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gabriel...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:30 pm
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http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/top-ten/myths-about-creation#paginateTop

Myth 10: Creationists Don’t Believe Species Change

A popular cariacature of creationists is that we teach the fixity
of species (i.e., species don’t change). And since species
obviously do change, evolutionists enjoy setting up this
straw-man argument to win a debate that was never really there in
the first place.

Prior to the publication of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species
especially, some Christians did claim that species were
immutable. But part of the problem is that the word species did
not mean the same thing then as it does now—nor was there ever
any reason to assume fixity in the first place.

Creationists have long been amazed by the diversity within each
created kind (or baramin, roughly on the family level). We know
that species do change—but only within the original kinds God
created roughly 6,000 years ago.

Species changing via natural selection and mutations is perfectly
in accord with what the Bible teaches. Such changes are not
evolution—they remind us that God put enough information in the
genome of each original kind to live and flourish in a cursed
world.

More information:
Fixity of species:
www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2009/03/16/fixity-of-species

Do Species Change:
www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v4/n1/species-change

Zonkeys, Ligers, and Wolphins, oh my!
www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v3/n1/zonkeys-ligers-wholphins

Bara-what ?
www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v3/n4/bara-what
 
Frankie Lee...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:30 pm
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On Nov 8, 12:48 pm, RichTravsky <traRvE... at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
Quote:
gabriel wrote:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/top-ten/myths-about-creat...

Myth 10: Creationists Don’t Believe Species Change

A popular cariacature of creationists is that we teach the fixity
of species (i.e., species don’t change). And since species
obviously do change, evolutionists enjoy setting up this
straw-man argument to win a debate that was never really there in
the first place.

Prior to the publication of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species
especially, some Christians did claim that species were
immutable. But part of the problem is that the word species did
not mean the same thing then as it does now—nor was there ever
any reason to assume fixity in the first place.

Creationists have long been amazed by the diversity within each

Because they ahve no understanding of genetics.

created kind (or baramin, roughly on the family level). We know

Baramins are a cretinist term with no scientific standing.

that species do change—but only within the original kinds God
created roughly 6,000 years ago.

Explain all those fossils...

Species changing via natural selection and mutations is perfectly
in accord with what the Bible teaches. Such changes are not

Where does the bible explain mutations? Where do they explain how human
and chimp DNA are similar to the extent of the high 90 percents?

evolution—they remind us that God put enough information in the
genome of each original kind to live and flourish in a cursed
world.


Where does the bible explain mutations? Where do they explain how
human
and chimp DNA are similar to the extent of the high 90 percents?

**You see,your assumptions are flawed.The Bible is already a huge
collection,no reason to make it even bigger or like an
Encyclopedias.The Bible shouldn't have explain the details of
science,or meticulous details which is not relevant to the main
subject.

Human are all creatures of God,the Bible said so.A monkey could
walk,and human also could walk.The functions of movements in our limbs
perhaps also bore resemblance.O.1 % different,is hell alot,in science
concept.
 
RichTravsky...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:48 pm
Guest
gabriel wrote:
Quote:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/top-ten/myths-about-creation#paginateTop

Myth 10: Creationists Don’t Believe Species Change

A popular cariacature of creationists is that we teach the fixity
of species (i.e., species don’t change). And since species
obviously do change, evolutionists enjoy setting up this
straw-man argument to win a debate that was never really there in
the first place.

Prior to the publication of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species
especially, some Christians did claim that species were
immutable. But part of the problem is that the word species did
not mean the same thing then as it does now—nor was there ever
any reason to assume fixity in the first place.

Creationists have long been amazed by the diversity within each

Because they ahve no understanding of genetics.

Quote:
created kind (or baramin, roughly on the family level). We know

Baramins are a cretinist term with no scientific standing.

Quote:
that species do change—but only within the original kinds God
created roughly 6,000 years ago.

Explain all those fossils...

Quote:
Species changing via natural selection and mutations is perfectly
in accord with what the Bible teaches. Such changes are not

Where does the bible explain mutations? Where do they explain how human
and chimp DNA are similar to the extent of the high 90 percents?

Quote:
evolution—they remind us that God put enough information in the
genome of each original kind to live and flourish in a cursed
world.
 
Juan M...
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:35 am
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"Frankie Lee" <leeahkwee at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 8, 12:48 pm, RichTravsky <traRvE... at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
Quote:
gabriel wrote:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/top-ten/myths-about-creat...

Myth 10: Creationists Don’t Believe Species Change

A popular cariacature of creationists is that we teach the fixity
of species (i.e., species don’t change). And since species
obviously do change, evolutionists enjoy setting up this
straw-man argument to win a debate that was never really there in
the first place.

Prior to the publication of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species
especially, some Christians did claim that species were
immutable. But part of the problem is that the word species did
not mean the same thing then as it does now—nor was there ever
any reason to assume fixity in the first place.

Creationists have long been amazed by the diversity within each

Because they ahve no understanding of genetics.

created kind (or baramin, roughly on the family level). We know

Baramins are a cretinist term with no scientific standing.

that species do change—but only within the original kinds God
created roughly 6,000 years ago.

