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Crap Detector...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:38 pm

Guest

Just a few days ago on Fox News a Democrat spokesperson in defending Obama's
record stated that he has kept Americans safe from terrorism
for a year now. Well, that cannot be claimed any more. Although in size the
Fort Hood attack is dwarfed by what happened on 9/11, it was still a
successful terrorist assault carried out on U.S. soil.

I realize that some liberals will try to spin the issue by saying quite a
few U.S. massacres have been perpetrated by non-Muslims over the last few
years, and this one happened because the perpetrator was mentally deranged.
But the fact remains, he is Muslim and it was his Muslim ideology
that caused him to do what he did. If he was not a Muslim, the killings
would no doubt never have happened.

It is interesting to look back at B.O.'s Cairo speech when he tried to say
that the U.S. is not at war with Islam. And that Islam is a peaceful
religion.
Let's face it, this is crap. The U.S. is at war with Islam (and would be
even if the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq stopped). Islam is an armed
doctrine,
said the great British parliamentarian Edmund Burke in the 18th century, and
Winston Churchill made the same observation two centuries later.
Finally, with all due respect to the learned and sage U.S. president, Islam
is not really a religion so much as it is a fascist ideology.

--
By the test of serious intellectual
persuasiveness, Marx was hardly a
a 'great thinker", though he often appears
as such in low-level academic curricula.
---Robert Conquest "Reflections on a
Ravaged Century".

David Deilley...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:38 pm

Guest

On Nov 6, 1:38 pm, "Crap Detector" <detec... at (no spam) utopia.com> wrote:

Quote:

Just a few days ago on Fox News a Democrat spokesperson in defending Obama's

Too bad for you -- your reputation as a chronic lair and a delusional
alcoholic ensure that nobidy in this newsgroup ever takes you
seriously.

David Deilley...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:38 pm

Guest

On Nov 6, 1:38 pm, "Crap Detector" <detec... at (no spam) utopia.com> wrote:

<snip>

Today's Daytona shooter attack PROVES caucasian men "at war with
America."

(At leastm, it does if you apply the childish logic of discredited
Canadain crackpot Ross John Lambourn.)

Pvt. Wilhelm Scream...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:38 pm

Guest

On Nov 6, 6:03 pm, David Deilley <david.deilley.... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Nov 6, 1:38 pm, "Crap Detector" <detec... at (no spam) utopia.com> wrote:

snip

Today's Daytona shooter attack PROVES caucasian men "at war with
America."

(At leastm, it does if you apply the childish logic of discredited
Canadain crackpot Ross John Lambourn.)

And by Lambourn's train of thought, female civilians should be in
battle because they would win all the time.

After all, at Ft. Hood, the incredibly gutsy civilian police officer
who took the perpetrator down was Fort Hood police Sgt. Kimberly
Munley. No questioning her heroism.

Crap Detector...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:38 pm

Guest

On Nov 6, 4:56 pm, Chom Noamsky <d... at (no spam) bark.grrrr> wrote:

Quote:

Crap Detector wrote:
Just a few days ago on Fox News a Democrat spokesperson in defending
Obama's record stated that he has kept Americans safe from terrorism
for a year now. Well, that cannot be claimed any more. Although in size
the Fort Hood attack is dwarfed by what happened on 9/11, it was still a
successful terrorist assault carried out on U.S. soil.

I realize that some liberals will try to spin the issue by saying quite
a few U.S. massacres have been perpetrated by non-Muslims over the last few
years, and this one happened because the perpetrator was mentally
deranged. But the fact remains, he is Muslim and it was his Muslim ideology
that caused him to do what he did. If he was not a Muslim, the killings
would no doubt never have happened.

It is interesting to look back at B.O.'s Cairo speech when he tried to
say that the U.S. is not at war with Islam. And that Islam is a peaceful
religion.
Let's face it, this is crap. The U.S. is at war with Islam (and would be
even if the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq stopped). Islam is an armed
doctrine,
said the great British parliamentarian Edmund Burke in the 18th century,
and Winston Churchill made the same observation two centuries later.
Finally, with all due respect to the learned and sage U.S. president,
Islam is not really a religion so much as it is a fascist ideology.

Every time a Christian goes on a shooting rampage (and they seem to do
that quite often in America) does this also qualify as terrorism?

There are not many real Christians left. Did you mean secular-
progressives?

Timothy McVeigh was not a devout Christian. And he was not a right-
winger as he has been made out to be.
He was a utopian, and utopians are all "liberals", socialists,
Marxists or fascists. McVeigh was very anti-capitalist.

