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| jos boersema... |
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A quick way to form voter groups
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For some reason I've forgotten the problem that people
(we) may not be able to form voter-groups out of our
own initiative (easily). Kind of a big problem during
revolution ... People these days do not even know their
own neighbors, at least not here, much less people in
the street.
It seems to be a bit of an issue how to do it: streets
have varying names in all neighborhoods with varying
length and they criss/cross each other randomly.
An obvious initial idea is: simply group houses per
50, since most have 1 or more adults, you get voter
groups of 50 or more adults, so that is in an emergency
not that bad. At least it would be a legal number.
Since Governments are bound to territory, it makes most
sense to use living quarters of people.
What about this rule:
- Divide the street from beginning to end in blocks of 50 homes,
and after all streets have thus been divided the remainders
of the streets are locally combined to also form groups of
50.
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- Take the city/place map and find its streets-name register.
- Starting from the top and the house number 1, the first 50 homes
will comprise the first voter group (most likely numbers 1,
2, 3, 4, ... 48, 49, 50). The next 50 homes comprise the second,
(51, 52, 53,... 98, 99, 100) until you are left with a remainder
of homes.
- Then the second street, which may be somewhere else entirely,
some method: first 50 homes is that (emergency) voter group.
- Eventually once you pass through the whole city this way almost
all streets end up with a remainder of homes. Then you are going
to try by hand and map to look at these remainders and form
again groups of 50 homes out of them that are closest by. In
some cases you may again end up with remainders but then you
can add a few more homes to a few voter groups that is no problem.
Many voter groups could also give up homes if you check whether
they already have enough for a voter group of minimum 50 adults.
The benefit of this rule is that everyone who does not live in the
"remainder" of a street, now already knows with whom they are in
an "emergency" voter group. Take some street on the other side of
the world, first 50 homes is an emergency voter group. The people
who are in the remainder can also come together knowing they are
a remainder, knowing nearby streets are also the remainder, so
that is almost done also. They can come together and say "hi hi,
we are supposed to be in an 'emergency voter group configuration,'
how about it ?
Then the people can proceed to fine tune their emergency voter
groups. For example some may have more then 100 persons, that is
easily divided into 2 groups. Others may find they have some
70 while nearby groups also have 70, they can all decide to
give away some people who form a new voter group. Voter groups
ideally are a little more then 50 persons, to prevent one person
leaving immediately leading to a voter group collapse. If it is
tight, all 50 or close, it becomes harder to correct deficiency
in some group, no room to play with memberships in the area.
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If streets have no names, I suppose you could try to use
streaks of lane/street, something like that.
If streets have no house numbers you could start counting
from one side. To coin a starting point: from north to south ?
If exactly east/west, from west to east ?
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Even if there is total freedom of people to group in voter
groups how they like, it is often much more efficient to just
start from "some" way and then /adapt/ that given distribution.
People can swap around, "i want with them," and so on; that's
easier then out of nowhere do it right.
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Text of a pamphlet that can be passed into people's homes to inform
them of the model, what they can do and what their rights are.
Another such pamphlet is here: http://www.socialism.nl/~joshb/sheet2.txt
Maybe this one is better, written from the perspective of unsuspecting
people, also explaining the essential details as a way of informing them
and convincing them (ASCII is the most simple form of digital communication,
if you want to make it look nicer cut/paste into some editor).
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Dividing into groups:
- Divide per 50 group houses in each street starting to count from
house number 1. Usually: 1,2,3,...48,49,50. Then 51,52,53...99,100.
Etc.
- The remainder in a street that does not have at least 50 adults in
its group is to find another such group nearby to establish at least
50 persons. If none can be found they can ask for other groups who
have more then 50 to join them until they also have at least 50
persons. If this is impossible or if there is only a few in the
remainder, they can ask to join other groups nearby.
- If a group has more then 104 adults who want to join in this effort,
that group can split in 2 groups each at least 50 persons. For
example the part with the lowest house numbers and the part with the
highest.
- Eventually all groups should at least have 50 persons, groups with
fewer then 50 persons do not count as groups. Either they find enough
people or they may want to disperse into the other groups. It is not
important that groups have exactly 50 persons, a little bit more is
better because if someone leaves you don't immediately lose your
right as being an official voter group. Anywhere from 50 to 60 or even
70 (a bit large though) is fine, it is your choice. No matter its
size, each group has only the right to send in one representative.
