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Jon°...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:49 am
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Why do these three so epitomise, their classification, as Usenet’s
stooge representation……. Because that is all they have to represent………
They are all stooges to the modern concept of, “let-it-all-out”…..A
policy that has been promoted by their masters, the bien-pensants’
who “sniff” regularly at their dinner parties in Hampstead and allow
their kids to take cocaine.

These three stupid stooges think that if they follow the trend of
these left-wing-elite-liberals it will make them look “with-it” In
fact it makes them look as if they have not an original thought in
their tiny minds;

These “little stooges” that we come across in this particular Ng area
of Usenet are incapable of having any real convictions, they just
follow their noses toward what they think is the fashionable thing to
do.

Sol When they read that a scientist states that cannabis, ecstasy and
LSD are less dangerous then alcohol they rush on to the bandwagon of
drug approval. Without using their overworked hidebound brains to
examine why this controversial scientific figure has arrived at this
conclusion.

All three have attacked me ( in a previous post) for stating that I
believed that Allen Johnson was correct in sacking the jumped up
government scientific advisor (namely Professor David Nut)
For trying to take over the mantle of government.

Let us examine each one of these self important “stooges”.

1. Abelard……Why does he use the posting-name Abelard? You may
ask…………………….Well that is very easy to answer………..This incorrigible
self promoting ignoramus sets himself up as a Monk-In-Dons’-
Clothing….He thinks that he can fool readers into believing that he is
the fount of all knowledge when in fact he is the sink…..A sink that
is the receptacle of all the trendy trash that he can gather.

He knows nothing, any points he ever makes are gained from search-
engines. The funny thing is that he does not even comprehend the
points he tries to make, he has little to offer but bluff and twaddle
all written in vague and untidy paragraphs that he feels will instil a
sense of admiration in his readers.

In the post I am referring to he accused me of being a Marxist because
I supported the Labour Home Secretary in sacking the drug promoting
Nut………..Anybody who has ever read any of my past posts would know that
I am, in fact, to the far right of Maggie…….That is the type of
attention he gives to what he states. Mind it must be difficult for
him as he gazes longingly at the outside world, through his council
house window. He must get awfully confused when looking through the
haze of meths’ induced mists that enrapt his aging brain.

2. William Unctuous Black……..Similar in many ways to the hideous
Abelard but he is different in one aspect…………….He is a constant
reminder of the genius of Dickens. Every time I read a Black post I am
reminded of the character Uriah Heep in Charles Dickens "David
Copperfield". I can see him cringing and wringing his hands as he
seeks new ways of gaining attention for himself.

On his repetitive trips to the sub-continent, I wonder if he carries
travel-bags with false-bottoms……………….Bottoms in which much can be
hidden. Perhaps this can explain why he is so fond of THE NUTTER who
wants to promote drugs in the UK.

3. Lastly and most definitively least……I come to Mel Rowing…..The
failed infant school-teacher…………How Rowing tries to impress us all
with his great long tabloids of posts which are full of rhetoric which
proclaim his left-wing adorations.

He tries to give the impression that his arguments are filled with
logical common sense……However if you ever upset him by over-turning
his illogical nonsense…………He soon becomes abusive……So belying the
impression he has been trying to create.

In reality he is completely devoid of wit or anything of importance to
say……He just gabbles on accusing all, whom he does not agree with, of
being scoundrels.

He probably takes drugs as well and perhaps this is why he is no
longer employed teaching our kids?

This would certainly fit in with his pattern of supporting the
increases of drug usage in the UK.
****************

Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

She completely dissolves all the arguments made in favour of the
Nutty professor and shows her approval of his dismissal.

Melanie proves, with examples, that there are just as many scientific
arguments against Professor David Nut views on taking drugs as there
are for his curious liberal type views.

