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William Black...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:57 pm
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Harry Merrick wrote:
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William Black wrote:
White Spirit wrote:
William Black wrote:

The fact remains that a higher percentage of our armed forces are of
foreign extraction than the proportion present in the general
population.

That's not the issue, and you know it.

It was at the begining of the thread where the OP (not you) alleged
that immigrants were not pulling their weight in the armed forces.

The figures say they are, and more...

If you mean by that, "the Gurkha's", then of course you are right. No
better fighters anywhere, and far better than the standard British
trooper. However, those others?? - Possibly of Islamic persuasion? -
After the calamity today in Texas, I rather think I would be careful!

I think you're jumping to conclusions here.

I'm waiting until we get some answers.

My initial reaction is that anyone who works with traumatised soldiers
returning from a war zone is quite likely to become more than a little
distressed at the possibility of going out there.

There are also stories coming out about how he was under observation by
his employers for posting stuff on the net that was supportive of
suicide bombers, in which case whoever allowed him access to firearms
needs a serious talking to as well...

--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
 
White Spirit...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:34 pm
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William Black wrote:

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And you have to believe that anyone who stands up and fights for a
cause, no matter how wrong, has some.

Yeah. Hitler had great moral fibre, as do suicide bombers or the
people who exhort others to do such dirty work that they seem
strangely reluctant to do themselves. In the interests of being
consistent, I trust that you believe that David Copeland had moral
fibre too.

What cause was he fighting for?

My understanding is that he was a murderer who killed people because
he didn't like them.

Just like the other terrorists you consider to be brave men possessing
of moral fibre.

Copeland believed that he was fighting for a cause.

Well no.

He turns out, on a small trip around the web, to have been a paranoid
schizophrenic who couldn't even stay a member of the BNP...

His mental health is not in question. He believed that he was fighting
for a cause, regardless of where those beliefs came from.

That pretty much proves my point.
 
Lou Ravi...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:44 pm
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Mel Rowing wrote:

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He was also a psychiatrist apparently.

They often say they end up as mad as their clients.

End up? I've only ever met one psych-whatever who wasn't as daft as a
brush and I reckon that is why they go into pysch-whatever in the first
place.
 
Lou Ravi...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:45 pm
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White Spirit wrote:
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Lou Ravi wrote:

Of course it is my country. Want a photocopy of my passport?

Okay. I could do with a good laugh.

Actually you'd probably get it. But hands up anyone who has a passport
photo they like or that even resembles the person they see in the mirror
when they shave.
 
William Black...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:55 pm
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White Spirit wrote:
Quote:
William Black wrote:

And you have to believe that anyone who stands up and fights for a
cause, no matter how wrong, has some.

Yeah. Hitler had great moral fibre, as do suicide bombers or the
people who exhort others to do such dirty work that they seem
strangely reluctant to do themselves. In the interests of being
consistent, I trust that you believe that David Copeland had moral
fibre too.

What cause was he fighting for?

My understanding is that he was a murderer who killed people because
he didn't like them.

Just like the other terrorists you consider to be brave men
possessing of moral fibre.

Copeland believed that he was fighting for a cause.

Well no.

He turns out, on a small trip around the web, to have been a
paranoid schizophrenic who couldn't even stay a member of the BNP...

His mental health is not in question. He believed that he was fighting
for a cause, regardless of where those beliefs came from.

That pretty much proves my point.

Well no, he was mad.

Not 'fighting mad' but 'as mad as a badger'.


--
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
 
Harry Merrick...
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:54 am
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Lou Ravi wrote:
Quote:
Mel Rowing wrote:

He was also a psychiatrist apparently.

They often say they end up as mad as their clients.

End up? I've only ever met one psych-whatever who wasn't as daft as a
brush and I reckon that is why they go into pysch-whatever in the
first place.

"Oh Doctor Doctor, Heal Thyself First" eh? LOL!

--
Harry Merrick.
 
White Spirit...
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:13 am
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William Black wrote:

Quote:
White Spirit wrote:

William Black wrote:

And you have to believe that anyone who stands up and fights for
a cause, no matter how wrong, has some.

Yeah. Hitler had great moral fibre, as do suicide bombers or the
people who exhort others to do such dirty work that they seem
strangely reluctant to do themselves. In the interests of being
consistent, I trust that you believe that David Copeland had moral
fibre too.

What cause was he fighting for?

My understanding is that he was a murderer who killed people
because he didn't like them.

Just like the other terrorists you consider to be brave men
possessing of moral fibre.

Copeland believed that he was fighting for a cause.

Well no.

He turns out, on a small trip around the web, to have been a
paranoid schizophrenic who couldn't even stay a member of the BNP...

His mental health is not in question. He believed that he was
fighting for a cause, regardless of where those beliefs came from.

That pretty much proves my point.

Well no, he was mad.

Not 'fighting mad' but 'as mad as a badger'.

It's irrelevant. People who are mad still have firm beliefs.
 
 
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