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Somebody Talked...
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:53 am
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(To an atheist, all religions are cults, some more evil than others.)

It is a known fact: A Christian did the anthrax attack and blamed it
on Muslims. That's off the FBI's website, so it's official.

Therefore, either Christians did 9-11 and blamed it on Muslims, or
Jews did 9-11 and blamed it on Muslims, or the Muslims did 9-11 and
blamed it on themselves.

(Atheists are evil enough to do 9-11, but we're too unorganized to
pull it off, cover our tracks, and blame it on God.)

Two crimes of the century started two wars, but nobody went to jail
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=111821
 
drahcir...
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:33 am
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On Sep 3, 7:53 am, Somebody Talked <FBIinform... at (no spam) amerithrax.sux>
wrote:
Quote:
(To an atheist, all religions are cults, some more evil than others.)

It is a known fact:  A Christian did the anthrax attack and blamed it
on Muslims.  That's off the FBI's website, so it's official.

Therefore, either Christians did 9-11 and blamed it on Muslims, or
Jews did 9-11 and blamed it on Muslims, or the Muslims did 9-11 and
blamed it on themselves.  

Hmm, "therefore" implies causality. Please show the causality between
your first statement and your second. If you can't, you will simply
admit your are as stupid as a stone.
Quote:

(Atheists are evil enough to do 9-11, but we're too unorganized to
pull it off, cover our tracks, and blame it on God.)

Two crimes of the century started two wars, but nobody went to jailhttp://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=111821
 
I, Enemy Combatant...
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:03 am
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On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 22:16:18 -0700, Alan Ford <zzz.zzz at (no spam) qqq.net> wrote:

Quote:
I, Enemy Combatant wrote:
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:31:59 -0700, Alan Ford <zzz.zzz at (no spam) qqq.net> wrote:

I, Enemy Combatant wrote:
On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 22:45:45 -0700, Alan Ford <zzz.zzz at (no spam) qqq.net> wrote:

Somebody Talked wrote:
(To an atheist, all religions are cults, some more evil than others.)

It is a known fact: A Christian did the anthrax attack and blamed it
on Muslims. That's off the FBI's website, so it's official.
WTF? It's never been proven that this "Christian did the anthrax attack"
to begin with. There are entirely too many convenient suicides in this
whole 9/11 to Iraq saga to be coincidental.
Second, there is a laundry list of shit that was "official" because it
was announced by the FBI, yet turned out to be falsehoods and lies later.

Therefore, either Christians did 9-11 and blamed it on Muslims, or
Jews did 9-11 and blamed it on Muslims, or the Muslims did 9-11 and
blamed it on themselves.
WTF2? The names of the perps who have done the 9/11 attacks is well
known. They were all Muslims. What's your next conspiracy? NASA faked
the Moon landing in order to fool the non-vaccinated babies into
thinking Obama was born in the US?

(Atheists are evil enough to do 9-11, but we're too unorganized to
pull it off, cover our tracks, and blame it on God.)
Attaboy, save the smelliest shit for last.
I saved the smelliest shit for last, but a Jew snipped it off for his
own personal consumption. Here it is again in case you missed it.

Two crimes of the century started two wars, but nobody went to jail
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=111821

Ah, yes, I am now "a Jew". And why am I a Jew, one might ask? Why,
because I don't get an instant erection and start squirting sperm all
over my desk two seconds after reading some amateurishly written
"investigative reporting" blog that brings us all shocking news about
how the US is under the influence of a Jewish lobby. Stop the fucking
presses!!! Next article: the US politics is paid for and run by the
corporate America. Mind-blowing!

I went to your little smelly shit link and found nothing of interest
there, let alone anything that remotely resembles what you call "two
crimes of the century [that] started two wars". What two crimes might
that be?

The website didn't have a name, so I had to give it one.

One of the two "crimes of the century" I refereed to:

Please note:
Dr. Ivins was not arrested so: NOBODY WENT TO JAIL.

US Mail contaminated with weaponized anthrax spores
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as
Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name,
occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on September 18,
2001. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news
media offices and two Democratic U.S. Senators, killing five people
and infecting 17 others. The primary suspect was not publicly
identified until 2008.