Nut has admitted that his kids sniff drugs, I see that he lives in
Bristol and in pictures of him, that I see on TV, they show The
Clifton Suspension bridge in the background………………This probably means
that he lives in Clifton………………Whilst Clifton is a very attractive
place to live………..It is also filled with university and media types
who love to take a “sniff” after din-dins………..Perhaps his lifestyle
has affected his scientific opinions?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224578/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-Fatuous-dangerous-utterly-irresponsible--Nutty-professor-whos-distorting-truth-drugs.html


Fatuous, dangerous, utterly irresponsible - the Nutty professor who's
distorting the truth about drugs
By Melanie Phillips
Last updated at 8:47 AM on 02nd November 2009
************************************


PS Please note, I am off for a Caribbean cruise tomorrow and will
therefore be unable to answer any who wish to continue their attack……
However, God willing…..I shall return……….In around three weeks.
 
Saracene...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:04 am
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Quote:
Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

That foul, hideous, splenetic, Jewish hag, who once admitted she would

be happily betray this country for one dearer to her. So that's where
you are coming from. If that's philosophy to you Abelard has nothing
to fear from your disdain.
 
Anthropy...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:18 am
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 08:04:43 -0800 (PST), Saracene <john.jsm at (no spam) gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:

Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You're kidding right!!?

Quote:

That foul, hideous, splenetic, Jewish hag, who once admitted she would
be happily betray this country for one dearer to her. So that's where
you are coming from. If that's philosophy to you Abelard has nothing
to fear from your disdain.
 
Saracene...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:24 am
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On 2 Nov, 20:55, "True Blue" <garybagg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
"abelard" <abela... at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote in message

news:2vfue5pugnfurhecnfk52p0lb02gjnfm72 at (no spam) 4ax.com...



On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:46:08 -0000, "True Blue" <garybagg... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

"Saracene" <john.... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d3a86107-fd4f-4c0d-a1c1-a35f34acde6d at (no spam) k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com....

Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

That foul, hideous, splenetic, Jewish hag, who once admitted she would
be happily betray this country for one dearer to her.

Do you have a link to that?

Interested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224578/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-Fa...

she's throwing sand, but her disorganised rant
   does stumble over some half-understood difficulties
   that a person like her is bound to have with statistics

OK, that doesn't provide any evidence of her willingness to "happily betray
this country for one dearer to her", but thanks for the link. Does anyone
have any *tangible* refutation to what she says?

I haven't managed to find a link yet. It was years ago and she was
talking about who she would support in the hypothetical event of a
war between Britain and Israel. She said unequivocally that she would
support Israel. She did not say she would remain neutral.
 
Saracene...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:37 am
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On 2 Nov, 21:24, Saracene <john.... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 2 Nov, 20:55, "True Blue" <garybagg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



"abelard" <abela... at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote in message

news:2vfue5pugnfurhecnfk52p0lb02gjnfm72 at (no spam) 4ax.com...

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:46:08 -0000, "True Blue" <garybagg... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

"Saracene" <john.... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d3a86107-fd4f-4c0d-a1c1-a35f34acde6d at (no spam) k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

That foul, hideous, splenetic, Jewish hag, who once admitted she would
be happily betray this country for one dearer to her.

Do you have a link to that?

Interested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224578/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-Fa....

she's throwing sand, but her disorganised rant
   does stumble over some half-understood difficulties
   that a person like her is bound to have with statistics

OK, that doesn't provide any evidence of her willingness to "happily betray
this country for one dearer to her", but thanks for the link. Does anyone
have any *tangible* refutation to what she says?

I haven't managed to find a link yet. It was years ago and she was
talking about who she would support in the hypothetical  event of a
war between Britain and Israel. She said unequivocally that she would
support Israel. She did not say she would remain neutral.

Here is a link'

http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=6

"Fixing me with a stare, Self asked the question that had clearly
formed in his mind after he read through a selection of my journalism
(as he told me) on the train up from London. Where, he demanded, did
my own loyalties lie? If Britain declared war on Israel, whose side
would I be on?

I could scarcely believe what I had heard. Self was seeking to make
the wider world aware of two things: first, that I was a Jew, and
second, that therefore my views on Israel could be disregarded since
Jews had double loyalties.

I replied that British Jews were immensely patriotic. It was also
inconceivable that Britain should attack Israel since Israel was a
salient of democracy in the middle east. But if the inconceivable were
ever to happen, this would represent such a turning against Jews that
some of us might feel we had no alternative but to live in Israel. "

She goes on to say:-

"That of course was entirely different from being a traitor to one’s
own country."

