BWHAHAHAHA

You can't be serious?

90% slanted/biased opinion based journalism,
intersperced with dubious "news" claimed to be
"unbiased" certainly isn't credible

What's more telling is that someone (like you) that
belives it is.

Peter Franks wrote:
Ouroboros Rex wrote:
Peter Franks wrote:
Ouroboros Rex wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
I looked in on CNN during the Ft. Hood shooting to see how they
were doing these days as to their in the tank for Obama news was
going. The funny thing was that CNN was using information that they
said
was "from another NEWS SERVICE" and as it turns out they were
quoting people from a conversation with Sheppard Smith of FOX.
Shep had some people on the phone earlier and CNN was drawing
from FOX for their breaking news.


To get back to my main point, Obama has suggested that FOX isn't a
"news" organization..... Another Obama lie.
Fox went to court to be able to "lie and distort the news", case
closed.
I wasn't aware. Could you please elaborate?
I could, but it's all over Google and probably more believable
from there. Basically they went to court six times, before three
different judges, to verify their right to "lie and distort the
news" (actual quote) so they could get away with firing a
whistleblower. Apparently in the state where this occurred,
whistleblowers have no protection unless they are reporting an
actual crime, so Fox chose to prove their lying did not constitute a
crime.
I'm defending and I don't defend Fox, but your references* are based
on supposition and inference. I see very little fact. If there are
some actual facts to the case that I'm missing, I'd appreciate if you
could provide those.

* Your references are suspect at best, probably more politically
driven than newsworthy.

That said, let's take a look at one of your references:

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2009/10/fox-admits-that-they-lie-and-distort.html

"According to Akre and Wilson, the station was initially very excited
about the series. But within a week, Fox executives and their
attorneys wanted the reporters to use statements from Monsanto
representatives that the reporters knew were false and to make other
revisions to the story that were in direct conflict with the facts. "

We have two sides here, and the details from neither.

Sounds like you need to find the court documents.

Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
I looked in on CNN during the Ft. Hood shooting to see how they were
doing these days as to their in the tank for Obama news was going.


The funny thing was that CNN was using information that they said was
"from another NEWS SERVICE" and as it turns out they were quoting
people from a conversation with Sheppard Smith of FOX. Shep had some
people on the phone earlier and CNN was drawing from FOX for their
breaking news.


To get back to my main point, Obama has suggested that FOX isn't a
"news" organization..... Another Obama lie.

Fox went to court to be able to "lie and distort the news", case closed.

Peter Franks wrote:
Ouroboros Rex wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
I looked in on CNN during the Ft. Hood shooting to see how they were
doing these days as to their in the tank for Obama news was going.


The funny thing was that CNN was using information that they said
was "from another NEWS SERVICE" and as it turns out they were
quoting people from a conversation with Sheppard Smith of FOX. Shep
had some people on the phone earlier and CNN was drawing from FOX
for their breaking news.


To get back to my main point, Obama has suggested that FOX isn't a
"news" organization..... Another Obama lie.

Fox went to court to be able to "lie and distort the news", case
closed.

I wasn't aware. Could you please elaborate?

I could, but it's all over Google and probably more believable from
there. Basically they went to court six times, before three different
judges, to verify their right to "lie and distort the news" (actual quote)
so they could get away with firing a whistleblower. Apparently in the
state where this occurred, whistleblowers have no protection unless they
are reporting an actual crime, so Fox chose to prove their lying did not
constitute a crime.

  Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100% from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo. Keep telling yourself that. Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

You're the one making claims, now back it up. Pointing me at Google is
just a cop out.

smorgas at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:39:45 -0800 (PST), Yup
johnnycat at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 6, 1:31 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:


Then-Destroy-Everyth... at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
To get back to my main point, Obama has suggested that FOX isn't a
"news" organization..... Another Obama lie.

However, according to Faux's own legal pleadings---they
aren't required to be truthful




Like Drugs Limbaugh their product is just "Infotainment" - aimed
mostly at the elderly and hillbilly trailer trash.

I believe CNN or C-SPAN archives programs---the one of
a symposium of "radio and TV talk show hosts" was
informing

Limpballs told his peers "I'm an entertainer--I make my
living entertaining an audience"

He said: "I merely REFLECT my audience's beliefs"

Given that--rightwingers should parse it so that they
figure out if what his "viewers believe" isn't
true---he's not constrained to tell them the truth

"If I didn't entertain them", he said, 'I'd be out of a
job"

The problem is, he knows right wingers aren't very smart, and so his show
is filled with assurances that he is always right and other news outlets are
slanted away from HIM instead - and his audience is dumb enough to instantly
forget his entertainer stance and argue for him endlessly every time. lol

Yeah, the New York Times and the Guardian are socialist/green propoganda.

smorgas at (no spam) board.com> wrote in message news:q969f5lclid4tj9ov9l74p8lgqa2eaohkf at (no spam) 4ax.com...

BWHAHAHAHA

You can't be serious?

90% slanted/biased opinion based journalism,
intersperced with dubious "news" claimed to be
"unbiased" certainly isn't credible

What's more telling is that someone (like you) that
belives it is.