Choosing a representative:
- Choose someone who will be responsible for voting inside the group,
and to maintain a list of who is in that group. That person is the
administrator of that group, or its housekeeper, it's servant. It has
no power whatsoever.
- Then elect a representative. The representative has no power whatsoever,
it only has a right to participate in a council once properly elected.
The power stays with the voter group, the representative is the servant
of the voter group, not its leader, there is no leader of the voter group.
The voter group leads itself through its own majorities and who wants
to join that group and is allowed to join it by those already in it.
Rights:
- You don't have to participate with anything. You don't have to be part
of any voter group, you don't have to attend any meetings of your voter
group if you want to be part of one, you can quit any and all voter
groups at any time for unstated reasons.
- You can choose of what voter groups you don't want to be a part.
- There is no rule that says a voter group must consist of people in the
same area, you can form a voter group from all across the nation if you
want to.
- The voter group can elect another voter group administrator/housekeeper
any moment.
- The voter group can elect another representative any moment.
- You can only be part of one group. If you try to be part of multiple
groups you are guilty of voting fraud and this may not go unpunished.
- Voter groups are only an election model, the voter groups do not comprise
production groups or socializing groups or fighting units of whatever else.
Voter groups exercise political power in their own interest by
influencing their representative. Note that the common interest is part
of that interest.
- Every 5 years there is elections of delegates, all across the nation
at the same time.
- A delegate must do what it has promised, or the Court can replace it.
- The proceedings of Government are public.
- The Government is obligated to follow the will of the people.
- A block can elect anyone as their representative, the delegate does not
have to be part of that voter block or live in the area.
Referendum:
- By gathering 10% of signatures for a Referendum, the Referendum must be
held. The non-votes in a referendum are given to the concerning council(s),
where each delegate will get an equal share. The combined tally of the
votes and taken over non-votes yields a binding decision. This decision
can only be broken by another referendum having more votes, but the
number of votes that is counted for a previous referendum is slowly
lowered when time passes so that a Referendum that happened about 70
years ago will have no greater power then a regular Government delegates
decision. Also a two third amount of votes will break any previous
referendum on the same issue. This system dynamically combines referendum
power with representative power, where non-voters apparently choose to
leave the issue to the representative system, who will then indeed
actually vote those votes. The deterioration of the power of a previous
Referendum means the future is not decided by the (distant) past, and
eventually the power slowly comes back to the representatives.
Delegates:
- Delegates are to meet up with at least 50 to form a local council,
the local council rules by its own majority on local issues. The
local council is not sovereign, sovereignty lies at the national
council, the supreme law court, etc. The local council does not own
the homes of the people in its area, it does not issue its own
money, it does not form its own army, it does not own the businesses
in the area, and it may not have power over government activities
and organizations that are doing work for a larger area.
- The elected delegates have a right to group in groups of 50 in
larger or smaller areas, these 50 sections of delegates can all
elect one representative, it must be someone from within that
section. They can not elect someone outside that section. This
way a council can be formed over larger areas, while within that
area the smaller councils still persist. The area size difference
between both councils dictate their respective responsibilities.
This way local councils could be involved in highly local issues
in a neighborhood. Over the whole city such a city wide council
deals with city wide issues, leaving the highly local issues to the
local councils. The entire nation is divided into 50 sections of
equal numbers of delegates to elect the national council, handling
national issues such an the currency, the Constitution, foreign
policy, differences between other councils, and so on.
- Because the nation is now divided into 50 section for the national
council, it makes sense to elect in each 50th sector a larger area
council as well, taking opportunity of the effort to elect the
national council.
- Once a delegate has been elected by its voter group, and then
was elected by a section of other delegate to represent them also,
that delegate can not once more elect someone to represent him/her.
There are two steps and no more. A third step is against the law,
the police will have to step in and the court will have to dismiss
such a practice if it occurs, following the rules of the constitution.
Operation of councils (obligations):
- Councils are to select a name.
- Councils are to publish one week ahead what they will be discussing.
- If they are going to discuss making/changing a law, it has to be
announced 2 month prior instead of just 1 week.
- Emergency issues can be handled immediately.
- Councils are to elect a chair person, who will lose its voting right
in any debate he/she is chairing.
- Delegates are payed an about average salary for their work per hour,
with certain bonuses if they work full time / much.
