On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:13:33 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
rdsandman(spamlock) at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

What did I say that was unsubstantiated, bub? Please be specific.

That faux is a "news" channel

It isn't......

It's an entertainment channel

On Nov 1, 11:40 am, "RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)
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On Oct 31, 2:30 pm, clouddreamer <savethepla... at (no spam) savemoney.too
wrote:
Knifefight Afterdance wrote:
Now I know why the Obama White House has been bad mouthing Fox
news. Obama is very liberal and Fox news is fair and balanced
down the middle. Obama likes MSNBC the best. The American people
don't.

Americans like Fox news. The numbers prove it. Obama has to back
down.

So Fox beat all the other news shows on an individual basis. Did
it
beat
them ALL?

Fox is shamelessly leaning so far to the Right it's a wonder it
hasn't fallen off the edge.

The majority of other news broadcasts are properly labeled fair
and balanced. Put ALL their numbers together and see how Fox, the
sole bastion of Right wingness, stands up to them.

  ..

If you want to know what is going on in this county; watching FNC
and listenening to talk radio is a must.

That will give you one side unless you confine it to the news itself
and not the commentators.  Otherwise you also need a bit of CNN.

--
CNN never heard of Van Jones until Obama fired him.

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If you want to know what is going on in this county; watching FNC
and listenening to talk radio is a must.

That will give you one side unless you confine it to the news
itself an
d
not the commentators.  Otherwise you also need a bit of CNN.

--

The problem is that Fox itself does not either know or care to admit
that there IS a difference.

You would be well advised to include more sources than CNN also.

The problem with FNC is that they have too many people watching them.
That's what is causing all the political problem for the
administration.

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If you want to know what is going on in this county; watching
FNC a
nd
listenening to talk radio is a must.

That will give you one side unless you confine it to the news
itself
and
not the commentators.  Otherwise you also need a bit of CNN.

--

The problem is that Fox itself does not either know or care to
admit th
at
there IS a difference.

You would be well advised to include more sources than CNN also.

The problem with FNC is that they have too many people watching them.
That's what is causing all the political problem for the
administration.


America is full of illiterate angry White trash, that's your typical
Fox News fan.

On Nov 2, 7:00 am, Bama Brian <claypoolbr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Siobhan Medeiros wrote:
On Nov 1, 7:43 am, Bama Brian <claypoolbr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
clouddreamer wrote:
ZNUYBV wrote:
On Oct 31, 2:30 pm, clouddreamer <savethepla... at (no spam) savemoney.too
wrote
:
Knifefight Afterdance wrote:
Now I know why the Obama White House has been bad mouthing Fox
new
s.
Obama is very liberal and Fox news is fair and balanced down
the middle. Obama likes MSNBC the best. The American people
don't. Americans like Fox news. The numbers prove it. Obama
has to back d
own.
So Fox beat all the other news shows on an individual basis.
Did it
beat
them ALL?
Fox is shamelessly leaning so far to the Right it's a wonder it
has
n't
fallen off the edge.
The majority of other news broadcasts are properly labeled fair
and balanced. Put ALL their numbers together and see how Fox,
the sole bastion of Right wingness, stands up to them.
  ..
If you want to know what is going on in this county; watching
FNC an
d
listenening to talk radio is a must.
No thanks. I've watched just a few minutes of FNC and found it so
blatantly biased, it was sickening. It makes CNN seem downright
left
wing.
I think the guy they interviewed proclaiming that the H1N1
vaccine wa
s a
plot to reduce the world's population was the straw that broke
the camel's back. Do you honestly believe that bullshit?
Probably. Sheep tend to be pretty stupid.
 ..
Still, the vaccine does contain: thimerosal, a mercury compound
used a
s
a preservative; trace amounts of formaldehyde, another
preservative; a
nd
squalene, an adjuvant intended to increase the vaccine's potency.

None of which I want in my veins.  Call me a sheep if you like,
but
I
think the vaccine's risk is roughly equal to the flu's risk.

--
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana

Yeah, sure.  Another libertarian displays his vast knowledge of
science.

None of those things you mentioned are in any concentration more
than a tiny percentage of what's needed to cause any harm.  H1N1,
however, has a pretty good chance of killing you.

Ask all the Viet Nam vets who were never told that Agent Orange, or
dioxin, used to defoliate the Vietnamese forests could kill them in
trace amounts.  Oh, it wouldn't happen right away.

