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BDK...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:49 am
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bongblaster at (no spam) peoplepc.com says...
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:14:11 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iarnrod at (no spam) yahoo.com
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On Oct 30, 6:56 am, Bongblaster <bongblas... at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:21:02 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iarn... at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:

Unreacted Nano-Thermite (A high energy pyrotechnic explosive) found in
the dust from the world trade center. Mmmm, nothing to see here, move
along!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o

There wasn't any, dearie.

Yes there was, Hymie

No, dearie, there wasn't. And what's with the Hymie shit? Are you on
drugs, like most of you kkkooks who come up with this physiclaly
impossible bullshit you try to sell?

 Its source has been traced to Dimona.  

Your source has been traced to Paxil.

snicker

Squeal ... squeal ... squeal ... little ZOG piggie.

Wow, you really got a bad case of kookitis!!

Do you really believe any of the crap you make up? So sad, a mind is a
terrible thing to waste!

Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dusthttp://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/explosive_residues.html

Nope, sorry, but none were found.

You don't realize it was drywall residue! This is soooooo funny! You
kkkooks are just the funniest!

Keep squealing little ZOG piggie.

weeeeeeeeeee weeeeeeeeeee weeeeeeeeeeee

We love it when you squeal, Hymie.

It makes my balls tingle.

BWHAHAHAHAHA!

Quote:

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Israel's Super-Thermite Lab
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/september-11th/68606-israels-super-thermite-lab.html
Christopher Bollyn
August 24, 2009

The crime of 9-11 is still very much at the center of the political
stage. It is the real reason why the Zionist-controlled Barack Obama
is president of the United States and why the 86-year-old Shimon Peres
is president of Israel. The lie has to be defended to protect the real
criminals. Shimon Peres, the father of Israel's nuclear arsenal, and
the Zionist criminals who helped him build nuclear weapons in the
Negev Desert are at the very center of the false-flag terrorism and
deception of 9-11. Peres' friends and Mossad agents like Arnon
Milchan, Rafi Eitan, Zvi Malkin, and Avraham Ben-Dor played crucial
roles in both 9-11 and the creation of Israel's nukes. This is not
merely coincidence.

Israel's Nuclear Research Center - Negev near Dimona develops
super-thermite films like that found in the rubble of the World Trade
Center.

Israel's secret and super-secure nuclear lab is where the extremely
powerful super-thermite of 9-11 was designed. The chief scientists
involved in the manufacturing of the nano-composite used to pulverize
the World Trade Center on 9-11 will be named in a forthcoming article
in this space.

This is the extremely powerful nano-composite used to pulverize the
World Trade Center on 9-11. This is a form of super-thermite that was
applied as a highly energetic film to the interior surfaces of the
Twin Towers.

The pyroclastic dust clouds of 9-11 looked very much like a nuclear
blast. The super-thermite that pulverized the Twin Towers was designed
at Israel's super-secret complex that manufactures nuclear weapons.



Man, you reek of kooktardery. Thermite isn't an explosive, even "Nano-
Thermite", you poor loon.

You kooktard's families are going through a tragic amount of pain, but
you 911 kooks are funny as hell. Especially when you post something as
out of touch as the above buffoonery.

--

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
 
BDK...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:53 am
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Bongblaster wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:27:33 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:


In article <ek2je59l17qn1kkc8k6kitea3k25fpb50i at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
bongblaster at (no spam) peoplepc.com says...

"9/11 conspiracy theories"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

"...Jones has presented the hypothesis that thermite or nano thermite
was used to demolish the buildings."
_________________________________________________

The above is a scientifically factual statement.

Nope, it's just one of many disproven claims made by people about 911.


Unreacted Nano-Thermite (A high energy pyrotechnic explosive) found in
the dust from the world trade center. Mmmm, nothing to see here, move
along!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o

come on . that thermite. It is just harmless material used in the
concrete reinforcement .


BWAHAHAHAHA! You're a 911 knucklehead too?

I love it when a new kook comes to play.
--

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Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
 
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:27:33 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

In article <ek2je59l17qn1kkc8k6kitea3k25fpb50i at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
bongblaster at (no spam) peoplepc.com says...


"9/11 conspiracy theories"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

"...Jones has presented the hypothesis that thermite or nano thermite
was used to demolish the buildings."
_________________________________________________

The above is a scientifically factual statement.

Nope, it's just one of many disproven claims made by people about 911.

As always, the government coverup shill CLAIMS the facts of the 9/11
inside-job conspiracy have been disproven, but cannot produce the alleged
disproof!

Meanwhile, those speaking the truth have plenty of evidence to support their
claims!


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049
Global Research, April 3, 2009

Below is the Abstract, Introduction and Conclusions of this important and
carefully researched article. The complete article can be downloaded (pdf)

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade
Center Catastrophe

pp.7-31 (25)
Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R.Ryan,
Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R.Gourley, Bradley
R. Larsen

The Open Chemical Physics Journal
Volume 2
ISSN: 1874-4125
doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

Complete Article
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

Abstract:

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we
have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World
Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from
separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show
marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a
Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second
WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The
properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy,
scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive
spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The
red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are
largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like
structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone
demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and
aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a
DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at
approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for
conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed
in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray
chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted
thermitic material and highly energetic.

Global Research Editor's Note
The definition of thermitic material:

A trademark used for a welding and incendiary mixture of fine aluminum
powder with a metallic oxide, usually iron, that when ignited yields an
intense heat.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal
oxide, which produces an aluminothermic reaction known as a thermite
reaction. (Wikipedia)

What we are dealing with is the melting/ burning of metal structures.

"Metals are capable of burning under the right conditions, similarly
to the combustion process of wood or gasoline. ... A thermite reaction
is a process in which the correct mixture of metallic fuels are
combined and ignited. Ignition itself requires extremely high
temperatures."

Readers can reach their own conclusions as to the far-reaching
implications of these findings.

Although the authors do not address the broader issue of the 9/11
attacks, their findings have a direct bearing on the likely causes of
the collapse of the WTC buildings on September 11, 2001. The findings
also question the validity of the official report of the 911 Commission.

Below are selected excerpts of the article. Readers can also link to
the complete text, by clicking the link

Complete Article
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

EXCERPTS

INTRODUCTION

The destruction of three skyscrapers (WTC 1, 2 and 7) on September 11,
2001 was an immensely tragic catastrophe that not only impacted
thousands of people and families directly, due to injury and loss of
life, but also provided the motivation for numerous expensive and
radical changes in domestic and foreign policy. For these and other
reasons, knowing what really happened that fateful day is of grave
importance.

A great deal of effort has been put forth by various
government-sponsored and -funded investigations, which led, in large
part, to the reports released by FEMA [1] and NIST [2]. Other studies
of the destruction have been less well publicized but are no less
important to the outstanding obligation that remains to the victims of
that tragedy, to determine the whole truth of the events of that day
[3-10]. A number of these studies have appropriately focused
attention on the remaining physical material, and on available
photographs and video footage, as sources of evidence still in public
hands, relating to the method of destruction of the three
skyscrapers.

CONCLUSIONS

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in significant numbers
in dust associated with the World Trade Center destruction. We have
applied SEM/XEDS and other methods to characterize the small-scale
structure and chemical signature of these chips, especially of their
red component. The red material is most interesting and has the
following characteristics:

1. It is composed of aluminum, iron, oxygen, silicon and carbon.
Lesser amounts of other potentially reactive elements are sometimes
present, such as potassium, sulfur, lead, barium and copper.

2. The primary elements (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) are typically all present
in particles at the scale of tens to hundreds of nanometers, and
detailed XEDS mapping shows intimate mixing.

3. On treatment with methyl ethyl ketone solvent, some segregation of
components occurred. Elemental aluminum became sufficiently
concentrated to be clearly identified in the pre-ignition material.

4. Iron oxide appears in faceted grains roughly 100 nm across whereas
the aluminum appears in thin platelike structures. The small size of
the iron oxide particles qualifies the material to be characterized as
nanothermite or super-thermite.