Explain all those fossils...

Species changing via natural selection and mutations is perfectly
in accord with what the Bible teaches. Such changes are not

Where does the bible explain mutations? Where do they explain how human
and chimp DNA are similar to the extent of the high 90 percents?

evolution—they remind us that God put enough information in the
genome of each original kind to live and flourish in a cursed
world.


Where does the bible explain mutations? Where do they explain how
human
and chimp DNA are similar to the extent of the high 90 percents?

**You see,your assumptions are flawed.The Bible is already a huge
collection,no reason to make it even bigger or like an
Encyclopedias.The Bible shouldn't have explain the details of
science,or meticulous details which is not relevant to the main
subject.

Human are all creatures of God,the Bible said so.A monkey could
walk,and human also could walk.The functions of movements in our limbs
perhaps also bore resemblance.O.1 % different,is hell alot,in science
concept.


It is the brains of the Creationists that are incapable of change.
 
Dave Oldridge...
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:52 am
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gabriel <gabriel_baptist at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in
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Quote:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/top-ten/myths-about-creation
#paginateTop

Myth 10: Creationists Don’t Believe Species Change

A popular cariacature of creationists is that we teach the fixity
of species (i.e., species don’t change). And since species
obviously do change, evolutionists enjoy setting up this
straw-man argument to win a debate that was never really there in
the first place.

Actually, some creationists have unwisely made the claim. Some even to
this day.
Quote:

Prior to the publication of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species
especially, some Christians did claim that species were
immutable. But part of the problem is that the word species did
not mean the same thing then as it does now—nor was there ever
any reason to assume fixity in the first place.

Creationists have long been amazed by the diversity within each
created kind (or baramin, roughly on the family level). We know
that species do change—but only within the original kinds God
created roughly 6,000 years ago.

"Baramin" is an artificial word concocted from the Hebrew phrase "miyn
bara" found in Genesis and translated as "created kind." But my Hebrew
sources tell me that a very reasonable translation would be "species."

The fact that the author of that part of Genesis had observed what we
still see today--that species generally reproduce by giving rise to
members of their own species in no way makes fixity of species or "kind"
(whatever you think you mean by the term) a law of nature, even according
to the scripture you are so anxious to misinterpret.

Quote:

Species changing via natural selection and mutations is perfectly
in accord with what the Bible teaches. Such changes are not
evolution—they remind us that God put enough information in the
genome of each original kind to live and flourish in a cursed
world.

Such changes are precisely what scientists mean by evolution. Lying
about things like this is what is condemning you to an eternity in a lake
of fire.


Yes, bara-what?

Barmin: A creationist-coined word that is said to mean "created kind."
This fleible pseudotaxon is excellent for avoiding discussion of actual
directly-observed evolution events while denying those inferred from the
fossil record and from genetics. It has no objective, scientific
definition and is therefore a great tool in fallacies of equivocation.

Your master, Satan, is well pleased with such work, but tends to get
quite testy when the lies stop working.

--
Dave Oldridge+
 
Pat Magroyne...
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:15 am
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On Nov 7, 11:30 pm, gabriel <gabriel_bapt... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
God
created roughly 6,000 years ago.

LOL
 
RichTravsky...
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:41 am
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Frankie Lee wrote:
Quote:
On Nov 8, 12:48 pm, RichTravsky <traRvE... at (no spam) hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:
gabriel wrote:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/top-ten/myths-about-creat...

Myth 10: Creationists Don’t Believe Species Change

A popular cariacature of creationists is that we teach the fixity
of species (i.e., species don’t change). And since species
obviously do change, evolutionists enjoy setting up this
straw-man argument to win a debate that was never really there in
the first place.

Prior to the publication of Darwin’s On the Origin of Species
especially, some Christians did claim that species were
immutable. But part of the problem is that the word species did
not mean the same thing then as it does now—nor was there ever
any reason to assume fixity in the first place.

Creationists have long been amazed by the diversity within each

Because they ahve no understanding of genetics.

created kind (or baramin, roughly on the family level). We know

Baramins are a cretinist term with no scientific standing.

that species do change—but only within the original kinds God
created roughly 6,000 years ago.

Explain all those fossils...

Species changing via natural selection and mutations is perfectly
in accord with what the Bible teaches. Such changes are not

Where does the bible explain mutations? Where do they explain how human
and chimp DNA are similar to the extent of the high 90 percents?

evolution—they remind us that God put enough information in the
genome of each original kind to live and flourish in a cursed
world.

Where does the bible explain mutations? Where do they explain how
human
and chimp DNA are similar to the extent of the high 90 percents?

**You see,your assumptions are flawed.The Bible is already a huge
collection,no reason to make it even bigger or like an
Encyclopedias.The Bible shouldn't have explain the details of
science,or meticulous details which is not relevant to the main
subject.

Human are all creatures of God,the Bible said so.A monkey could
walk,and human also could walk.The functions of movements in our limbs
perhaps also bore resemblance.O.1 % different,is hell alot,in science
concept.

Oh look, it's Wanker Lee. Glad to see you admit the bible is no science
document and should not be relied upon as such.

RT
 
 
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