- Councils are free to make up their own internal operations if the
national council does not regulate it, but here some suggestions that
may help:
Operation of councils (not obligated):
+ Divide a council into groups of 10 persons or a little more.
+ Each grouplet will debate with itself proposals that come to its
attention.
+ Once a grouplet has made up a proposal that is satisfying to it,
the grouplet approaches another grouplet of its own choice.
+ That other grouplet can accept, amend or reject the proposal.
+ On rejection or amendment the proposal comes back on the desk of
the first grouplet, who will then reconsider it with the remarks
of the other grouplet.
+ Then the same procedure: the grouplet proposes its work to another
grouplet of its choice.
+ Finally a proposal might make it past all grouplets and there seems
to be at least a numerical majority for it.
+ The council convenes a meeting of all grouplets.
+ Each grouplet can elect a spokesperson, someone who can reasonably
talk well in public and can represent that grouplet and the people
in it if needed.
+ The chair person arrives at the proposal, then a debate may occur.
+ After the debate the proposal may come to a vote or it may go back
for re-consideration.
+ If it is voted upon and it wins a majority, then it is an official
decision and it is to be carried out (if that council has the powers
needed to make that decision at least, which are limited by the
Constitution, the law and the power of other councils.)
- The delegates have no right whatsoever to force a made council
decision on anyone, also not on the voter group it is representing.
When there is a problem with the actual execution of a decision,
forcing it through is a matter for the Courts of Justice and ultimately
the police.
- The people always retain the right to change any and all previously
made Government decisions, either through referendum or by selecting
different representatives, or by convincing the delegates to make
a different decision.
National council:
- The national council is the top Government, it makes both laws and
decisions.
- The chair person of the national council is not the head of state.
Electoral Committee and head of state:
- Across the entire nations, all adult people can partake in the
election for the Electoral Committee. This should yield a list
of names who have more or fewer votes.
- The persons not having made it into the 10 persons with most votes
can choose to give their votes to someone who did make it into the
top 10 (this can matter, see later).
- The person with most votes then has the right to take those votes
he/she has more then the person with second most votes, and give
these votes to whomever he/she wants in the entire nation.
- This yields a new list of 10 persons who have most votes, these
10 persons are the Electoral Committee. It is this committee that
has the sovereign task to set election dates, by its own majority.
- The oldest of these 10 is the Head of State.
- This Head of State has no power over Government, makes no laws,
no decisions.
- Once the Head of State has deeply familiarized itself with the
Constitution, process that takes about 9 months, the Head of State
becomes an inspection agency primarily aimed at corruption within
the Government through its right of immediate and full disclosure
of all Government information. This right does not extend into
private homes.
- The electoral committee must always have at least 6 members, and it
must at least achieve having 10 members every 30 years (meaning
once one member steps down, there will be Electoral Committee (EC)
elections after 30 years, unless 5 in total step down in which case
there would be immediate EC elections.)
- The Head of State can take over the Government for one year if the
delegates are in chaos, after that year of dictatorial King rule
there is one month of regular government rule and then a new election
for the EC and therefore head of state.
- The head of state is richly compensated for its services (if any),
but the other 9 members of the EC are prohibited from working for the
Government (they must have private sector jobs, to make sure they
have a more distant and objective position toward the Government and
the head of state).
- The Constitution provides in two modes for the nation: either with
this active role for the Head of State, or with that role becoming
dormant (meaning the Head of State has no special powers beyond the
regular EC membership.) Either mode for the nation is to be decided on
by a special Referendum.
- The EC and therefore head of state function is not hereditary, elections
are open to all.
Constitution:
- The constitution can be altered through a national Referendum, following
mentioned procedure for Referendums, but a constitution changing
referendum must be announced 5 years before it is to be held.
Comparison neo-roman model:
- The rest of the Government model is more or less what we are already
used to in many parts of the world: a government, a police force,
a judiciary. Here taken to make up the separation of powers between:
action (police), decisions on justice (judges), law making and decision
making (councils), inspection (electoral committee and head of state
in its role of sovereign inspector), control (referendum power and
power to replace delegates any moment).