5. Analysis shows that iron and oxygen are present in a ratio
consistent with Fe2O3. The red material in all four WTC dust samples
was similar in this way. Iron oxide was found in the pre-ignition
material whereas elemental iron was not.

6. From the presence of elemental aluminum and iron oxide in the red
material, we conclude that it contains the ingredients of thermite.

7. As measured using DSC, the material ignites and reacts vigorously
at a temperature of approximately 430 °C, with a rather narrow
exotherm, matching fairly closely an independent observation on a
known super-thermite sample. The low temperature of ignition and the
presence of iron oxide grains less than 120 nm show that the material
is not conventional thermite (which ignites at temperatures above 900
°C) but very likely a form of super-thermite.

8. After igniting several red/gray chips in a DSC run to 700 °C, we
found numerous iron-rich spheres and spheroids in the residue,
indicating that a very high temperature reaction had occurred, since
the iron-rich product clearly must have been molten to form these
shapes. In several spheres, elemental iron was verified since the iron
content significantly exceeded the oxygen content. We conclude that a
high-temperature reduction-oxidation reaction has occurred in the
heated chips, namely, the thermite reaction.

9. The spheroids produced by the DSC tests and by the flame test have
an XEDS signature (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) which is depleted in carbon and
aluminum relative to the original red material. This chemical
signature strikingly matches the chemical signature of the spheroids
produced by igniting commercial thermite, and also matches the
signatures of many of the microspheres found in the WTC dust [5].

10. The carbon content of the red material indicates that an organic
substance is present. This would be expected for super-thermite
formulations in order to produce high gas pressures upon ignition and
thus make them explosive. The nature of the organic material in these
chips merits further exploration. We note that it is likely also an
energetic material, in that the total energy release sometimes
observed in DSC tests exceeds the theoretical maximum energy of the
classic thermite reaction.

Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the
red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted
thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly
energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.
(emphasis added)

Complete Article

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

Study: Scientists Discover Active Thermitic Material in WTC Dust by
researcher
Friday Apr 3rd, 2009 7:30 PM

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade
Center Catastrophe

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Victoria Ashley, STJ911 committee member
Site: www.STJ911.org
Email: stj911 at (no spam) gmail.com
Study: Scientists Discover Active Thermitic Material in WTC Dust

Berkeley, CA, April 3, 2009 -- A new study by independent scientists
and researchers suggests the cause behind the catastrophic destruction
of World Trade Center Towers on September 11th can be seen in the dust
itself: active thermitic material, a highly engineered explosive.

The study, published today in The Open Chemical Physics Journal,
describes a finding of "red/gray bi-layered chips" in samples of dust
taken from vicinity of the World Trade Center following its
destruction. Using tools such as a scanning electron microscope (SEM)
and x-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS) to analyze the
material, the study authors concluded that, "the red portion of these
chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly
energetic."

The study's finding lends new support to the demolition theory put
forth by critics of the official reports.

At a time when the American public is finding it difficult to
understand the full story behind the current economic crisis, findings
of a demolition raise new questions about how the 'War on Terror' --
an enormous source of recent American spending -- was started.

Officials with the National Institute of Standards and Technology
(NIST), charged with establishing the cause of the buildings'
destruction, have stated that they "did not test for the residue of
these compounds in the steel," and that thermite, "or another
incendiary compound," would be too difficult to have placed in the
buildings without notice.

NIST has stated that such difficulties make demolition unlikely. They
concluded that aircraft impacts and the subsequent fires led to the
building failures.

Dr. Steven Jones, physicist and author on the paper, says that NIST
has refused to test the dust for thermite, super-thermite, or any
other accelerant or explosive.

"We've repeatedly asked them to follow standard investigative
procedure, to perform these tests and release the results. They
haven't."

Jones says such tests may be required by fire protection codes.

Kevin Ryan, chemist and co-author on the paper, explained why he
thinks NIST is wrong. "What we've discovered is not conventional
thermite -- which is what NIST continues to refer to -- but a highly
engineered thermitic material, or 'super thermite', probably designed
for just this type of application."

Pre-planned demolition, supporters say, is the 'best-fit' model for
the many unusual and unexplained characteristics of the building
failures, such as the speed and symmetry of the collapses, and the
extreme pulverization of the materials leading to clouds of
micron-sized dust particles, described in one insurance report as
behaving similar to a "volcanic eruption".

"One of the unusual features that piqued my interest," Jones said,
"was the pools of molten metal seen in all three rubble piles, WTC 1,
2 & 7."

NIST officials have published a response stating that the condition of
the steel was "irrelevant to the investigation of the collapse."

Jones, formerly a Professor of Physics with Brigham Young University
and known for his work in muon-catalyzed fusion, published in Nature,
Scientific American, and the Journal of Physical Chemistry, began
researching the 9/11/01 attacks in 2005.

Jones discovered the curious thermitic material in 2007, when he ran a
magnet over a dust sample given to him by a Manhattan resident
survivor of the attack, and found that some particles were attracted
to the magnet.

"That was very odd to me," he said.

Those particles turned out to be iron-rich microspheres, partially
described in a 2001 USGS study of the dust.

But to fully analyze, describe and report on the thermitic material
would take longer.

Jones was joined in that effort by several others including Dr. Niels
Harrit, a chemistry professor with the University of Copenhagen for
over 30 years and author of numerous research papers in journals such
as Nano Letters, the Journal of the American Chemistry Society, and
the Journal of Physical Chemistry A.

Harrit says that he is frequently asked why he researches the
September 11th attack. and says has two answers.

"First, I am opposed to crime, and second, when my 6 grandchildren ask
me, 'Grandfather, which side were you on?' I will be able to answer
them, 'I was on your side'."

Co-author Dr. Jeffrey Farrer, a materials scientist and Director of
the TEM (Transmition Electron Microscopy) laboratory at BYU, says he
hopes the paper will "change the way the 9/11 truth movement is viewed
by the mainstream public and media."

And chemist and co-author Kevin Ryan, a former Underwriters
Laboratories manager, challenged the NIST report in public statements
in 2004, and was consequently fired.

"This finding really goes beyond anything that has previously been
shown," says Jones. "We had to use sophisticated tools to analyze the
dust because this isn't just a typical explosive, RDX or CD4 or
something -- this is a highly engineered material not readily
available to just anyone."

In a 2006 interview with Deseret News, Jones noted that commercial
explosives must contain tag elements for traceability, but that no law
requires tagging of advanced forms of thermitics.

In 2008, several of these authors published three articles challenging
the official reports in US scientific journals, The Open Civil
Engineering Journal, The Environmentalist, and The Journal of
Engineering Mechanics Dozens of other papers making similar challenges
have been published in the sister publication of the Scholars group,
The Journal of 9/11 Studies

Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization of
over 700 independent researchers analyzing the September 11, 2001
attacks with a strong emphasis on the scientific method.

For information: http://www.stj911.com
http://stj911.org/press_releases/ActiveThe...
 
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:22 am
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:14:24 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:

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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:27:33 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

In article <ek2je59l17qn1kkc8k6kitea3k25fpb50i at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
bongblaster at (no spam) peoplepc.com says...


"9/11 conspiracy theories"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

"...Jones has presented the hypothesis that thermite or nano thermite
was used to demolish the buildings."
_________________________________________________

The above is a scientifically factual statement.

Nope, it's just one of many disproven claims made by people about 911.

As always, the government coverup shill CLAIMS the facts of the 9/11
inside-job conspiracy have been disproven, but cannot produce the alleged
disproof!

7 years of "disproof":

http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.conspiracy/search?hl=en&group=alt.conspiracy&q=911&qt_g=Search+this+group

--
Shill #2

If Freedom Man says a foolish thing fifty million times, it is
still a foolish thing.
Me (with apologies to Anatole France)
 
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:24 am
Guest
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Freedom Man <liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:
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On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:27:33 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

In article <ek2je59l17qn1kkc8k6kitea3k25fpb50i at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
bongblaster at (no spam) peoplepc.com says...


