Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo...

Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo...

On Nov 6, 1:20 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:



Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo...

Another one of those right wing terrorists we've heard so much about?
I wonder which category he falls under:  concerned about illegal
immigration, voted for Ron Paul, concerned about big governnment, a
teabagger, Palin supporter, or was he another dangerous 2nd amendment
supporter?  I thought all those right wing nut cases were being
watched?

Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
Islam-
inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.

Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?

It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.

Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
the 9/11 disaster.

Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.

The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
RELIGION.

Who's your enemy, Baby?

On Nov 6, 9:12 am, "f. barnes" <fre... at (no spam) centurytel.net> wrote:



On Nov 6, 1:20 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:

Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo....

Another one of those right wing terrorists we've heard so much about?
I wonder which category he falls under:  concerned about illegal
immigration, voted for Ron Paul, concerned about big governnment, a
teabagger, Palin supporter, or was he another dangerous 2nd amendment
supporter?  I thought all those right wing nut cases were being
watched?

Did you happen to notice that the early reports coming out of Fort
Hood said that none of the soldiers other than Hasan were armed,
because all firearms on the base were kept locked up.  I recall some
other base where all soldiers who lived off base (maybe on base as
well) had to report to the base commander all their personal
"stockpiles" of weapons.  In other words, it was like Virginia Tech
where students were not allowed to have guns on campus.  Thus, the
soldiers at Fort Hood were the proverbial "sitting ducks" for Hasan,
just as Virginia Tech students were when Cho went on his killing
rampage.  What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
guns on base?  No wonder Hasan was able to kill so many soldiers.
Don't think that Al Qaeda or MS13 haven't taken note that our soldiers
on bases are unarmed.  I wonder if they have the Minutemen defending
the WMD's, waiting in lawn chairs to call the police if Al Qaeda shows
up.

Iconoclast
alt.politics.immigrationwww.rescuewithoutborders.org

Call it what you will, but the Fort Hood bloodbath is the first major
Islam-
inspired suicide attack in the "homeland" since 9/11.

Look for more, of various kinds, planning for which has probably been
underway for months if not years. Can you picture 30 or so people
killed on a New York City street by a suicide bomber?

It's why, for rational security reasons -- every U.S. adult resident
with a Muslim surname, especially those directly involved with the
military, firearms sales and associations, explosive components
inquiries, and those in communication with Islamic groups here and
abroad -- ALL should be under watch and monitoring by our CIA and FBI.

Even though those federal agencies under Bush dismally failed us in
the 9/11 disaster.

Remember, everything changed on 9/11, especially trust in and
tolerance of Muslims of every stripe.

The U.S. is at war all right, and ultimately they're both about
RELIGION.

Who's your enemy, Baby?

What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
guns on base?

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:34:31 -0800 (PST), Iconoclast
goldstein at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:

What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
guns on base?


Every modern army since WW2, actually, or before.

They werent in training, they werent in the field..they were in offices.

On Nov 6, 8:34 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:12 am, "f. barnes" <fre... at (no spam) centurytel.net> wrote:



On Nov 6, 1:20 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:

Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo...

Another one of those right wing terrorists we've heard so much about?
I wonder which category he falls under:  concerned about illegal
immigration, voted for Ron Paul, concerned about big governnment, a
teabagger, Palin supporter, or was he another dangerous 2nd amendment
supporter?  I thought all those right wing nut cases were being
watched?

Did you happen to notice that the early reports coming out of Fort
Hood said that none of the soldiers other than Hasan were armed,
because all firearms on the base were kept locked up.  I recall some
other base where all soldiers who lived off base (maybe on base as
well) had to report to the base commander all their personal
"stockpiles" of weapons.  In other words, it was like Virginia Tech
where students were not allowed to have guns on campus.  Thus, the
soldiers at Fort Hood were the proverbial "sitting ducks" for Hasan,
just as Virginia Tech students were when Cho went on his killing
rampage.  What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
guns on base?  No wonder Hasan was able to kill so many soldiers.
Don't think that Al Qaeda or MS13 haven't taken note that our soldiers
on bases are unarmed.  I wonder if they have the Minutemen defending
the WMD's, waiting in lawn chairs to call the police if Al Qaeda shows
up.

Iconoclast
alt.politics.immigrationwww.rescuewithoutborders.org

Arming with gun is not a solution in this matter no matter how many
guns
you want people to arm. There is no such thing shooting-free arm-
citizen.
One of crazy guy will going shooting rampage. Gun issue is an
american tragedy
and is a illusion that gun will protect people. There are crazy
arm-citizen so easy
to going shooting rampage. In this trouble time, it will further
escalate killing.