If

Quote:

so, why is America at war with Christianity? Why does Fox News
speculate on motive then pass it off as fact? Why do people like you
listen to entertainers?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Crap Detector...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:38 pm

Guest

On Nov 6, 5:26 pm, David Deilley <david.deilley.... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

On Nov 6, 1:38 pm, "Crap Detector" <detec... at (no spam) utopia.com> wrote:

Just a few days ago on Fox News a Democrat spokesperson in defending Obama's

Too bad for you -- your reputation as a chronic lair and a delusional
alcoholic ensure that nobidy in this newsgroup ever takes you
seriously.

***
Then why have there been so many followups to my thread here?. Most of
them are kooky and completely irrelevant, inconsequential and
immaterial like yours, Deilley, you moron.

Chom Noamsky...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:56 pm

Guest

Crap Detector wrote:

Quote:

Just a few days ago on Fox News a Democrat spokesperson in defending
Obama's record stated that he has kept Americans safe from terrorism
for a year now. Well, that cannot be claimed any more. Although in size
the Fort Hood attack is dwarfed by what happened on 9/11, it was still a
successful terrorist assault carried out on U.S. soil.

I realize that some liberals will try to spin the issue by saying quite
a few U.S. massacres have been perpetrated by non-Muslims over the last few
years, and this one happened because the perpetrator was mentally
deranged. But the fact remains, he is Muslim and it was his Muslim ideology
that caused him to do what he did. If he was not a Muslim, the killings
would no doubt never have happened.

It is interesting to look back at B.O.'s Cairo speech when he tried to
say that the U.S. is not at war with Islam. And that Islam is a peaceful
religion.
Let's face it, this is crap. The U.S. is at war with Islam (and would be
even if the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq stopped). Islam is an armed
doctrine,
said the great British parliamentarian Edmund Burke in the 18th century,
and Winston Churchill made the same observation two centuries later.
Finally, with all due respect to the learned and sage U.S. president,
Islam is not really a religion so much as it is a fascist ideology.

Every time a Christian goes on a shooting rampage (and they seem to do
that quite often in America) does this also qualify as terrorism? If
so, why is America at war with Christianity? Why does Fox News
speculate on motive then pass it off as fact? Why do people like you
listen to entertainers?

socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:58 pm

Guest

"Crap Detector" <detector at (no spam) utopia.com> wrote in message
news:8G0Jm.136796$Ca6.77930 at (no spam) en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com...

Quote:

There was no terrorist assault, you are on drugs too...are you going on one
of those killing assaults

..............
Was Fort Hood Killer On Psychotropic Drugs?

Despite the fact that Fort Hood gunman Nidal Malik Hasan was a psychiatrist,
the media has failed to even raise the question of whether he was taking
psychotropic drugs before he gunned down over a dozen of his colleagues
during yesterday's tragic rampage, a hefty indictment of how the
establishment rushes to blame politics, religion, gun rights, or any other
factor for mass shootings in order to hide the direct link between such
massacres and the use of anti-depressant drugs.

Despite clear link between anti-depressants and mass shootings, media fails
to ask if Hasan was on SSRI's

Friday, November 6, 2009

Despite the fact that Fort Hood gunman Nidal Malik Hasan was a psychiatrist,
the media has failed to even raise the question of whether he was taking
psychotropic drugs before he gunned down over a dozen of his colleagues
during yesterday's tragic rampage, a hefty indictment of how the
establishment rushes to blame politics, religion, gun rights, or any other
factor for mass shootings in order to hide the direct link between such
massacres and the use of anti-depressant drugs.

It has been confirmed that Hasan was an Army psychiatrist at Fort Hood.
Psychiatrists have a history of "self-medication" because of the easy access
they have to psychotropic drugs. See below

In almost every major mass shooting over the past two decades, since
anti-depressant drugs became popular, the killer has been on SSRI's -
serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

The establishment media, allied closely as it is with the pharmaceutical
industry, uniformly fails to stress this common factor, preferring instead
to blame shootings on gun rights or, as in the case of Hasan, political
motives.

However, any fair study of mass shootings cannot justifiably come to any
other conclusion but the fact that SSRI's play a central role in causing
assassin's to go berserk and engage in the kind of carnage that the average
person struggles to comprehend.

Immediately after we learned of the Virginia Tech massacre, the largest mass
shooting in U.S. history by a single gunman, we predicted that the assassin
would be on psychotropic drugs, which is exactly what turned out to be the
case.

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2007/apr/18/nation/chi-0704170925apr18

Columbine shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, as well as 15-year-old Kip
Kinkel, the Oregon killer who gunned down his parents and classmates, were
all on psychotropic drugs.