"9/11 conspiracy theories"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

"...Jones has presented the hypothesis that thermite or nano thermite
was used to demolish the buildings."
_________________________________________________

The above is a scientifically factual statement.

Nope, it's just one of many disproven claims made by people about 911.

As always, the government coverup shill CLAIMS the facts of the 9/11
inside-job conspiracy have been disproven, but cannot produce the alleged
disproof!

Meanwhile, those speaking the truth have plenty of evidence to support their
claims!


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049
Global Research, April 3, 2009

Below is the Abstract, Introduction and Conclusions of this important and
carefully researched article. The complete article can be downloaded (pdf)

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade
Center Catastrophe

pp.7-31 (25)
Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R.Ryan,
Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R.Gourley, Bradley
R. Larsen





The Harrit paper summarized for for Dummies.


The aim of the experiment is to determine whether thermite was
present.

The thermite reaction contains its own oxygen source.

The thermite reaction will proceed in an oxygen-free atmosphere.
Combustion will not.

Therefore, in order to distinguish between a thermite reaction and
combustion, calorimetry must be carried out in an oxygen-free
atmosphere.

The calorimetry carried out in the paper was in an
oxygen-containing atmosphere. Therefore, the calorimetry cannot be
taken as evidence of a thermite reaction.

For Harrit et al to claim that their results are evidence of a
thermite reaction, they appear to be assuming that any real
scientists reading their paper are, rather than are not,
stupid. Sadly for them, we aren't.



--
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- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
 
BDK...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:58 pm
Guest
In article <hcf6th$ctb$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>, liberty at (no spam) once.net
says...
Quote:
"Bongblaster" <bongblaster at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:0djke5l31e3ivkaureca86ijaed77n7fa8 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:27:33 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

In article <ek2je59l17qn1kkc8k6kitea3k25fpb50i at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
bongblaster at (no spam) peoplepc.com says...


"9/11 conspiracy theories"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

"...Jones has presented the hypothesis that thermite or nano thermite
was used to demolish the buildings."
_________________________________________________

The above is a scientifically factual statement.

Nope, it's just one of many disproven claims made by people about 911.

As always, the government coverup shill CLAIMS the facts of the 9/11
inside-job conspiracy have been disproven, but cannot produce the alleged
disproof!

Meanwhile, those speaking the truth have plenty of evidence to support their
claims!


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13049
Global Research, April 3, 2009

Below is the Abstract, Introduction and Conclusions of this important and
carefully researched article. The complete article can be downloaded (pdf)

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade
Center Catastrophe

pp.7-31 (25)
Authors: Niels H. Harrit, Jeffrey Farrer, Steven E. Jones, Kevin R.Ryan,
Frank M. Legge, Daniel Farnsworth, Gregg Roberts, James R.Gourley, Bradley
R. Larsen

The Open Chemical Physics Journal
Volume 2
ISSN: 1874-4125
doi: 10.2174/1874412500902010007

Complete Article
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

Abstract:

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we
have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World
Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from
separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show
marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a
Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second
WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The
properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy,
scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive
spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC). The
red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are
largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like
structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone
demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and
aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material. When ignited in a
DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at
approximately 430 °C, far below the normal ignition temperature for
conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed
in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray
chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted
thermitic material and highly energetic.

Global Research Editor's Note
The definition of thermitic material:

A trademark used for a welding and incendiary mixture of fine aluminum
powder with a metallic oxide, usually iron, that when ignited yields an
intense heat.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth
Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2003.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal
oxide, which produces an aluminothermic reaction known as a thermite
reaction. (Wikipedia)

What we are dealing with is the melting/ burning of metal structures.

"Metals are capable of burning under the right conditions, similarly
to the combustion process of wood or gasoline. ... A thermite reaction
is a process in which the correct mixture of metallic fuels are
combined and ignited. Ignition itself requires extremely high
temperatures."

Readers can reach their own conclusions as to the far-reaching
implications of these findings.

Although the authors do not address the broader issue of the 9/11
attacks, their findings have a direct bearing on the likely causes of
the collapse of the WTC buildings on September 11, 2001. The findings
also question the validity of the official report of the 911 Commission.

Below are selected excerpts of the article. Readers can also link to
the complete text, by clicking the link

Complete Article
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

EXCERPTS

INTRODUCTION

The destruction of three skyscrapers (WTC 1, 2 and 7) on September 11,
2001 was an immensely tragic catastrophe that not only impacted
thousands of people and families directly, due to injury and loss of
life, but also provided the motivation for numerous expensive and
radical changes in domestic and foreign policy. For these and other
reasons, knowing what really happened that fateful day is of grave
importance.

A great deal of effort has been put forth by various
government-sponsored and -funded investigations, which led, in large
part, to the reports released by FEMA [1] and NIST [2]. Other studies
of the destruction have been less well publicized but are no less
important to the outstanding obligation that remains to the victims of
that tragedy, to determine the whole truth of the events of that day
[3-10]. A number of these studies have appropriately focused
attention on the remaining physical material, and on available
photographs and video footage, as sources of evidence still in public
hands, relating to the method of destruction of the three
skyscrapers.

CONCLUSIONS

We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in significant numbers
in dust associated with the World Trade Center destruction. We have
applied SEM/XEDS and other methods to characterize the small-scale
structure and chemical signature of these chips, especially of their
red component. The red material is most interesting and has the
following characteristics:

1. It is composed of aluminum, iron, oxygen, silicon and carbon.
Lesser amounts of other potentially reactive elements are sometimes
present, such as potassium, sulfur, lead, barium and copper.

2. The primary elements (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) are typically all present
in particles at the scale of tens to hundreds of nanometers, and
detailed XEDS mapping shows intimate mixing.

3. On treatment with methyl ethyl ketone solvent, some segregation of
components occurred. Elemental aluminum became sufficiently
concentrated to be clearly identified in the pre-ignition material.

4. Iron oxide appears in faceted grains roughly 100 nm across whereas
the aluminum appears in thin platelike structures. The small size of
the iron oxide particles qualifies the material to be characterized as
nanothermite or super-thermite.

5. Analysis shows that iron and oxygen are present in a ratio
consistent with Fe2O3. The red material in all four WTC dust samples
was similar in this way. Iron oxide was found in the pre-ignition
material whereas elemental iron was not.

6. From the presence of elemental aluminum and iron oxide in the red
material, we conclude that it contains the ingredients of thermite.

7. As measured using DSC, the material ignites and reacts vigorously
at a temperature of approximately 430 °C, with a rather narrow
exotherm, matching fairly closely an independent observation on a
known super-thermite sample. The low temperature of ignition and the
presence of iron oxide grains less than 120 nm show that the material
is not conventional thermite (which ignites at temperatures above 900
°C) but very likely a form of super-thermite.

8. After igniting several red/gray chips in a DSC run to 700 °C, we
found numerous iron-rich spheres and spheroids in the residue,
indicating that a very high temperature reaction had occurred, since
the iron-rich product clearly must have been molten to form these
shapes. In several spheres, elemental iron was verified since the iron
content significantly exceeded the oxygen content. We conclude that a
high-temperature reduction-oxidation reaction has occurred in the
heated chips, namely, the thermite reaction.

9. The spheroids produced by the DSC tests and by the flame test have
an XEDS signature (Al, Fe, O, Si, C) which is depleted in carbon and
aluminum relative to the original red material. This chemical
signature strikingly matches the chemical signature of the spheroids
produced by igniting commercial thermite, and also matches the
signatures of many of the microspheres found in the WTC dust [5].

10. The carbon content of the red material indicates that an organic
substance is present. This would be expected for super-thermite
formulations in order to produce high gas pressures upon ignition and
thus make them explosive. The nature of the organic material in these
chips merits further exploration. We note that it is likely also an
energetic material, in that the total energy release sometimes
observed in DSC tests exceeds the theoretical maximum energy of the
classic thermite reaction.

