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Wide Eyed in Wonder...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:57 am
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So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies)
posted a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional government
bailout funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton
 
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:58 am
Guest
On Nov 6, 11:57 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies)
posted a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional government
bailout funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton

Yup and now they're demanding yet another bailout from the taxpayers.
$15 B.

As i speak, Fannie is sending out bribes to our congresscriminals.
 
JayPee Vee...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:31 am
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On 6 nov, 20:57, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies)
posted a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional government
bailout funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton

What have you done today in order to get a job?
Nothing, as usual?
Any idea what a parasite you are?
Don't you have any pride?
 
The_Carpathia...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:15 pm
Guest
On Nov 6, 8:05 pm, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:57:41 -0800, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies) posted
a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional government bailout
funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton

Good thing they are there or we would be in a 1930's style depression
instead of a serious recession.

It is high time to makes some adjustments to select _WHICH_ taxpayers get
to do the bailing out.  Seems to me that the lying sacks of shit that
created the mess need to be taxed in order to fix it.  And that would be
the Wall Street weasels and the stockholders they represent, along with a
special tax levied on the people who elected the Republican Congress and
George, lying sack of shit, Bush.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Oct_15/ai_92843805/

 WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 15, 2002

Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined President
Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary
Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and non-profit organizations,
for a housing summit to promote the Administration's proposal to expand
minority homeownership.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

That would be the same Raines that was found guilty of fraud and is an
advisor to President Obama...right?

Kenneth W Clifton
 
Werner...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:42 pm
Guest
On Nov 6, 8:05 pm, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:57:41 -0800, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies) posted
a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional government bailout
funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton

Good thing they are there or we would be in a 1930's style depression
instead of a serious recession.

It is high time to makes some adjustments to select _WHICH_ taxpayers get
to do the bailing out.  Seems to me that the lying sacks of shit that
created the mess need to be taxed in order to fix it.  And that would be
the Wall Street weasels and the stockholders they represent, along with a
special tax levied on the people who elected the Republican Congress and
George, lying sack of shit, Bush.
...


your are much too limiting.
"In 1992, Congress mandated that Fannie and Freddie increase their
purchases 
of mortgages for low-income and medium-income borrowers.
Operating under 
that requirement, Fannie Mae, in particular, has been
aggressive and 
creative in stimulating minority gains."
"The two companies are now required to devote 42% of their portfolios
to 
loans for low- and moderate-income borrowers"
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/31/news/mn-42807
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nU3fNh-PRk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfoToPyae0s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSqhrHIfJV0&NR=1&feature=fvwp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
and


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYz1rbB5V1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALAIEYq5Y00
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjYDzyQNqX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CcFdjXvjvE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6ZHOxJLUGI&NR=1
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575A...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575A...
http://americanfuturefund.com/2008/09/25/barney-frank-blocks-reform-a...
• 1) Securitization for residential mortgages was invented in 1970 by
Ginnie Mae. It was expanded by government sponsored enterprises (e.g.,
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) and private institutions through the 1980s
and '90s to include a wide range of financial assets. 2) Congress has
consistently eliminated regulatory obstacles to securitization with
the Secondary Mortgage Market Enhancement Act (SMMEA), Real Estate
Mortgage Investment Conduits (REMICs), Financial Asset Securitization
Investment Trusts (FASITs), and Riegle Community Development and
Regulatory Improvement Act. 
3) The Riegle Act also instructed federal
regulators to reduce risk-based capital requirements for bank holdings
of small business loan securities.
http://www.nado.org/loansales/securitization1.html

regulation derivatives
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut/370925
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syN3rdpFqaQ&feature=related
Find out moe about the CRA
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv17n4/vmck4-94.pdf
--
 
Michael Coburn...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:05 pm
Guest
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:57:41 -0800, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

Quote:
So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies) posted
a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional government bailout
funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton

Good thing they are there or we would be in a 1930's style depression
instead of a serious recession.