Robert Hawkins, the 19 year old who killed himself and eight other people
with an assault rifle in Omaha, Nebraska in December 2007 had a history of
treatment with psychiatric drugs for depression and ADHD (Attention Deficit
Hyperactivity Disorder) and was on prozac.

Jeff Weise, the Red Lake High School killer was on prozac, "Unabomber" Ted
Kaczinski, Michael McDermott, John Hinckley, Jr., Byran Uyesugi, Mark David
Chapman and Charles Carl Roberts IV, the Amish school killer, were all on
SSRI psychotropic drugs.

Northern Illinois University killer Steven Kazmierczak had taken Prozac.

Since these deadly drugs are prevalent in almost all mass shooting
incidents, where is the call to ban prozac? Why is the knee-jerk reaction
always to attack the 2nd Amendment rights of Americans to self-defense? The
fact that yesterday's shooting occurred on an Army base is the only reason
that the establishment media has been unable to blame the carnage on gun
rights. Instead, they have exploited Hasan's religion to stir up more hatred
for Muslims in a crude attempt to reinvigorate flagging public support for
the war on terror.

Scientific studies proving that prozac encourages suicidal tendencies are
voluminous and span back nearly a decade.

In 2005, it was revealed that Eli Lilly had full knowledge of a 1200%
increase in suicide risk for takers of their Prozac. This evidence came in
the wake of findings published in the British Medical Journal a year
previously.

In 2006 a report was published outlining the fact that anti-depressant drug
Paxil doubles the risk of violent behavior. Another study published in the
Archives of General Psychiatry revealed that teens taking antidepressant
drugs are more likely to commit suicide.

It is a well known fact among the makers of these drugs that they are
directly linked to behavioral disturbances including agitation, panic
attacks and extreme aggression, yet their use is so commonplace that they
have now even found their way into our drinking water.

The corporate media, owned as it is by the U.S. military-industrial complex,
will continue to gratuitously and shamelessly exploit yesterday's tragedy by
characterizing Hasan's religious and political beliefs as the main
motivation behind the massacre, without even investigating whether or not he
was taking psychotropic drugs and what role these played in why he suddenly
snapped, a character trait completely at odds with how Hasan's own family
described his personality.

The videos below highlight the connection between psychotropic drugs and
violence.

CCHR Videos 10a - Prescription For Violence. Anti-Depressants. Psychotropic
Drugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgrb2CmoRhM

CCHR Videos 10b - Prescription For Violence. Anti-Depressants. Psychotropic
Drugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0fr-aCmx2Q

..............

Was Fort Hood Psychiatrist/Shooter on drugs that cause homicidal/suicidal
reactions? 16% of psychiatrists "self medicate"

Citizens Commission On Human Rights International
Friday, November 6, 2009

Despite the admitted fact that Hasan was a psychiatrist, and many
psychiatrists self-medicate, the establishment media has uniformly failed to
ask whether the shooter was on Prozac, as is the case in almost every other
mass shooting.

Richard Balon
Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics
Vol. 76, No. 5, 2007

Abstract

Background: Self-treatment and treatments of friends or relatives is a
controversial issue, tolerated by some and discouraged by others, including
professionals. The author studied the attitudes toward self-treatment of
depression among psychiatrists in Michigan. Method: A questionnaire asking
whether the psychiatrist would or did self-treat for depression was mailed
to 830 members of the Michigan Psychiatric Society. Results: The response
rate was 68.3% (567 psychiatrists). Almost 43% of responders would consider
self-medication or would self-medicate if afflicted with mild/moderate
depression. Seven percent would self-medicate or consider self-medication
for severe depression or if suicidal ideation became a component of one's
depression. In the past, 15.7% responders treated themselves for depression.
Conclusion: These results suggest that a considerable number of
psychiatrists would treat themselves for depression, possibly because of
fear of stigma or fear of a permanent record, or other reasons.

Click here for article

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?doi=10.1159/000104707

--

Fort Hood Texas Shooter was Army Psychiatrist
Thursday, November 5th, 2009

Adam Arnold
Sky News
November 5, 2009

At least 12 people have been shot dead and 31 others wounded after a US
soldier went on the rampage at a military base in Texas.

The suspect, named as Major Malik Nadal Hasan, was killed on site after
opening fire at the massive Fort Hood complex in Killeen.

Major Hasan, who was armed with two handguns, was thought to be in his late
30s and was an army psychiatrist.

He was due to be sent to Iraq soon but had aired grievances about the
planned deployment, Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson told CNN.

Two other soldiers are being held as suspects following the mass shooting.

It took place at the Soldier Readiness Centre, where troops preparing for
overseas deployment were getting last-minute medical checkups.

The two suspects were detained at a nearby building on the base.

