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| Leroy N. Soetoro... |
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RUSH: Let's go to NY-23. This is an interesting piece here, Chris
Cillizza, Washington Post blog, The Fix: "What NY-23 Means." I love it
when the State-Controlled Media starts examining a political race that
has a dominant conservative in it. "Two things have become abundantly
clear about the special election in New York's 23rd district over the
past week," writes Chris Cillizza. "The first is that Conservative
Party candidate Doug Hoffman could win," damn it! "The second is that
neither major party knows what to think about the Hoffman candidacy."
(laughing) Neither major party knows what to think about the Hoffman
candidacy. Neither major party knows what to think about ascendant
conservatism!
Both political parties "are trying to adjust their spin to accommodate
what a victory by the Conservative Party candidate would say about the
national political field. An independent poll released on Thursday
showed Hoffman in a statistical dead heat with Democrat Bill Owens with
state Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava (R) lagging badly. That survey,
which was conducted for the liberal Daily Kos site by Research 2000 --"
Fringe leftists doing the poll, "-- jibes with other private polls done
recently and a general sense among Democrats and Republicans that
Hoffman is the momentum candidate and the race is his to lose in the
final days. At the root of Hoffman's strength, according to the Kos
poll, are independents." I've been mentioning this all week, the number
of independents in Gallup and in Pew which are moving to Republicans
from independents, and they're doing so fleeing what? Liberalism.
"The bloc of voters most coveted by both major parties heading into the
November midterms. While Hoffman is in a dead heat with Owens among all
voters, he carries a wide 47 percent to 28 percent edge over the
Democrat among self-identified independent voters. Among those same
independents, Hoffman has a 53 percent favorable rating and a 14 percent
unfavorable rating, far better than the 38 percent fav/23 percent unfav
number he had with the electorate as a whole in the poll. How has
Hoffman galvanized independents? His messaging has been focused almost
entirely on the idea of him as a political outsider who wants to shake
up the way things are being done in Washington. And, it's clearly
working."
Now, you gotta go back to the third sentence. The second is that
neither major party knows what to think about the Hoffman candidacy, and
obviously neither does the media. See, these people in Washington are
obsessed with the so-called centrists, the independents, the moderates.
And they appear to be breaking for Hoffman. Who are these people?
They're conservatives who have been wandering aimlessly. They've been
leaving the Republican Party because the Republican Party has abandoned
them. I'd lay you dollars to doughnuts that ideologically most of these
so-called independents are conservatives. So, yeah, Hoffman may be
getting away and succeeding by portraying himself as a Washington
outsider but he is a conservative, he is a Reagan conservative.
So writes Cillizza: "So, while Republicans will cast a Hoffman win as a
victory for them (it shows an energized GOP base) and Democrats will
tout it as victory for their side (it shows a deeply divided Republican
party)." See, the Beltway spin is that no matter who wins this both
parties are going to spin it as a victory. If Hoffman wins, it's a
victory for the Republicans because it shows an energized GOP base. The
Democrats will tout Hoffman's victory as a victory for their side
because it shows a deeply divided Republican Party. "The truth is that
a Hoffman win should send shivers up the spine of anyone who carries
'Representative,' 'Senator' or 'Governor' before their name." That's
Cillizza. "Hoffman's rise is a manifestation of a series of recent poll
numbers that show Americans growing increasingly frustrated with and
distrustful of the federal government. ... The strong anti-incumbent
sentiment may well hurt Democrats more in 2010 simply because they hold
more seats in the House and the Senate. But, a Hoffman win is rightly
understood not as a rejection of either party but rather a rejection of
the political system as a whole."
No, Chris, it's not that. It means we want conservatism and that the
GOP does not give us that so we need to get control of the GOP. That's
what this means, if this eventuates. Let's go to the audio sound bites.
WSYR TV-9 Eyeball News in Syracuse. The candidates for the 23rd
District debated. The moderator Dan Cummings says to Doug Hoffman, "Why
are you in this race?"
HOFFMAN: I'm in this race because it's principle over party. I'm in
this race because I'm giving the voters of the 23rd District an option
between two liberal candidates and a conservative, Ronald Reagan
Republican, common sense conservative. And basically if I wasn't in
this race, the voters would not have much of a choice.
RUSH: Exactly right. So, the Drive-Bys want to portray this guy as an
outsider. He portrays himself as a Ronaldus Magnus conservative. Up
next is Bill Owens. He's the Democrat in the race.
OWENS: I'm going to do things in the best interests of this district
and I'm going to do things which are going to help to create jobs, to
help to solve the farm crisis, I'm going to work towards maintaining and
strengthening Fort Drum, and I want to move health care forward because
I think that's in the best interests of the majority of the people of
this district.