- There is no separation within the representative government as exists
in the neo-roman model between a select ruling few often about 10 in
number (often called ministers), a larger body to which those ministers
owe responsibility and that can ask for new elections (often called
parliament), and what is often seen is a second chamber which looks
at law making and can reject a proposal for new law. In the neo-Roman
model, these 3 parts of neo-Roman government are all formed from
people associated with one of the parties (fractions), so that each
fraction gaining enough votes will have its people in all these three
parts. One could say that these 3 parts of government are more or less
a fake separation, because they are all made from the same clubs that
gained the votes. In this new model proposed here, the role of
'ministers' would be that of either servants or sub-council below
the national council being given a specific management task in a
certain area (for example to print and maintain the currency.)
The role of law proposing, reviewing and passing all fall unto the
council, but they need to honor the 2 month time restraint which is
to make sure there is ample of opportunity to think the laws through.
Essentially a law is a repeating decision, as such closely related
to singular decisions. The suggested way in which councils could
operate, the grouplets model, also provides the mechanism of
proposal, review, sending back, amending, another review, and so
on, which is a task the second chamber of Government in the neo-Roman
model engages in (often). But in this case it happens within the
council, and it happens at least 5 times instead of at least 1.
+ It is not an obligation but a proposal: have the national Government
travel around in the nation all the time, convening one week here,
then one week somewhere else, so that it never puts down any roots
in one particular city. This to prevent the national Government to
see itself as a conquering force from that city busy with the task
of hauling riches from the rest of the nation to that city.
- Government departments are to be located throughout the nation, this
is a Constitutional obligation. It is good for transparency and
protocol, it spreads the benefit of spending taxation money and
Government associated jobs across the nation, it decentralizes power.
+ Most notable changes: the national government would be much smaller in
total size: only 50 persons (the Dutch Government comprises a
"government" of ministers maybe some 10 persons, a 2nd chamber of
150 persons and a 1st chamber of 75 persons, total 285 persons). The
elected persons do not necessarily represent fractions or parties
(although that is also still possible), and therefore it is likely
the debate would be less between entrenched fractions or party
political games for power, it is more individualized. Because the
delegates vote for the national Government and not the people
directly, it is both easier and cheaper to re-elect the national
government, and the campaign people may want to engage in is
directed at delegates (mostly). The delegates in turn are expected
to do their duty and commit to a more thorough investigation into
the competence of their candidates (for whose election they of
course will be politically responsibly, and answering for to their
voting groups). If the Government is constantly and routinely on
the move in the nation, that will be a very obviously different
happening as well. In other words: no more parties, or at least
if they exist (they are invited to) they are not the backbone of
the system.
- The national council selects advice councils for varies issues,
by its own discretion and majority, who have no power beyond
(publicly stated) advice. This is a measure important for stability
and competence. It may be that much informal power resides in these
advice councils, while the national council weighs and selects
proposals from all sides in accordance with the popular will.
Nation:
- Nations are not to be too large, an ideal size would be in the order
of 10 to 30 million people. The Constitution states an upper boundary
of 100 million people.
- People who want to set up a new nation from part of the present
nation can do so by following the (extensive) Referendum protocols.
They must have 1,000,000 people in favor or more, and win several
Referendums in that area. After becoming independent they have a
time where they can grow into the present nation by winning more
referendums. This entire procedure takes many years. There must be
two third referendum majorities 5 years apart to become sovereign
after another 5 years following the second referendum. In these
referendums the non-votes count as against-votes. There must also
not be a referendum once with a majority to stay in the country
during that time with at least half of all people voting in it.
This means that if people really want out in large majority, they
can, but not until it is quite well established they actually want
to break away. The resources are equally divided between both nations.
More:
- These things are all worked out in much detail, the above is merely
a very short summary of some of its aspects, not touching even on
the most important issue of all: the economy. The above only handled
the restructuring of the Government. The economic qusetion is handled
in 4 sectors: money and investment (common good), company ownership
(free market and labor self rule), land and other natural resources
(limited use right distributed to all individuals), infrastructure
and other non-competive sectors (common good).
For all materials (all free), see http://www.socialism.nl (free
trade in labor, services and products, free dictatorial ownership
over entrepreneurial companies until the starter leaves and company
has 10 or more full time employees.)
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(Also posted to talk.culture.native, because the only ones understanding
much about things like state organization seems to be the NDNs. This model
is not meant to replace your governing systems. I hope the white people
will want to do this model and remove the old model. Maybe if an NDN
traditional council or tribal elders or clan mothers say that it may be
good for the white people, that some of them might care to notice and
considder it. I can't reach these white people.) |
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| jos boersema... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:21 am |
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A bit more, inserted at the top:
On 2009-11-02, jos boersema <joshb at (no spam) xs4all.nl> wrote:
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A new form of Government:
A new form of Government can be established, where people group in
small groups selecting a representative. These representatives combine
to form councils. Below is how this is to be achieved in actuality.
