On 11/6/09 4:24 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 4:11 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:46 PM, * Osprey wrote:

On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:09 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true.  But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them.  And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem..
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...
you.
So
You have a problem.
not only can't you answer the question but your
bigotry
As soon as you address your bigotry, Paranoid IAAH.
I asked you to demonstrate that and you utterly
failed, Bigoted Bipolar Bob.

Paranoid IAAH, I'm not going to ask your silly questions that are
based at you making up more assumptions.
I've explained my position very well and I'm very comfortable with my
opinoin.  If you wish to remain paranoid and play silly games, you go
play with yourself.

Accusations without support are your usual game,
Bipolar Bob.

In regards to your rhetorical question, I never said SSM harmed me.
I asked what harm it would do, Bipolar Bob.

That would be up to the individual to answer, Paranoid IAAH.
What harm does it do to you if someone believes that the sexual acts
committed by homosexuals are a sin?

None at all.

minority being oppressed and denied rights by a
hyper-religious sect that can't mind their own
business. I also don't have to deal with cowards
like you

to continue to oppress minorities.

You are a bigot towards anyone who has a different opionion,

On 11/6/09 4:43 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 4:36 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:24 PM, * Osprey wrote:

On Nov 6, 4:11 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:46 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:09 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true.  But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them.  And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...
you.
So
You have a problem.
not only can't you answer the question but your
bigotry
As soon as you address your bigotry, Paranoid IAAH.
I asked you to demonstrate that and you utterly
failed, Bigoted Bipolar Bob.
Paranoid IAAH, I'm not going to ask your silly questions that are
based at you making up more assumptions.
I've explained my position very well and I'm very comfortable with my
opinoin.  If you wish to remain paranoid and play silly games, you go
play with yourself.
Accusations without support are your usual game,
Bipolar Bob.

No Paranoid Adam, those are your games.
You just can't deal with the truth.

If there was any truth in what you said

In regards to your rhetorical question, I never said SSM harmed me.
I asked what harm it would do, Bipolar Bob.
That would be up to the individual to answer, Paranoid IAAH.
What harm does it do to you if someone believes that the sexual acts
committed by homosexuals are a sin?
None at all.

Then why do you tell people to leave their religious viewpoints out of
it?
Why do you think you have the right to tell other people what matters
and what doesn't?

Religion has NO PLACE in lawmaking,

I *actually* said. Denying rights to homosexuals
based on religion *is* harm.

But I'm not at all surprised that you had to go
with your usual strategy of creative omission.

 But then, I'm not a member of a
minority being oppressed and denied rights by a
hyper-religious sect that can't mind their own
business. I also don't have to deal with cowards
like you

Aww, Paranoid Adam thinks I am a coward. Oh my, now what?

"Knows". Not "thinks".

 that think such groups should be allowed
to continue to oppress minorities.

And now Paranoid Adam just resorts to lying and leaving.

So denying rights to a minority isn't oppression now?

On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true. But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them. And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....

Only with you.

On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true. But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them. And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...

you.

On Nov 6, 8:21 am, Puck Greenman <dubh_gh... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:46:43 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 5, 3:03 pm, Puck Greenman <dubh_gh... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:53:46 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 5, 12:13 pm, "thomas p." <gudl... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey wrote:
On Nov 4, 7:42 pm, Uncle Vic <vic... at (no spam) inreach.com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:41 am, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

Who cares, you prefer penis..I don't care.

Hypocrite! It bothers you deeply that a minority group of US citizens
wants the same rights you have. If you didn't care, like I don't
care, you wouldn't be bothered by this.

I'm not bothered by it at all.  I don't care what you want.  You and
other's like you are not going to bully other people around into
changing their own opinions.
So just deal with it.

How would legalized same-sex marriage force you to change your opinion?  For
example divorce is legal, did that force the Catholic Church to change its
opinion?

Legalized SSM would "not" force me to change my opinion. I never said
it would.

Then why are you so scared of it?-

Scared of what?  Seriously, is this the best you can do?

Evasion noted.-

Ah, my question stumped you.
I asked you..

Scared of what, and you know you have no answer.

On 11/6/09 5:39 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 4:50 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:43 PM, * Osprey wrote:

On Nov 6, 4:36 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:24 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 4:11 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:46 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:09 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true.  But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them.  And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...
you.
So
You have a problem.
not only can't you answer the question but your
bigotry
As soon as you address your bigotry, Paranoid IAAH.
I asked you to demonstrate that and you utterly
failed, Bigoted Bipolar Bob.
Paranoid IAAH, I'm not going to ask your silly questions that are
based at you making up more assumptions.
I've explained my position very well and I'm very comfortable with my
opinoin.  If you wish to remain paranoid and play silly games, you go
play with yourself.
Accusations without support are your usual game,
Bipolar Bob.
No Paranoid Adam, those are your games.
You just can't deal with the truth.
If there was any truth in what you said

And there is.

