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| Vngelis... |
 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:37 pm |
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Nearly every thread, SRD changes the titles on a daily basis.
Technology gives one the right to do whatever one wants.
But this is classic fillibustering tactics. If one puts a title then
the poster changes it ten times
the purpose aint the topic but to confuse, derail the 'debate'.
Bereft of any ideological arguments bar defending Californian
capitalism, SRD changes topics.
So from now own I will only place articles RAB style and take have no
debate with SRD, as its pointless... A poster who changes topics and
we have to spend time looking for them is a clown.
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| srd... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:37 am |
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On Nov 5, 11:37 pm, Vngelis <meberr... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Nearly every thread, SRD changes the titles on a daily basis.
Technology gives one the right to do whatever one wants.
But this is classic fillibustering tactics. If one puts a title then
the poster changes it ten times
the purpose aint the topic but to confuse, derail the 'debate'.
Peasant logic. Even so simple a matter is beyond vngelis's ability to
argue rationally. How does changing a topic title "derail a debate"?
Because vngelis decrees it does? Absurd.
What derails a debate is distracting whining as now issues forth from
this braying borderline nazi. Tell it to your ill-begetting mother,
who might take pity. You'll get none from me.
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| srd... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:11 am |
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On Nov 5, 11:37 pm, Vngelis <meberr... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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Bereft of any ideological arguments bar defending Californian
capitalism, SRD changes topics.
To a peasant like vngelis, changing titles is changing "topics." All
classes may reify; only the peasantry does it so stupidly.
Quote: So from now own I will only place articles RAB style and take have no
debate with SRD, as its pointless... A poster who changes topics and
we have to spend time looking for them is a clown.
vngelis now gives us an argument for his petty position: If I change
topic titles, it takes longer for vngelis to find his topics! Maybe
so; but if I don't change some topic titles, most readers will find
discovering meaning in vngelis-initiated-topics *much* harder. HOW
hard is it for vngelis to locate topics on apst, even if he lacks an
adequate newsreader to ease his burden? It's a far cry from his lying
histrionics and whining about "derailing a debate" to add a few
seconds to vngelis's search time.
So what's the *actual* reason? Property! The acquisitiveness of the
kulak mentality knows no bounds. vngelis's topic titles are his
sacred property. He would rather abstain from debate than have this
"property" ripped from his kulak fingers.
vngelis also *needs* an excuse to opt out, proving whose "cover" has
really been blown. Which I say is fine indeed because, whatever the
leisurely tactics of the moment, the *objective* is NO PLATFORM FOR
KKKulak VNGELIS. I wish *every* kulak were such a wimp.
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| irongron... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:13 am |
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His threads have many facets, like his personality and ideology
"Vngelis" <meberry68 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5d016390-5a9e-408c-ae6a-7504c40e5de3 at (no spam) g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
Quote: Nearly every thread, SRD changes the titles on a daily basis.
Technology gives one the right to do whatever one wants.
But this is classic fillibustering tactics. If one puts a title then
the poster changes it ten times
the purpose aint the topic but to confuse, derail the 'debate'.
Bereft of any ideological arguments bar defending Californian
capitalism, SRD changes topics.
So from now own I will only place articles RAB style and take have no
debate with SRD, as its pointless... A poster who changes topics and
we have to spend time looking for them is a clown.
vngelis |
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| srd... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:52 am |
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On Nov 5, 11:37 pm, Vngelis <meberr... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
The complaint is weird enough to intrigue, and stupid enough to compel
more lampooning.
Quote: Nearly every thread, SRD changes the titles on a daily basis.
Technology gives one the right to do whatever one wants.
Here you find again vngelis's peasant hatred of all modernity,
expressed more elegantly than his usual.
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But this is classic fillibustering tactics. If one puts a title then
the poster changes it ten times
the purpose aint the topic but to confuse, derail the 'debate'.
"Classic" because vngelis accuses one David Stevens of doing the
same.I've never heard of any such "filibustering" tactic or even a
similar pettifogging tactic. (But it is a pettifogging truism that
only a fool *necessarily* retains his opponents topic titles in
opposition or response.) With a lot more postings apst now gets,
confusion could be caused IF (big if) titles were the means of
segregating threads. But they aren't, which is why the "technology"
permits an original title in a responsive posting.
