, Masculist <mascul... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:40 am, Moderator <meldo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

How callously dismissive the authorities are being toward what many
here would consider tragically common. Two men snap and go on a
shooting spree (which may posters here have warned for years would
continue). Rodriguez was divorced, last employed making submarine
sandwiches and claiming bankruptcy. Hasan was faced with deployment to
Afghanistan. The “newsreels” also showed the plight of

“When one reporter asked Rodriguez why he did it, he said, "Because
they left me to rot,"

The Carpenter movie "They Live" captured the effects of the ruling
"Lizards", ie feminists in this respect.  Our sexual natures, as
demonstrated here by "Roy", makes it difficult to identify the problem
and therefore confront it.  We need special glasses like in "They
Live" to see it.  When we get them the Roy's of the world need to put
them on.

Good article Moderator.

Tom

as reported by the AP… Renato Gonzalez, a
manager at the firm said, "I know that we was not very happy with the
layoff. He took a little worse than most people."..”http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Orlando-...

“..He was by turns caring and contentious, a man quick to say "I am
blessed" in casual greeting yet one who seemed to stew in discontent
that he could not always keep to himself…”http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0e...

Yet with these and more horrific stories making the news, seemingly
bereft of any notion that perpetrators are themselves victims.
President Obama went on television, to give voice to a nation in greef
and with regard to the Hasan case and over concerns of Arabs in the
military stated, “"We don't know all of the answers yet. I would
caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all of the facts"http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736187.htm

As I was rummaging through the vast amount of news articles for
another heart-wrenching story about a man living out of his van which
was televised on CNN Headline news, my attention was captured by yet
another holocaust story. This time it’s a report indicating a higher
than normal cancer risk by survivors.

“..Crumbs and decomposed food sickened Betty Potash Gold and her
family members, causing diarrhea and bloody vomiting, as they hid from
the Nazis.
   Although Gold lived through extreme hunger, mental duress and near-
death experiences during the Holocaust, she and other survivors face
another peril decades after the war.
   "Jewish survivors of World War II who were potentially exposed to
the Holocaust were at a higher risk for cancer occurrence later on in
life than those not exposed," concluded a study published in the
November issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
  Intense calorie deprivation, such as what Gold experienced, has long-
term effects on survivors, said Dr. Micha Barchana, one of the study
authors….”http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/06/holocaust.survivor.cancer/index....

Given the current state of the economy and the rampant volume of
people’s suffering while the authorities seem reluctant to examine or
acknowledge what average people are gong through, we still have time
and resources to reminisce about the suffering of one group of people
during the second world war. In the case above, the JNCI may have a
diversity issue to consider.

Men have been complaining in near silence for over a decade about
their plight in Family Court and dealing with economic hardships
brought on by continuous boom and bust cycles. From their perspective
these tragic stories can’t be surprising. In fact, this author is
surprised there are so few tragedies given the extent of the burden
and placed us coupled with the lack of understanding or willingness to
address the problems. It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.- Hide quoted text -

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=> > Yes, it was a very good article. "Moderator" likes to "play to the
audience" with his moans and groans about how society has fucked him
around. Instead of sitting at his keyboard and posting the same drool
for months on end, why doesn't he seek some help from competent social
agencies?
Obviously WE can't help him as he loves to wallow in his mire of self-
hate and failure.

Whenever anyone gives advice, he promptly calls them idiots and
dismisses them...as he really isn't interested in a solution for his
problems and just wants to strike out at his ex-wife and society in
general.