See also http://www.socialism.nl/~joshb/sheet2.txt for additional
ideas ...
Dividing into groups:
- The women will take the lead.
- The women will go to the houses if the people are inside.
- The men will stand on one side and the women on the other, two
groups. The men will attempt to remain calm.
- The women will attempt to set up these voter groups properly.
They will make proposals to the men, ask assistance of the
men for certain tasks. The men will then reject or accept the
proposals of the women and give the women their arguments. The
women will then discuss that and see how to proceed.
- If there is disagreement between the women then the oldest five
women will form a committee of order and they are responsible for
letting things go calmly and properly, whatever is decided.
+ In case these things happen with actual groups standing outside,
it may be nice at some point if there is some drinks for everyone.
Because when groups are outside either something good, or something
bad may happen, but when everyone has something to drink how can
something bad happen - then something good will happen. Everyone
will calm down a bit, hopefully. Sharing a drink means friendship
between all people. As a practical issue: bring your own cup out
of your home ? In all the happenings it won't be nice if someone
loses its cups by accident, or if people need to concern themselves
with such logistics also on top of what might have to be done.
- The men can constantly say yes or no, and give their arguments, and
the women can constantly make new proposals. If there is no solution
then the women can propose to go on another day, and go home.
- If the men are unruly, the younger men must listen to the much older
men as if they where their fathers and as if they where small children.
- It is best to take enough time for everything and not to rush,
because in the rush someone may feel oppressed and jump up, and that
may cause others to jump up, and then because of the rushing everything
may break down. When in doubt, stay calm and do nothing, or talk
to the person next to you and don't scream and shout and whatever.
- Some individual men should not think they should go and stand with
the women because they think they can, they must all leave the women
to do their thing. For a male to go stand there is to attempt to
gain power and that is exactly the big problem with the men, more
then with the women. By trying to stand with the women that man is
rather proving he is exactly that kind of problem ! Just stand and
wait on the women, remain calm. When the men are calm, they can be
very smart and useful in the whole process, the women can use that.
- This would all take place per block of homes roughly, so the women
and men of these blocks will form groups of what are going to be
the voter groups once the people are properly divided. That dividing
and making up the groups is the role the women have. Once the groups
are formed then they rule by their mixed majority of men and women.
It is quite a simple task, but it can mean chaos/failure if it isn't
being accomplished properly. The women should not feel rushed to
accomplish it, they can take hours or days or even weeks to get it
together: what they want.
- Divide per 50 group houses in each street starting to count from
house number 1. Usually: 1,2,3,...48,49,50. Then 51,52,53...99,100.
Etc.
- The remainder in a street that does not have at least 50 adults in
Quote: - Divide per 50 group houses in each street starting to count from
house number 1. Usually: 1,2,3,...48,49,50. Then 51,52,53...99,100.
Etc.
- The remainder in a street that does not have at least 50 adults in
its group is to find another such group nearby to establish at least
50 persons. If none can be found they can ask for other groups who
have more then 50 to join them until they also have at least 50
persons. If this is impossible or if there is only a few in the
remainder, they can ask to join other groups nearby.
- If a group has more then 104 adults who want to join in this effort,
that group can split in 2 groups each at least 50 persons. For
example the part with the lowest house numbers and the part with the
highest.
- Eventually all groups should at least have 50 persons, groups with
fewer then 50 persons do not count as groups. Either they find enough
people or they may want to disperse into the other groups. It is not
important that groups have exactly 50 persons, a little bit more is
better because if someone leaves you don't immediately lose your
right as being an official voter group. Anywhere from 50 to 60 or even
70 (a bit large though) is fine, it is your choice. No matter its
size, each group has only the right to send in one representative.
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| jos boersema... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:23 am |
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On 2009-11-04, jos boersema <joshb at (no spam) xs4all.nl> wrote:
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Quote: For all materials (all free), see http://www.socialism.nl (free
trade in labor, services and products, free dictatorial ownership
over entrepreneurial companies until the starter leaves and company
has 10 or more full time employees.)