The fedgov finally agreed that if a soldier had been in Viet Nam for
only ONE day, that they would take care of all those little problems
that began cropping up two decades later.  Little problems such as
soft cell carcinoma, diabetes type 2, cardiac problems, and possibly
even erectile dysfunction.  There's a panoply of illnesses associated
with Agent Orange, for which the Veteran's Administration will treat
the vet, and even pay them a monthly disability stipend, decades
after they left the service.

News flash, idiot. The vaccine isn't Agent Orange. To compare
constant exposure with ONE injection is sheer stupidity.


And you want me to believe that "trace amounts" of thimerosal,
formaldehyde, and squalene are good for us?  Is that because the
fedgov told you not to worry?


No, I want you to believe that swine flu is much much worse for you.

On Nov 3, 8:41 am, Bama Brian <claypoolbr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Tater Gumfries wrote:
On Nov 1, 8:43 am, Bama Brian <claypoolbr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
clouddreamer wrote:
ZNUYBV wrote:
On Oct 31, 2:30 pm, clouddreamer <savethepla... at (no spam) savemoney.too
wrote
:
Knifefight Afterdance wrote:
Now I know why the Obama White House has been bad mouthing Fox
new
s.
Obama is very liberal and Fox news is fair and balanced down
the middle. Obama likes MSNBC the best. The American people
don't. Americans like Fox news. The numbers prove it. Obama
has to back d
own.
So Fox beat all the other news shows on an individual basis.
Did it
beat
them ALL?
Fox is shamelessly leaning so far to the Right it's a wonder it
has
n't
fallen off the edge.
The majority of other news broadcasts are properly labeled fair
and balanced. Put ALL their numbers together and see how Fox,
the sole bastion of Right wingness, stands up to them.
  ..
If you want to know what is going on in this county; watching
FNC an
d
listenening to talk radio is a must.
No thanks. I've watched just a few minutes of FNC and found it so
blatantly biased, it was sickening. It makes CNN seem downright
left
wing.
I think the guy they interviewed proclaiming that the H1N1
vaccine wa
s a
plot to reduce the world's population was the straw that broke
the camel's back. Do you honestly believe that bullshit?
Probably. Sheep tend to be pretty stupid.
 ..
Still, the vaccine does contain: thimerosal, a mercury compound
used a
s
a preservative; trace amounts of formaldehyde, another
preservative; a
nd
squalene, an adjuvant intended to increase the vaccine's potency.

Ain't no squalene in the vaccine. And you need preservatives to
keep things from goin bad. Just cause a chemical has mercury
molecules don't mean they's liquid mercury in it. Usin that kind of
thinkin, that salt you sprinkle on your food is half poison gas
used by the Germans in WWI.

As to whether squalene has been removed from the vaccine is
questionable.  AFAIK, you don't get to read the vaccine's label prior
t
o
receiving the shot.

If someone told me that Zyklon B was being used as a preservative, I
would still pass on that product.  Salt may have been in it; but it
matters not.  What matters is that salt is not poisonous, while
mercury certainly is.

There ain't no mercury in it. It has thimerosal, which is a mercury
compound. Thimerosal no more causes mercury poisoning than does salt
cause chlorine poisoning.

Tater

Siobhan Medeiros wrote:
On Nov 2, 7:00 am, Bama Brian <claypoolbr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Siobhan Medeiros wrote:
On Nov 1, 7:43 am, Bama Brian <claypoolbr... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
clouddreamer wrote:
ZNUYBV wrote:
On Oct 31, 2:30 pm, clouddreamer <savethepla... at (no spam) savemoney.too
wrote:
Knifefight Afterdance wrote:
Now I know why the Obama White House has been bad mouthing Fox
news. Obama is very liberal and Fox news is fair and balanced
down the middle. Obama likes MSNBC the best. The American people
don't. Americans like Fox news. The numbers prove it. Obama has
to back down.
So Fox beat all the other news shows on an individual basis. Did
it beat them ALL?
Fox is shamelessly leaning so far to the Right it's a wonder it
hasn't fallen off the edge.
The majority of other news broadcasts are properly labeled fair
and balanced. Put ALL their numbers together and see how Fox, the
sole bastion of Right wingness, stands up to them.
..
If you want to know what is going on in this county; watching FNC
and listenening to talk radio is a must.
No thanks. I've watched just a few minutes of FNC and found it so
blatantly biased, it was sickening. It makes CNN seem downright left
wing. I think the guy they interviewed proclaiming that the H1N1
vaccine was a plot to reduce the world's population was the straw
that broke the camel's back. Do you honestly believe that bullshit?
Probably. Sheep tend to be pretty stupid.
..
Still, the vaccine does contain: thimerosal, a mercury compound used
as a preservative; trace amounts of formaldehyde, another
preservative; and squalene, an adjuvant intended to increase the
vaccine's potency. None of which I want in my veins. Call me a sheep
if you like, but I think the vaccine's risk is roughly equal to the
flu's risk. --
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana
Yeah, sure. Another libertarian displays his vast knowledge of
science. None of those things you mentioned are in any concentration
more than a tiny percentage of what's needed to cause any harm. H1N1,
however, has a pretty good chance of killing you.
Ask all the Viet Nam vets who were never told that Agent Orange, or
dioxin, used to defoliate the Vietnamese forests could kill them in
trace amounts. Oh, it wouldn't happen right away.