Read entire article

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Twelve-People-Killed-After-Soldier-Goes-On-Rampage-At-Fort-Hood-Military-Base-In-Texas/Article/200911115440127?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15440127_US%3A_Twelve_People_Killed_After_Soldier_Goes_On_Rampage_At_Fort_Hood_Military_Base_In_Texas_

Shootings took place at Soldier Readiness Centre. See this:
http://www.crdamc.amedd.army.mil/default.asp?page=behavh

-----------------

Before psychiatrists start vying for more $ to drug troops ask: Was Fort
Hood, Texas shooter part of our medicated army?
Thursday, November 5th, 2009

Mark Thompson
TIME
June 5, 2008

Seven months after Sergeant Christopher LeJeune started scouting Baghdad's
dangerous roads - acting as bait to lure insurgents into the open so his
Army unit could kill them - he found himself growing increasingly
despondent. "We'd been doing some heavy missions, and things were starting
to bother me," LeJeune says. His unit had been protecting Iraqi police
stations targeted by rocket-propelled grenades, hunting down mortars hidden
in dark Baghdad basements and cleaning up its own messes. He recalls the
order his unit got after a nighttime firefight to roll back out and collect
the enemy dead. When LeJeune and his buddies arrived, they discovered that
some of the bodies were still alive. "You don't always know who the bad guys
are," he says. "When you search someone's house, you have it built up in
your mind that these guys are terrorists, but when you go in, there's little
bitty tiny shoes and toys on the floor - things like that started affecting
me a lot more than I thought they would."

So LeJeune visited a military doctor in Iraq, who, after a quick session,
diagnosed depression. The doctor sent him back to war armed with the
antidepressant Zoloft and the antianxiety drug clonazepam. "It's not easy
for soldiers to admit the problems that they're having over there for a
variety of reasons," LeJeune says. "If they do admit it, then the only
solution given is pills."

Read entire article:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1811858,00.html#ixzz0W1zJLYPY

socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:02 pm

Guest

"Chom Noamsky" <dog at (no spam) bark.grrrr> wrote in message
news:3Y0Jm.51733$PH1.27392 at (no spam) edtnps82...

Quote:

Crap Detector wrote:
Just a few days ago on Fox News a Democrat spokesperson in defending
Obama's record stated that he has kept Americans safe from terrorism
for a year now. Well, that cannot be claimed any more. Although in size
the Fort Hood attack is dwarfed by what happened on 9/11, it was still a
successful terrorist assault carried out on U.S. soil.

I realize that some liberals will try to spin the issue by saying quite
a few U.S. massacres have been perpetrated by non-Muslims over the last
few
years, and this one happened because the perpetrator was mentally
deranged. But the fact remains, he is Muslim and it was his Muslim
ideology
that caused him to do what he did. If he was not a Muslim, the killings
would no doubt never have happened.

It is interesting to look back at B.O.'s Cairo speech when he tried to
say that the U.S. is not at war with Islam. And that Islam is a peaceful
religion.
Let's face it, this is crap. The U.S. is at war with Islam (and would be
even if the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq stopped). Islam is an armed
doctrine,
said the great British parliamentarian Edmund Burke in the 18th century,
and Winston Churchill made the same observation two centuries later.
Finally, with all due respect to the learned and sage U.S. president,
Islam is not really a religion so much as it is a fascist ideology.

Every time a Christian goes on a shooting rampage

This has nothing to do with Christians you fucking kook....get off you
socilaist retardation fever you have

Quote:

(and they seem to do
that quite often in America) does this also qualify as terrorism? If
so, why is America at war with Christianity? Why does Fox News
speculate on motive then pass it off as fact? Why do people like you
listen to entertainers?

Why do you buy government propaganda when governments are terrorists, does
that make you a useful idiot then Chimpy..

There was no terrorist assault, you are on drugs too...are you going on one
of those killing assaults for socilaist dimwits
..............

Was Fort Hood Killer On Psychotropic Drugs?

Despite the fact that Fort Hood gunman Nidal Malik Hasan was a psychiatrist,
the media has failed to even raise the question of whether he was taking
psychotropic drugs before he gunned down over a dozen of his colleagues
during yesterday's tragic rampage, a hefty indictment of how the
establishment rushes to blame politics, religion, gun rights, or any other
factor for mass shootings in order to hide the direct link between such
massacres and the use of anti-depressant drugs.

Despite clear link between anti-depressants and mass shootings, media fails
to ask if Hasan was on SSRI's

Friday, November 6, 2009

Despite the fact that Fort Hood gunman Nidal Malik Hasan was a psychiatrist,
the media has failed to even raise the question of whether he was taking
psychotropic drugs before he gunned down over a dozen of his colleagues
during yesterday's tragic rampage, a hefty indictment of how the
establishment rushes to blame politics, religion, gun rights, or any other
factor for mass shootings in order to hide the direct link between such
massacres and the use of anti-depressant drugs.