That of course depends upon what one considers one's country to be. If
on the declaration of war in 1939 a British person felt they had no
alternative to go and live in Germany, how would they have been
regarded? Lord Haw Haw was one who left just before the declaration.
Also Self, himself of Jewish stock, was not saying that all Jews had
double loyalties, he was ascertaining whether or not she did.
 
True Blue...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:46 am
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"Saracene" <john.jsm at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d3a86107-fd4f-4c0d-a1c1-a35f34acde6d at (no spam) k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
Quote:

Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

That foul, hideous, splenetic, Jewish hag, who once admitted she would
be happily betray this country for one dearer to her.

Do you have a link to that?

Interested.
 
Svenne...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:59 am
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:49:51 -0800 (PST), Jon° <raystap at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

Quote:
Sol When they read that a scientist states that cannabis, ecstasy and
LSD are less dangerous then alcohol they rush on to the bandwagon of
drug approval. Without using their overworked hidebound brains to
examine why this controversial scientific figure has arrived at this
conclusion.

There is also the little fact that alcohol actually is more dangerous
than most currently illegal drugs.

Quote:
Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

Melanie Phillips article is unintelligent, uneducated blather.

Quote:
She completely dissolves all the arguments made in favour of the
Nutty professor and shows her approval of his dismissal.

Ha Ha, only for an easily fooled half wit.

Quote:
Melanie proves, with examples, that there are just as many scientific
arguments against Professor David Nut views on taking drugs as there
are for his curious liberal type views.

The professor does not present views, he presents facts. Mad Melanie
presents bullshit.

Quote:
PS Please note, I am off for a Caribbean cruise tomorrow and will
therefore be unable to answer any who wish to continue their attack……
However, God willing…..I shall return……….In around three weeks.

Bon Voyage.

You should try some good Jamaican ganja while you are there, it might
loosen you up a bit. I mean, you might disturb the other passengers
when you walk around with your arse squeaking.

Svenne
 
Ariadne...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:55 pm
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Saracene <john.... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Also Self, himself of Jewish stock, was not saying that all Jews had
double loyalties, he was ascertaining whether or not she did.

He was using an antisemitic canard. Hence
the response:

"I could scarcely believe what I had heard.
Self was seeking to make the wider world
aware of two things: first, that I was a Jew,
and second, that therefore my views on
Israel could be disregarded since Jews had
double loyalties."

Fatfat would be proud of him!
 
Ariadne...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:05 pm
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On 2 Nov, 23:55, Ariadne <ariadne.... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Saracene <john.... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Also Self, himself of Jewish stock, was not saying that all Jews had
double loyalties, he was ascertaining whether or not she did.

He was using an antisemitic canard. Hence
the response:

"I could scarcely believe what I had heard.
Self was seeking to make the wider world
aware of two things: first, that I was a Jew,
and second, that therefore my views on
Israel could be disregarded since Jews had
double loyalties."

Fatfat would be proud of him!

That attack came from a "Queston Time" in
December 2001.

Melanie goes on to say:

"When I said, however, that Israel was a democracy the audience did a
horrible and astonishing thing. They laughed.

That incredulous laugh was more shocking even than Self’s attack. It
revealed that however many Israeli teenagers are blown to smithereens
by suicide bombers, the British have seen on TV Israel’s tanks
demolishing Palestinian houses and above all seen those Palestinian
children being killed by Israeli soldiers, and they have formed the
view that Israel is a tyranny and the Jews are the real terrorists."

And later:

"I believe that the visceral hostility towards Israel and Jews
displayed by both the panel and the audience are representative now of
much mainstream British opinion."

And:

"Israel has never troubled to make its case effectively to the world
which it assumes will always be hostile or indifferent. It never
foresaw that Palestinian terror, whose purpose was to provoke a
counter-reaction that would not only turn the world against Israel but
destroy its very soul, would be financed by a western world which
would be suckers for the propaganda of the victim culture."

