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| Raymond Karczewski... |
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Forgery committed by Government/Media, Internet Disinformation Agent
EDGAR WOLPHE
SpamTrap at (no spam) spamcop.com (Edgar Wolphe) wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arkent3 at (no spam) earthlink.net) wrote:
ew: > Furiously scratching in the sand, arke... at (no spam) frontier.com
(Raymond
-.rk: >> I wrote NO SUCH STATEMENT. Google that statement. Check
out the article Threads they appear in and you will see they
originally arise in WOLPHE'S responses to my original articles--NO
WHERE ELSE.
ew: > Oh Dear- Ray doesn't like my sig. Not at ALL!
QUOTE:
ew: > No one in history, since the beginning of recorded time, has
written directly, based on first hand understanding, as I have,
including Jesus of Nazareth.
--Raymond Ronald Karczewski
rk: Now you claim it to be your sig line. Is so, why attach my name
to it? It was clearly intended to be displayed as a sig line --
Mine!. That is what I responded to when I wrote "they originally
arise in WOLPHE'S responses to my original articles--NO WHERE ELSE."
If one scours my website they will find thousands of words and
hundreds of articles. To select a line or paragraph from a
communication written only once 4 years ago and never again repeated
but expect one to have 100% recall of it is an impossibility. Yet
that is what you disinformation yahoos thrive on -- isolating
statements taken out of context and holding it up as
a discrediting device. Where in all of your responses have you ever
challenged my message, or attempted to discredit it. The evidence
will show in the Google Archives that your whole purpose and that of
your disinformation associates has been to stalk my writing and attack
the messenger.
rk: Every conceivable libelous approach has been used by you and your
government/media disinformation associates to destroy the reputation
of this messenger without any attempt to address the message.
See:http://www.arkenterprises.com/disinfo.html
ew: > Lesee, just what was it that Ray wrote?
Oh yeah... Ray said (see above quoted post)
ew: > " I wrote NO SUCH STATEMENT." (emphasis Ray's) . That's LIE
number 1, as you now freely admit (indeed, you had no choice) that you
actually DID write it.
rk: Only after seeing it archived. Beyond that I had no
recollection of it when I originally made the statement." I wrote NO
SUCH STATEMENT". Do you have 100% recall of every word you have
uttered or written throughout your lifetime? Do not hold another to
standard that you yourself are incapable of possessing.
ew: > And that is LIE NUMBER 2. I never said or implied at any
time that it was one of *your* sigs.
rk: So what would be your purpose or motive of using another's
statement as your personal sig line" Careful, you are stepping into
the doo doo contained in the old Adage, "Oh what a web we weave when
first we practice to deceive.
rk: Just what contributions have you made to the newsgroups in all of
your time and effort spent on USENET. Without attacking me and
others on the newsgroups I post to,, you display that you have nothing
really to say or contribute yourself, .Pathetic would be a step up for
you..
ew: > I certainly have used it often as one of MY sigs (and I have
you to thank for it!), but I am quite sure that you never used it
yourself. You did, however, make that statement and I have quoted it
verbatim.
rk: You face-saving attempt does not wash, does it.
ew: < Well, lets see what Ray is trying to do here. First he
claimed he never wrote that line, which, obviously, is a flat out lie.
rk: Lack of recollection does not constitute a lie, does it.
ew: > When that was lie was exposed, he then claimed that I said
it was one of his sig lines, which was another lie.
rk: Pay attention folks to how these wordtwisting disinformation
slimeballs operate. A lie requires deliberate intent to deceive.
Look at the words of WOLPHE and myself. Who is working overtime
to attack another? I merely mirror WOLPHE'S words back to him. that
is sufficient to determine culpability, is it not?
ew: > Then, as if he knew full well that the above two lies weren't
gonna fly, he claimed "out of context"!
rk: Careful WOLPHE, you're gonna have a hernia with such deceptive
effort at word twisting.
rk: If you don't like what I write, why read it? Is it not because
it IS YOUR JOB?
ew: > Gee Ray, you really cannot help contradicting yourself at
every turn, can you!
rk: Show me a real, bonafide contradiction of mine, even in this
article. I have explained that lack of recollection does not and will
not ever constitute a lie. I was clear in myself that I NEVER used
such statement as my sig line, The rest are your befuddled efforts
at deception.
ew: > The "Full Context" has been left in below for the discerning
reader to evaluate.
rk; Indeed evaluate it.
ew: > Meanwhile, please note the tactics employed by Ray to try and
wriggle out of this pickle he created, ie; twist, distort, misdirect,
libel, slander, attack, in order to muddy the waters, confuse and
confound undiscerning readers.
ew: > Since your "truth" has just been totally exposed as lies,
contradictions and misdirection, I'd say that line of yours needs a
wee bit more work.
rk: WOLPHE, you've exposed no one's lies by your own. Hell, isn't
it?
rk: >> By the way, WOLPHE, do you wish to tell the public what you
do for a living along with your alliances with goverment and media?
ew: > Tell ya what, Ray- When you decide to finally follow YOUR
RULES about canceling ALL contracts with the government, I'll gladly
fill you in.Cancel your Social Security Contract and give up your
monthly dole, cancel your PERS account and refuse those checks (that
also come via a government contract), and tear up and cancel your
Medicare/Medicaid card (more government contracts). Accept the rules
YOU set down that all True Soveregns MUST follow, instead of being
such a blatant hypocrite.
rk: All that has been done. The evidence is found in my writing. By
changing my Lawful status to Sovereign/Ccreditor from my former legal
status as a 14th Amendment slave/human resource/debtor all assets
directed to the Trademark/tradename, which previously went to the
Creditor government now come to me, the Creditor, Secured Party, and
holder in due course with Supreme claim over the debtor/juristic
person. God indeed, works in mysterious ways, does He not?.
ew: Do that, and we can talk.
rk: You are not worthy of my time, other than to expose the likes of
you and your agenda to the many undiscerning readers, incapable of
discernment.
EW
ew: > No one in history, since the beginning of recorded time, has
written directly, based on first hand understanding, as I have,
including Jesus of Nazareth.
--Raymond Ronald Karczewski
rk: There you go again. I guess one cannot teach an old dog, new
tricks. Once again, you show just how pathetic an individual you
really are.
Raymond Ronald Karczewski©
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"No other man but I in the recorded History of
mankind, including JESUS CHRIST, has directly
revealed to the World the SATANIC WEAPON used to
enslave mankind -- INTELLECTUAL THOUGHT!!"
Raymond Ronald Karczewski© http://www.arkenterprises.com |
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