Based on these observations, we conclude that the red layer of the
red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted
thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly
energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material.
(emphasis added)

Complete Article

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

Study: Scientists Discover Active Thermitic Material in WTC Dust by
researcher
Friday Apr 3rd, 2009 7:30 PM

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade
Center Catastrophe

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Victoria Ashley, STJ911 committee member
Site: www.STJ911.org
Email: stj911 at (no spam) gmail.com
Study: Scientists Discover Active Thermitic Material in WTC Dust

Berkeley, CA, April 3, 2009 -- A new study by independent scientists
and researchers suggests the cause behind the catastrophic destruction
of World Trade Center Towers on September 11th can be seen in the dust
itself: active thermitic material, a highly engineered explosive.

The study, published today in The Open Chemical Physics Journal,
describes a finding of "red/gray bi-layered chips" in samples of dust
taken from vicinity of the World Trade Center following its
destruction. Using tools such as a scanning electron microscope (SEM)
and x-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS) to analyze the
material, the study authors concluded that, "the red portion of these
chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly
energetic."

The study's finding lends new support to the demolition theory put
forth by critics of the official reports.

At a time when the American public is finding it difficult to
understand the full story behind the current economic crisis, findings
of a demolition raise new questions about how the 'War on Terror' --
an enormous source of recent American spending -- was started.

Officials with the National Institute of Standards and Technology
(NIST), charged with establishing the cause of the buildings'
destruction, have stated that they "did not test for the residue of
these compounds in the steel," and that thermite, "or another
incendiary compound," would be too difficult to have placed in the
buildings without notice.

NIST has stated that such difficulties make demolition unlikely. They
concluded that aircraft impacts and the subsequent fires led to the
building failures.

Dr. Steven Jones, physicist and author on the paper, says that NIST
has refused to test the dust for thermite, super-thermite, or any
other accelerant or explosive.

"We've repeatedly asked them to follow standard investigative
procedure, to perform these tests and release the results. They
haven't."

Jones says such tests may be required by fire protection codes.

Kevin Ryan, chemist and co-author on the paper, explained why he
thinks NIST is wrong. "What we've discovered is not conventional
thermite -- which is what NIST continues to refer to -- but a highly
engineered thermitic material, or 'super thermite', probably designed
for just this type of application."

Pre-planned demolition, supporters say, is the 'best-fit' model for
the many unusual and unexplained characteristics of the building
failures, such as the speed and symmetry of the collapses, and the
extreme pulverization of the materials leading to clouds of
micron-sized dust particles, described in one insurance report as
behaving similar to a "volcanic eruption".

"One of the unusual features that piqued my interest," Jones said,
"was the pools of molten metal seen in all three rubble piles, WTC 1,
2 & 7."

NIST officials have published a response stating that the condition of
the steel was "irrelevant to the investigation of the collapse."

Jones, formerly a Professor of Physics with Brigham Young University
and known for his work in muon-catalyzed fusion, published in Nature,
Scientific American, and the Journal of Physical Chemistry, began
researching the 9/11/01 attacks in 2005.

Jones discovered the curious thermitic material in 2007, when he ran a
magnet over a dust sample given to him by a Manhattan resident
survivor of the attack, and found that some particles were attracted
to the magnet.

"That was very odd to me," he said.

Those particles turned out to be iron-rich microspheres, partially
described in a 2001 USGS study of the dust.

But to fully analyze, describe and report on the thermitic material
would take longer.

Jones was joined in that effort by several others including Dr. Niels
Harrit, a chemistry professor with the University of Copenhagen for
over 30 years and author of numerous research papers in journals such
as Nano Letters, the Journal of the American Chemistry Society, and
the Journal of Physical Chemistry A.

Harrit says that he is frequently asked why he researches the
September 11th attack. and says has two answers.

"First, I am opposed to crime, and second, when my 6 grandchildren ask
me, 'Grandfather, which side were you on?' I will be able to answer
them, 'I was on your side'."

Co-author Dr. Jeffrey Farrer, a materials scientist and Director of
the TEM (Transmition Electron Microscopy) laboratory at BYU, says he
hopes the paper will "change the way the 9/11 truth movement is viewed
by the mainstream public and media."

And chemist and co-author Kevin Ryan, a former Underwriters
Laboratories manager, challenged the NIST report in public statements
in 2004, and was consequently fired.

"This finding really goes beyond anything that has previously been
shown," says Jones. "We had to use sophisticated tools to analyze the
dust because this isn't just a typical explosive, RDX or CD4 or
something -- this is a highly engineered material not readily
available to just anyone."

In a 2006 interview with Deseret News, Jones noted that commercial
explosives must contain tag elements for traceability, but that no law
requires tagging of advanced forms of thermitics.

In 2008, several of these authors published three articles challenging
the official reports in US scientific journals, The Open Civil
Engineering Journal, The Environmentalist, and The Journal of
Engineering Mechanics Dozens of other papers making similar challenges
have been published in the sister publication of the Scholars group,
The Journal of 9/11 Studies

Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization of
over 700 independent researchers analyzing the September 11, 2001
attacks with a strong emphasis on the scientific method.

For information: http://www.stj911.com
http://stj911.org/press_releases/ActiveThe...




Wow, so much nonsensical kooktardery in one post. I'm beginningg to get
sick so I don't have the energy to type too much tonight, so I'll sit
back and let the other sane people here have fun with you.

And laugh at you, as always, you poor bastard.





--

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
 
Bongblaster...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:16 am
Guest
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:49:33 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:
Quote:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Israel's Super-Thermite Lab
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/september-11th/68606-israels-super-thermite-lab.html
Christopher Bollyn
August 24, 2009

The crime of 9-11 is still very much at the center of the political
stage. It is the real reason why the Zionist-controlled Barack Obama
is president of the United States and why the 86-year-old Shimon Peres
is president of Israel. The lie has to be defended to protect the real
criminals. Shimon Peres, the father of Israel's nuclear arsenal, and
the Zionist criminals who helped him build nuclear weapons in the
Negev Desert are at the very center of the false-flag terrorism and
deception of 9-11. Peres' friends and Mossad agents like Arnon
Milchan, Rafi Eitan, Zvi Malkin, and Avraham Ben-Dor played crucial
roles in both 9-11 and the creation of Israel's nukes. This is not
merely coincidence.

Israel's Nuclear Research Center - Negev near Dimona develops
super-thermite films like that found in the rubble of the World Trade
Center.

Israel's secret and super-secure nuclear lab is where the extremely
powerful super-thermite of 9-11 was designed. The chief scientists
involved in the manufacturing of the nano-composite used to pulverize
the World Trade Center on 9-11 will be named in a forthcoming article
in this space.

This is the extremely powerful nano-composite used to pulverize the
World Trade Center on 9-11. This is a form of super-thermite that was
applied as a highly energetic film to the interior surfaces of the
Twin Towers.

The pyroclastic dust clouds of 9-11 looked very much like a nuclear
blast. The super-thermite that pulverized the Twin Towers was designed
at Israel's super-secret complex that manufactures nuclear weapons.



Man, you reek of kooktardery. Thermite isn't an explosive, even "Nano-
Thermite", you poor loon.

You kooktard's families are going through a tragic amount of pain, but
you 911 kooks are funny as hell. Especially when you post something as
out of touch as the above buffoonery.


God must have loved the "Kooktard." He sure made a lot of us.

Read any one of these "Kooktard" books:

"The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush
Administration and 9/11" by David Ray Griffin

"The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions"
by David Ray Griffin

"Debunking 9/11 Debunking" by David Ray Griffin

"Painful Questions: An Analysis of the September 11th Attack"
by Eric Hufschmid

"9/11 Synthetic Terror" by Webster Griffin Tarpley

"The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty" by
Jim Marrs

"Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11" by Barrie Zwicker

"Waking up from our Nightmare: The 9/11/01 Crimes in New York City" by
Don Paul and Jim Hoffman

"Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End
of the Age of Oil" by Michael C. Ruppert

"9-11 On Trial: The World Trade Center Collapse" by Victor Thorn

"9/11 101" by Eric D. Williams

"The Day America Died: Why You Shouldn't Believe the Official Story of
What Happened on September 11, 2001" by John Kaminski


War Games
CHAPTER 19 FROM "CROSSING THE RUBICON" BY MICHAEL RUPPERT

A comprehensive report on the War Games of September 11, 2001.
Read the rest of the book for much more information!