RUSH: Now, here's the second Democrat in the race, disguised as a
Republican, Dede Scozzafava. She's obsessed with special interest money
that's been donated to Doug Hoffman.
SCOZZAFAVA: When it all comes down to it, the most important people in
this race are the voters. And I think in the end, they won't be misled
by all the money that's coming in, special interest money from outside
of the area, and they'll make a decision based on who knows the issues
best and who can best represent them in Washington.
RUSH: Scozzafava's trailing there. She's down in the high teens or low
twenties, but special interest money from outside the area. Hoffman
didn't have any money up until two weeks ago. The special interest
money, folks, is you! Those of you in this audience who have been
sending money to Doug Hoffman, the Republican candidate has just charged
you with being special interest money because she thinks that the voters
will have a negative reaction to the phrase special interests, they'll
think Big Pharma, Big Oil, Big Lobbyists, what have you.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: The stimulus, as I said, has reared its ugly head in NY-23.
Something like 200 jobs saved or created despite a hundred million
dollars being poured into district. And there's this story from the
Times Union in Albany: "'Will Every Vote Count?' -- New voting machines
in 23rd House race not fully certified in pilot program." (gasping)
"What do Minnesota and New York's 23rd Congressional District have in
common, aside from their proximity to Canada and hard winters? Two
additional correct answers: Hotly contested elections, and voters
choosing their candidates with paper ballots scanned through optical
counting machines. ... But Tuesday's vote will also mark one of the
first large-scale uses of the state's new digital devices, part of the
long-awaited move from decades-old mechanical lever voting technology."
(gasping). Headline: "Will Every Vote Count?"
I am telling you they're already setting up the accusations of cheating
and fraud if Hoffman wins. That's what this is about. And maybe, in
addition to that, they're setting up the fraud and deceit, the cheating,
so that what's-his-face, Owens will win outright. But the voting
machines (gasping) okay, let's write a story and let's get the news out
there, let's tell the voters in NY-23 (gasping) the election (gasping)
next Tuesday (gasping) is not (gasping) going to be fair (gasping)
because the machines are flawed. Let's start a panic about that right
now. That's what they're doing.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I want to go back to NY-23 for just a second and that comment that
Dede Scozzafava made about special interest money coming in from outside
the area to Doug Hoffman, that the voters need to be suspicious of that
money. That money, special interest money is all you, those of you in
the audience, around the country who are donating to Doug Hoffman. You
see, here's what I think few people, particularly inside the Beltway,
understand. NY-23 is not about just and only NY-23. The winner,
whoever it is, will have a say about health care and climate taxes that
we all pay, and it is proof, or as Lanny Davis would say, it is "poof,"
that we all knew, all summer, during the tea parties that the Drive-Bys
were too busy to cover, we know what's going on.
The people of this country are looking at NY-23 and they're saying, it's
my district, battleground district. You know, Sarah Palin way ahead of
the curve on this. Here's some lessons from NY-23. Hoffman, Christie
in New Jersey, and McD. in Virginia are all the same lesson:
Reagan Republicans win. Christie is not exactly Reagan Republican, but
he's a Republican, but Hoffman, Christie, Virginia, all teach the same
lesson, that's Reagan Republicans win. Sarah Palin is way ahead of the
curve of the media and the party elites here. And Hoffman is a
Republican! He's not a third party guy. He is a Republican. Had there
been a primary, we wouldn't even be talking third party here.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: I'll tell you another reason why these elections next week are
important. These elections are the first elections since people have
begun to catch on to what Obama and the Democrats are really up to. And
that's why how they turn out is so important. And that's why NY-23 is
about all of us. NY-23 is the future of America. And that's why money
from outside the area is pouring in there.
END TRANSCRIPT
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Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact to
Rangel's tax evasion. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:56 am |
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On Nov 2, 11:43 pm, "Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroysoet... at (no spam) usurper.org>
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Quote: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_103009/content/01125111.g...
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Why are you people making such a big deal of NY-23? It's a republican/
conservative stronghold and has been for decades. It's an election to
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"Leroy N. Soetoro" <leroysoetoro at (no spam) usurper.org> wrote:
Quote: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_103009/content/01125111.guest
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RUSH: Let's go to NY-23. This is an interesting piece here, Chris
Cillizza, Washington Post blog, The Fix: "What NY-23 Means." I love it
when the State-Controlled Media starts examining a political race that
has a dominant conservative in it. "Two things have become abundantly
clear about the special election in New York's 23rd district over the
past week," writes Chris Cillizza. "The first is that Conservative
Party candidate Doug Hoffman could win," damn it! "The second is that
neither major party knows what to think about the Hoffman candidacy."
(laughing) Neither major party knows what to think about the Hoffman
candidacy. Neither major party knows what to think about ascendant
conservatism!
The ascendant conservative lost. Ooops!
lojbab
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