I'll make sure to go through the decade of posts and carefully look
for any advice that I have dismissed. While I'm doing that we can all
be assured that any problems individuals are experiencing are due
solely to their own shortcomings and nothing external or systemic.- Hide quoted text -

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On Nov 7, 6:56 pm, Moderator <meldo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Nov 7, 3:01 pm, Roy <wila... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 7, 12:37 pm, Masculist <mascul... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 7, 10:40 am, Moderator <meldo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

How callously dismissive the authorities are being toward what many
here would consider tragically common. Two men snap and go on a
shooting spree (which may posters here have warned for years would
continue). Rodriguez was divorced, last employed making submarine
sandwiches and claiming bankruptcy. Hasan was faced with deployment to
Afghanistan. The “newsreels” also showed the plight of

“When one reporter asked Rodriguez why he did it, he said, "Because
they left me to rot,"

The Carpenter movie "They Live" captured the effects of the ruling
"Lizards", ie feminists in this respect.  Our sexual natures, as
demonstrated here by "Roy", makes it difficult to identify the problem
and therefore confront it.  We need special glasses like in "They
Live" to see it.  When we get them the Roy's of the world need to put
them on.

Good article Moderator.

Tom

as reported by the AP… Renato Gonzalez, a
manager at the firm said, "I know that we was not very happy with the
layoff. He took a little worse than most people."..”http://www.examiner.com/x-19663-LA-Legal-Examiner~y2009m11d6-Orlando-...

“..He was by turns caring and contentious, a man quick to say "I am
blessed" in casual greeting yet one who seemed to stew in discontent
that he could not always keep to himself…”http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0e...

Yet with these and more horrific stories making the news, seemingly
bereft of any notion that perpetrators are themselves victims.
President Obama went on television, to give voice to a nation in greef
and with regard to the Hasan case and over concerns of Arabs in the
military stated, “"We don't know all of the answers yet. I would
caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all of the facts"http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/07/2736187.htm

As I was rummaging through the vast amount of news articles for
another heart-wrenching story about a man living out of his van which
was televised on CNN Headline news, my attention was captured by yet
another holocaust story. This time it’s a report indicating a higher
than normal cancer risk by survivors.

“..Crumbs and decomposed food sickened Betty Potash Gold and her
family members, causing diarrhea and bloody vomiting, as they hid from
the Nazis.
   Although Gold lived through extreme hunger, mental duress and near-
death experiences during the Holocaust, she and other survivors face
another peril decades after the war.
   "Jewish survivors of World War II who were potentially exposed to
the Holocaust were at a higher risk for cancer occurrence later on in
life than those not exposed," concluded a study published in the
November issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.
  Intense calorie deprivation, such as what Gold experienced, has long-
term effects on survivors, said Dr. Micha Barchana, one of the study
authors….”http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/11/06/holocaust.survivor.cancer/index....

Given the current state of the economy and the rampant volume of
people’s suffering while the authorities seem reluctant to examine or
acknowledge what average people are gong through, we still have time
and resources to reminisce about the suffering of one group of people
during the second world war. In the case above, the JNCI may have a
diversity issue to consider.

Men have been complaining in near silence for over a decade about
their plight in Family Court and dealing with economic hardships
brought on by continuous boom and bust cycles. From their perspective
these tragic stories can’t be surprising. In fact, this author is
surprised there are so few tragedies given the extent of the burden
and placed us coupled with the lack of understanding or willingness to
address the problems. It is certainly enough to make men question the
nature of their current reality and wonder if they’ve been in the
words of Rodriguez, “left to rot”.

Where seemingly ever other group in this society have experienced
significant change in the past century, it appears men are still
cannon fodder.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

=> > > Yes, it was a very good article. "Moderator" likes to "play to the
audience" with his moans and groans about how society has fucked him
around. Instead of sitting at his keyboard and posting the same drool
for months on end, why doesn't he seek some help from competent social
agencies?
Obviously WE can't help him as he loves to wallow in his mire of self-
hate and failure.

Whenever anyone gives advice, he promptly calls them idiots and
dismisses them...as he really isn't interested in a solution for his
problems and just wants to strike out at his ex-wife and society in
general.

I'll make sure to go through the decade of posts and carefully look
for any advice that I have dismissed. While I'm doing that we can all
be assured that any problems individuals are experiencing are due
solely to their own shortcomings and nothing external or systemic.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

With all of the time wasted on this NG, you could have solved your
problems by now if you had any gumption.