Then SHOW IT.

In regards to your rhetorical question, I never said SSM harmed me.
I asked what harm it would do, Bipolar Bob.
That would be up to the individual to answer, Paranoid IAAH.
What harm does it do to you if someone believes that the sexual acts
committed by homosexuals are a sin?
None at all.
Then why do you tell people to leave their religious viewpoints out of
it?
Why do you think you have the right to tell other people what matters
and what doesn't?
Religion has NO PLACE in lawmaking,

Religion has a LOT in lawmaking. In fact, most of our laws from the
beginning of time come from religious morals.

Wrong.

Thou Shalt Not kill.

Which is a law that comes from a lot further back
than you even know, Bipolar Bob.

which is what
I *actually* said. Denying rights to homosexuals
based on religion *is* harm.

But I'm not at all surprised that you had to go
with your usual strategy of creative omission.

"yawn"

Admitted by you, then.

 But then, I'm not a member of a
minority being oppressed and denied rights by a
hyper-religious sect that can't mind their own
business. I also don't have to deal with cowards
like you
Aww, Paranoid Adam thinks I am a coward. Oh my, now what?
"Knows". Not "thinks".

Oh..
o.k.

snicker

And?

coward, Bipolar Bob.

Physically, intellectually, and morally. You're
the trifecta of wretched pusillanimity.



 that think such groups should be allowed
to continue to oppress minorities.
And now Paranoid Adam just resorts to lying and leaving.
So denying rights to a minority isn't oppression now?

And again Paranoid Adam is trying to change the subject and continue
on lying about my position.

Well hey, you're the one continually offering
defence for bigotry.

On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:09 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true. But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them. And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...
you.
So

You have a problem.

not only can't you answer the question but your
bigotry

As soon as you address your bigotry, Paranoid IAAH.

In regards to your rhetorical question, I never said SSM harmed me.

When are you going to address your bigotry towards religions,
republicans, and anyone else that doesn't agree with you?

On Nov 6, 4:11 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:46 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:09 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true. But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them. And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...
you.
So
You have a problem.
not only can't you answer the question but your
bigotry
As soon as you address your bigotry, Paranoid IAAH.
I asked you to demonstrate that and you utterly
failed, Bigoted Bipolar Bob.

Paranoid IAAH, I'm not going to ask your silly questions that are
based at you making up more assumptions.
I've explained my position very well and I'm very comfortable with my
opinoin. If you wish to remain paranoid and play silly games, you go
play with yourself.

In regards to your rhetorical question, I never said SSM harmed me.
I asked what harm it would do, Bipolar Bob.

That would be up to the individual to answer, Paranoid IAAH.
What harm does it do to you if someone believes that the sexual acts
committed by homosexuals are a sin?

When are you going to address your bigotry towards religions,
republicans, and anyone else that doesn't agree with you?
When you can show that it exists,

You show it everyday Paranoid IAAH.
You just choose to ignore it.

On Nov 6, 4:36 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:24 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 4:11 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:46 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:09 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true. But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them. And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...
you.
So
You have a problem.
not only can't you answer the question but your
bigotry
As soon as you address your bigotry, Paranoid IAAH.
I asked you to demonstrate that and you utterly
failed, Bigoted Bipolar Bob.
Paranoid IAAH, I'm not going to ask your silly questions that are
based at you making up more assumptions.
I've explained my position very well and I'm very comfortable with my
opinoin. If you wish to remain paranoid and play silly games, you go
play with yourself.
Accusations without support are your usual game,
Bipolar Bob.

No Paranoid Adam, those are your games.
You just can't deal with the truth.

In regards to your rhetorical question, I never said SSM harmed me.
I asked what harm it would do, Bipolar Bob.
That would be up to the individual to answer, Paranoid IAAH.
What harm does it do to you if someone believes that the sexual acts
committed by homosexuals are a sin?
None at all.

Then why do you tell people to leave their religious viewpoints out of
it?
Why do you think you have the right to tell other people what matters
and what doesn't?

But then, I'm not a member of a
minority being oppressed and denied rights by a
hyper-religious sect that can't mind their own
business. I also don't have to deal with cowards
like you

Aww, Paranoid Adam thinks I am a coward. Oh my, now what?

that think such groups should be allowed
to continue to oppress minorities.

And now Paranoid Adam just resorts to lying and leaving.