It has been confirmed that Hasan was an Army psychiatrist at Fort Hood.
Psychiatrists have a history of "self-medication" because of the easy access
they have to psychotropic drugs. See below

In almost every major mass shooting over the past two decades, since
anti-depressant drugs became popular, the killer has been on SSRI's -
serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

The establishment media, allied closely as it is with the pharmaceutical
industry, uniformly fails to stress this common factor, preferring instead
to blame shootings on gun rights or, as in the case of Hasan, political
motives.

However, any fair study of mass shootings cannot justifiably come to any
other conclusion but the fact that SSRI's play a central role in causing
assassin's to go berserk and engage in the kind of carnage that the average
person struggles to comprehend.

Immediately after we learned of the Virginia Tech massacre, the largest mass
shooting in U.S. history by a single gunman, we predicted that the assassin
would be on psychotropic drugs, which is exactly what turned out to be the
case.

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2007/apr/18/nation/chi-0704170925apr18

Columbine shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, as well as 15-year-old Kip
Kinkel, the Oregon killer who gunned down his parents and classmates, were
all on psychotropic drugs.

Robert Hawkins, the 19 year old who killed himself and eight other people
with an assault rifle in Omaha, Nebraska in December 2007 had a history of
treatment with psychiatric drugs for depression and ADHD (Attention Deficit
Hyperactivity Disorder) and was on prozac.

Jeff Weise, the Red Lake High School killer was on prozac, "Unabomber" Ted
Kaczinski, Michael McDermott, John Hinckley, Jr., Byran Uyesugi, Mark David
Chapman and Charles Carl Roberts IV, the Amish school killer, were all on
SSRI psychotropic drugs.

Northern Illinois University killer Steven Kazmierczak had taken Prozac.

Since these deadly drugs are prevalent in almost all mass shooting
incidents, where is the call to ban prozac? Why is the knee-jerk reaction
always to attack the 2nd Amendment rights of Americans to self-defense? The
fact that yesterday's shooting occurred on an Army base is the only reason
that the establishment media has been unable to blame the carnage on gun
rights. Instead, they have exploited Hasan's religion to stir up more hatred
for Muslims in a crude attempt to reinvigorate flagging public support for
the war on terror.

Scientific studies proving that prozac encourages suicidal tendencies are
voluminous and span back nearly a decade.

In 2005, it was revealed that Eli Lilly had full knowledge of a 1200%
increase in suicide risk for takers of their Prozac. This evidence came in
the wake of findings published in the British Medical Journal a year
previously.

In 2006 a report was published outlining the fact that anti-depressant drug
Paxil doubles the risk of violent behavior. Another study published in the
Archives of General Psychiatry revealed that teens taking antidepressant
drugs are more likely to commit suicide.

It is a well known fact among the makers of these drugs that they are
directly linked to behavioral disturbances including agitation, panic
attacks and extreme aggression, yet their use is so commonplace that they
have now even found their way into our drinking water.

The corporate media, owned as it is by the U.S. military-industrial complex,
will continue to gratuitously and shamelessly exploit yesterday's tragedy by
characterizing Hasan's religious and political beliefs as the main
motivation behind the massacre, without even investigating whether or not he
was taking psychotropic drugs and what role these played in why he suddenly
snapped, a character trait completely at odds with how Hasan's own family
described his personality.

The videos below highlight the connection between psychotropic drugs and
violence.

CCHR Videos 10a - Prescription For Violence. Anti-Depressants. Psychotropic
Drugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgrb2CmoRhM

CCHR Videos 10b - Prescription For Violence. Anti-Depressants. Psychotropic
Drugs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0fr-aCmx2Q

..............

Was Fort Hood Psychiatrist/Shooter on drugs that cause homicidal/suicidal
reactions? 16% of psychiatrists "self medicate"

Citizens Commission On Human Rights International
Friday, November 6, 2009

Despite the admitted fact that Hasan was a psychiatrist, and many
psychiatrists self-medicate, the establishment media has uniformly failed to
ask whether the shooter was on Prozac, as is the case in almost every other
mass shooting.