The fedgov finally agreed that if a soldier had been in Viet Nam for
only ONE day, that they would take care of all those little problems
that began cropping up two decades later. Little problems such as soft
cell carcinoma, diabetes type 2, cardiac problems, and possibly even
erectile dysfunction. There's a panoply of illnesses associated with
Agent Orange, for which the Veteran's Administration will treat the
vet, and even pay them a monthly disability stipend, decades after they
left the service.

News flash, idiot. The vaccine isn't Agent Orange. To compare
constant exposure with ONE injection is sheer stupidity.

Try reading my post, above. Just ONE day's exposure to Agent Orange and
the GI won the VA lottery.


And you want me to believe that "trace amounts" of thimerosal,
formaldehyde, and squalene are good for us? Is that because the fedgov
told you not to worry?


No, I want you to believe that swine flu is much much worse for you.

You know my personal genetic structure, body chemistry, and
illness/medication history that well, do you?

The fedgov and the mass media say that swine flu is a Bad Thing. Yet
I've seen no REAL evidence to support this. The annual influenza
epidemics always kill some people, with up to 36,000 being quoted by the
fedgov for H1N1 this year. But this number is not likely. We're well
into the flu season, with seriously late deliveries of the vaccine, and
only a thousand deaths have been attributed to the H1N1 flu. Note that
this is a VERY low risk in a population of 300 million.

I think that vaccination can be an effective public health tool. But I
think that no one's needs are served by whipping up mass hysteria as to
the dreaded oncoming Killer B..., er, Global Wa..., er, Population
Bom..., er, swine flu.

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On Nov 1, 12:23 pm, "Dano" <janeandd... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock) at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote in
message

If you want to know what is going on in this county; watching
FNC and listenening to talk radio is a must.

That will give you one side unless you confine it to the news
itself and not the commentators.  Otherwise you also need a bit of
CNN.

--

The problem is that Fox itself does not either know or care to admit
that there IS a difference.

You would be well advised to include more sources than CNN also.

The problem with FNC is that they have too many people watching them.
That's what is causing all the political problem for the
administration.

  America is full of illiterate angry White trash, that's your typical
Fox News fan.

Demonizing people makes for a really lousy argument.

However, pretend for a moment that what you say is true, that "America
is full of illiterate angry White trash". According to an earlier
post in this thread, Fox has something like 3-4 million viewers. Out
of more than 300 million people in the country, this doesn't seem like
a big crowd, much less filling up the place with "illiterate angry
White trash".

If "America is full of illiterate angry White trash", how did Mr.
Obama ever get elected?

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:13:33 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
rdsandman(spamlock) at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

What did I say that was unsubstantiated, bub? Please be specific.

That faux is a "news" channel

It isn't......

It's an entertainment channel

Obviously you have been watching the wrong one. The one that competes
with network TV shows is the Fox Entertainment channel. It isn't on
cable.

I find it amazing that so many people who have rarely, if ever, watched
FOX News have such inbred opinions about it.

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On Nov 1, 12:23 pm, "Dano" <janeandd... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock) at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote in
message

If you want to know what is going on in this county; watching
FNC
and
listenening to talk radio is a must.

That will give you one side unless you confine it to the news
itsel
f and
not the commentators.  Otherwise you also need a bit of CNN.

--

The problem is that Fox itself does not either know or care to
admit
that
there IS a difference.

You would be well advised to include more sources than CNN also.

The problem with FNC is that they have too many people watching
them. That's what is causing all the political problem for the
administration.

  America is full of illiterate angry White trash, that's your
typical Fox News fan.

Demonizing people makes for a really lousy argument.