A bit more, at the end:
Transition to new Government:
- The police and courts should remain in operation and enforce the
laws. Presumably there are no laws that forbid people to combine
and organize, but if they do exist they are to be broken. The police
and courts could refer to natural law, respect for the people, or
being overwhelmed.
- The police and the courts should remain in operation. The laws are
not suspended at any time, the new Government will take over most
laws without any moment of there being no laws. All laws remain
standing unless the councils actively change them in due course of
their protocol.
- If the new Government fails then the old Government continues as
if nothing has happened.
- If the new Government succeeds there will be two Governments. It
would not be the first time in history that has happened.
- That Government which organizes most people should be the ruling
Government in case of conflicts. Ideally that type of Government
that is not favored by the majority melts away and merges with
the newly formed Government. Both politically, organizationally,
and infrastructurally.
- It may be that for quite some time there are two Governments, or
that there is disagreement about what Government represents the
majority. This disagreement may not be taken away in case of a
Referendum with a close result, or if there was some kind of
manipulation happening (likely to be claimed anyway).
- If the new Government is not the commonly accepted ruling Government
by clearly a large majority, they should probably do best to take on
a cooperative and service oriented stance with respect to the other
Government, without sacrificing their independence and the potential
sovereignty inherent in the organization once completed. If the
other Government takes a hostile stance, this may cost them their
remaining credibility, it would be a matter of time until they melt
away. Over time the new Government is likely to get its things in
order and work smoothly, this should mean gaining credibility and
therefore power. Playing nice and for the long term is therefore
probably best, while attempting to behave like a true Government
should, which can also be taken as practicing the new system. Power
could come dancing into the quarters of the new Government because it
wants to.
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| jos boersema... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:46 am |
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On 2009-11-04, jos boersema <joshb at (no spam) xs4all.nl> wrote:
Quote: On 2009-11-04, jos boersema <joshb at (no spam) xs4all.nl> wrote:
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For all materials (all free), see http://www.socialism.nl (free
trade in labor, services and products, free dictatorial ownership
over entrepreneurial companies until the starter leaves and company
has 10 or more full time employees.)
A bit more, at the end:
Transition to new Government:
- The police and courts should remain in operation and enforce the
laws. Presumably there are no laws that forbid people to combine
and organize, but if they do exist they are to be broken. The police
and courts could refer to natural law, respect for the people, or
being overwhelmed.
- The police and the courts should remain in operation. The laws are
not suspended at any time, the new Government will take over most
laws without any moment of there being no laws. All laws remain
standing unless the councils actively change them in due course of
their protocol.
- The new Government does not attempt to take over the buildings of
the old Government, but either is not located in any particular
building or if it wants to attempts to find another location. If
the old Government wishes to vacate its buildings out of its free
will, then these could become part of the governed public buildings
under the new Government system.
Quote: - If the new Government fails then the old Government continues as
if nothing has happened.
- If the new Government succeeds there will be two Governments. It
would not be the first time in history that has happened.
- That Government which organizes most people should be the ruling
Government in case of conflicts. Ideally that type of Government
that is not favored by the majority melts away and merges with
the newly formed Government. Both politically, organizationally,
and infrastructurally.
- It may be that for quite some time there are two Governments, or
that there is disagreement about what Government represents the
majority. This disagreement may not be taken away in case of a
Referendum with a close result, or if there was some kind of
manipulation happening (likely to be claimed anyway).
- If the new Government is not the commonly accepted ruling Government
by clearly a large majority, they should probably do best to take on
a cooperative and service oriented stance with respect to the other
Government, without sacrificing their independence and the potential
sovereignty inherent in the organization once completed.
It is best
not to attempt to steer the councils into conflict with a persisting
old Government. Both Governments may view each other as their own
advice council.
Quote: If the
other Government takes a hostile stance, this may cost them their
remaining credibility, it would be a matter of time until they melt
away. Over time the new Government is likely to get its things in
order and work smoothly, this should mean gaining credibility and
therefore power. Playing nice and for the long term is therefore
probably best, while attempting to behave like a true Government
should, which can also be taken as practicing the new system. Power
could come dancing into the quarters of the new Government because it
wants to.
- The old Government shouldn't be completely dissolved until it is
absolutely clear the new Government is up to the task at hand.
It should be possible to quickly reinstall the old system with its
people, even in a few hours, as if nothing had happened, just in
case.
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