On 11/6/09 8:06 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 7:00 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 5:39 PM, * Osprey wrote:

On Nov 6, 4:50 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:43 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 4:36 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:24 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 4:11 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:46 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:09 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true.  But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them.  And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...
you.
So
You have a problem.
not only can't you answer the question but your
bigotry
As soon as you address your bigotry, Paranoid IAAH.
I asked you to demonstrate that and you utterly
failed, Bigoted Bipolar Bob.
Paranoid IAAH, I'm not going to ask your silly questions that are
based at you making up more assumptions.
I've explained my position very well and I'm very comfortable with my
opinoin.  If you wish to remain paranoid and play silly games, you go
play with yourself.
Accusations without support are your usual game,
Bipolar Bob.
No Paranoid Adam, those are your games.
You just can't deal with the truth.
If there was any truth in what you said
And there is.
Then SHOW IT.

You just deny it.  You are a very unreasonable person.

The usual excuse of someone who presents no evidence.

In regards to your rhetorical question, I never said SSM harmed me.
I asked what harm it would do, Bipolar Bob.
That would be up to the individual to answer, Paranoid IAAH.
What harm does it do to you if someone believes that the sexual acts
committed by homosexuals are a sin?
None at all.
Then why do you tell people to leave their religious viewpoints out of
it?
Why do you think you have the right to tell other people what matters
and what doesn't?
Religion has NO PLACE in lawmaking,
Religion has a LOT in lawmaking. In fact, most of our laws from the
beginning of time come from religious morals.
Wrong.

Nope, I am dead right on this.

So you're claiming that religion existed before
social groups, are you?

Thou Shalt Not kill.
Which is a law that comes from a lot further back
than you even know, Bipolar Bob.

Prove it, Paranoid Adam.

Social groups existed well before religion,
Bipolar Bob.

which is what
I *actually* said. Denying rights to homosexuals
based on religion *is* harm.
But I'm not at all surprised that you had to go
with your usual strategy of creative omission.
"yawn"
Admitted by you, then.

No, but it's a lie by you though.

Bipolar Bob

thinks that denying fundamental rights
to minorities isn't a harm in any wise,

 But then, I'm not a member of a
minority being oppressed and denied rights by a
hyper-religious sect that can't mind their own
business. I also don't have to deal with cowards
like you
Aww, Paranoid Adam thinks I am a coward. Oh my, now what?
"Knows". Not "thinks".
Oh..
o.k.
snicker
And?

And what? I think your silliness is funny.

 You're still undoubtedly and indisputably a
coward, Bipolar Bob.

"yawn"

Is this truly the best you can do Paranoid Adam?

You've been reduced to trying (badly) what worked
so well on you, back on me.

It's as well as I need to do, Bipolar Bob. This is
what you always do when you're overmastered. You
might as well be wearing a blinking neon sign that
says "I just got my ass kicked."







Physically, intellectually, and morally. You're
the trifecta of wretched pusillanimity.

 that think such groups should be allowed
to continue to oppress minorities.
And now Paranoid Adam just resorts to lying and leaving.
So denying rights to a minority isn't oppression now?
And again Paranoid Adam is trying to change the subject and continue
on lying about my position.
Well hey, you're the one continually offering
defence for bigotry.

Wrong again, you do not see me defending bigotry.
I don't defend yours, why would I defend anyone elses?

You were excusing oppression of a minority on
religious grounds, Bipolar Bob.

Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 12:16 pm, "thomas p." <gudl... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:18 am, rfisc... at (no spam) sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:38 pm, "pandora" <pand... at (no spam) peak.org> wrote:
"Osprey" <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:bcaaa4ba-5836-4560-9119-df33c55bca1e at (no spam) p28g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 1:43 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:

One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:

Hopefully, this will be the end of this farce. How many times
do the people have to say "No"?

Until they can finally grasp the point that it is indecent to
believe you should be able to deny basic rights to others
without a reasonable foundation.

What is your reasonable foundation in trying to force others to
accept something they clearly don't want to accept?

*** Just don't attend any gay marriages. I'm sure they'll
appreciate it. And no one is forcing anything on you. Just ignore
it. It won't hurt you at all.

I never said hit hurt me at all. I don't care what you do. Like
I've always said before, if you want to hump a tree I've got a
whole entire woods behind me. Hump away. You will leave the trees
in my backyard alone.

Asshole doesn't care about justice or liberty. He just wants to
force people to live as he says (but not as he does, of course).

And of course Fischer goes to lying again.

Oh good, you are not against allowing same-sex marriage then.

What our legislators do with our laws, I will respect.
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.

And your supposed god's word also says that it's not acceptable for you to
eat pork.

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:06:36 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 6, 7:00?pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 5:39 PM, * Osprey wrote:

[...]

And again Paranoid Adam is trying to change the subject and continue on
lying about my position.

Well hey, you're the one continually offering defence for bigotry.