It is high time to makes some adjustments to select _WHICH_ taxpayers get
to do the bailing out. Seems to me that the lying sacks of shit that
created the mess need to be taxed in order to fix it. And that would be
the Wall Street weasels and the stockholders they represent, along with a
special tax levied on the people who elected the Republican Congress and
George, lying sack of shit, Bush.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Oct_15/ai_92843805/

WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 15, 2002

Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined President
Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary
Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and non-profit organizations,
for a housing summit to promote the Administration's proposal to expand
minority homeownership.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.consumer-guides.info/housing/Home_Ownership/ --------

On December 16, 2003, President Bush signed into law the American Dream
Downpayment Act of 2003, which will help approximately 40,000 families a
year with their down payment and closing costs, and further strengthen
America’s housing market. This legislation complements the President’s
aggressive housing agenda announced in 2002 to dismantle the barriers to
homeownership.
---------------------------------------------------------------

http://web.gc.cuny.edu/Eusc/Schwartz08.pdf ------------------

Securitization substituted the “originate to distribute securitiesâ€
model of mortgage lending in lieu of the traditional “originate to hold
mortgages†model. Additional banking innovations, notably the practices
of the derivatives industry made mortgage lending problems worse;
shifting risk that is the basic property of derivatives in directions
that became so complex, neither the designer nor the buyer of these
instruments apparently understood the risks they imposed and implicated
derivative owners in risky contingencies they did not realize they were
assuming. Derivatives as well as mortgage backed securities were
difficult to price, an art that markets haven’t mastered. The
securitization of mortgage loans spread from the mortgage industry to
commercial paper issuance, student loans, credit card receivables, and
other loan categories. The design of mortgage-backed securities
collateralized by a pool of mortgages assumed that the pool would give
the securities value. The pool, however, was an assortment of mortgages
of varying quality. The designers gave no guidance on how to price the
pool. They claimed that rating agencies would determine the price of the
security. But the rating agencies had no formula for this task. They
assigned ratings to complex securities as if they were ordinary corporate
bonds and without examining the individual mortgages in the pool. Ratings
tended to overstate the value of the securities and were fundamentally
arbitrary. Absent securitization, all the various peripheral players in
the credit market debacle including the bond insurers, who unwisely
insured securities linked to subprime mortgages, would not have been
drawn into the subsidiary roles they exploited.
Securities and banking supervisors knew that packaging of mortgage loans
for resale as securities to investors was a threat to both investors and
mortgage borrowers, but remained on the sidelines and made no attempt to
halt the processes as they unfolded and transformed the mortgage market.


--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson
 
The_Carpathia...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:16 am
Guest
On Nov 7, 1:31 am, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:15:26 -0800, The_Carpathia wrote:
On Nov 6, 8:05 pm, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:57:41 -0800, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies)
posted a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional
government bailout funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton

Good thing they are there or we would be in a 1930's style depression
instead of a serious recession.

It is high time to makes some adjustments to select _WHICH_ taxpayers
get to do the bailing out.  Seems to me that the lying sacks of shit
that created the mess need to be taxed in order to fix it.  And that
would be the Wall Street weasels and the stockholders they represent,
along with a special tax levied on the people who elected the
Republican Congress and George, lying sack of shit, Bush.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Oct_15/ai_92843805/

 WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 15, 2002

Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined President
Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
Secretary Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and non-profit
organizations, for a housing summit to promote the Administration's
proposal to expand minority homeownership.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

That would be the same Raines that was found guilty of fraud and is an
advisor to President Obama...right?

Yep.  The very same one.

Republicans pick nits.  That is all they have.  By some estimates 2
billion bucks was misappropriated within Fannie Mae, supposedly due to
Raines.  Now all you have to do is account for the other 10 trillion or
so and we will have the scoop.  Raines was forced out of Fannie Mae in
2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Franklin_Raines#Role_in_the_subprime_mortgage_crisis  --------

Although under Raines, Fannie Mae invested in some securities backed by
subprime loans, it didn't start buying subprime and Alt-A loans directly
(and bundling them into securities) until late 2004 after the accounting
scandal. Purchasing of subprime and alt-A mortgages expanded
exponentially under the guidance of Raines's successor Daniel H. Mudd

--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson

Has their been a CEO of Fannie or Freddie in recent history with a
connection to Republicans? I'm ready to attack that party as quick as
anything, but as far as I know ...there's only a one party connection
to Freddie and Fannie and many current officials in Obama's admin came
from them. Correct me about any Republican links you may have.

