On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:44:12 -0800, Agent Orange wrote:

On Nov 7, 12:03 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100%
from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo. Keep telling yourself that. Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and ready to use
stored in Iraq"

Wow. Some quotes from Bush that you think are lies. Do you really
want the list of lies already put out there by Obama? Good night,
it would take me hours to list them all. And I haven't denied, of
course, that there are plenty of lies on the right...if you read my
post I said, "Both sides are waist-deep in lies."

I want your 5 most egregious Obama lies, blowhard. That should not
take you "hours". But I warn you that I want some references for these
supposed lies that are from sources other than Republican liars. I
have not spent all my time watching Obama for any "nit" slip up that
I can amplify in a fake Republican talking point.

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:54:52 -0800, Peter Franks
none at (no spam) none.com> wrote:

The mere fact that Fox news asserted, and was subsequently confirmed,
that they had the right to broadcast a false story. You can't conclude
that they DO in fact do that as part of their agenda.


BWHAHAHAHA

You can't be serious?

90% slanted/biased opinion based journalism,
intersperced with dubious "news" claimed to be
"unbiased" certainly isn't credible

What's more telling is that someone (like you) that
belives it is.

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:49:46 -0600, "Ouroboros Rex"
its at (no spam) casual.com> wrote:

smorgas at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:39:45 -0800 (PST), Yup
johnnycat at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 6, 1:31 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:


Then-Destroy-Everyth... at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
To get back to my main point, Obama has suggested that FOX isn't
a "news" organization..... Another Obama lie.

However, according to Faux's own legal pleadings---they
aren't required to be truthful




Like Drugs Limbaugh their product is just "Infotainment" - aimed
mostly at the elderly and hillbilly trailer trash.

I believe CNN or C-SPAN archives programs---the one of
a symposium of "radio and TV talk show hosts" was
informing

Limpballs told his peers "I'm an entertainer--I make my
living entertaining an audience"

He said: "I merely REFLECT my audience's beliefs"

Given that--rightwingers should parse it so that they
figure out if what his "viewers believe" isn't
true---he's not constrained to tell them the truth

"If I didn't entertain them", he said, 'I'd be out of a
job"

The problem is, he knows right wingers aren't very smart, and so
his show is filled with assurances that he is always right and other
news outlets are slanted away from HIM instead - and his audience is
dumb enough to instantly forget his entertainer stance and argue for
him endlessly every time. lol


Limpballs like most of the talking heads, use the
"logical fallacies" shamelessly

The "old school" of education used to teach basic
debate which touched on logical fallacy and how to spot
or counter it

Well now. Is there something in the Constitution that says that ANY news
organization has to tell the truth?

On Nov 7, 12:03 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
  Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100% from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo.  Keep telling yourself that.  Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and
ready to use stored in Iraq"

Wow. Some quotes from Bush that you think are lies.

Do you really
want the list of lies already put out there by Obama? Good night, it
would take me hours to list them all.

And I haven't denied, of
course, that there are plenty of lies on the right...if you read my
post I said, "Both sides are waist-deep in lies."

So many lies. So little time. Just watch for his video campaign clips.

90% slanted/biased opinion based journalism,
intersperced with dubious "news" claimed to be
"unbiased" certainly isn't credible

You have a cite for that claim or is it just your humble opinion?

The "old school" of education used to teach basic
debate which touched on logical fallacy and how to spot
or counter it

Too bad you flunked it.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:27:11 -0500, "James"
kingkongg at (no spam) iglou.com> wrote:

So many lies. So little time. Just watch for his video campaign clips.

Rhetoric and campaign promises---that even middle
school students are familar with----are of the same
gravity as "Iraq has tons of WMD---and we must
attack"??

On Nov 7, 3:59 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:44:12 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange



agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 7, 12:03 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost
100% from lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo. Keep telling yourself that. Both
sides are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and
ready to use stored in Iraq"

Wow. Some quotes from Bush that you think are lies.

You think they're all from Bush?

Did I say that? So, no, the answer is, no, I know they're not all
from Bush.

