"The_Carpathia" <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

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So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

Ino ther words: Ford did not need it.

 while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

In other words: the others needed it.

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits, while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.
Which path do you want the country to take...capitalist, refusing govt
aid, leading to a profit...or govt run, leading to economic collapse
and loss?

On Nov 2, 12:23 pm, The_Carpathia <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits, while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.
Which path do you want the country to take...capitalist, refusing govt
aid, leading to a profit...or govt run, leading to economic collapse
and loss?

BUY  FORD!  Help support equal rights for gay and transgendered
people!

-----http://www.hrc.org/13518.htm

* Number of Top Rated Businesses for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual,
and Transgender Workers Jumps Despite Tough Economy *
9/14/2009

WASHINGTON, D.C. –The number of businesses with perfect ratings based
on  lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender workplace policies and
benefits rose by twenty percent in the past twelve months — despite
the serious economic downturn — according to a new report released
today by the Human Rights Campaign Foundation, the nation’s largest
lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender civil rights organization. The
2010 edition of the Corporate Equality Index, which rates 590
businesses on a scale from 0 to 100 percent, reports 305 businesses
achieved top ratings, compared to 260 last year. To view the report
visit:www.HRC.org/CEI...

Ford Motor Company:
 * Fortune 500 Rank - 7
 * Corporate Equality Index - 100%
-----

More details about Ford Motor Company's GLBT Equality Policies can be
read at::

http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/organization_profile.asp?organiza...

  -Tom Sr.

On Nov 2, 12:31 pm, "PC" <P... at (no spam) minneapolis.mn.us> wrote:

"The_Carpathia" <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1d39938c-1b92-439a-99e1-1180c8c854da at (no spam) k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com....

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

Ino ther words: Ford did not need it.

 while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

In other words: the others needed it.

Convenient amnesia....that's what you have.  I recall Ford execs going
before Congress that were demanding they take the money, and the
refused the money in Congressional hearings.  I recall their dire
financial condition dropping their stock, just like the others.
However, I recall Ford taking out credit from banks, rather than the
government...banks that didn't, then, demand changes that would sink
their company.  However, anything that works against your side is just
forgotten...like the million broken promises of Obama.

Kenneth W Clifton

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits, while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

Which path do you want the country to take...capitalist, refusing govt
aid, leading to a profit...or govt run, leading to economic collapse
and loss?

Kenneth W Clifton

On Nov 2, 9:36 am, The_Carpathia <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:



On Nov 2, 12:31 pm, "PC" <P... at (no spam) minneapolis.mn.us> wrote:

"The_Carpathia" <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1d39938c-1b92-439a-99e1-1180c8c854da at (no spam) k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com....

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

Ino ther words: Ford did not need it.

 while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

In other words: the others needed it.

Convenient amnesia....that's what you have.  I recall Ford execs going
before Congress that were demanding they take the money, and the
refused the money in Congressional hearings.  I recall their dire
financial condition dropping their stock, just like the others.
However, I recall Ford taking out credit from banks, rather than the
government...banks that didn't, then, demand changes that would sink
their company.  However, anything that works against your side is just
forgotten...like the million broken promises of Obama.

Kenneth W Clifton

You recall incorrectly.  Congress did not force money on the auto
companies the way that it was forced on the banks (each of the 7 major
banks was required to take TARP money so that no single bank would be
seen as institutionally weaker or stronger).  Ford went before
Congress and explained their financials.  The bailout offer was made,
and Ford declined based on the terms of the offer...

On Nov 2, 12:44 pm, "Tom Sr." <tomswiftsen... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
BUY FORD! Help support equal rights for gay and transgendered
people!
http://www.hrc.org/13518.htm
--
You mean it's possible to have politically correct Wall Street company
management without government controls?

On Nov 2, 12:53 pm, Stile4aly <stile4... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:





On Nov 2, 9:36 am, The_Carpathia <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Nov 2, 12:31 pm, "PC" <P... at (no spam) minneapolis.mn.us> wrote:

"The_Carpathia" <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1d39938c-1b92-439a-99e1-1180c8c854da at (no spam) k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

Ino ther words: Ford did not need it.

 while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

In other words: the others needed it.