In mid-2008, the FBI narrowed its focus to Bruce Edwards Ivins, a
scientist who worked at the government's biodefense labs at Fort
Detrick in Frederick, Maryland. Ivins was told of the impending
prosecution and on July 27 committed suicide, by an overdose of
acetaminophen.[1]

On August 6, 2008, federal prosecutors declared Ivins to be the sole
culprit of the crime.[2] Two days later, Sen. Charles Grassley and
Rep. Rush Holt called for hearings into the DOJ and FBI's handling of
the investigation.[3]

Why is this a crime of the century, exactly? And how convenient that he
"committed suicide", huh? Of course, he had a perfect motive for the
anthrax attacks, which was, uhm, err... uuhm...


========================================

This is the other "crime of the century" I refereed to.

Again, please note: NOBODY WENT TO JAIL.

(If you can, please name someone who went to jail for doing it.)

September 11 attacks

OK, a terrorist act, still how do you declare something to be a crime of
the century when the century had barely begun. We're only 9 years into
it and already you made a top ten list of crimes of the 21st century?
Impressive.


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Both crimes were used as justification by my government to attack two
countries: Afghanistan and Iraq. Two countries - two wars.

That is the basis for my assertion:

"Two crimes of the century started two wars, but nobody went to jail."

OK, I get it. I forgot it was the International Banal Statement Day.

Btw, those two crimes did not start two wars. The limited Afghanistan
operation can barely be considered a police action on the part of the US
Army and the Iraq invasion would have happened either way - it would
have been just a slightly harder sell, that's all. The Iraq invasion
plans were in existence long before the 9/11.


Just because you don't understand my ways, doesn't make *me* confused.

Yeah, I know all of that. I've been reading the newsgroups every day
for the last eleven years.

I'm not trying to establish credibility, or educate anybody, or post
factual statements; I'm flaming the FBI, in an abstract way. That's
who my posts are directed to: my pathetic excuse for a government.

"Nobody went to jail" is embarrassing to the FBI 9-11 cover-up
artists. THEY know what I'm talking about.

I hope you have you-tube. Check this out. Just the first part: Jesse
Ventura.

"NOBODY WENT TO JAIL FOR 9-11 terrorism, anthrax or wtc.

Very strange indeed! (not really)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZShA4nc4qc


I may be banal and anal , but I try to be Abstract, like a poem:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

F rame B ruce I vins
http://www.fbi.gov/anthrax/amerithraxlinks.htm

Anthraxgate

Do you wonder sometimes how a man can endure
Knowing that he's a provocateur
Like Robert Mueller leaks to a media shill
Who ruined the Professor, Steven Hatfill
But among the cases one might consider a curse
Agents labor at one that is probably worse
Harassing anyone they think it might be
And convicting Dr. Ivins for his poetry
Should the agents confess, they'd be roundly hated
By all those they lied to and manipulated
But somehow they cope with their private disgrace
Of frame-up artists on the Amerithrax case


#########################################

The FBI-Patsy-Twins, Doctor Ivins and Doctor Mikesell (*)

The FBI-Patsy-Twins, Doctor Ivins and Doctor Mikesell, were similar in
many ways. They both worked at Rumsfeld's bio-lab, they both were
accused by the FBI of mailing anthrax to Bush's enemies, and
consequently, they both were harassed, tormented, threatened with the
death-penalty, and terrorized to the point of needing a drink of hard
liquor... really, really bad.

Perry Mikesell and Bruce Ivins both died of the same thing, alcohol
poisoning; however, FBI Director Mueller says one died of "suicide,"
and the other died of "natural causes." Mueller is lying because
neither man intentionally ended their own life as required by the
legal and medical definition of the word "suicide."

If the FBI and its obedient media say it a million times that Bruce
Ivins committed suicide, it still will not be true. Bruce Ivins did
not intentionally end his life by taking Tylanol. He was a
*scientist* for God's sake! I like the way this poster sarcastically
put it:

(Forwarded post:)
Common Sense
August 7th, 2008 at (no spam) 11:07 pm
Yes and it makes perfect sense why Ivins would choose, instead of
shooting himself with one of the firearms the FBI claims it seized
from his house and get it over with immediately, instead of doing that
he takes an overdose of tylenol and codeine over the weekend and says
to himself “Yes, I think I will make my last couple days on earth
mind-bending agony while the acetaminophen destroys my liver”. Right?
This story is so obviously fake it smells like a really REALLY bad
B-movie screenplay that was rejected for being too hackneyed and
unrealistic. Mad scientist. Secretly homicidal but not secretly. Yet
they let him carry on working in the biological weapons lab with his
security clearance. Devises his nefarious plot supposedly because he
wants to test his anthrax vaccine on human subjects and Ft. Detrick
only lets him test on animals. Come on! This story is patently
ridiculous on its face. Demand an autopsy. Check for needle marks in
odd places.
==============end quote=================