Richard Balon
Psychotherapy and Psychosomatics
Vol. 76, No. 5, 2007

Abstract

Background: Self-treatment and treatments of friends or relatives is a
controversial issue, tolerated by some and discouraged by others, including
professionals. The author studied the attitudes toward self-treatment of
depression among psychiatrists in Michigan. Method: A questionnaire asking
whether the psychiatrist would or did self-treat for depression was mailed
to 830 members of the Michigan Psychiatric Society. Results: The response
rate was 68.3% (567 psychiatrists). Almost 43% of responders would consider
self-medication or would self-medicate if afflicted with mild/moderate
depression. Seven percent would self-medicate or consider self-medication
for severe depression or if suicidal ideation became a component of one's
depression. In the past, 15.7% responders treated themselves for depression.
Conclusion: These results suggest that a considerable number of
psychiatrists would treat themselves for depression, possibly because of
fear of stigma or fear of a permanent record, or other reasons.

Click here for article

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/produkte.asp?doi=10.1159/000104707

--

Fort Hood Texas Shooter was Army Psychiatrist
Thursday, November 5th, 2009

Adam Arnold
Sky News
November 5, 2009

At least 12 people have been shot dead and 31 others wounded after a US
soldier went on the rampage at a military base in Texas.

The suspect, named as Major Malik Nadal Hasan, was killed on site after
opening fire at the massive Fort Hood complex in Killeen.

Major Hasan, who was armed with two handguns, was thought to be in his late
30s and was an army psychiatrist.

He was due to be sent to Iraq soon but had aired grievances about the
planned deployment, Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson told CNN.

Two other soldiers are being held as suspects following the mass shooting.

It took place at the Soldier Readiness Centre, where troops preparing for
overseas deployment were getting last-minute medical checkups.

The two suspects were detained at a nearby building on the base.

Read entire article

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Twelve-People-Killed-After-Soldier-Goes-On-Rampage-At-Fort-Hood-Military-Base-In-Texas/Article/200911115440127?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15440127_US%3A_Twelve_People_Killed_After_Soldier_Goes_On_Rampage_At_Fort_Hood_Military_Base_In_Texas_

Shootings took place at Soldier Readiness Centre. See this:
http://www.crdamc.amedd.army.mil/default.asp?page=behavh

-----------------

Before psychiatrists start vying for more $ to drug troops ask: Was Fort
Hood, Texas shooter part of our medicated army?
Thursday, November 5th, 2009

Mark Thompson
TIME
June 5, 2008

Seven months after Sergeant Christopher LeJeune started scouting Baghdad's
dangerous roads - acting as bait to lure insurgents into the open so his
Army unit could kill them - he found himself growing increasingly
despondent. "We'd been doing some heavy missions, and things were starting
to bother me," LeJeune says. His unit had been protecting Iraqi police
stations targeted by rocket-propelled grenades, hunting down mortars hidden
in dark Baghdad basements and cleaning up its own messes. He recalls the
order his unit got after a nighttime firefight to roll back out and collect
the enemy dead. When LeJeune and his buddies arrived, they discovered that
some of the bodies were still alive. "You don't always know who the bad guys
are," he says. "When you search someone's house, you have it built up in
your mind that these guys are terrorists, but when you go in, there's little
bitty tiny shoes and toys on the floor - things like that started affecting
me a lot more than I thought they would."

So LeJeune visited a military doctor in Iraq, who, after a quick session,
diagnosed depression. The doctor sent him back to war armed with the
antidepressant Zoloft and the antianxiety drug clonazepam. "It's not easy
for soldiers to admit the problems that they're having over there for a
variety of reasons," LeJeune says. "If they do admit it, then the only
solution given is pills."

Read entire article:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1811858,00.html#ixzz0W1zJLYPY

IAAH...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:02 pm

Guest

On 11/6/09 4:38 PM, * Crap Detector wrote:

Quote:

Proof or STFU, GTFO.

Did you claim that the Oklahoma City bombing was
Christian terrorism? I bet you didn't.

--
"I do not pretend to be able to prove that there
is no God. I equally cannot
prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian god
may exist; so may the gods of
Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon. But
no one of these hypotheses is
more probable than any other: they lie outside the
region of even probable
knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to
consider any of them."
Bertrand Russell

socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:03 pm

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"Chom Noamsky" <dog at (no spam) bark.grrrr> wrote in message
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Quote:

Every time a Christian goes on a shooting rampage
How Salacious Media Coverage Glorifies And Encourages Mass Shootings

The following video is satirical but it raises many good points about how
salacious media coverage of mass shooting events actively encourages future
mass shooting tragedies. This is especially relevant in light of today's
shootings in Orlando.

Friday, November 6, 2009

The following video is satirical but it raises many good points about how
salacious media coverage of mass shooting events actively encourages future
mass shooting tragedies. This is especially relevant in light of today's
shootings in Orlando.

"Every time we have intense saturation coverage of a mass murder, we expect
to see one or two more within a week."