See any one of these "Kooktard" videos:

"911 Mysteries" Part 1: Demolitions" In the Wake Productions

"9/11 Blueprint for Truth" Richard Gage, AIA (Architects & Engineers
for 9/11 Truth)

"Zeitgeist" Peter Joseph

"Improbable Collapse" Mike Berger

"The Pentacon" Citizen Investigation Team

"The North Side Flyover" Citizen Investigation Team

"Zero" Giuseppe Chiesa


"The Ripple Effect" William Lewis / Dave vonKleist

"Loose Change" Dylan Avery

"9/11: The Myth and the Reality" David Ray Griffin

"Painful Deceptions" Eric Hufschmid

"September 11th Revisited" Dustin Mugford

"Pandora's Black Box: American Flight 77" Pilots For 911 Truth

"9/11 In Plane Site" Dave vonKleist

"9/11 Eyewitness" Richard Siegel / Blue Star Media Group

"One Nation Under Siege" William Lewis

"Martial Law 9-11: The Rise of the Police State" Alex Jones

"911: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold" Anthony Hilder

"Terrorstorm" Alex Jones


Visit any one of these "Kooktard" websites:

www.scholarsfor911truth.org

www.patriotsquestion911.com

www.journalof911studies.com

www.911truth.org

www.physics911.net

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk

www.911citizenswatch.org

www.911research.com

www.911inquiry.org

www.globaloutlook.ca

www.unitedfortruth.org (European group - Attend their protest on
September 7th, 2008!)

www.911proof.com

www.thepentacon.com

www.911links.org

www.whodidit.org

www.hugequestions.com

www911awakening.com

www.infowars.com

www.theultimateconspiracy.com

www.stoplying.ca

www.letsroll911.org

www.pilotsfor911truth.org

www.rense.com

www.911review.com

www.ae911truth.org (architects and engineers)

www.americanfreepress.net

www.serendipity.li

www.911truthradio.com

www.waynemadsenreport.com

www.whatreallyhappened.com

www.propagandamatrix.com

www.wtc7.net

www.911courage.org

U.S. directory of 9/11 Truth communities

International directory of 9/11 websites
 
Iarnrod...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:25 am
Guest
On Oct 30, 8:54 am, No_He_Can_Not <nohecan... at (no spam) mail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Bongblaster wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:27:33 -0400, BDK <TopSh... at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

In article <ek2je59l17qn1kkc8k6kitea3k25fpb... at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
bongblas... at (no spam) peoplepc.com says...

"9/11 conspiracy theories"
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

"...Jones has presented the hypothesis that thermite or nano thermite
was used to demolish the buildings."  
_________________________________________________

The above is a scientifically factual statement.

Nope, it's just one of many disproven claims made by people about 911.

Unreacted Nano-Thermite (A high energy pyrotechnic explosive) found in
the dust from the world trade center. Mmmm, nothing to see here, move
along!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o

come on . that thermite. It is just harmless material used in the
concrete reinforcement .

There was no thermite, pumpkin.
 
BDK...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:55 am
Guest
In article <n2eoe51mkuu5di1gdvsskff5opvv2or7lp at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
bongblaster at (no spam) peoplepc.com says...
Quote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:49:33 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Israel's Super-Thermite Lab
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/september-11th/68606-israels-super-thermite-lab.html
Christopher Bollyn
August 24, 2009

The crime of 9-11 is still very much at the center of the political
stage. It is the real reason why the Zionist-controlled Barack Obama
is president of the United States and why the 86-year-old Shimon Peres
is president of Israel. The lie has to be defended to protect the real
criminals. Shimon Peres, the father of Israel's nuclear arsenal, and
the Zionist criminals who helped him build nuclear weapons in the
Negev Desert are at the very center of the false-flag terrorism and
deception of 9-11. Peres' friends and Mossad agents like Arnon
Milchan, Rafi Eitan, Zvi Malkin, and Avraham Ben-Dor played crucial
roles in both 9-11 and the creation of Israel's nukes. This is not
merely coincidence.

Israel's Nuclear Research Center - Negev near Dimona develops
super-thermite films like that found in the rubble of the World Trade
Center.

Israel's secret and super-secure nuclear lab is where the extremely
powerful super-thermite of 9-11 was designed. The chief scientists
involved in the manufacturing of the nano-composite used to pulverize
the World Trade Center on 9-11 will be named in a forthcoming article
in this space.

This is the extremely powerful nano-composite used to pulverize the
World Trade Center on 9-11. This is a form of super-thermite that was
applied as a highly energetic film to the interior surfaces of the
Twin Towers.

The pyroclastic dust clouds of 9-11 looked very much like a nuclear
blast. The super-thermite that pulverized the Twin Towers was designed
at Israel's super-secret complex that manufactures nuclear weapons.



Man, you reek of kooktardery. Thermite isn't an explosive, even "Nano-
Thermite", you poor loon.

You kooktard's families are going through a tragic amount of pain, but
you 911 kooks are funny as hell. Especially when you post something as
out of touch as the above buffoonery.


God must have loved the "Kooktard." He sure made a lot of us.

Not so many, compared to the number of sane folks. A lot of you guys are
just feeding each other, and feeding off each other. It's pretty
comical, but shows how bad people are educated, and how messed up the
mental health system is.
Quote:

Read any one of these "Kooktard" books:

"The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush
Administration and 9/11" by David Ray Griffin

Griffin? Are you serious?

Quote:

"The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions"
by David Ray Griffin

"Debunking 9/11 Debunking" by David Ray Griffin

And in what area of science is Griffin an expert in? I guess if you
consider being a godder science...

Quote:

"Painful Questions: An Analysis of the September 11th Attack"
by Eric Hufschmid

"9/11 Synthetic Terror" by Webster Griffin Tarpley

"The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 and the Loss of Liberty" by
Jim Marrs

Ahh, Marrs, a name that screams "KOOKTARD!"

Quote:

"Towers of Deception: The Media Cover-up of 9/11" by Barrie Zwicker

"Waking up from our Nightmare: The 9/11/01 Crimes in New York City" by
Don Paul and Jim Hoffman

"Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End
of the Age of Oil" by Michael C. Ruppert

"9-11 On Trial: The World Trade Center Collapse" by Victor Thorn

"9/11 101" by Eric D. Williams

"The Day America Died: Why You Shouldn't Believe the Official Story of
What Happened on September 11, 2001" by John Kaminski


War Games
CHAPTER 19 FROM "CROSSING THE RUBICON" BY MICHAEL RUPPERT

A comprehensive report on the War Games of September 11, 2001.
Read the rest of the book for much more information!


BWHAHAHA! A "Who's who" of kooktardic authors. And there are wargames
all the time, and in the fall, there are more of them than any time of
year.

Quote:


See any one of these "Kooktard" videos:

"911 Mysteries" Part 1: Demolitions" In the Wake Productions

"9/11 Blueprint for Truth" Richard Gage, AIA (Architects & Engineers
for 9/11 Truth)

"Zeitgeist" Peter Joseph

"Improbable Collapse" Mike Berger

"The Pentacon" Citizen Investigation Team

"The North Side Flyover" Citizen Investigation Team

"Zero" Giuseppe Chiesa


"The Ripple Effect" William Lewis / Dave vonKleist

"Loose Change" Dylan Avery

"9/11: The Myth and the Reality" David Ray Griffin

"Painful Deceptions" Eric Hufschmid

"September 11th Revisited" Dustin Mugford

"Pandora's Black Box: American Flight 77" Pilots For 911 Truth

"9/11 In Plane Site" Dave vonKleist

"9/11 Eyewitness" Richard Siegel / Blue Star Media Group

"One Nation Under Siege" William Lewis

"Martial Law 9-11: The Rise of the Police State" Alex Jones

"911: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold" Anthony Hilder

"Terrorstorm" Alex Jones



I've seen most of those, pretty funny, actually. The teachers of the
people who made them must be mortified to see the insane nonsense their
former students are peddling as science. Hopefully, none of these poor
whackjobs will ever get put on a jury, as they don't appear to
understand much of what made the buildings collapse.