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Bereft of any ideological arguments bar defending Californian
capitalism, SRD changes topics.
If vngelis were serious about arguing I'm trying to mislead, he would
take an example of his posting and show CONCRETELY how my title change
was designed to obscure my unresponsiveness to the substance. He
doesn't because 1) the titles I change are typically irrelevant to ANY
colorable argument (e.g. responding to someone from California under
a title attacking California rather than anything the poster wrote);
and 2) vngelis isn't serious, as he covets his titles like a greedy
kulak and doesn't give a hang about clarity of debate.
srd
Petty bourgeois moralism no, peasant authoritarianism never |
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| Vngelis... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:53 pm |
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| srd... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:44 am |
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On Nov 9, 9:17 am, "David Stevens" <passchenda... at (no spam) ymail.com> wrote:
Quote: Mr. Diamond errs in attributing Vngelis' weird
proprietary claims to a peasant mentality. The
traditional peasant mind offers at least the virtue
of a stolid consistency, rather than the erratic
volatility that characterizes an enraged petit
bourgeois during our Era of Capitalist Decay.
Only the property claim, and the yammer about
"the right to []," resembles the traditional peasant,
who was a member of a productive class.
What about the hatred of modernity, antipathy to alien villages, and
propensity to prevaricate (without being a psychopath)?
As to stolidity, vngelis isn't _really_ a peasant, any more than he's
really a Greek. The KDE, the ex-Trotskyist party vngelis supports,
increasingly looks for outlook to the peasant-based Greek Resistance.
As a rule, you can obtain ideology from historical records, but you
can't do much that way to reform your temperament.
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| Vngelis... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:34 am |
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On Nov 9, 5:44 pm, srd <srdiam... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
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What about the hatred of modernity, antipathy to alien villages, and
propensity to prevaricate (without being a psychopath)?
As to stolidity, vngelis isn't _really_ a peasant, any more than he's
really a Greek. The KDE, the ex-Trotskyist party vngelis supports,
increasingly looks for outlook to the peasant-based Greek Resistance.
As a rule, you can obtain ideology from historical records, but you
can't do much that way to reform your temperament.
srd
California is modernity, you keep on telling us.
Sell that to the rest of the world, why they need, to be like that.
You are no more jewish than you assert to be.
We look to resistance to imperialism, you sell it under a 'left'
persona.
Works well for a US audience with no marxist history or culture.
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| David Stevens... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:17 pm |
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Le plus ça change! "Vngelis" <meberry68 at (no spam) hotmail.com>:
Quote: Nearly every thread, SRD changes the titles on a daily basis.
Vngelis hasn't left No Number Land, has he?
Quote: Technology gives one the right to do whatever one wants.
Not yet. It still doesn't allow poor Vngelis to navigate
Usenet postings effectively.
Quote: But this is classic fillibustering tactics. If one puts a title then
the poster changes it ten times
the purpose aint the topic but to confuse, derail the 'debate'.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.socialism.trotsky/browse_thread/thread/846cb58edc0aa05f/7af5970d8a031741?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=%22change+titles%22#7af5970d8a031741
Vngelis never explained this peculiar deficiency on
his part. It's as if his software has been toggled into
"spew only" mode ..
Quote: Bereft of any ideological arguments bar defending Californian
capitalism, SRD changes topics.
.. except that the poor critter lacks even a toggle switch:
Quote: So from now own I will only place articles RAB style and take have no
debate with SRD, as its pointless...
Petit bourgeois impressionism tends to be consistent
only in its very inconsistency. Once again. Vngelis simply
overthrew himself with a flurry of subsequent posts
ostensibly taking issue with Diamond.
Mr. Diamond errs in attributing Vngelis' weird
proprietary claims to a peasant mentality. The
traditional peasant mind offers at least the virtue
of a stolid consistency, rather than the erratic
volatility that characterizes an enraged petit
bourgeois during our Era of Capitalist Decay.
Only the property claim, and the yammer about
"the right to []," resembles the traditional peasant,
who was a member of a productive class.
Quote: A poster who changes topics and
we have to spend time looking for them is a clown.
Unfuckin' snowflake coulrophobe.
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