Fast-forward 6 minutes into the clip for the pertinent segment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd8IdK-T1Ew

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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:07 pm

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"Chom Noamsky" <dog at (no spam) bark.grrrr> wrote in message
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Quote:

Every time a Christian goes on a shooting rampage

Every time a government terrorism operation goes forth the truley dimwitted
buy the propaganda of media kooks who in turn can't help spreading
government terrorism.

.............
Fort Hood Shooter Information Not Adding Up

A careful examination of just some of the more widely stated information
shows there are troubling and conflicting problems with the MSM and
government's version of what happened.

Friday, November 6, 2009

What happened Thursday November 5, 2009 was a tragedy. Gunman Major Nidal
Malik Hasan allegedly snapped and went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood in
Texas, killing at least 12 and injuring 31 others. The information coming in
has been conflicting and at times wildly contradictory. Some of this is the
result of the newness of the tragedy. But through nonstop coverege the media
has begun to flesh out a good deal of the story, and yet a careful
examination of just some of the more widely stated information shows there
are troubling and conflicting problems with the MSM and government's version
of what happened.

This is starting to have the earmarks and anatomy of a disinformation psy
ops story.

For instance, the media reported that Hasan was promoted to Major in May of
this year. And yet, stories coming from what is passing as his family, the
FBI and co-workers state that Hasan had wanted out of the military given the
government's stand on Afghanistan and Muslims. Indeed, his Aunt "Noel Hasan"
(who is interestingly enough identified herself as a Bank President) and his
cousin both gave statements to the media which provided that Hasan wanted
out of the military and had been harassed since 9-11 about his Muslim faith.
Co-workers and the authorities have also stated that Hasan had an Internet
presence and a Facebook account, and the FBI has him under survailance for
the past 6 months for radical anti-American and pro-Muslim writings on his
online accounts.

Now, why on earth would the military promote a man who was unhappy, had
objected to being in the military, had not wanted to deploy to anywhere
outside of the U.S., and who had allegedly made himself a security threat
with online radical comments? The answer is they would never promote such an
individual, and someone who badly wants out of the military (to the point of
offering to pay back medical school costs to the U.S. military, according to
Hasan's Banker aunt). Not only that, if Hasan was truly radical and wanted
out he would have never put in for a promotion to Major. But the fact
remains he was promoted to Major this year. Try to reconcile those
conflicting testimonies and facts.

The media had originally reported that witnesses had seen between 3 and 5
gunmen. Then that number went to 3, with Hasan being wounded and taken in to
custody, and two other suspects allegedly being taken into custody and later
released after being "cleared" and jumping into a Crown Victoria with US
Government license plates on it (and men in suits inside). Now we are even
being told that Hasan was yelling "Allahu Akbar" or (Allah is good) while he
was gunning down victims. Hours ago witnesses remarked how methodical and
stoic the accused gunman was.

On top of this, several outlets were reporting that Hasan was an expert or
marksman shooter with a pistol in the army, and had spent numerous hours
honing his shooting skills. Then, that rumor was undercut by the following
statement to Fox News:

"The shooter's cousin, Nader Hasan, told Fox News that their family is in
shock.

"We are trying to make sense of all this," Nader Hasan said. "He wasn't even
someone who enjoyed going to the firing range."

They cannot even decide if the man if 40 or 39. And on top of that, he
graduated from Virginia Tech for his undergraduate work, and others "close"
to Hasan said he was gentle and quiet and wanted to make a career out of his
Psychiatry degree in the military. Hasan was not married, but very religious
who prayed daily. One source stated he was not looking for a wife, another
source (in the same article) says he was.

Confused yet? It is only going to get worse. And one thing is for sure,
Hasan will be the lone gunman, the other's idenitified by eyewitnesses as
shooters as well will be ignored and forgotten by the military and the
media. And Hasan will be portrayed as a radical unstable Muslim idealist
who somehow passed screening into the Army, into Army medical school and
psychiatry residency, and the lone gunman here.

And since Hasan has no immediate family and is single, with two so-called
family members who appear to have all the media savvy of a PR man from the
Rendon Group, he is the perfect patsy.

I hate to say it, but this tragedy stinks to high heavens and reaks of
clandestine intelligence operations.
Only time will tell, but the government media complex will continue to lie
about this for as long as they can get away with it. And against this
backdrop, the website Chicago.com is blasting President Obama for his
Frightening Insinsesativity following the shootings.

We are truly living in a bizarre and corrupt time.