Red Cloud wrote:
On Nov 6, 8:34 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:

On Nov 6, 9:12 am, "f. barnes" <fre... at (no spam) centurytel.net> wrote:

On Nov 6, 1:20 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:

Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo....

Another one of those right wing terrorists we've heard so much about?
I wonder which category he falls under:  concerned about illegal
immigration, voted for Ron Paul, concerned about big governnment, a
teabagger, Palin supporter, or was he another dangerous 2nd amendment
supporter?  I thought all those right wing nut cases were being
watched?

Did you happen to notice that the early reports coming out of Fort
Hood said that none of the soldiers other than Hasan were armed,
because all firearms on the base were kept locked up.  I recall some
other base where all soldiers who lived off base (maybe on base as
well) had to report to the base commander all their personal
"stockpiles" of weapons.  In other words, it was like Virginia Tech
where students were not allowed to have guns on campus.  Thus, the
soldiers at Fort Hood were the proverbial "sitting ducks" for Hasan,
just as Virginia Tech students were when Cho went on his killing
rampage.  What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
guns on base?  No wonder Hasan was able to kill so many soldiers.
Don't think that Al Qaeda or MS13 haven't taken note that our soldiers
on bases are unarmed.  I wonder if they have the Minutemen defending
the WMD's, waiting in lawn chairs to call the police if Al Qaeda shows
up.

Iconoclast
alt.politics.immigrationwww.rescuewithoutborders.org

Arming with gun is not a solution in this matter no matter how many
guns
you want people to arm. There is no such thing shooting-free arm-
citizen.
One of crazy guy will going shooting rampage.  Gun issue is an
american tragedy
and is a  illusion that gun will protect people.    There are crazy
arm-citizen so easy
to going shooting rampage.  In this trouble time, it will further
escalate killing.

good. We need a whole lot of killing.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 00:19:14 -0800 (PST), Red Cloud <mmdir2... at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:



On Nov 6, 8:34 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:
On Nov 6, 9:12 am, "f. barnes" <fre... at (no spam) centurytel.net> wrote:

On Nov 6, 1:20 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:

Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo...

Another one of those right wing terrorists we've heard so much about?
I wonder which category he falls under:  concerned about illegal
immigration, voted for Ron Paul, concerned about big governnment, a
teabagger, Palin supporter, or was he another dangerous 2nd amendment
supporter?  I thought all those right wing nut cases were being
watched?

Did you happen to notice that the early reports coming out of Fort
Hood said that none of the soldiers other than Hasan were armed,
because all firearms on the base were kept locked up.  I recall some
other base where all soldiers who lived off base (maybe on base as
well) had to report to the base commander all their personal
"stockpiles" of weapons.  In other words, it was like Virginia Tech
where students were not allowed to have guns on campus.  Thus, the
soldiers at Fort Hood were the proverbial "sitting ducks" for Hasan,
just as Virginia Tech students were when Cho went on his killing
rampage.  What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
guns on base?  No wonder Hasan was able to kill so many soldiers.
Don't think that Al Qaeda or MS13 haven't taken note that our soldiers
on bases are unarmed.  I wonder if they have the Minutemen defending
the WMD's, waiting in lawn chairs to call the police if Al Qaeda shows
up.

Iconoclast
alt.politics.immigrationwww.rescuewithoutborders.org

Arming with gun is not a solution in this matter no matter how many
guns
you want people to arm. There is no such thing shooting-free arm-
citizen.
One of crazy guy will going shooting rampage.  Gun issue is an
american tragedy
and is a  illusion that gun will protect people.    There are crazy
arm-citizen so easy
to going shooting rampage.  In this trouble time, it will further
escalate killing.

Blink blink....english isnt your first language is it?

On Nov 6, 1:20 am, Iconoclast <goldst... at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:

Fort Hood shooting: Nidal Malik Hasan 'said Muslims should rise up'

Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who allegedly killed 11 people before being
shot and wounded by police at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise
up" and attack Americans in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a
former army colleague said.

By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009

Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, alleged Maj Hasan had angry confrontations with other
officers over his views.

Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6511591/Fo...


Another one of those right wing terrorists we've heard so much about?
I wonder which category he falls under: concerned about illegal
immigration, voted for Ron Paul, concerned about big governnment, a
teabagger, Palin supporter, or was he another dangerous 2nd amendment
supporter? I thought all those right wing nut cases were being
watched?

appears that you are full of shit. He is a liberal panty waste. hiding

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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:34:31 -0800 (PST), Iconoclast
goldstein at (no spam) nym.hush.com> wrote:


What kind of army doesn't trust its own soldiers to have
guns on base?

Every modern army since WW2, actually, or before.

They werent in training, they werent in the field..they were in offices.


They're in their homes actually, you dumbass.




I think they should all be armed at all times. That is what they do.