However, pretend for a moment that what you say is true, that "America
is full of illiterate angry White trash". According to an earlier
post in this thread, Fox has something like 3-4 million viewers. Out
of more than 300 million people in the country, this doesn't seem like
a big crowd, much less filling up the place with "illiterate angry
White trash".

If "America is full of illiterate angry White trash", how did Mr.
Obama ever get elected?

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What did I say that was unsubstantiated, bub? Please be specific.

That faux is a "news" channel

It isn't......

It's an entertainment channel

Obviously you have been watching the wrong one. The one that
competes with network TV shows is the Fox Entertainment channel. It
isn't on cable.

I find it amazing that so many people who have rarely, if ever,
watched FOX News have such inbred opinions about it.



Same as with Rush. None of these turds listen to Rush but they always
know exactly what they are told he said.

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:13:33 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
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What did I say that was unsubstantiated, bub? Please be specific.
That faux is a "news" channel

It isn't......

It's an entertainment channel
Obviously you have been watching the wrong one. The one that
competes with network TV shows is the Fox Entertainment channel. It
isn't on cable.

I find it amazing that so many people who have rarely, if ever,
watched FOX News have such inbred opinions about it.


Same as with Rush. None of these turds listen to Rush but they always
know exactly what they are told he said.


Well, I don't watch Rush, but then you don't see me badmouthing him or
his statements either......since I don't watch, I simply don't know about
him other than what I hear and that is not enough for me to take to the
bank.


What I mean is how noone admiots listening to him but they all seem to be
able to quote some terrible racist, sexist thing he said. Always turns out he
either didn't say it or what is being quoted is so out of context as to have
lost all meaning.

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What did I say that was unsubstantiated, bub? Please be specific.

That faux is a "news" channel

It isn't......

It's an entertainment channel

Obviously you have been watching the wrong one. The one that
competes with network TV shows is the Fox Entertainment channel. It
isn't on cable.

I find it amazing that so many people who have rarely, if ever,
watched FOX News have such inbred opinions about it.



Same as with Rush. None of these turds listen to Rush but they always
know exactly what they are told he said.



Well, I don't watch Rush, but then you don't see me badmouthing him or
his statements either......since I don't watch, I simply don't know about
him other than what I hear and that is not enough for me to take to the
bank.

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:13:33 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
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What did I say that was unsubstantiated, bub? Please be specific.
That faux is a "news" channel

It isn't......

It's an entertainment channel
Obviously you have been watching the wrong one. The one that
competes with network TV shows is the Fox Entertainment channel. It
isn't on cable.

I find it amazing that so many people who have rarely, if ever,
watched FOX News have such inbred opinions about it.


Same as with Rush. None of these turds listen to Rush but they always
know exactly what they are told he said.


Well, I don't watch Rush, but then you don't see me badmouthing him or
his statements either......since I don't watch, I simply don't know
about him other than what I hear and that is not enough for me to take
to the bank.


What I mean is how noone admiots listening to him but they all seem to
be able to quote some terrible racist, sexist thing he said. Always
turns out he either didn't say it or what is being quoted is so out of
context as to have lost all meaning.


We don't have to listen to get quotes attributed to him. I just have to
go to Youtube and hear/see his filth. Plenty there. Go do a search.

As for taking things out of context, Rush does a great job of that when
it comes to putting words in Al Gore's mouth that were never uttered. My
favorite is his ten year countdown because Rush said Gore said we had
only ten years left. He never said such a thing. Any reference to that
time frame has to do with the levels of CO2 rising to a level that would
be near impossible to deal with - and that can happen within a decade.

No, Rush, the world isn't going to explode.

plonk

..

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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:13:33 -0600, "RD (The Sandman)"
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What did I say that was unsubstantiated, bub? Please be specific.

That faux is a "news" channel

It isn't......

It's an entertainment channel

Obviously you have been watching the wrong one. The one that
competes with network TV shows is the Fox Entertainment channel.
It isn't on cable.

I find it amazing that so many people who have rarely, if ever,
watched FOX News have such inbred opinions about it.



Same as with Rush. None of these turds listen to Rush but they
always know exactly what they are told he said.



Well, I don't watch Rush, but then you don't see me badmouthing him
or his statements either......since I don't watch, I simply don't
know about him other than what I hear and that is not enough for me
to take to the bank.


What I mean is how noone admiots listening to him but they all seem to
be able to quote some terrible racist, sexist thing he said. Always
turns out he either didn't say it or what is being quoted is so out of
context as to have lost all meaning.

You are all to reasonable for a liberal. You are screwing with my
world view. 8)