Do you really
want the list of lies already put out there by Obama? Good night, it
would take me hours to list them all.

Sure it would---waiting for lightening to hit your
tin-hat takes a long wait.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but ok.

And I haven't denied, of
course, that there are plenty of lies on the right...if you read my
post I said, "Both sides are waist-deep in lies."

Which ones on the "left" lied us into war, sold arms to
sworn enemies, were told to congress and a Grand
jury--(then admitted on National television) and
covered up drug abuse and desertion?---and got nearly,
5,000 of our troops killed, 30-40 thousand maimed,
wounded?

Ok, we get it. You're against the war in Iraq and you blame Bush. No
problemo.

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:16:36 -0500, Beam Me Up Scotty
Then-Destroy-Everything at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:

Callers to Fox did not go to court to be able to "lie and distort
the news", Fox went to court to "lie and distort the news." Lying
right wingers clearly can't tell the difference. lol


If it's on FOX it's on FOX, trying to parse the news is Semantics.
The President and company didn't suggest that anyone on FOX was
Newsworthy.

Why would they

Faux is not reliable or truthful most of the time

They won court cases that absolved them of having to do
so.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:32:56 -0500, "James"
kingkongg at (no spam) iglou.com> wrote:


90% slanted/biased opinion based journalism,
intersperced with dubious "news" claimed to be
"unbiased" certainly isn't credible

You have a cite for that claim or is it just your humble opinion?

Write down hours of so-called "news" on faux versus the
hours of Opinion "journalism" and see.

Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
Yup wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:31 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:

Then-Destroy-Everyth... at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
To get back to my main point, Obama has suggested that FOX isn't a
"news" organization..... Another Obama lie.
However, according to Faux's own legal pleadings---they
aren't required to be truthful

That just covers their ass for when they have a Liberal on their
shows, they know that Liberals will lie and trying to accept
liability for the lies Liberals tell, would guarantee your demise.
Even at a dollar a lie they would go broke after just a few Liberal
guests are put on the network.

As always, the right winger just makes some shit up.

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:05:49 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange



agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 7, 3:59 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:44:12 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 7, 12:03 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
  Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100% from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo.  Keep telling yourself that.  Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and
ready to use stored in Iraq"

Wow.  Some quotes from Bush that you think are lies.

You think they're all from Bush?

Did I say that?  So, no, the answer is, no, I know they're not all
from Bush.

Do you really
want the list of lies already put out there by Obama?  Good night, it
would take me hours to list them all.

Sure it would---waiting for lightening to hit your
tin-hat takes a long wait.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but ok.

And I haven't denied, of
course, that there are plenty of lies on the right...if you read my
post I said, "Both sides are waist-deep in lies."

Which ones on the "left" lied us into war, sold arms to
sworn enemies, were told to congress and a Grand
jury--(then admitted on National television) and
covered up drug abuse and desertion?---and got nearly,
5,000 of our troops killed, 30-40 thousand maimed,
wounded?

Ok, we get it.  You're against the war in Iraq and you blame Bush.  No
problemo.

Now we can discuss why Afghanistan is such a
mess---because of Iraq

On Nov 7, 3:59 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:44:12 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange



agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 7, 12:03 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
  Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100% from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo.  Keep telling yourself that.  Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and
ready to use stored in Iraq"

Wow.  Some quotes from Bush that you think are lies.

You think they're all from Bush?

Did I say that? So, no, the answer is, no, I know they're not all
from Bush.

Do you really
want the list of lies already put out there by Obama?  Good night, it
would take me hours to list them all.

Sure it would---waiting for lightening to hit your
tin-hat takes a long wait.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but ok.

And I haven't denied, of
course, that there are plenty of lies on the right...if you read my
post I said, "Both sides are waist-deep in lies."

Which ones on the "left" lied us into war, sold arms to
sworn enemies, were told to congress and a Grand
jury--(then admitted on National television) and
covered up drug abuse and desertion?---and got nearly,
5,000 of our troops killed, 30-40 thousand maimed,
wounded?

Ok, we get it. You're against the war in Iraq and you blame Bush. No
problemo.