REPUBLICANS! -- MASTERS of Doublethink !!

No Republicans, Doublethink is not Rush Limbaugh thinking
when he doesn't have half his brain tied behind his back.  

Republican leadership, Limbaugh and Cheney, are counting on the
fact that their Doublethinking (see Orwell) dittoheads don't
notice that now they are arguing that government is actually
working so well that any competition from it will bankrupt
private HMOs.

 By the late 1970s memories of successful government programs
from the 1930s to 1950s were fading, so Reagan's apocryphal and
made-up stories of the Cadillac-driving welfare mother were able
to gain traction. But if health care reform passes and works,
people will realize that the "government doesn't work" line is
BS.  Since it's Conservatism before America, they are hysterical.

========== Doublethink - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 Doublethink is a word described in the fictional language of
Newspeak and the act of simultaneously accepting as correct two
mutually contradictory beliefs. It is related to, but distinct
from, hypocrisy and neutrality.
 Doublethink is an integral concept of George Orwell's dystopian
novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.

 According to the novel, doublethink is:
 “The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind
simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate
lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that
has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary
again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is
needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the
while to take account of the reality which one denies — all this
is indispensably necessary.

 "Even in using the word "doublethink," it is necessary to
exercise doublethink."

 "For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with
reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge;
and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the
truth.[1]...
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink-

Sound familiar!? (laughing!)

========== COMMON EXAMPLES OF Republican doublethink:

Like: "We support the troops, send more off to die!"
Like: "We hate the elite limosine wine-sippers, cut their taxes!"
Like: "We hate Big Government, give them more guns and powers!"
Like: "We believe in inalienable Rights! Legalize torture!"

The list is endless.
What's YOUR favorite?  

- What's the difference between Socialism & Fascism?
- Socialism: The government/people own the corporations.
- Fascism: The corporations own the government/people.

Whose side are YOU on?

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:23:40 +0000, Doug Bashford wrote:

government is actually working so well that any competition from it will
bankrupt private HMOs.

Are you really this stupid?

If government confiscates or borrows enough money to provide something to
people more cheaply than it actually costs, of *course* it will put
legitimate providers of that service or good out of business.

If the government increased taxes enough to buy a used Yugo for everyone,
do you think that would help or hurt legitimate auto-selling companies?

That doesn't mean it's "working well", and it *really* doesn't mean it's
a workable financial model.

Fuck, you're dumb.

REPUBLICANS! -- MASTERS of Doublethink !!

No Republicans, Doublethink is not Rush Limbaugh thinking
when he doesn't have half his brain tied behind his back.

Republican leadership, Limbaugh and Cheney, are counting on the
fact that their Doublethinking (see Orwell) dittoheads don't
notice that now they are arguing that government is actually
working so well that any competition from it will bankrupt
private HMOs.

By the late 1970s memories of successful government programs
from the 1930s to 1950s were fading, so Reagan's apocryphal and
made-up stories of the Cadillac-driving welfare mother were able
to gain traction. But if health care reform passes and works,
people will realize that the "government doesn't work" line is
BS. Since it's Conservatism before America, they are hysterical.


========== Doublethink - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Doublethink is a word described in the fictional language of
Newspeak and the act of simultaneously accepting as correct two
mutually contradictory beliefs. It is related to, but distinct
from, hypocrisy and neutrality.
Doublethink is an integral concept of George Orwell's dystopian
novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.

According to the novel, doublethink is:
"The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind
simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate
lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that
has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary
again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is
needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the
while to take account of the reality which one denies - all this
is indispensably necessary.

"Even in using the word "doublethink," it is necessary to
exercise doublethink."

"For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with
reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge;
and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the
truth.[1]...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink -

Sound familiar!? (laughing!)

========== COMMON EXAMPLES OF Republican doublethink:

Like: "We support the troops, send more off to die!"
Like: "We hate the elite limosine wine-sippers, cut their taxes!"
Like: "We hate Big Government, give them more guns and powers!"
Like: "We believe in inalienable Rights! Legalize torture!"

The list is endless.
What's YOUR favorite?


- What's the difference between Socialism & Fascism?
- Socialism: The government/people own the corporations.
- Fascism: The corporations own the government/people.

Whose side are YOU on?

On Nov 5, (Doug Bashford) wrote:
REPUBLICANS! -- MASTERS of Doublethink !!

No Republicans, Doublethink is not Rush Limbaugh thinking
when he doesn't have half his brain tied behind his back. =A0

Republican leadership, Limbaugh and Cheney, are counting on the
fact that their Doublethinking (see Orwell) dittoheads don't
notice that now they are arguing that government is actually
working so well that any competition from it will bankrupt
private HMOs.

=A0By the late 1970s memories of successful government programs
from the 1930s to 1950s were fading, so Reagan's apocryphal and
made-up stories of the Cadillac-driving welfare mother were able
to gain traction. But if health care reform passes and works,
people will realize that the "government doesn't work" line is
BS. =A0Since it's Conservatism before America, they are hysterical.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Doublethink - Wikipedia, the free encyclop=
edia
=A0Doublethink is a word described in the fictional language of
Newspeak and the act of simultaneously accepting as correct two
mutually contradictory beliefs. It is related to, but distinct
from, hypocrisy and neutrality.
=A0Doublethink is an integral concept of George Orwell's dystopian
novel Nineteen Eighty-Four.