"Ouroboros Rex" <its at (no spam) casual.com> wrote in message
news:hd1mr001dkp at (no spam) news5.newsguy.com...
Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
I looked in on CNN during the Ft. Hood shooting to see how they were
doing these days as to their in the tank for Obama news was going.


The funny thing was that CNN was using information that they said was
"from another NEWS SERVICE" and as it turns out they were quoting
people from a conversation with Sheppard Smith of FOX. Shep had some
people on the phone earlier and CNN was drawing from FOX for their
breaking news.


To get back to my main point, Obama has suggested that FOX isn't a
"news" organization..... Another Obama lie.

Fox went to court to be able to "lie and distort the news", case closed.


"If" they went to court, then isn't it up to the court to decide if they
lied and distorted the news?

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
  Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100% from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo.  Keep telling yourself that.  Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and
ready to use stored in Iraq"

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:49:46 -0600, "Ouroboros Rex"



i... at (no spam) casual.com> wrote:
smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:39:45 -0800 (PST), Yup
johnny... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 6, 1:31 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:

Then-Destroy-Everyth... at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
To get back to my main point, Obama has suggested that FOX isn't a
"news" organization..... Another Obama lie.

However, according to Faux's own legal pleadings---they
aren't required to be truthful

Like Drugs Limbaugh their product is just "Infotainment" - aimed
mostly at the elderly and hillbilly trailer trash.

I believe CNN or C-SPAN archives programs---the one of
a symposium of "radio and TV talk show hosts" was
informing

Limpballs told his peers "I'm an entertainer--I make my
living entertaining an audience"

He said: "I merely REFLECT my audience's beliefs"

Given that--rightwingers should parse it so that they
figure out if what his "viewers believe" isn't
true---he's not constrained to tell them the truth

"If I didn't entertain them", he said, 'I'd be out of a
job"

 The problem is, he knows right wingers aren't very smart, and so his show
is filled with assurances that he is always right and other news outlets are
slanted away from HIM instead - and his audience is dumb enough to instantly
forget his entertainer stance and argue for him endlessly every time.  lol

Limpballs like most of the talking heads, use the
"logical fallacies" shamelessly

The "old school" of education used to teach basic
debate which touched on logical fallacy and how to spot
or counter it

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:44:12 -0800, Agent Orange wrote:
On Nov 7, 12:03 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
  Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100%
  from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo.  Keep telling yourself that.  Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and ready to use stored
in Iraq"

Wow.  Some quotes from Bush that you think are lies.  Do you really want
the list of lies already put out there by Obama?  Good night, it would
take me hours to list them all.  And I haven't denied, of course, that
there are plenty of lies on the right...if you read my post I said,
"Both sides are waist-deep in lies."

I want your 5 most egregious Obama lies, blowhard.  

That should not take
you "hours". But I warn you that I want some references for these
supposed lies that are from sources other than Republican liars.  I have
not spent all my time watching Obama for any "nit" slip up that I can
amplify in a fake Republican talking point.

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:57:06 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:43 pm, "Ouroboros Rex" <i... at (no spam) casual.com> wrote:

  Callers to Fox did not go to court to be able to "lie and distort the
news", Fox went to court to "lie and distort the news."  Lying right wingers
clearly can't tell the difference.  lol

More and more you reference "right wingers".  Sounds like your
positions are mostly based on politics.

We're talking about a biased/slanted entertainment
channel pretending to be legitimate "news" that was
started intentionally to promote a conservative
political position

That's why

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 05:44:12 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange



agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 7, 12:03 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
  Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100% from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo.  Keep telling yourself that.  Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and
ready to use stored in Iraq"

Wow.  Some quotes from Bush that you think are lies.

You think they're all from Bush?

Do you really
want the list of lies already put out there by Obama?  Good night, it
would take me hours to list them all.

Sure it would---waiting for lightening to hit your
tin-hat takes a long wait.

And I haven't denied, of
course, that there are plenty of lies on the right...if you read my
post I said, "Both sides are waist-deep in lies."

Which ones on the "left" lied us into war, sold arms to
sworn enemies, were told to congress and a Grand
jury--(then admitted on National television) and
covered up drug abuse and desertion?---and got nearly,
5,000 of our troops killed, 30-40 thousand maimed,
wounded?

On Nov 7, 12:03 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 13:48:29 -0800 (PST), Agent Orange

agentorang... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
  Nope, the plain fact is, the right wing now operates almost 100%
  from
lies

Um, yeah, sure thing kiddo.  Keep telling yourself that.  Both sides
are waist-deep in lies.

"we did not sell arms to Iran"

"I was out of the loop"

"I completed all of my NG duty"

"I could pass a standard drug test"

"I'm a uniter not a divider"

"Saddam has tons of "slam-dunk" WMD stockpiled and ready to use stored
in Iraq"

Wow. Some quotes from Bush that you think are lies. Do you really want
the list of lies already put out there by Obama? Good night, it would
take me hours to list them all. And I haven't denied, of course, that
there are plenty of lies on the right...if you read my post I said,
"Both sides are waist-deep in lies."