Convenient amnesia....that's what you have.  I recall Ford execs going
before Congress that were demanding they take the money, and the
refused the money in Congressional hearings.  I recall their dire
financial condition dropping their stock, just like the others.
However, I recall Ford taking out credit from banks, rather than the
government...banks that didn't, then, demand changes that would sink
their company.  However, anything that works against your side is just
forgotten...like the million broken promises of Obama.

Kenneth W Clifton

You recall incorrectly.  Congress did not force money on the auto
companies the way that it was forced on the banks (each of the 7 major
banks was required to take TARP money so that no single bank would be
seen as institutionally weaker or stronger).  Ford went before
Congress and explained their financials.  The bailout offer was made,
and Ford declined based on the terms of the offer...

So, YOU are saying Congress OFFERED bailout money to a company that
didn't need it?

Kenneth W Clifton- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"The_Carpathia" <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1d39938c-1b92-439a-99e1-1180c8c854da at (no spam) k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

Ino ther words: Ford did not need it.

 while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

In other words: the others needed it.

On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:08:21 -0800 (PST), Wide Eyed in Wonder





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On Nov 2, 12:53 pm, Stile4aly <stile4... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:36 am, The_Carpathia <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Nov 2, 12:31 pm, "PC" <P... at (no spam) minneapolis.mn.us> wrote:

"The_Carpathia" <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1d39938c-1b92-439a-99e1-1180c8c854da at (no spam) k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

Ino ther words: Ford did not need it.

 while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

In other words: the others needed it.

Convenient amnesia....that's what you have.  I recall Ford execs going
before Congress that were demanding they take the money, and the
refused the money in Congressional hearings.  I recall their dire
financial condition dropping their stock, just like the others.
However, I recall Ford taking out credit from banks, rather than the
government...banks that didn't, then, demand changes that would sink
their company.  However, anything that works against your side is just
forgotten...like the million broken promises of Obama.

Kenneth W Clifton

You recall incorrectly.  Congress did not force money on the auto
companies the way that it was forced on the banks (each of the 7 major
banks was required to take TARP money so that no single bank would be
seen as institutionally weaker or stronger).  Ford went before
Congress and explained their financials.  The bailout offer was made,
and Ford declined based on the terms of the offer...

So, YOU are saying Congress OFFERED bailout money to a company that
didn't need it?

Kenneth W Clifton

This is indeed the Bush government you are talking about.  And they
did indeed forced their will on the banks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

"The_Carpathia" <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1d39938c-1b92-439a-99e1-1180c8c854da at (no spam) k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

Ino ther words: Ford did not need it.

while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

In other words: the others needed it.

On Nov 2, 12:53 pm, Stile4aly <stile4... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:36 am, The_Carpathia <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:



On Nov 2, 12:31 pm, "PC" <P... at (no spam) minneapolis.mn.us> wrote:

"The_Carpathia" <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:1d39938c-1b92-439a-99e1-1180c8c854da at (no spam) k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

So, Ford, which refused to take government bailout money, just posted
a BILLION in profits,

Ino ther words: Ford did not need it.

 while the bailed out car companies ended in
bankruptcy and are STILL suffering.

In other words: the others needed it.

Convenient amnesia....that's what you have.  I recall Ford execs going
before Congress that were demanding they take the money, and the
refused the money in Congressional hearings.  I recall their dire
financial condition dropping their stock, just like the others.
However, I recall Ford taking out credit from banks, rather than the
government...banks that didn't, then, demand changes that would sink
their company.  However, anything that works against your side is just
forgotten...like the million broken promises of Obama.

Kenneth W Clifton

You recall incorrectly.  Congress did not force money on the auto
companies the way that it was forced on the banks (each of the 7 major
banks was required to take TARP money so that no single bank would be
seen as institutionally weaker or stronger).  Ford went before
Congress and explained their financials.  The bailout offer was made,
and Ford declined based on the terms of the offer...

So, YOU are saying Congress OFFERED bailout money to a company that
didn't need it?

Kenneth W Clifton
This is indeed the Bush government you are talking about. And they

The_Carpathia <writing... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Which path do you want the country to take...capitalist, refusing govt
aid, leading to a profit...or govt run, leading to economic collapse
and loss?

false dichotomy.
---
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj... at (no spam) lojban.org   Lojban languagewww.lojban.org