=A0According to the novel, doublethink is:
=A0=93The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind
simultaneously, and accepting both of them....To tell deliberate
lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that
has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary
again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is
needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the
while to take account of the reality which one denies =97 all this
is indispensably necessary.

=A0"Even in using the word "doublethink," it is necessary to
exercise doublethink."

=A0"For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with
reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge;
and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the
truth.[1]...
=A0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink-

Sound familiar!? (laughing!)

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D COMMON EXAMPLES OF Republican doublethink:

Like: "We support the troops, send more off to die!"
Like: "We hate the elite limosine wine-sippers, cut their taxes!"
Like: "We hate Big Government, give them more guns and powers!"
Like: "We believe in inalienable Rights! Legalize torture!"

The list is endless.
What's YOUR favorite? =A0

I disagree with the premise that Republicans are masters of
"doublethink." Orwell described it as the acceptance of two opposing
and irreconcilable beliefs at the same time. That's not that
unusual.

People often just don't associate the two positions in their
minds and seem comfortable expressing both, only at different times.
Killing people, for example, is wrong but killing people with remote
controlled predator missiles is perfectly alright because its
necessary. Bigotry is wrong except where Muslims are concerned. In
other words, perfectly honest people can and do exercise doublethink
almost every day.

What the Republicans are masters of is "doubletalk." That's the
ability to use language that deliberately disguises or distorts the
actual meaning. For example, a law that allows the government to pry
into the private affairs of private citizens is called "The Patriot
Act." An all-out military invasion of an unthreatening nation is
called a "pre-emptive strike." Reducing an ancient nation to rubble
is called "nation building." Torture is called "enhanced
interrogation." Examples of Republican doubletalk can fill a large
book.

Unlike doublethink, only the most dishonest and depraved engage in
doubletalk--and that's an accurate description of what's left of
Republican Party. Just listen to the Republican rantings against
healthcare reform. Only the most mentally challenged can fail to see
that the Republicans, to a man, are doing all they can to protect the
profane profits of the private insurance industry. But from their
language, they try to cover it with claims of fiscal responsibility
(after eight years of waste and corruption and TARP), of opposition to
big government (after eight years of calling up the reserves and
invading two, count 'em, foreign nations), and protection of
individual liberty (after the patriot act, Guantanamo, warrentless
arrests, torture of prisoners, etc.). That's double talk, the language
of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Hank Paulson, and all the rest of
remnants of the Republican Party.

On Nov 5, 5:00=A0pm, KK wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Doug Bashford wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:41:50 GMT, KK said about:
=A0Re: REPUBLICANS! -- MASTERS of Doublethink !!
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Doug Bashford wrote:

government is actually working so well that any competition from it
will bankrupt private HMOs.

Are you really this stupid?

Have you guys REALLY swalled? =A0AGAIN!? Man you Repubs are gullible!

"swalled"? =A0I won't tell you again that I'm not a "Repub". =A0Instead, =
I'll
just start calling you a kid toucher - how's that?

When will you ever learn? The answer my friend is blowin in the wind...

If government confiscates or borrows enough money to provide something
to people more cheaply than it actually costs, of *course* it will put
legitimate providers of that service or good out of business.

Sure. If. - BIG IF. - But it aint.

It aint? =A0How are we going to get healthcare more cheaply than it costs
to provide it then, Merlin? =A0Someone has to take it from someone. =A0An=
d
even the most ridiculous estimates aimed at the most gullible morons put
the cost for this at a twelve-figure annual number.

Well, if every other country can cover everyone for half of what the
U.S. is spending and the U.S. can't even cover everyone at that rate,
then what are the other countries doing right that the U.S. is not?

Why don't you do a little research on the net if you truly want to
learn anything instead of posting stupid comments and questions borne
out of sheer ignorance - and that ignorance of yours is screaming way
too loud. Fuck, you're dumb.

Why do you guys prefer Rush Limbaugh and Fox "Wrong-again" News to the
CBO?

I don't. =A0But CBO calls it $1.015T over 10 years. =A0And they were 1000=
%
off on Medicare, so you take the bets on the actual costs of this one.

And where do you get the 1000% figure? Let's see iof you know what
you're talking about. Otherwise, fuck, you're dumb.

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:06:25 +0000, Doug Bashford wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, KK said:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Doug Bashford wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:41:50 GMT, KK said:

Try reality:
we are going to get healthcare more cheaply than
the sickness profiteers do.

No, "you're" not. Even as more and more doctors are rejecting the cut-
rate reimbursement Medicare provides, you think that somewhow a more
universal and drastic version of that won't discourage doctors from
entering the field.

You're going to decrease supply,

which *never* makes things cheaper.

That's all. That's easy, since their buraucrats are so
inneficient and greedy (actually redundant terms).

Chose to ignore the reports about insurance company margins, I see.