Kenneth W Clifton
 
Michael Coburn...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:31 am
Guest
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:15:26 -0800, The_Carpathia wrote:

Quote:
On Nov 6, 8:05 pm, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:57:41 -0800, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies)
posted a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional
government bailout funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton

Good thing they are there or we would be in a 1930's style depression
instead of a serious recession.

It is high time to makes some adjustments to select _WHICH_ taxpayers
get to do the bailing out.  Seems to me that the lying sacks of shit
that created the mess need to be taxed in order to fix it.  And that
would be the Wall Street weasels and the stockholders they represent,
along with a special tax levied on the people who elected the
Republican Congress and George, lying sack of shit, Bush.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Oct_15/ai_92843805/

 WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 15, 2002

Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined President
Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
Secretary Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and non-profit
organizations, for a housing summit to promote the Administration's
proposal to expand minority homeownership.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

That would be the same Raines that was found guilty of fraud and is an
advisor to President Obama...right?

Yep. The very same one.

Republicans pick nits. That is all they have. By some estimates 2
billion bucks was misappropriated within Fannie Mae, supposedly due to
Raines. Now all you have to do is account for the other 10 trillion or
so and we will have the scoop. Raines was forced out of Fannie Mae in
2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Franklin_Raines#Role_in_the_subprime_mortgage_crisis --------

Although under Raines, Fannie Mae invested in some securities backed by
subprime loans, it didn't start buying subprime and Alt-A loans directly
(and bundling them into securities) until late 2004 after the accounting
scandal. Purchasing of subprime and alt-A mortgages expanded
exponentially under the guidance of Raines's successor Daniel H. Mudd

--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson
 
The_Carpathia...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:42 am
Guest
On Nov 7, 1:36 pm, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:

Quote:
You asked for a link between Fannie Mae and Republicans and I have
undeniably established that link.  Whether Franklin Raines was a crook or
not has nothing to do with the housing bubble. The bubble was created,
nurtured, assisted and blown by the Republicans all the way.

I'm still waiting for the Fannie or Freddie CEO with a link to the
GOP. Raines came from the Clinton administration's Treasury
department.

Kenneth W Clifton
 
Michael Coburn...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:36 pm
Guest
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 03:16:16 -0800, The_Carpathia wrote:

Quote:
On Nov 7, 1:31 am, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:15:26 -0800, The_Carpathia wrote:
On Nov 6, 8:05 pm, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:57:41 -0800, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies)
posted a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional
government bailout funds...

http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105

Kenneth W Clifton

Good thing they are there or we would be in a 1930's style
depression instead of a serious recession.

It is high time to makes some adjustments to select _WHICH_
taxpayers get to do the bailing out.  Seems to me that the lying
sacks of shit that created the mess need to be taxed in order to fix
it.  And that would be the Wall Street weasels and the stockholders
they represent, along with a special tax levied on the people who
elected the Republican Congress and George, lying sack of shit,
Bush.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Oct_15/
ai_92843805/

 WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 15, 2002

Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined
President Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development
(HUD) Secretary Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and
non-profit organizations, for a housing summit to promote the
Administration's proposal to expand minority homeownership.
-------------------------------------------------------------------

That would be the same Raines that was found guilty of fraud and is
an advisor to President Obama...right?

Yep.  The very same one.

Republicans pick nits.  That is all they have.  By some estimates 2
billion bucks was misappropriated within Fannie Mae, supposedly due to
Raines.  Now all you have to do is account for the other 10 trillion or
so and we will have the scoop.  Raines was forced out of Fannie Mae in
2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Franklin_Raines#Role_in_the_subprime_mortgage_crisis  --------

Although under Raines, Fannie Mae invested in some securities backed by
subprime loans, it didn't start buying subprime and Alt-A loans
directly (and bundling them into securities) until late 2004 after the
accounting scandal. Purchasing of subprime and alt-A mortgages expanded
exponentially under the guidance of Raines's successor Daniel H. Mudd