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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:22 pm

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"IAAH" <no at (no spam) email.exist> wrote in message
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Quote:

On 11/6/09 4:38 PM, * Crap Detector wrote:
Just a few days ago on Fox News a Democrat spokesperson in defending
Obama's record stated that he has kept Americans safe from terrorism
for a year now. Well, that cannot be claimed any more. Although in size
the Fort Hood attack is dwarfed by what happened on 9/11, it was still a
successful terrorist assault carried out on U.S. soil.

I realize that some liberals will try to spin the issue by saying quite
a few U.S. massacres have been perpetrated by non-Muslims over the last
few
years, and this one happened because the perpetrator was mentally
deranged. But the fact remains, he is Muslim and it was his Muslim
ideology
that caused him to do what he did. If he was not a Muslim, the killings
would no doubt never have happened.

Proof or STFU, GTFO.

Did you claim that the Oklahoma City bombing was
Christian terrorism? I bet you didn't.

I am seeing a serious pattern with socilaists these days and how their minds
are sick and diseased, shouting insane slogens to support each other with,
as do the political elite kooks, as they all hate god and Christians..but
will support evil government terrorism.. it is no wonder those kooks like to
spoon feed each others hate with unbalanced mindless kookery that everyone
is terrorists......A real good example is.... from BC where a Liberal MLA
claims People who protest the Winter Olympics are nothing more than
"terrorists" with "limited intellect," stated Liberal Burquitlam MLA Harry
Bloy said in the legislature Monday. Bloy's comments come in support of a
private member's bill motion by Richmond Centre MLA Rob Howard to welcome
the Olympic torch to B.C., and recognize the unprecedented economic
opportunity the Winter Olympics and Paralympics will bring.

According to Hansard, Bloy expressed his pride at being Canadian and British
Columbians particularly as the region gets ready to host the Games with the
start of the torch relay.

Then he expressed his opinion about Olympic protesters: "You know, there was
a disappointing factor about the Olympics. It was that 200-odd group of
terrorists who came to Victoria from across Canada to interrupt the Games.
Anyone who could support this group should be ashamed of themselves.

"They do not understand, these terrorists, the potential goodwill and
economic benefits that come from these games, because they have a limited
intellect and do not understand how the world truly operates." Howard's
motion was approved.

P. U. Stinkly...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:36 pm

Guest

socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights wrote:

Quote:

"IAAH" <no at (no spam) email.exist> wrote in message
news:hd26e1$ko6$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org...
On 11/6/09 4:38 PM, * Crap Detector wrote:
Just a few days ago on Fox News a Democrat spokesperson in defending
Obama's record stated that he has kept Americans safe from terrorism
for a year now. Well, that cannot be claimed any more. Although in size
the Fort Hood attack is dwarfed by what happened on 9/11, it was still a
successful terrorist assault carried out on U.S. soil.

I realize that some liberals will try to spin the issue by saying quite
a few U.S. massacres have been perpetrated by non-Muslims over the last
few
years, and this one happened because the perpetrator was mentally
deranged. But the fact remains, he is Muslim and it was his Muslim
ideology
that caused him to do what he did. If he was not a Muslim, the killings
would no doubt never have happened.
Proof or STFU, GTFO.

Did you claim that the Oklahoma City bombing was
Christian terrorism? I bet you didn't.

I am seeing a serious pattern with socilaists these days

I'm seeing a serious pattern with people who don't know what a socialist
is (or how to spell it).

It just goes to show that there are illiterate fools in British Columbia
too.

Garry...

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:56 pm

Guest

Crap Detector wrote

Quote:

Between 1969 and 1971, the Army reported 600 fragging incidents that killed 82
Americans and injured 651, according to the Associated Press. In 1971 alone,
there were 1.8 fraggings for every 1,000 American soldiers serving in Vietnam,
not including gun and knife assaults.

Such incidents have dropped dramatically. But in recent years there have been
several incidents in the United States and Iraq. As tallied by NBC News and the
Associated Press, they include:

- May 11, 2009: Five soldiers shot dead at Camp Liberty in Baghdad by Sgt. John
Russell.

- Sept. 8, 2008: Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan shoots himself to death after killing
1st Lt. Robert Bartlett Fletcher at Fort Hood.

- Feb. 25, 2008: Dustin Thorson, an Air Force technical sergeant, fatally shoots
his son and daughter at home on Tinker Air Base in Oklahoma in domestic dispute
with ex-wife. He had been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder after
returning from Iraq.

- June 7 2005: Two National Guard officers are killed by a grenade at
headquarters in Tikrit. Staff Sgt. Alberto Martinez is later acquitted of murder
in a court-martial.

- Oct. 27, 1995: Sgt. William Kreutzer goes on shooting spree at Fort Bragg,
killing one and injuring 18 in a sniper attack during formation. He is serving a
life sentence after a death sentence was overturned.

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