A whole lot of kooky, funny stuff there. In about half of them, at
least, the poor kook posting it can't even read a stopwatch to tell how
long it took for WTC7 to come down.

Tragic. But funny as hell.

--

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
 
I, Enemy Combatant...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:43 pm
Guest
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:55:20 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

Quote:
A whole lot of kooky, funny stuff there. In about half of them, at
least, the poor kook posting it can't even read a stopwatch to tell how
long it took for WTC7 to come down.

Tragic. But funny as hell.

Pray tell, what are your credentials, Mr. Pig Spammer?

Quote:
BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.

Oh yeah, a Jew on the CIA payroll.

Your credibility is the same as mine: ZERO.
 
BDK...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:17 pm
Guest
In article <sqvoe5hknrmd7d2o62ms5aoq89a84kledj at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
antisemite at (no spam) battlefield.usa says...
Quote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:55:20 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

A whole lot of kooky, funny stuff there. In about half of them, at
least, the poor kook posting it can't even read a stopwatch to tell how
long it took for WTC7 to come down.

Tragic. But funny as hell.

Pray tell, what are your credentials, Mr. Pig Spammer?

LOL, my credentials are simply being a sane person who has a pretty
decent all around understanding of basic science. That's more than
enough to see how ridiculous your claims are. You have no idea how crazy
your claims are, and that's what makes you so f'in funny.

Quote:

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.

Oh yeah, a Jew on the CIA payroll.

Wow, what is it with you kooks and accusing people of being jews all the
time? Sorry, but I'm still, and always have been French(Catholic),
Polish(More Catholics), Irish (Protestant), and probably Native
American. No jews in the bunch going back to 1800, as far as the trail
leads. And you thinking I'm on any government payroll is even more
insane than your thinking I'm a jew.

Quote:

Your credibility is the same as mine: ZERO.

Maybe, except for one thing. I've been telling you kooks to talk to a
real expert, an engineer, for years, you tell me to read kookpages full
of nonsense.

Huge difference.

Rave on, kooktard, rave on..
--

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
 
I, Enemy Combatant...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:55 pm
Guest
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:17:22 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

Quote:
Rave on, kooktard, rave on..
--

Thanks, Hymie. I will.

Quote:
BDK..
Leader of the Hebrew paid shills.
Jew Club founding member.
Number one Kook Pig Spammer.

"KOOK! KOOK! KOOK!" the squealing of an inbred spook.

I liked it better when you CIA pig-spammers called me an
"anti-Semite." I deserved it.

Zionist CIA pigs get rich off the blood of Americans.

God's favorite Hebrew Hell awaits your federal brood of vipers

a.k.a. the c.i.a.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly into the
CIA’s Highest Ranks

http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html

CIA Executive Director “Buzzy” Krongard managed firm that handled
“PUT” options on United Airline Stock

by Michael C. Ruppert

FTW - October 9, 2001 – Although uniformly ignored by the mainstream
U.S. media, there is abundant and clear evidence that a number of
transactions in financial markets indicated specific (criminal)
foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center
and the Pentagon. In the case of at least one of these trades -- which
has left a $2.5 million prize unclaimed -- the firm used to place the
“put options” on United Airlines stock was, until 1998, managed by the
man who is now in the number three Executive Director position at the
Central Intelligence Agency.

Until 1997 A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard had been Chairman of the investment
bank A.B. Brown. A.B. Brown was acquired by Banker’s Trust in 1997.
Krongard then became, as part of the merger, Vice Chairman of Banker’s
Trust-AB Brown, one of 20 major U.S. banks named by Senator Carl Levin
this year as being connected to money laundering. Krongard’s last
position at Banker’s Trust (BT) was to oversee “private client
relations.” In this capacity he had direct hands-on relations with
some of the wealthiest people in the world in a kind of specialized
banking operation that has been identified by the U.S. Senate and
other investigators as being closely connected to the laundering of
drug money.

Krongard joined the CIA in 1998 as counsel to CIA Director George
Tenet. He was promoted to CIA Executive Director by President Bush in
March of this year. BT was acquired by Deutsche Bank in 1999. The
combined firm is the single largest bank in Europe. And, as we shall
see, Deutsche Bank played several key roles in events connected to the
September 11 attacks.

THE SCOPE OF KNOWN INSIDER TRADING

Before looking further into these relationships it is necessary to
look at the insider trading information that is being ignored by
Reuters, The New York Times and other mass media. It is well
documented that the CIA has long monitored such trades – in real time
– as potential warnings of terrorist attacks and other economic moves
contrary to U.S. interests. Previous stories in FTW have specifically
highlighted the use of Promis software to monitor such trades.

It is necessary to understand only two key financial terms to
understand the significance of these trades, “selling short” and “put
options”.

“Selling Short” is the borrowing of stock, selling it at current
market prices, but not being required to actually produce the stock
for some time. If the stock falls precipitously after the short
contract is entered, the seller can then fulfill the contract by
buying the stock after the price has fallen and complete the contract
at the pre-crash price. These contracts often have a window of as long
as four months.

“Put Options,” are contracts giving the buyer the option to sell
stocks at a later date. Purchased at nominal prices of, for example,
$1.00 per share, they are sold in blocks of 100 shares. If exercised,
they give the holder the option of selling selected stocks at a future
date at a price set when the contract is issued. Thus, for an
investment of $10,000 it might be possible to tie up 10,000 shares of
United or American Airlines at $100 per share, and the seller of the
option is then obligated to buy them if the option is executed. If the
stock has fallen to $50 when the contract matures, the holder of the
option can purchase the shares for $50 and immediately sell them for
$100 – regardless of where the market then stands. A call option is
the reverse of a put option, which is, in effect, a derivatives bet
that the stock price will go up.

A September 21 story by the Israeli Herzliyya International Policy
Institute for Counterterrorism, entitled “Black Tuesday: The World’s
Largest Insider Trading Scam?” documented the following trades
connected to the September 11 attacks:

- Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options
Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but
only 396 call options… Assuming that 4,000 of the options were bought
by people with advance knowledge of the imminent attacks, these
“insiders” would have profited by almost $5 million.

- On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were
bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 calls. Again,
there was no news at that point to justify this imbalance;… Again,
assuming that 4,000 of these options trades represent “insiders,” they
would represent a gain of about $4 million.

- [The levels of put options purchased above were more than six
times higher than normal.]

- No similar trading in other airlines occurred on the Chicago
exchange in the days immediately preceding Black Tuesday.

- Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., which occupied 22 floors of
the World Trade Center, saw 2,157 of its October $45 put options
bought in the three trading days before Black Tuesday; this compares
to an average of 27 contracts per day before September 6. Morgan
Stanley’s share price fell from $48.90 to $42.50 in the aftermath of
the attacks. Assuming that 2,000 of these options contracts were
bought based upon knowledge of the approaching attacks, their
purchasers could have profited by at least $1.2 million. Merrill Lynch
& Co., with headquarters near the Twin Towers, saw 12,215 October $45
put options bought in the four trading days before the attacks; the
previous average volume in those shares had been 252 contracts per day
[a 1200% increase!]. When trading resumed, Merrill’s shares fell from
$46.88 to $41.50; assuming that 11,000 option contracts were bought by
“insiders,” their profit would have been about $5.5 million.