--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson

Has their been a CEO of Fannie or Freddie in recent history with a
connection to Republicans? I'm ready to attack that party as quick as
anything, but as far as I know ...there's only a one party connection to
Freddie and Fannie and many current officials in Obama's admin came from
them. Correct me about any Republican links you may have.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Oct_15/ai_92843805/

Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined President
Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary
Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and non-profit organizations,
for a housing summit to promote the Administration's proposal to expand
minority homeownership.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Franklin_Raines#Role_in_the_subprime_mortgage_crisis ------------

Although under Raines, Fannie Mae invested in some securities backed by
subprime loans, it didn't start buying subprime and Alt-A loans directly
(and bundling them into securities) until late 2004 after the accounting
scandal. Purchasing of subprime and alt-A mortgages expanded
exponentially under the guidance of Raines's successor Daniel H. Mudd

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212948811465427.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

If they were not making mortgages cheaper and were creating risks for the
taxpayers and the economy, what value were they providing? The answer was
their affordable-housing mission. So it was that, beginning in 2004,
their portfolios of subprime and Alt-A loans and securities began to
grow. Subprime and Alt-A originations in the U.S. rose from less than 8%
of all mortgages in 2003 to over 20% in 2006. During this period the
quality of subprime loans also declined, going from fixed rate, long-term
amortizing loans to loans with low down payments and low (but adjustable)
initial rates, indicating that originators were scraping the bottom of
the barrel to find product for buyers like the GSEs

----------------------------------------------------------------


So, Kenny (you misinformed or lying sack of pig crap), tell us please who
was in completed control of government in 2001 through the bursting of
the Housing bubble in 2006.

You asked for a link between Fannie Mae and Republicans and I have
undeniably established that link. Whether Franklin Raines was a crook or
not has nothing to do with the housing bubble. The bubble was created,
nurtured, assisted and blown by the Republicans all the way.

Suck on it.

--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson
 
Beam Me Up Scotty...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:34 pm
Guest
The_Carpathia wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 7, 1:31 am, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:15:26 -0800, The_Carpathia wrote:
On Nov 6, 8:05 pm, Michael Coburn <mik... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:57:41 -0800, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
So, last quarter, Fannie Mae (one of two govt housing companies)
posted a 19 Billion dollar loss and is requiring additional
government bailout funds...
http://www.reuters.com/article/ousivMolt/idUSTRE5A464620091105
Kenneth W Clifton
Good thing they are there or we would be in a 1930's style depression
instead of a serious recession.
It is high time to makes some adjustments to select _WHICH_ taxpayers
get to do the bailing out. Seems to me that the lying sacks of shit
that created the mess need to be taxed in order to fix it. And that
would be the Wall Street weasels and the stockholders they represent,
along with a special tax levied on the people who elected the
Republican Congress and George, lying sack of shit, Bush.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2002_Oct_15/ai_92843805/
WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 15, 2002
Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined President
Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)
Secretary Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and non-profit
organizations, for a housing summit to promote the Administration's
proposal to expand minority homeownership.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
That would be the same Raines that was found guilty of fraud and is an
advisor to President Obama...right?
Yep. The very same one.

Republicans pick nits. That is all they have. By some estimates 2
billion bucks was misappropriated within Fannie Mae, supposedly due to
Raines. Now all you have to do is account for the other 10 trillion or
so and we will have the scoop. Raines was forced out of Fannie Mae in
2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Franklin_Raines#Role_in_the_subprime_mortgage_crisis --------

Although under Raines, Fannie Mae invested in some securities backed by
subprime loans, it didn't start buying subprime and Alt-A loans directly
(and bundling them into securities) until late 2004 after the accounting
scandal. Purchasing of subprime and alt-A mortgages expanded
exponentially under the guidance of Raines's successor Daniel H. Mudd

--
"Those are my opinions and you can't have em" -- Bart Simpson

Has their been a CEO of Fannie or Freddie in recent history with a
connection to Republicans? I'm ready to attack that party as quick as
anything, but as far as I know ...there's only a one party connection
to Freddie and Fannie and many current officials in Obama's admin came
from them. Correct me about any Republican links you may have.


Rahm Emanuel worked at Fannie Mae before he worked for Obama,
HHhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmm ? I wonder????????????

Democrat toy chest?
 
 
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