See what you dhimmis have helped bring about?
 
abelard...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:23 pm
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:49:51 -0800 (PST), Jon° <raystap at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

Quote:
PS Please note, I am off for a Caribbean

desperate for some solace again then

further, you should be satisfied with your dole

--
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics
energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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abelard...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:27 pm
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:46:08 -0000, "True Blue" <garybaggers at (no spam) gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:

"Saracene" <john.jsm at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d3a86107-fd4f-4c0d-a1c1-a35f34acde6d at (no spam) k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

That foul, hideous, splenetic, Jewish hag, who once admitted she would
be happily betray this country for one dearer to her.

Do you have a link to that?

Interested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224578/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-Fatuous-dangerous-utterly-irresponsible--Nutty-professor-whos-distorting-truth-drugs.html

she's throwing sand, but her disorganised rant
does stumble over some half-understood difficulties
that a person like her is bound to have with statistics

regards

--
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics
energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
True Blue...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:55 pm
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"abelard" <abelard3 at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote in message
news:2vfue5pugnfurhecnfk52p0lb02gjnfm72 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:46:08 -0000, "True Blue" <garybaggers at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:


"Saracene" <john.jsm at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d3a86107-fd4f-4c0d-a1c1-a35f34acde6d at (no spam) k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

That foul, hideous, splenetic, Jewish hag, who once admitted she would
be happily betray this country for one dearer to her.

Do you have a link to that?

Interested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224578/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-Fatuous-dangerous-utterly-irresponsible--Nutty-professor-whos-distorting-truth-drugs.html

she's throwing sand, but her disorganised rant
does stumble over some half-understood difficulties
that a person like her is bound to have with statistics


OK, that doesn't provide any evidence of her willingness to "happily betray
this country for one dearer to her", but thanks for the link. Does anyone
have any *tangible* refutation to what she says?
 
True Blue...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:58 pm
Guest
"abelard" <abelard3 at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote in message
news:5rfue5die93sjv5p0tnuehocif88n0putg at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:49:51 -0800 (PST), Jon° <raystap at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

PS Please note, I am off for a Caribbean

desperate for some solace again then

further, you should be satisfied with your dole


On returning to East Midlands airport last week, I noticed (via government
posters) that it is illegal to travel overseas whilst in receipt of
benefits.
 
abelard...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:22 pm
Guest
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:55:13 -0000, "True Blue" <garybaggers at (no spam) gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:

"abelard" <abelard3 at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote in message
news:2vfue5pugnfurhecnfk52p0lb02gjnfm72 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:46:08 -0000, "True Blue" <garybaggers at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:


"Saracene" <john.jsm at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d3a86107-fd4f-4c0d-a1c1-a35f34acde6d at (no spam) k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

Below is a link that will lead you into an article written by Melanie
Phillips, who is one of the best philosophical commentators we have
today.

That foul, hideous, splenetic, Jewish hag, who once admitted she would
be happily betray this country for one dearer to her.

Do you have a link to that?

Interested.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1224578/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-Fatuous-dangerous-utterly-irresponsible--Nutty-professor-whos-distorting-truth-drugs.html

she's throwing sand, but her disorganised rant
does stumble over some half-understood difficulties
that a person like her is bound to have with statistics

OK, that doesn't provide any evidence of her willingness to "happily betray
this country for one dearer to her",

not of interest to me...perhaps i misread your request

Quote:
but thanks for the link. Does anyone
have any *tangible* refutation to what she says?

she does has a chaotic mind but she is not lacking in
data

the article is a mess...but it had no clear errors that i noted....
the same applies to nutt, but nutt has a highly organised mind...

if you want comment on any detail i'll do what i can :-)

regards

--
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics
energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
abelard...
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:30 pm
Guest
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:58:07 -0000, "True Blue" <garybaggers at (no spam) gmail.com>
wrote:

Quote:

"abelard" <abelard3 at (no spam) abelard.org> wrote in message
news:5rfue5die93sjv5p0tnuehocif88n0putg at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 07:49:51 -0800 (PST), Jon° <raystap at (no spam) yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

PS Please note, I am off for a Caribbean

desperate for some solace again then

further, you should be satisfied with your dole

On returning to East Midlands airport last week, I noticed (via government
posters) that it is illegal to travel overseas whilst in receipt of
benefits.

i'm not going to tell on him....
he might cancel his trip

regards

--
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics
energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 
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