- European regulators are examining trades in Germany’s Munich
Re, Switzerland’s Swiss Re, and AXA of France, all major reinsurers
with exposure to the Black Tuesday disaster. [FTW Note: AXA also owns
more than 25% of American Airlines stock making the attacks a “double
whammy” for them.]

On September 29, 2001 – in a vital story that has gone unnoticed by
the major media – the San Francisco Chronicle reported, “Investors
have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made
trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11,
terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and
market data.

“The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors – whose
identities and nationalities have not been made public – had advance
knowledge of the strikes.” They don’t dare show up now. The suspension
of trading for four days after the attacks made it impossible to
cash-out quickly and claim the prize before investigators started
looking.

“… October series options for UAL Corp. were purchased in highly
unusual volumes three trading days before the terrorist attacks for a
total outlay of $2,070; investors bought the option contracts, each
representing 100 shares, for 90 cents each. [This represents 230,000
shares]. Those options are now selling at more than $12 each. There
are still 2,313 so-called “put” options outstanding [valued at $2.77
million and representing 231,300 shares] according to the Options
Clearinghouse Corp.”

“…The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank
Alex. Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant
Deutsche Bank, as the investment bank used to purchase at least some
of these options…” This was the operation managed by Krongard until as
recently as 1998.

As reported in other news stories, Deutsche Bank was also the hub of
insider trading activity connected to Munich Re. just before the
attacks.

CIA, THE BANKS AND THE BROKERS

Understanding the interrelationships between CIA and the banking and
brokerage world is critical to grasping the already frightening
implications of the above revelations. Let’s look at the history of
CIA, Wall Street and the big banks by looking at some of the key
players in CIA’s history.

Clark Clifford – The National Security Act of 1947 was written by
Clark Clifford, a Democratic Party powerhouse, former Secretary of
Defense, and one-time advisor to President Harry Truman. In the 1980s,
as Chairman of First American Bancshares, Clifford was instrumental in
getting the corrupt CIA drug bank BCCI a license to operate on
American shores. His profession: Wall Street lawyer and banker.

John Foster and Allen Dulles – These two brothers “designed” the CIA
for Clifford. Both were active in intelligence operations during WW
II. Allen Dulles was the U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland where he met
frequently with Nazi leaders and looked after U.S. investments in
Germany. John Foster went on to become Secretary of State under Dwight
Eisenhower and Allen went on to serve as CIA Director under Eisenhower
and was later fired by JFK. Their professions: partners in the most
powerful - to this day - Wall Street law firm of Sullivan, Cromwell.

Bill Casey – Ronald Reagan’s CIA Director and OSS veteran who served
as chief wrangler during the Iran-Contra years was, under President
Richard Nixon, Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. His
profession: Wall Street lawyer and stockbroker.

David Doherty - The current Vice President of the New York Stock
Exchange for enforcement is the retired General Counsel of the Central
Intelligence Agency.

George Herbert Walker Bush – President from 1989 to January 1993, also
served as CIA Director for 13 months from 1976-7. He is now a paid
consultant to the Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor
in the nation, which also shares joint investments with the bin Laden
family.

A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard – The current Executive Director of the Central
Intelligence Agency is the former Chairman of the investment bank A.B.
Brown and former Vice Chairman of Banker’s Trust.

John Deutch - This retired CIA Director from the Clinton
Administration currently sits on the board at Citigroup, the nation’s
second largest bank, which has been repeatedly and overtly involved in
the documented laundering of drug money. This includes Citigroup’s
2001 purchase of a Mexican bank known to launder drug money, Banamex.

Nora Slatkin – This retired CIA Executive Director also sits on
Citibank’s board.

Maurice “Hank” Greenburg – The CEO of AIG insurance, manager of the
third largest capital investment pool in the world, was floated as a
possible CIA Director in 1995. FTW exposed Greenberg’s and AIG’s long
connection to CIA drug trafficking and covert operations in a two-part
series that was interrupted just prior to the attacks of September 11.
AIG’s stock has bounced back remarkably well since the attacks. To
read that story, please go to
http://www.copvcia.com/stories/part_2.html.

One wonders how much damning evidence is necessary to respond to what
is now irrefutable proof that CIA knew about the attacks and did not
stop them. Whatever our government is doing, whatever the CIA is
doing, it is clearly NOT in the interests of the American people,
especially those who died on September 11.

[© COPYRIGHT, 2001, Michael C. Ruppert and FTW Publications,
www.copvcia.com. All Rights Reserved. – May be reprinted or
distributed for non-profit purposes only.]
 
BDK...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 7:35 pm
Guest
In article <ioire596kmdo06cidli254bpr7580h2c88 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
antisemite at (no spam) battlefield.usa says...
Quote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 01:17:22 -0400, BDK <TopShill at (no spam) sanity.com> wrote:

Rave on, kooktard, rave on..
--

Thanks, Hymie. I will.

BWHAHAHAHAHA!


You can't even seem to get the ethnic/religious insults correct.

Valid ones would be:

Snail eating surrender monkeys. For my French ancestors.
Polock. Obvious, or it should be, even for you.
Potato obsessed drunk. I don't really drink, but a lot of my
Grandmother's brothers, actually both of them, were truly messed up
drunks. The Gallagher boys were known to all the local police
departments. And not known for good things.
Redskin savage. Because great great grandma was probably native
American.

Hymie would be a good insult for a jew, moron.

Quote:

BDK..
Leader of the Hebrew paid shills.
Jew Club founding member.
Number one Kook Pig Spammer.

"KOOK! KOOK! KOOK!" the squealing of an inbred spook.

It fits.

Quote:

I liked it better when you CIA pig-spammers called me an
"anti-Semite." I deserved it.

Do you actually believe I work for the CIA? If I really did, you should
be scared shitless, as what would keep me from calling someone to "take
care" of you? Yet, you kooks keep breathing, and posting.

And we sane people keep laughing.

Quote:

Zionist CIA pigs get rich off the blood of Americans.

You aren't rich, and not much of an American, so you don't have to
worry. Much.

Quote:

God's favorite Hebrew Hell awaits your federal brood of vipers

a.k.a. the c.i.a.

BWHAHAHAHAHAAHA! You batshit crazy loon. Please, rave on.

Quote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

Suppressed Details of Criminal Insider Trading Lead Directly into the
CIA?s Highest Ranks

http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html

CIA Executive Director ?Buzzy? Krongard managed firm that handled
?PUT? options on United Airline Stock

by Michael C. Ruppert

FTW - October 9, 2001 ? Although uniformly ignored by the mainstream
U.S. media, there is abundant and clear evidence that a number of
transactions in financial markets indicated specific (criminal)
foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center
and the Pentagon. In the case of at least one of these trades -- which
has left a $2.5 million prize unclaimed -- the firm used to place the
?put options? on United Airlines stock was, until 1998, managed by the
man who is now in the number three Executive Director position at the
Central Intelligence Agency.

Until 1997 A.B. ?Buzzy? Krongard had been Chairman of the investment
bank A.B. Brown. A.B. Brown was acquired by Banker?s Trust in 1997.
Krongard then became, as part of the merger, Vice Chairman of Banker?s
Trust-AB Brown, one of 20 major U.S. banks named by Senator Carl Levin
this year as being connected to money laundering. Krongard?s last
position at Banker?s Trust (BT) was to oversee ?private client
relations.? In this capacity he had direct hands-on relations with
some of the wealthiest people in the world in a kind of specialized
banking operation that has been identified by the U.S. Senate and
other investigators as being closely connected to the laundering of
drug money.

Krongard joined the CIA in 1998 as counsel to CIA Director George
Tenet. He was promoted to CIA Executive Director by President Bush in
March of this year. BT was acquired by Deutsche Bank in 1999. The
combined firm is the single largest bank in Europe. And, as we shall
see, Deutsche Bank played several key roles in events connected to the
September 11 attacks.