The "patsy-twins" both started drinking heavily in response to FBI
harassment, terrorism and intimidation, and eventually died from it;
however, Dr. Ivins is a notorious posthumous celebrity scorned as the
"lone, crazed anthrax terrorist," while Dr. Mikesell has been
relegated to Orwell's memory hole.

Up the flag pole with the FBI's anthrax terrorist suspect posthumously
pronounced guilty:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Ivins

Down the memory hole with Perry Mikesell, the FBI's oops, wrong dead
patsy, sorry. No page text matches Did you mean: ...Perry Mason ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=Per...

You've probably never heard of Dr. Perry Mikesell because the FBI
don't want you to, and, of course, the Bureau Boys control the media.
The FBI are *God* around here and when they decide to rain on your
parade, you're phucked. There is no escape. No where to run, nowhere
to hide, from the cruel, hideous tyrant named the FBI. The only place
to escape is inside a bottle of liquor.

In order to protect the real killers, the FBI attempted to make Steven
Hatfill commit suicide so they wouldn't have to prove anything in
court. Hatfield would have drank himself to death too if he didn't
have such a good lawyer. For absorbing and surviving FBI harassment,
Dr Hatfill and his lawyer became multi-millionaires at the expense of
the American taxpayers.

If Hatfill would have killed himself, it would have been perfect. The
FBI would have said Hatfill was "crazy" and "acted alone," and no one
would have questioned it. As it turned out, Robert Mueller went to
the well once too often, and now his credibility is in tatters.

This is what the FBI call "investigating," and I call state-sponsored
terrorism:

Anthrax Mystery: Questions Raised over Whether Government Is Framing
Dead Army Scientist for 2001 Attacks
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/4/anthrax
PATRICK CLAWSON: The problem that Steve Hatfill has is that his life
is a living nightmare right now. Every place he goes, twenty-four
hours a day, seven days a week, he is followed by squads of FBI
agents. Just last week, Steve and I went out to have some drinks and
dinner, and as soon as I left his house, bam!, I had seven FBI cars
following me all over northwest Washington, D.C. Sometimes these
agents swear at him, they flip him the finger. There’s nothing
surreptitious about this. This is not a surveillance. This is an open,
in-your-face harassment campaign. Steve Hatfill is a poster boy for
abuses of the PATRIOT Act.

================End quote=================

Perry Mikesell died of alcohol poisoning as a result of FBI
harassment, just like Bruce Ivins:

Doubts persist that troubled scientist was anthrax killer
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008587869_anthrax0...
Originally published Sunday, January 4, 2009 at 12:00 AM:

When Perry Mikesell, a microbiologist in Ohio, came under suspicion as
the anthrax attacker, he began drinking heavily, family members say,
and soon died. After a doctor in New York drew the interest of the
F.B.I., his marriage fell apart and his practice suffered, his lawyer
says. And after two Pakistani brothers in Pennsylvania were briefly
under scrutiny, they eventually had to leave the country to find work.

Profile: Perry Mikesell
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=perry_mikesell__1
Perry Mikesell was a participant or observer in the following events:
Late October 2002: Anthrax Attacks Suspect Drinks Himself to Death In
2002, microbiologist Perry Mikesell came under suspicion as the
anthrax attacker. Mikesell is an anthrax specialist who worked with
Bruce Ivins and others at USAMRIID, the US Army’s top bioweapons
laboratory, in the 1980s and 1990s. Since then, he had worked at the
Battelle Memorial Institute, a private contractor in Ohio working on
classified government bioweapons programs. According to family
members, he begins drinking heavily after the FBI starts suspecting
him, consuming up to a fifth of hard liquor a day. One relative will
later say, “It was a shock that all of a sudden he’s a raging
alcoholic.” He dies in late October 2002. The relative will say, “He
drank himself to death.” His connection to the anthrax investigation
will not be revealed until 2008, and it still is completely unknown
why the FBI was focusing on him. ...
 
 
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