Wrong again, you do not see me defending bigotry.

You don't read minds, Faux Cop.  ...

On Nov 6, 4:50 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:43 PM, * Osprey wrote:





On Nov 6, 4:36 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:24 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 4:11 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:46 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:23 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 1:09 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 1:02 pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:42 PM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:31 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 10:25 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:04 am, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/6/09 12:44 AM, * Osprey wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:21 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
As I've said before, I believe in God's word. And according to what my
understanding is, it's not an acceptable behavior in God's eyes.
But you have to admit, not all US citizens believe this.
That's true. But the question that was asked of someone in this
thread was how does supporting SSM harm them. And that is what I am
addressing. For people who believe that homosexuality is a sin in
God's eyes, to turn around and then support gay marriage would be a
conflict in their beliefs.
That then is a problem with them
No it's not. It's no more of a problem with them than you having your
own opinions.
If they are comfortable with their opinion, there is no problem.
It becomes a problem, when YOU have a problem with it.
And even then, it's not a problem with them..it's a problem with you.
Yes, it IS a problem ....
Only with you.
In truth, the problem lies with ...
you.
So
You have a problem.
not only can't you answer the question but your
bigotry
As soon as you address your bigotry, Paranoid IAAH.
I asked you to demonstrate that and you utterly
failed, Bigoted Bipolar Bob.
Paranoid IAAH, I'm not going to ask your silly questions that are
based at you making up more assumptions.
I've explained my position very well and I'm very comfortable with my
opinoin. If you wish to remain paranoid and play silly games, you go
play with yourself.
Accusations without support are your usual game,
Bipolar Bob.
No Paranoid Adam, those are your games.
You just can't deal with the truth.
If there was any truth in what you said

And there is.

In regards to your rhetorical question, I never said SSM harmed me.
I asked what harm it would do, Bipolar Bob.
That would be up to the individual to answer, Paranoid IAAH.
What harm does it do to you if someone believes that the sexual acts
committed by homosexuals are a sin?
None at all.
Then why do you tell people to leave their religious viewpoints out of
it?
Why do you think you have the right to tell other people what matters
and what doesn't?
Religion has NO PLACE in lawmaking,

Religion has a LOT in lawmaking. In fact, most of our laws from the
beginning of time come from religious morals.

Thou Shalt Not kill.

which is what
I *actually* said. Denying rights to homosexuals
based on religion *is* harm.

But I'm not at all surprised that you had to go
with your usual strategy of creative omission.

"yawn"

But then, I'm not a member of a
minority being oppressed and denied rights by a
hyper-religious sect that can't mind their own
business. I also don't have to deal with cowards
like you
Aww, Paranoid Adam thinks I am a coward. Oh my, now what?
"Knows". Not "thinks".

Oh..
o.k.

snicker

that think such groups should be allowed
to continue to oppress minorities.
And now Paranoid Adam just resorts to lying and leaving.
So denying rights to a minority isn't oppression now?

And again Paranoid Adam is trying to change the subject and continue
on lying about my position.

On Nov 6, 8:22?am, Puck Greenman <dubh_gh... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:45:21 -0800 (PST), Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 5, 10:01?pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

On Nov 5, 12:08?pm, IAAH <n... at (no spam) email.exist> wrote:
On 11/5/09 10:58 AM, * Osprey wrote:

On Nov 4, 7:51 pm, "Dr. Smartass, Troll Veterinarian"
gek... at (no spam) astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
Osprey <Ospre... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote
innews:bcaaa4ba-5836-4560-9119-df3
3c55bc... at (no spam) p28g2000vbi.googlegroups.com:

On Nov 4, 1:43 pm, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Hopefully, this will be the end of this farce. How many times
do the people have to say "No"?
Until they can finally grasp the point that it is indecent to
believ
e
you should be able to deny basic rights to others without a
reasonable foundation.
What is your reasonable foundation in trying to force others to
accep
t
something they clearly don't want to accept?
Oh, like the end of slavery, blacks getting the vote, women
getting th
e
vote, and similar stuff pricks like you got all wrought-up over in
opposition?

You don't have a choice, son. It doesn't matter for shit what you
"accept" or not.

It doesn't matter for shit what you accept or not either, pop.

You will not repress others without a fight--and like with those
other examples, you and your pals have long since LOST this one.

You will not repress others without a fight who hold different
opinions.
You and your pals will lose that too.

How are YOU being repressed by SSM, Bipolar Bob?

I'm not and I never said I was, Paranoid Adam.

Then what's the problem?

I don't have a problem, I'm very comfortable with my opinion.

...And another evasion.-

What evasion? I answered the question and stated I'm very comfortable
with my opinion.

Are you that nervous?