THE SCOPE OF KNOWN INSIDER TRADING

Before looking further into these relationships it is necessary to
look at the insider trading information that is being ignored by
Reuters, The New York Times and other mass media. It is well
documented that the CIA has long monitored such trades ? in real time
? as potential warnings of terrorist attacks and other economic moves
contrary to U.S. interests. Previous stories in FTW have specifically
highlighted the use of Promis software to monitor such trades.

It is necessary to understand only two key financial terms to
understand the significance of these trades, ?selling short? and ?put
options?.

?Selling Short? is the borrowing of stock, selling it at current
market prices, but not being required to actually produce the stock
for some time. If the stock falls precipitously after the short
contract is entered, the seller can then fulfill the contract by
buying the stock after the price has fallen and complete the contract
at the pre-crash price. These contracts often have a window of as long
as four months.

?Put Options,? are contracts giving the buyer the option to sell
stocks at a later date. Purchased at nominal prices of, for example,
$1.00 per share, they are sold in blocks of 100 shares. If exercised,
they give the holder the option of selling selected stocks at a future
date at a price set when the contract is issued. Thus, for an
investment of $10,000 it might be possible to tie up 10,000 shares of
United or American Airlines at $100 per share, and the seller of the
option is then obligated to buy them if the option is executed. If the
stock has fallen to $50 when the contract matures, the holder of the
option can purchase the shares for $50 and immediately sell them for
$100 ? regardless of where the market then stands. A call option is
the reverse of a put option, which is, in effect, a derivatives bet
that the stock price will go up.

A September 21 story by the Israeli Herzliyya International Policy
Institute for Counterterrorism, entitled ?Black Tuesday: The World?s
Largest Insider Trading Scam?? documented the following trades
connected to the September 11 attacks:

- Between September 6 and 7, the Chicago Board Options
Exchange saw purchases of 4,744 put options on United Airlines, but
only 396 call options? Assuming that 4,000 of the options were bought
by people with advance knowledge of the imminent attacks, these
?insiders? would have profited by almost $5 million.

- On September 10, 4,516 put options on American Airlines were
bought on the Chicago exchange, compared to only 748 calls. Again,
there was no news at that point to justify this imbalance;? Again,
assuming that 4,000 of these options trades represent ?insiders,? they
would represent a gain of about $4 million.

- [The levels of put options purchased above were more than six
times higher than normal.]

- No similar trading in other airlines occurred on the Chicago
exchange in the days immediately preceding Black Tuesday.

- Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., which occupied 22 floors of
the World Trade Center, saw 2,157 of its October $45 put options
bought in the three trading days before Black Tuesday; this compares
to an average of 27 contracts per day before September 6. Morgan
Stanley?s share price fell from $48.90 to $42.50 in the aftermath of
the attacks. Assuming that 2,000 of these options contracts were
bought based upon knowledge of the approaching attacks, their
purchasers could have profited by at least $1.2 million. Merrill Lynch
& Co., with headquarters near the Twin Towers, saw 12,215 October $45
put options bought in the four trading days before the attacks; the
previous average volume in those shares had been 252 contracts per day
[a 1200% increase!]. When trading resumed, Merrill?s shares fell from
$46.88 to $41.50; assuming that 11,000 option contracts were bought by
?insiders,? their profit would have been about $5.5 million.

- European regulators are examining trades in Germany?s Munich
Re, Switzerland?s Swiss Re, and AXA of France, all major reinsurers
with exposure to the Black Tuesday disaster. [FTW Note: AXA also owns
more than 25% of American Airlines stock making the attacks a ?double
whammy? for them.]

On September 29, 2001 ? in a vital story that has gone unnoticed by
the major media ? the San Francisco Chronicle reported, ?Investors
have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made
trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11,
terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and
market data.

?The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors ? whose
identities and nationalities have not been made public ? had advance
knowledge of the strikes.? They don?t dare show up now. The suspension
of trading for four days after the attacks made it impossible to
cash-out quickly and claim the prize before investigators started
looking.

?? October series options for UAL Corp. were purchased in highly
unusual volumes three trading days before the terrorist attacks for a
total outlay of $2,070; investors bought the option contracts, each
representing 100 shares, for 90 cents each. [This represents 230,000
shares]. Those options are now selling at more than $12 each. There
are still 2,313 so-called ?put? options outstanding [valued at $2.77
million and representing 231,300 shares] according to the Options
Clearinghouse Corp.?

??The source familiar with the United trades identified Deutsche Bank
Alex. Brown, the American investment banking arm of German giant
Deutsche Bank, as the investment bank used to purchase at least some
of these options?? This was the operation managed by Krongard until as
recently as 1998.

As reported in other news stories, Deutsche Bank was also the hub of
insider trading activity connected to Munich Re. just before the
attacks.

CIA, THE BANKS AND THE BROKERS

Understanding the interrelationships between CIA and the banking and
brokerage world is critical to grasping the already frightening
implications of the above revelations. Let?s look at the history of
CIA, Wall Street and the big banks by looking at some of the key
players in CIA?s history.

Clark Clifford ? The National Security Act of 1947 was written by
Clark Clifford, a Democratic Party powerhouse, former Secretary of
Defense, and one-time advisor to President Harry Truman. In the 1980s,
as Chairman of First American Bancshares, Clifford was instrumental in
getting the corrupt CIA drug bank BCCI a license to operate on
American shores. His profession: Wall Street lawyer and banker.

John Foster and Allen Dulles ? These two brothers ?designed? the CIA
for Clifford. Both were active in intelligence operations during WW
II. Allen Dulles was the U.S. Ambassador to Switzerland where he met
frequently with Nazi leaders and looked after U.S. investments in
Germany. John Foster went on to become Secretary of State under Dwight
Eisenhower and Allen went on to serve as CIA Director under Eisenhower
and was later fired by JFK. Their professions: partners in the most
powerful - to this day - Wall Street law firm of Sullivan, Cromwell.

Bill Casey ? Ronald Reagan?s CIA Director and OSS veteran who served
as chief wrangler during the Iran-Contra years was, under President
Richard Nixon, Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission. His
profession: Wall Street lawyer and stockbroker.

David Doherty - The current Vice President of the New York Stock
Exchange for enforcement is the retired General Counsel of the Central
Intelligence Agency.

George Herbert Walker Bush ? President from 1989 to January 1993, also
served as CIA Director for 13 months from 1976-7. He is now a paid
consultant to the Carlyle Group, the 11th largest defense contractor
in the nation, which also shares joint investments with the bin Laden
family.

A.B. ?Buzzy? Krongard ? The current Executive Director of the Central
Intelligence Agency is the former Chairman of the investment bank A.B.
Brown and former Vice Chairman of Banker?s Trust.

John Deutch - This retired CIA Director from the Clinton
Administration currently sits on the board at Citigroup, the nation?s
second largest bank, which has been repeatedly and overtly involved in
the documented laundering of drug money. This includes Citigroup?s
2001 purchase of a Mexican bank known to launder drug money, Banamex.

Nora Slatkin ? This retired CIA Executive Director also sits on
Citibank?s board.

Maurice ?Hank? Greenburg ? The CEO of AIG insurance, manager of the
third largest capital investment pool in the world, was floated as a
possible CIA Director in 1995. FTW exposed Greenberg?s and AIG?s long
connection to CIA drug trafficking and covert operations in a two-part
series that was interrupted just prior to the attacks of September 11.
AIG?s stock has bounced back remarkably well since the attacks. To
read that story, please go to
http://www.copvcia.com/stories/part_2.html.

One wonders how much damning evidence is necessary to respond to what
is now irrefutable proof that CIA knew about the attacks and did not
stop them. Whatever our government is doing, whatever the CIA is
doing, it is clearly NOT in the interests of the American people,
especially those who died on September 11.

[© COPYRIGHT, 2001, Michael C. Ruppert and FTW Publications,
www.copvcia.com. All Rights Reserved. ? May be reprinted or
distributed for non-profit purposes only.]





--

BDK..
Leader of the nonexistent paid shills.
Non Jew Jew Club founding member.
Former number one Kook Magnet, title passed to Iarnrod.
 
 
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